(03-28-2025 12:59 PM)cubucks Wrote:  

(03-28-2025 07:36 AM)stechs02 Wrote:  

(03-26-2025 09:27 PM)Transic_nyc Wrote:  I'll just put this over here:

I’ll play along. I’m curious what everyone thinks about the podcaster’s +1 comment, which seems to be referencing a conference farther West than FSU. My guess is the Big 12. But is he talking about Kansas? Honestly, I don’t see a scenario where FSU and Kansas end up in the B1G together. I could see FSU pairing with Stanford, Miami, or even Duke or Georgia Tech, but the idea of FSU and Kansas seems unlikely.

If FSU is joining the B1G without AAU status, that +1 has to have elite academic credentials, in my opinion. That pretty much rules out the Big 12, which makes me think these FSU rumors might be overblown. Maybe I’m wrong, and FOX has more influence over university presidents than I thought, but if FSU is joining because of FOX, the presidents will likely want something in return. Perhaps money does talk after all? Time will tell. I personally do like the pairing of an FSU / Kansas, just don't think it is likely.

Yeah, I could definitely see Kansas in the SEC, but I don't think they'll ever get into the BIG. I really like Kansas and I wish the BIG already had them.

With FSU, I would say Miami would be the +1? Maybe I'm wrong? Out west I would think 2 of Stanford, Colorado, or Arizona State. Finish it with Georgia Tech and Notre Dame. Hi TerryD, just play along for a minute, please.

I'm starting to change my mind. Kansas and the BIG should probably happen.

(08-25-2025 03:04 PM)cubucks Wrote:  

(03-28-2025 12:59 PM)cubucks Wrote:  

(03-28-2025 07:36 AM)stechs02 Wrote:  

(03-26-2025 09:27 PM)Transic_nyc Wrote:  I'll just put this over here:

I’ll play along. I’m curious what everyone thinks about the podcaster’s +1 comment, which seems to be referencing a conference farther West than FSU. My guess is the Big 12. But is he talking about Kansas? Honestly, I don’t see a scenario where FSU and Kansas end up in the B1G together. I could see FSU pairing with Stanford, Miami, or even Duke or Georgia Tech, but the idea of FSU and Kansas seems unlikely.

If FSU is joining the B1G without AAU status, that +1 has to have elite academic credentials, in my opinion. That pretty much rules out the Big 12, which makes me think these FSU rumors might be overblown. Maybe I’m wrong, and FOX has more influence over university presidents than I thought, but if FSU is joining because of FOX, the presidents will likely want something in return. Perhaps money does talk after all? Time will tell. I personally do like the pairing of an FSU / Kansas, just don't think it is likely.

Yeah, I could definitely see Kansas in the SEC, but I don't think they'll ever get into the BIG. I really like Kansas and I wish the BIG already had them.

With FSU, I would say Miami would be the +1? Maybe I'm wrong? Out west I would think 2 of Stanford, Colorado, or Arizona State. Finish it with Georgia Tech and Notre Dame. Hi TerryD, just play along for a minute, please.

I'm starting to change my mind. Kansas and the BIG should probably happen.

100%. I’ve really shifted my thinking on this. If the SEC ends up landing FSU, Clemson, and UNC, then the smartest and most strategic counter for the Big Ten would be adding Miami and Kansas. It’s the perfect chess move for a number of reasons.

That said, I’ve cautiously grown more bullish on the Big Ten’s chances with FSU or UNC, despite the contrarian takes on this board. The more I understand the landscape and apply sound business logic, the more confident I am that the Big Ten has a real shot.

(09-02-2025 07:32 AM)stechs02 Wrote:  

(08-25-2025 03:04 PM)cubucks Wrote:  

(03-28-2025 12:59 PM)cubucks Wrote:  

(03-28-2025 07:36 AM)stechs02 Wrote:  

(03-26-2025 09:27 PM)Transic_nyc Wrote:  I'll just put this over here:

I’ll play along. I’m curious what everyone thinks about the podcaster’s +1 comment, which seems to be referencing a conference farther West than FSU. My guess is the Big 12. But is he talking about Kansas? Honestly, I don’t see a scenario where FSU and Kansas end up in the B1G together. I could see FSU pairing with Stanford, Miami, or even Duke or Georgia Tech, but the idea of FSU and Kansas seems unlikely.

If FSU is joining the B1G without AAU status, that +1 has to have elite academic credentials, in my opinion. That pretty much rules out the Big 12, which makes me think these FSU rumors might be overblown. Maybe I’m wrong, and FOX has more influence over university presidents than I thought, but if FSU is joining because of FOX, the presidents will likely want something in return. Perhaps money does talk after all? Time will tell. I personally do like the pairing of an FSU / Kansas, just don't think it is likely.

Yeah, I could definitely see Kansas in the SEC, but I don't think they'll ever get into the BIG. I really like Kansas and I wish the BIG already had them.

With FSU, I would say Miami would be the +1? Maybe I'm wrong? Out west I would think 2 of Stanford, Colorado, or Arizona State. Finish it with Georgia Tech and Notre Dame. Hi TerryD, just play along for a minute, please.

I'm starting to change my mind. Kansas and the BIG should probably happen.

100%. I’ve really shifted my thinking on this. If the SEC ends up landing FSU, Clemson, and UNC, then the smartest and most strategic counter for the Big Ten would be adding Miami and Kansas. It’s the perfect chess move for a number of reasons.

That said, I’ve cautiously grown more bullish on the Big Ten’s chances with FSU or UNC, despite the contrarian takes on this board. The more I understand the landscape and apply sound business logic, the more confident I am that the Big Ten has a real shot.

Which is why I just don't think 20 is the number.

If the Big10 is adding NC, then Duke clearly comes along as a package. I can see the NCSU argument for the SEC, but for the Big10, I just think there is no way they'd not take the opportunity to add Duke.

After that, add Miami and Kansas for 22.

And even if NC goes to the SEC, the counter move is still 22.

alumni-rich Miami and Arizona state, and basketball powers Duke and Kansas.

Miami, Duke, and, Kansas, are also strategic moves to prevent the SEC from adding them.

I think Virginia may be part of the conversation, but unless part of an NC package, I don't see them as an immediate add, unless going for more than 20.

(09-02-2025 08:15 AM)Skyhawk Wrote:  

(09-02-2025 07:32 AM)stechs02 Wrote:  

(08-25-2025 03:04 PM)cubucks Wrote:  

(03-28-2025 12:59 PM)cubucks Wrote:  

(03-28-2025 07:36 AM)stechs02 Wrote:  I’ll play along. I’m curious what everyone thinks about the podcaster’s +1 comment, which seems to be referencing a conference farther West than FSU. My guess is the Big 12. But is he talking about Kansas? Honestly, I don’t see a scenario where FSU and Kansas end up in the B1G together. I could see FSU pairing with Stanford, Miami, or even Duke or Georgia Tech, but the idea of FSU and Kansas seems unlikely.

If FSU is joining the B1G without AAU status, that +1 has to have elite academic credentials, in my opinion. That pretty much rules out the Big 12, which makes me think these FSU rumors might be overblown. Maybe I’m wrong, and FOX has more influence over university presidents than I thought, but if FSU is joining because of FOX, the presidents will likely want something in return. Perhaps money does talk after all? Time will tell. I personally do like the pairing of an FSU / Kansas, just don't think it is likely.

Yeah, I could definitely see Kansas in the SEC, but I don't think they'll ever get into the BIG. I really like Kansas and I wish the BIG already had them.

With FSU, I would say Miami would be the +1? Maybe I'm wrong? Out west I would think 2 of Stanford, Colorado, or Arizona State. Finish it with Georgia Tech and Notre Dame. Hi TerryD, just play along for a minute, please.

I'm starting to change my mind. Kansas and the BIG should probably happen.

100%. I’ve really shifted my thinking on this. If the SEC ends up landing FSU, Clemson, and UNC, then the smartest and most strategic counter for the Big Ten would be adding Miami and Kansas. It’s the perfect chess move for a number of reasons.

That said, I’ve cautiously grown more bullish on the Big Ten’s chances with FSU or UNC, despite the contrarian takes on this board. The more I understand the landscape and apply sound business logic, the more confident I am that the Big Ten has a real shot.

Which is why I just don't think 20 is the number.

If the Big10 is adding NC, then Duke clearly comes along as a package. I can see the NCSU argument for the SEC, but for the Big10, I just think there is no way they'd not take the opportunity to add Duke.

After that, add Miami and Kansas for 22.

And even if NC goes to the SEC, the counter move is still 22.

alumni-rich Miami and Arizona state, and basketball powers Duke and Kansas.

Miami, Duke, and, Kansas, are also strategic moves to prevent the SEC from adding them.

I think Virginia may be part of the conversation, but unless part of an NC package, I don't see them as an immediate add, unless going for more than 20.

Also with 22, you can still play everyone at least once every 3 years while maintaining the up to 3 rivalries protected annually for flex protect with 9 conf. games.

(09-05-2025 06:37 AM)GoBuckeyes1047 Wrote:  

(09-02-2025 08:15 AM)Skyhawk Wrote:  

(09-02-2025 07:32 AM)stechs02 Wrote:  

(08-25-2025 03:04 PM)cubucks Wrote:  

(03-28-2025 12:59 PM)cubucks Wrote:  Yeah, I could definitely see Kansas in the SEC, but I don't think they'll ever get into the BIG. I really like Kansas and I wish the BIG already had them.

With FSU, I would say Miami would be the +1? Maybe I'm wrong? Out west I would think 2 of Stanford, Colorado, or Arizona State. Finish it with Georgia Tech and Notre Dame. Hi TerryD, just play along for a minute, please.

I'm starting to change my mind. Kansas and the BIG should probably happen.

100%. I’ve really shifted my thinking on this. If the SEC ends up landing FSU, Clemson, and UNC, then the smartest and most strategic counter for the Big Ten would be adding Miami and Kansas. It’s the perfect chess move for a number of reasons.

That said, I’ve cautiously grown more bullish on the Big Ten’s chances with FSU or UNC, despite the contrarian takes on this board. The more I understand the landscape and apply sound business logic, the more confident I am that the Big Ten has a real shot.

Which is why I just don't think 20 is the number.

If the Big10 is adding NC, then Duke clearly comes along as a package. I can see the NCSU argument for the SEC, but for the Big10, I just think there is no way they'd not take the opportunity to add Duke.

After that, add Miami and Kansas for 22.

And even if NC goes to the SEC, the counter move is still 22.

alumni-rich Miami and Arizona state, and basketball powers Duke and Kansas.

Miami, Duke, and, Kansas, are also strategic moves to prevent the SEC from adding them.

I think Virginia may be part of the conversation, but unless part of an NC package, I don't see them as an immediate add, unless going for more than 20.

Also with 22, you can still play everyone at least once every 3 years while maintaining the up to 3 rivalries protected annually for flex protect with 9 conf. games.

hmm, 22 is exactly that.

(I had to stop and try to count it out lol)

22 - self, -3 protected = 18
18/3 years = 6 schools per year

6 schools per year plus 3 protected = 9 conference games.

Interesting thought, I wonder if the fact that there are those with few than 3 rivals, might affect the choice of what 4 schools are added.

For example, adding Virginia for the east coast schools, Maryland in particular.

Kansas for the long running (1906–2010) matchup that was interrupted in 2010: Kansas-Nebraska. Which apparently is the longest running matchup for Kansas vs Big8 schools.

Interestingly, Nebraska and Miami had a long running one as well: 1951-2015

And there's Stanford with USC and Oregon.

Wouldn't it be interesting if those were the 4 added: Virginia, Kansas, Miami, and Stanford.

(09-05-2025 09:11 AM)Skyhawk Wrote:  

(09-05-2025 06:37 AM)GoBuckeyes1047 Wrote:  

(09-02-2025 08:15 AM)Skyhawk Wrote:  

(09-02-2025 07:32 AM)stechs02 Wrote:  

(08-25-2025 03:04 PM)cubucks Wrote:  I'm starting to change my mind. Kansas and the BIG should probably happen.

100%. I’ve really shifted my thinking on this. If the SEC ends up landing FSU, Clemson, and UNC, then the smartest and most strategic counter for the Big Ten would be adding Miami and Kansas. It’s the perfect chess move for a number of reasons.

That said, I’ve cautiously grown more bullish on the Big Ten’s chances with FSU or UNC, despite the contrarian takes on this board. The more I understand the landscape and apply sound business logic, the more confident I am that the Big Ten has a real shot.

Which is why I just don't think 20 is the number.

If the Big10 is adding NC, then Duke clearly comes along as a package. I can see the NCSU argument for the SEC, but for the Big10, I just think there is no way they'd not take the opportunity to add Duke.

After that, add Miami and Kansas for 22.

And even if NC goes to the SEC, the counter move is still 22.

alumni-rich Miami and Arizona state, and basketball powers Duke and Kansas.

Miami, Duke, and, Kansas, are also strategic moves to prevent the SEC from adding them.

I think Virginia may be part of the conversation, but unless part of an NC package, I don't see them as an immediate add, unless going for more than 20.

Also with 22, you can still play everyone at least once every 3 years while maintaining the up to 3 rivalries protected annually for flex protect with 9 conf. games.

hmm, 22 is exactly that.

(I had to stop and try to count it out lol)

22 - self, -3 protected = 18
18/3 years = 6 schools per year

6 schools per year plus 3 protected = 9 conference games.

Interesting thought, I wonder if the fact that there are those with few than 3 rivals, might affect the choice of what 4 schools are added.

For example, adding Virginia for the east coast schools, Maryland in particular.

Kansas for the long running (1906–2010) matchup that was interrupted in 2010: Kansas-Nebraska. Which apparently is the longest running matchup for Kansas vs Big8 schools.

Interestingly, Nebraska and Miami had a long running one as well: 1951-2015

And there's Stanford with USC and Oregon.

Wouldn't it be interesting if those were the 4 added: Virginia, Kansas, Miami, and Stanford.

hmmm, 28 does the same thing, but every 4 years:

28 - self, -3 protected = 24
24/4 years = 6 schools per year

6 schools per year plus 3 protected = 9 conference games.

So, we could add to Virginia, Kansas, Miami, and Stanford.

NC and Duke to give the east more rivals (and because they're apparently in demand)

GT and Duke also apparently had a long running rivalry.

Then Colorado for another Nebraska rivalry, and history with Stanford.

That leaves 2 schools. Though they were/are slowly building rivalries withUSC or Kansas, or UCLA in basketball, they are mostly rivals with each other, but of the AAU choices left, I think adding a new, alumni-rich state is worth it: Arizona and Arizona State.

For rivalry's sake, Cal could have been a choice, but the reported resounding no, mutiple times, suggests that that isn't happening.

(09-05-2025 09:31 AM)Skyhawk Wrote:  

(09-05-2025 09:11 AM)Skyhawk Wrote:  

(09-05-2025 06:37 AM)GoBuckeyes1047 Wrote:  

(09-02-2025 08:15 AM)Skyhawk Wrote:  

(09-02-2025 07:32 AM)stechs02 Wrote:  100%. I’ve really shifted my thinking on this. If the SEC ends up landing FSU, Clemson, and UNC, then the smartest and most strategic counter for the Big Ten would be adding Miami and Kansas. It’s the perfect chess move for a number of reasons.

That said, I’ve cautiously grown more bullish on the Big Ten’s chances with FSU or UNC, despite the contrarian takes on this board. The more I understand the landscape and apply sound business logic, the more confident I am that the Big Ten has a real shot.

Which is why I just don't think 20 is the number.

If the Big10 is adding NC, then Duke clearly comes along as a package. I can see the NCSU argument for the SEC, but for the Big10, I just think there is no way they'd not take the opportunity to add Duke.

After that, add Miami and Kansas for 22.

And even if NC goes to the SEC, the counter move is still 22.

alumni-rich Miami and Arizona state, and basketball powers Duke and Kansas.

Miami, Duke, and, Kansas, are also strategic moves to prevent the SEC from adding them.

I think Virginia may be part of the conversation, but unless part of an NC package, I don't see them as an immediate add, unless going for more than 20.

Also with 22, you can still play everyone at least once every 3 years while maintaining the up to 3 rivalries protected annually for flex protect with 9 conf. games.

hmm, 22 is exactly that.

(I had to stop and try to count it out lol)

22 - self, -3 protected = 18
18/3 years = 6 schools per year

6 schools per year plus 3 protected = 9 conference games.

Interesting thought, I wonder if the fact that there are those with few than 3 rivals, might affect the choice of what 4 schools are added.

For example, adding Virginia for the east coast schools, Maryland in particular.

Kansas for the long running (1906–2010) matchup that was interrupted in 2010: Kansas-Nebraska. Which apparently is the longest running matchup for Kansas vs Big8 schools.

Interestingly, Nebraska and Miami had a long running one as well: 1951-2015

And there's Stanford with USC and Oregon.

Wouldn't it be interesting if those were the 4 added: Virginia, Kansas, Miami, and Stanford.

hmmm, 28 does the same thing, but every 4 years:

28 - self, -3 protected = 24
24/4 years = 6 schools per year

6 schools per year plus 3 protected = 9 conference games.

So, we could add to Virginia, Kansas, Miami, and Stanford.

NC and Duke to give the east more rivals (and because they're apparently in demand)

GT and Duke also apparently had a long running rivalry.

Then Colorado for another Nebraska rivalry, and history with Stanford.

That leaves 2 schools. Though they were/are slowly building rivalries withUSC or Kansas, or UCLA in basketball, they are mostly rivals with each other, but of the AAU choices left, I think adding a new, alumni-rich state is worth it: Arizona and Arizona State.

For rivalry's sake, Cal could have been a choice, but the reported resounding no, mutiple times, suggests that that isn't happening.

We’re all speculating and the final number will be what the networks will pay for, but I could see 24 or 28. That said, I think divisions may not come back for football but will be essential for Olympic sports and likely basketball to reign in travel costs. At 24 I think 4 divisions with 7 teams each make sense:

Pacific
USC
UCLA
Oregon
Washington
Arizona?
Arizona State?
Stanford?

Plains
Wisconsin
Iowa
Minnesota
Nebraska
Illinois
Northwestern
Kansas?

Northeast
Michigan
Ohio State
Penn State
Michigan State
Purdue
Indiana
Rutgers

Atlantic
Maryland
UNC?
Virginia?
Duke?
Miami?
?
?

Those last two in the Atlantic are interesting. Florida State? Clemson? Georgia Tech? Notre Dame? Some are pipe dreams and may never happen but…. Here’s a wild card for the Northeast Division that shifts Penn State to the Atlantic: Boston College. I know they are small, private and not great but they also could solidify New England and maybe bring BU and a few others as affiliates for hockey?

Quote:More expansion

Budget forecasts for the 2027 fiscal year include an expected uptick in revenue from the College Football Playoff, money that goes to the Big Ten and then its members. The CFP field is expected to grow from its current structure of 12 teams to possibly 16 next year.

Coyle also expects the Big Ten to expand at some point. The conference grew from 14 members to 18 in 2024, with the addition of Southern Cal, UCLA, Oregon and Washington.

“Our friends at Oregon and Washington wanted so badly to be in the Big Ten that they’re getting half the media revenue. I mean, think about that,” Coyle said. “I think Minnesota is very well positioned. We are a charter member of the Big Ten.

“Whether it’s two days or two years, I do think there is going to be continued fluctuation because we are in this House settlement era for two months now. I can tell you peers in the Big Ten are trying to find revenue, right? What are peers and other conferences trying to do right now? We have the best media deals in the country, so there’s going to be movement.”

https://www.twincities.com/2025/09/19/mi...State=true

(09-05-2025 11:00 AM)NotoriousOne Wrote:  

(09-05-2025 09:31 AM)Skyhawk Wrote:  

(09-05-2025 09:11 AM)Skyhawk Wrote:  

(09-05-2025 06:37 AM)GoBuckeyes1047 Wrote:  

(09-02-2025 08:15 AM)Skyhawk Wrote:  Which is why I just don't think 20 is the number.

If the Big10 is adding NC, then Duke clearly comes along as a package. I can see the NCSU argument for the SEC, but for the Big10, I just think there is no way they'd not take the opportunity to add Duke.

After that, add Miami and Kansas for 22.

And even if NC goes to the SEC, the counter move is still 22.

alumni-rich Miami and Arizona state, and basketball powers Duke and Kansas.

Miami, Duke, and, Kansas, are also strategic moves to prevent the SEC from adding them.

I think Virginia may be part of the conversation, but unless part of an NC package, I don't see them as an immediate add, unless going for more than 20.

Also with 22, you can still play everyone at least once every 3 years while maintaining the up to 3 rivalries protected annually for flex protect with 9 conf. games.

hmm, 22 is exactly that.

(I had to stop and try to count it out lol)

22 - self, -3 protected = 18
18/3 years = 6 schools per year

6 schools per year plus 3 protected = 9 conference games.

Interesting thought, I wonder if the fact that there are those with few than 3 rivals, might affect the choice of what 4 schools are added.

For example, adding Virginia for the east coast schools, Maryland in particular.

Kansas for the long running (1906–2010) matchup that was interrupted in 2010: Kansas-Nebraska. Which apparently is the longest running matchup for Kansas vs Big8 schools.

Interestingly, Nebraska and Miami had a long running one as well: 1951-2015

And there's Stanford with USC and Oregon.

Wouldn't it be interesting if those were the 4 added: Virginia, Kansas, Miami, and Stanford.

hmmm, 28 does the same thing, but every 4 years:

28 - self, -3 protected = 24
24/4 years = 6 schools per year

6 schools per year plus 3 protected = 9 conference games.

So, we could add to Virginia, Kansas, Miami, and Stanford.

NC and Duke to give the east more rivals (and because they're apparently in demand)

GT and Duke also apparently had a long running rivalry.

Then Colorado for another Nebraska rivalry, and history with Stanford.

That leaves 2 schools. Though they were/are slowly building rivalries withUSC or Kansas, or UCLA in basketball, they are mostly rivals with each other, but of the AAU choices left, I think adding a new, alumni-rich state is worth it: Arizona and Arizona State.

For rivalry's sake, Cal could have been a choice, but the reported resounding no, mutiple times, suggests that that isn't happening.

We’re all speculating and the final number will be what the networks will pay for, but I could see 24 or 28. That said, I think divisions may not come back for football but will be essential for Olympic sports and likely basketball to reign in travel costs. At 24 I think 4 divisions with 7 teams each make sense:

Pacific
USC
UCLA
Oregon
Washington
Arizona?
Arizona State?
Stanford?

Plains
Wisconsin
Iowa
Minnesota
Nebraska
Illinois
Northwestern
Kansas?

Northeast
Michigan
Ohio State
Penn State
Michigan State
Purdue
Indiana
Rutgers

Atlantic
Maryland
UNC?
Virginia?
Duke?
Miami?
?
?

Those last two in the Atlantic are interesting. Florida State? Clemson? Georgia Tech? Notre Dame? Some are pipe dreams and may never happen but…. Here’s a wild card for the Northeast Division that shifts Penn State to the Atlantic: Boston College. I know they are small, private and not great but they also could solidify New England and maybe bring BU and a few others as affiliates for hockey?

Add Colorado, push Illinois and Rutgers, and add Georgia Tech.

If NC goes to the SEC, add USF.

At 20: 4 permanent rivals, everyone else 1x every 3 yrs
At 22: 3 permanent rivals, everyone else 1x every 3 yrs
At 24 : 2 permanent rivals, everyone else 1x every 3 yrs

I just don’t see anything over 24 making financial sense. There’s just not enough brands out there who have enough valu.

(09-22-2025 04:25 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  At 20: 4 permanent rivals, everyone else 1x every 3 yrs
At 22: 3 permanent rivals, everyone else 1x every 3 yrs
At 24 : 2 permanent rivals, everyone else 1x every 3 yrs

I just don’t see anything over 24 making financial sense. There’s just not enough brands out there who have enough valu.

If 10 conference games happen -

at 25 : 3 permanent rivals, play 7 each year, every 3 years.

(12-27-2025 02:27 AM)Transic_nyc Wrote:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4RNMEGLXHI

I've said my share of questionable possibilities over the years, but...

One of the fastest ways to be dismissively not taken seriously in college football discussions, is to post about Notre Dame football joining a conference...

I understand your skepticism. What I would say is that the video came from a Domer perspective. If it were from someone not connected to Notre Dame I probably would not have bothered to post it. This isn't to say they are likely to be correct but what if they have a pulse on what's the thinking deep in the organization?

Anyway, Happy New Year.

(12-27-2025 10:48 AM)Skyhawk Wrote:  

(12-27-2025 02:27 AM)Transic_nyc Wrote:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4RNMEGLXHI

I've said my share of questionable possibilities over the years, but...

One of the fastest ways to be dismissively not taken seriously in college football discussions, is to post about Notre Dame football joining a conference...

I agree with the overall sentiment here, but if you watch the video, the podcaster makes several strong points that anyone with a solid business background would likely understand, and probably agree with. This isn’t some conspiracy theory pulled out of thin air; it’s grounded in his understanding of media companies, current industry dynamics, and then layered with recent events.

I’m not confident enough either way to make a firm prediction, but the video itself is genuinely insightful. Importantly, he’s not claiming this is happening, he’s explaining what he believes could happen based on fundamental media economics. It’s a good watch, and I agree with most of his analysis. I’m just not fully sold on the idea of the Irish giving up independence. If and when the ACC folds, I may change my tune.

(12-28-2025 08:21 AM)stechs02 Wrote:  

(12-27-2025 10:48 AM)Skyhawk Wrote:  

(12-27-2025 02:27 AM)Transic_nyc Wrote:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4RNMEGLXHI

I've said my share of questionable possibilities over the years, but...

One of the fastest ways to be dismissively not taken seriously in college football discussions, is to post about Notre Dame football joining a conference...

I agree with the overall sentiment here, but if you watch the video, the podcaster makes several strong points that anyone with a solid business background would likely understand, and probably agree with. This isn’t some conspiracy theory pulled out of thin air; it’s grounded in his understanding of media companies, current industry dynamics, and then layered with recent events.

I’m not confident enough either way to make a firm prediction, but the video itself is genuinely insightful. Importantly, he’s not claiming this is happening, he’s explaining what he believes could happen based on fundamental media economics. It’s a good watch, and I agree with most of his analysis. I’m just not fully sold on the idea of the Irish giving up independence. If and when the ACC folds, I may change my tune.

IF the ACC folds, ND will try to do a partial deal with the Big 12 or dump its other sports in the Big East and try to keep scheduling SEC and Big 12 games.

It will try everything and anything to stay independent and out of the clutches of the Big Ten.

(12-27-2025 03:51 PM)Transic_nyc Wrote:  I understand your skepticism. What I would say is that the video came from a Domer perspective. If it were from someone not connected to Notre Dame I probably would not have bothered to post it. This isn't to say they are likely to be correct but what if they have a pulse on what's the thinking deep in the organization?

Anyway, Happy New Year.

I subcribe to John Kennedy's videos, but he is just a podcaster. Let me know when any of them are ever right and let me know when their opinions mean anything with actual decision makers.

(02-12-2026 01:15 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(12-28-2025 08:21 AM)stechs02 Wrote:  

(12-27-2025 10:48 AM)Skyhawk Wrote:  

(12-27-2025 02:27 AM)Transic_nyc Wrote:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4RNMEGLXHI

I've said my share of questionable possibilities over the years, but...

One of the fastest ways to be dismissively not taken seriously in college football discussions, is to post about Notre Dame football joining a conference...

I agree with the overall sentiment here, but if you watch the video, the podcaster makes several strong points that anyone with a solid business background would likely understand, and probably agree with. This isn’t some conspiracy theory pulled out of thin air; it’s grounded in his understanding of media companies, current industry dynamics, and then layered with recent events.

I’m not confident enough either way to make a firm prediction, but the video itself is genuinely insightful. Importantly, he’s not claiming this is happening, he’s explaining what he believes could happen based on fundamental media economics. It’s a good watch, and I agree with most of his analysis. I’m just not fully sold on the idea of the Irish giving up independence. If and when the ACC folds, I may change my tune.

IF the ACC folds, ND will try to do a partial deal with the Big 12 or dump its other sports in the Big East and try to keep scheduling SEC and Big 12 games.

It will try everything and anything to stay independent and out of the clutches of the Big Ten.

Terry

I respect your insight and opinions and, as a Gen X Michigan grad, I respect the ND program and its independence. I am not attempting to troll or be a contrarian, but I’m curious your opinion. I know a good number of Notre Dame alumni, some former athletes and others who are classified as boosters. My experience with them is as follows:

-Baby Boom: you will pry our independence from our cold, dead hands.
-Gen X: independence is important…but if need to we should join the BIG.
-Millennials: independence is cool, but our schedules kind of suck…why aren’t we in the BIG?

Is my experience unique and not representative? Are younger generations less beholden to this idea than say you and others your age?

(02-12-2026 09:52 PM)NotoriousOne Wrote:  

(02-12-2026 01:15 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(12-28-2025 08:21 AM)stechs02 Wrote:  

(12-27-2025 10:48 AM)Skyhawk Wrote:  

(12-27-2025 02:27 AM)Transic_nyc Wrote:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4RNMEGLXHI

I've said my share of questionable possibilities over the years, but...

One of the fastest ways to be dismissively not taken seriously in college football discussions, is to post about Notre Dame football joining a conference...

I agree with the overall sentiment here, but if you watch the video, the podcaster makes several strong points that anyone with a solid business background would likely understand, and probably agree with. This isn’t some conspiracy theory pulled out of thin air; it’s grounded in his understanding of media companies, current industry dynamics, and then layered with recent events.

I’m not confident enough either way to make a firm prediction, but the video itself is genuinely insightful. Importantly, he’s not claiming this is happening, he’s explaining what he believes could happen based on fundamental media economics. It’s a good watch, and I agree with most of his analysis. I’m just not fully sold on the idea of the Irish giving up independence. If and when the ACC folds, I may change my tune.

IF the ACC folds, ND will try to do a partial deal with the Big 12 or dump its other sports in the Big East and try to keep scheduling SEC and Big 12 games.

It will try everything and anything to stay independent and out of the clutches of the Big Ten.

Terry

I respect your insight and opinions and, as a Gen X Michigan grad, I respect the ND program and its independence. I am not attempting to troll or be a contrarian, but I’m curious your opinion. I know a good number of Notre Dame alumni, some former athletes and others who are classified as boosters. My experience with them is as follows:

-Baby Boom: you will pry our independence from our cold, dead hands.
-Gen X: independence is important…but if need to we should join the BIG.
-Millennials: independence is cool, but our schedules kind of suck…why aren’t we in the BIG?

Is my experience unique and not representative? Are younger generations less beholden to this idea than say you and others your age?

I have no idea and have taken no surveys.

My two sons (ages 39 and 35) are diehard independence or bust guys, but that is a small sample size.

I believe that there are many more pro-independence guys than any other, by a large margin.

P.S. I am always amused by the "Old Guard" reference.

I first heard that around 1995. I was assured then that ND was going to join a conference when the "Old Guard" died off.

That Old Guard must be some long lived mofos.........

B1G should effectively make everybody quasi-independent by implementing 4 schools divisions like the NFL.
- GT, Duke, UVA, UMD
- PSU, OSU, UM, MSU
- IU, PU, IL, NW
- WI, MN, IO, NE
- UO, UW, UCLA, UU
- USC, ND, MIA, RU

Game Breakdown
- 3 versus division
- 5 cross division, rotating (play each school every 4 years)
- 2 preference (e.g. Miami gets 3 games (1 rotating plus 2 preference) vs GT/Duke/UVA/UMD annually; ND can use one preference to play UCLA and keep an annual game in California and one preference to play UM annually).

MBB
- East: ND, PSU, RU, UMD, UVA, Duke, GT, Miami
- Central: OSU, UI, NW, WI, IU, PU, UM, MSU
- West: IO, MN, NE, UU, UO, UW, USC, UCLA

Schedule: 14 in division; 4 fixed rotating (play each school every 4 years), 2 preference.