(06-30-2022 07:56 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  Fresno State and San Jose State have applied to the MAC.

Har Har Har

So this is what happens when a MAC team beats a PAC-whatever team in a bowl game, I guess.

(06-30-2022 08:53 PM)cmufanatic Wrote:  

(06-30-2022 07:36 PM)Buffalo Super Fan Wrote:  

(06-30-2022 03:38 PM)MacLord Wrote:  As someone who has worked with the Pac-10/12 as a client, you'll never meet a more arrogant bunch of people, so in that respect, I am amused. As a fan of regional college football and things like reason and sense, tradition, and all that old-timey stuff, this is a ridiculous joke.

We're left to wonder how it trickles down to affecting the MAC, but the fact is, sooner rather than later, the big schools are going their own Superleague way and most or all of the G5 is going to a second level of relevance, or worse.

UB Bulls have no future upward in Power Five Conference football ever that is why I want UB to join the Big East Conference in basketball. UB will be lucky if they can fund Power 6 Big East Conference football never mind Power 5 or Group of 5 football with NIL I think the UB Bulls football dream was over. UB is struggling keeping up with Atlantic 10 conference St Bonaventure Bonnies basketball in the Western New York market. I am a hardcore UB football fan but when NIL became a thing no way can UB run with that when the Buffalo Bills are king in Buffalo. When the Buffalo Bills choose Orchard Park again for the Bills stadium 45 minutes away from UB those two things it was over.

Connecticut Huskies are the smartest Group of 5 school in the room they went back to the Big East Conference. UB Bulls basketball needs to beg the Big East Conference for UB to replace Syracuse old spot in Big East Conference that is UB only chance at big time now this USC and UCLA only adds to that train of thought UB has no upward mobility in FBS football. We can be special like a Connecticut Huskies in a soon to be renovated Key Bank Center downtown where the Buffalo Sabres play. So you have like a old Hartford Civic Center thing of Hartford Whalers and Connecticut Huskies with the Buffalo Sabres and UB Bulls basketball that is realistic money wise in Buffalo Western New York. New York State wants no part of funding major college football even though UB is a New York State flagship.

UB Bulls basketball is possible because we have no NBA anymore in Buffalo and that ship sailed when I was 10 years old. Buffalo has some of the higher in game attendance for the NCAA basketball tournament. 15,000 at UB Stadium for football isn’t going to get it done but for basketball it will. Plus UB alums are in the Northeast so the Big East Conference playing on Fox on Saturday’s would be huge ratings for UB Bulls basketball in Buffalo. Again it isn’t anything personal I enjoy the MAC but UB can’t be big time in the MAC like the Big East Conference playing St John’s, Seton Hall, Connecticut, Georgetown, DePaul, Marquette and Xavier major league sports markets that Buffalo as a major league city Buffalo sports fans can relate to in my opinion. UB Horns Up! Go Bulls! Let’s Go Buffalo

Yawn don't let the door hit you in the keaster

Maybe UB should return to its glory days in Division 2?

I'm not sure how this shakes out, but one scenario I suppose is that the Mountain West will need new members. I could see them looking at Texas-El Paso and possibly New Mexico State. That could push Middle Tennessee to suddenly regain interest in the MAC.

Perhaps the Mountain West would finally have a need for North Dakota State.

We may also be about to find out if the American Athletic would give Middle Tennessee the first look when Memphis leaves. I could see Memphis leaving for the Big 12 if someone poaches more of that conference.

(06-30-2022 09:47 PM)Schadenfreude Wrote:  I'm not sure how this shakes out, but one scenario I suppose is that the Mountain West will need new members. I could see them looking at Texas-El Paso and possibly New Mexico State. That could push Middle Tennessee to suddenly regain interest in the MAC.

Perhaps the Mountain West would finally have a need for North Dakota State.

We may also be about to find out if the American Athletic would give Middle Tennessee the first look when Memphis leaves. I could see Memphis leaving for the Big 12 if someone poaches more of that conference.

That ship sailed sorry mtsu. This whole big 10 expansion will send Shockwaves. Best to stay put now. Bottom 4 or 6 of big 10 may get left behind perhaps we scoop them up? All very interesting and so many possible outcomes

(07-01-2022 04:37 AM)cmufanatic Wrote:  

(06-30-2022 09:47 PM)Schadenfreude Wrote:  I'm not sure how this shakes out, but one scenario I suppose is that the Mountain West will need new members. I could see them looking at Texas-El Paso and possibly New Mexico State. That could push Middle Tennessee to suddenly regain interest in the MAC.

Perhaps the Mountain West would finally have a need for North Dakota State.

We may also be about to find out if the American Athletic would give Middle Tennessee the first look when Memphis leaves. I could see Memphis leaving for the Big 12 if someone poaches more of that conference.

That ship sailed sorry mtsu. This whole big 10 expansion will send Shockwaves. Best to stay put now. Bottom 4 or 6 of big 10 may get left behind perhaps we scoop them up? All very interesting and so many possible outcomes

Appears an announcement of Oregon and Washington to big 10 is imminent soon

(07-01-2022 05:14 AM)cmufanatic Wrote:  That ship sailed sorry mtsu.

I'm not advocating for them, don't get me wrong.

(06-30-2022 09:16 PM)CMichFan Wrote:  So this is what happens when a MAC team beats a PAC-whatever team in a bowl game, I guess.

(07-01-2022 05:14 AM)cmufanatic Wrote:  Appears an announcement of Oregon and Washington to big 10 is imminent soon

So wouldn't Cincy, UCF and Houston stand a chance to be even bigger winners out of all this?

If Oregon and UW bolt too, the remaining PAC schools may look toward the Big 12 as a life raft, which would give that conference a boost of more 'brands.'

Unless it's the other way around where the PAC poaches the Big 12, but I think the Big 12 would have the upper hand here and do the dictating.

(07-01-2022 07:39 AM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  Unless it's the other way around where the PAC poaches the Big 12, but I think the Big 12 would have the upper hand here and do the dictating.

It depends on how many Pac 12 universities are left. If down to 10 or eight, it wouldn't be difficult to for the Pac 12 to poach the Mountain West, which in turn might look to American Athletic or Conference USA. (Texas-El Paso seems an obvious candidate to me.) If the Pac-12 brings on Brigham Young and San Diego State (for example), and that's still a pretty good conference. Keep adding as needed. (Boise State, Nevada-Las Vegas and Hawaii come to mind.)

Would Kansas or Texas Tech want to be slimmed down Pac 12? I'm skeptical about that.

(07-01-2022 07:39 AM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  

(07-01-2022 05:14 AM)cmufanatic Wrote:  Appears an announcement of Oregon and Washington to big 10 is imminent soon

So wouldn't Cincy, UCF and Houston stand a chance to be even bigger winners out of all this?

If Oregon and UW bolt too, the remaining PAC schools may look toward the Big 12 as a life raft, which would give that conference a boost of more 'brands.'

Unless it's the other way around where the PAC poaches the Big 12, but I think the Big 12 would have the upper hand here and do the dictating.

I could see the old guard of the pac 12 and big 12 merging without the likes of UCF Cincy etc. It's all so crazy and quite asinine really. It really is sad what is happening to one of my most beloved sports, college fb and its all due to greed.

(07-01-2022 08:16 AM)cmufanatic Wrote:  It's all so crazy and quite asinine really. It really is sad what is happening to one of my most beloved sports, college fb and its all due to greed.

I agree 100%. Free agency (NIL + portal) and 16+ team super-conferences stretching from coast to coast is watering down my excitement for the sport, as it evolves into more of an NFC (B1G) and AFC (SEC) arms race. I mean I'll still watch and follow it, but without the same level of enthusiasm as I had just 5+ years ago.

(07-01-2022 08:57 AM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  

(07-01-2022 08:16 AM)cmufanatic Wrote:  It's all so crazy and quite asinine really. It really is sad what is happening to one of my most beloved sports, college fb and its all due to greed.

I agree 100%. Free agency (NIL + portal) and 16+ team super-conferences stretching from coast to coast is watering down my excitement for the sport, as it evolves into more of an NFC (B1G) and AFC (SEC) arms race. I mean I'll still watch and follow it, but without the same level of enthusiasm as I had just 5+ years ago.

Yes exactly you share my same thoughts as well

(06-30-2022 05:09 PM)UVA_guy81 Wrote:  

(06-30-2022 03:38 PM)MacLord Wrote:  As someone who has worked with the Pac-10/12 as a client, you'll never meet a more arrogant bunch of people, so in that respect, I am amused. As a fan of regional college football and things like reason and sense, tradition, and all that old-timey stuff, this is a ridiculous joke.

We're left to wonder how it trickles down to affecting the MAC, but the fact is, sooner rather than later, the big schools are going their own Superleague way and most or all of the G5 is going to a second level of relevance, or worse.

I wonder if the PAC tries to lure some of the Big XII schools as a result. With the ACC ditching the division format, I could possibly see them trying to poach WVU and instead of doing the 3-5-5, doing a 4-5-5 and just adding an extra conference game. Big XII probably poaches whatever they can from the G5 is my guess.

Big 12 is stronger than the Pac 12 at this point. Pac 12 might lose Oregon and Washington too. The Big 12 will take what it wants after that and the MWC will be stronger than the Pac 12.

(07-01-2022 04:37 AM)cmufanatic Wrote:  

(06-30-2022 09:47 PM)Schadenfreude Wrote:  I'm not sure how this shakes out, but one scenario I suppose is that the Mountain West will need new members. I could see them looking at Texas-El Paso and possibly New Mexico State. That could push Middle Tennessee to suddenly regain interest in the MAC.

Perhaps the Mountain West would finally have a need for North Dakota State.

We may also be about to find out if the American Athletic would give Middle Tennessee the first look when Memphis leaves. I could see Memphis leaving for the Big 12 if someone poaches more of that conference.

That ship sailed sorry mtsu. This whole big 10 expansion will send Shockwaves. Best to stay put now. Bottom 4 or 6 of big 10 may get left behind perhaps we scoop them up? All very interesting and so many possible outcomes

I don't think the MAC sits out another conference realignment ripple effect again. I agree that you shouldn't make a change for the the sake of change, but if you can scoop up a couple of schools that will improve your conference, you can't pass it up. Plus if you can put the final death blow to CUSA, you do it.

I don't know if you are kidding or not about the BIG dropping programs, but that will not happen. Besides being driven by money they make off of athletics, the other aspect that the BIG prides itself on is educational prestige of their institutions. They are not going to drop 6 teams because they s*ck at football. If that were the case Northwestern and Illinois would have been long gone.

Utah, Colorado, and the Arizona Schools to the B12! Wazzoo and Oregon State are hosed.

The Rose Bowl is wondering wtf

Sucks to be Washington St and Oregon St.

(07-01-2022 09:12 AM)axeme Wrote:  Sucks to be Washington St and Oregon St.

NDSU, WAZZU, Oregon State and Montana TO THE MAC

(07-01-2022 09:34 AM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  

(07-01-2022 09:12 AM)axeme Wrote:  Sucks to be Washington St and Oregon St.

NDSU, WAZZU, Oregon State and Montana TO THE MAC

Yes please