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(07-10-2022 04:00 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  I heard this in 2017 on the CUSA board.:coffee3:

Nobody doubts the commitment of Appys when it comes to living on other conference's boards. Fake it 'till you make it my friend.
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Holy poo page 8 of the sour grapes thread.
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(07-11-2022 07:56 AM)Nugget49er Wrote:  
(07-10-2022 04:00 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  I heard this in 2017 on the CUSA board.07-coffee3

Nobody doubts the commitment of Appys when it comes to living on other conference's boards. Fake it 'till you make it my friend.

UNCC fans posting fake it till you make is an instant classic. Born on second can’t hit a single.
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clt says the ignore button is your friend. #P6
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RE: Conference perception
(07-11-2022 04:37 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  
(07-11-2022 07:56 AM)Nugget49er Wrote:  
(07-10-2022 04:00 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  I heard this in 2017 on the CUSA board.07-coffee3

Nobody doubts the commitment of Appys when it comes to living on other conference's boards. Fake it 'till you make it my friend.

UNCC fans posting fake it till you make is an instant classic. Born on second can’t hit a single.

I agree we need to win, in both money sports. But that's true for every team. We've shot from FCS to the AAC in less than a decade. I'd say that's pretty amazing and daunting. We were initially hamstrung by an AD that had no clue as to how to run football. That's changed. It's time to start living up to the potential though.
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P3 is just like the G5, only slightly better basketball and football.

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(07-12-2022 08:52 AM)hburg Wrote:  P3 is just like the G5, only slightly better basketball and football.

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RE: Conference perception
(07-07-2022 12:11 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  
(07-07-2022 10:23 AM)r2pirate Wrote:  
(07-02-2022 11:49 AM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  
(07-01-2022 07:38 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  
(07-01-2022 06:44 PM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  Ok...

https://give.ecu.edu/s/722/19/adv-landin...&pgid=2802

clt says that was an epic response,. Anyway have a great weekend, pal
ECU is well on it's way to the half billion dollar benchmark for the current campaign. Since we are pursuing R1 it's probably safe to assume the long term goal is a billion +. Far from broke at any rate. We have competent management in place so things have improved dramatically from the tragedy we had

Agree 100%

clt says we have a roadmap to R1 https://inside.charlotte.edu/news-featur...sification

does eCu have a roadmap? or crayons on a napkin?

What clt needs is a roadmap that shows them how to win more games.

During our school's years together in CUSA ODU had the following records against Charlotte in the 4 biggest sports -

ODU was 4-2 against Charlotte in Football.
ODU was 13-4 against Charlotte in Men's Basketball.
ODU was 8-11 against Charlotte in Women's Basketball.
ODU was 16-14 against Charlotte in Baseball.
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RE: Conference perception
(07-12-2022 11:08 AM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  
(07-07-2022 12:11 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  
(07-07-2022 10:23 AM)r2pirate Wrote:  
(07-02-2022 11:49 AM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  
(07-01-2022 07:38 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  clt says that was an epic response,. Anyway have a great weekend, pal
ECU is well on it's way to the half billion dollar benchmark for the current campaign. Since we are pursuing R1 it's probably safe to assume the long term goal is a billion +. Far from broke at any rate. We have competent management in place so things have improved dramatically from the tragedy we had

Agree 100%

clt says we have a roadmap to R1 https://inside.charlotte.edu/news-featur...sification

does eCu have a roadmap? or crayons on a napkin?

What clt needs is a roadmap that shows them how to win more games.

During our school's years together in CUSA ODU had the following records against Charlotte in the 4 biggest sports -

ODU was 4-2 against Charlotte in Football.
ODU was 13-4 against Charlotte in Men's Basketball.
ODU was 8-11 against Charlotte in Women's Basketball.
ODU was 16-14 against Charlotte in Baseball.

No doubt we need to get back to where we were in basketball. No faith in current coach to do that though, so.... BTW, still mad at Alex Loughton dropping 45 on us in that double overtime game. At least we won that one. As far as football, we are hopefully heading in the right direction, given our short time on the gridiron. Baseball seem to be pretty even.
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RE: Conference perception
(07-12-2022 11:15 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(07-12-2022 11:08 AM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  
(07-07-2022 12:11 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  
(07-07-2022 10:23 AM)r2pirate Wrote:  
(07-02-2022 11:49 AM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  ECU is well on it's way to the half billion dollar benchmark for the current campaign. Since we are pursuing R1 it's probably safe to assume the long term goal is a billion +. Far from broke at any rate. We have competent management in place so things have improved dramatically from the tragedy we had

Agree 100%

clt says we have a roadmap to R1 https://inside.charlotte.edu/news-featur...sification

does eCu have a roadmap? or crayons on a napkin?

What clt needs is a roadmap that shows them how to win more games.

During our school's years together in CUSA ODU had the following records against Charlotte in the 4 biggest sports -

ODU was 4-2 against Charlotte in Football.
ODU was 13-4 against Charlotte in Men's Basketball.
ODU was 8-11 against Charlotte in Women's Basketball.
ODU was 16-14 against Charlotte in Baseball.

No doubt we need to get back to where we were in basketball. No faith in current coach to do that though, so.... BTW, still mad at Alex Loughton dropping 45 on us in that double overtime game. At least we won that one. As far as football, we are hopefully heading in the right direction, given our short time on the gridiron. Baseball seem to be pretty even.

I was sitting in the front row courtside at that overtime loss to Charlotte when Laughton scored 45. Charlotte had a hot shooting guard that put up a lot of points that day as well. It was a tough loss, but a great game to watch none the less.

ODU also feels like we have headed in the right direction with our coach from Penn State about to coach in his second year of games for the Monarchs.

In basketball, we're keeping our heads dry while treading water right now. We anticipate having a new head coach in another year or two that will take us to more success.
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(07-12-2022 12:29 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  
(07-12-2022 11:15 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(07-12-2022 11:08 AM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  
(07-07-2022 12:11 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  
(07-07-2022 10:23 AM)r2pirate Wrote:  Agree 100%

clt says we have a roadmap to R1 https://inside.charlotte.edu/news-featur...sification

does eCu have a roadmap? or crayons on a napkin?

What clt needs is a roadmap that shows them how to win more games.

During our school's years together in CUSA ODU had the following records against Charlotte in the 4 biggest sports -

ODU was 4-2 against Charlotte in Football.
ODU was 13-4 against Charlotte in Men's Basketball.
ODU was 8-11 against Charlotte in Women's Basketball.
ODU was 16-14 against Charlotte in Baseball.

No doubt we need to get back to where we were in basketball. No faith in current coach to do that though, so.... BTW, still mad at Alex Loughton dropping 45 on us in that double overtime game. At least we won that one. As far as football, we are hopefully heading in the right direction, given our short time on the gridiron. Baseball seem to be pretty even.

I was sitting in the front row courtside at that overtime loss to Charlotte when Laughton scored 45. Charlotte had a hot shooting guard that put up a lot of points that day as well. It was a tough loss, but a great game to watch none the less.

ODU also feels like we have headed in the right direction with our coach from Penn State about to coach in his second year of games for the Monarchs.

In basketball, we're keeping our heads dry while treading water right now. We anticipate having a new head coach in another year or two that will take us to more success.

I was there as well, my first and only visit to the Ted Constant Convocation Center. It was an incredible game. Luckily we had Plavich to hit the winning shot.
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(07-10-2022 04:56 PM)owlumni Wrote:  
(07-10-2022 04:46 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  
(07-10-2022 04:27 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  First they ignore at you
Then they laugh at you <— we are here
Then they fight you
Then you win

Ha! Ha! Ha! We are certainly still at the laugh at you stage. 03-lmfao

They're over there making plans for Memphis to join. It's funny af.

Now they're talking about Houston and UCF as possibilities. Lololol.
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clt says it is sad to have to block an odu fan…..what a tennis facility.
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RE: Conference perception
(07-10-2022 02:28 PM)owlumni Wrote:  
(07-10-2022 02:02 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  
(07-09-2022 10:45 PM)Thewavefan Wrote:  And yet we were chosen to be in a top tier conference while nobody has even heard of your program and your conference. Make that make sense to me junior. Probably because we are considered an elite program while your school gets confused with a junior college. The no market strategy of the Sun Belt has to be the worst strategy ever in college athletics. But I guess if you think playing in front of a capacity crowd of 17,000 on ESPN 3 is “big time” then I say good for you sir, enjoy your success.

LOL. Tulane had 1/3 of their games on ESPN+ last season, and Troy averages about 7,000 more per game than Tulane.
So would you like to try that again?

You try to talk big for a fan of a school that, again, has absolutely nothing to show for.

Tulane wasn't elite in CUSA. They aren't elite in the AAC. They're fodder that has reached its pinnacle.

CBT: Tulane only had 8 nationally televised games last season!
*checks notes* Troy only had 2.

What a weird flex.

This is worth drilling down a little more.

In 2021, Tulane had eight nationally televised games.
Seven of those eight were on the AAC media deal.
Of those seven, three on ESPNU don't have reported viewers.
In four AAC games with reported viewers, Tulane had 3,962,000 viewers. That's 15% of the AAC's conference controlled inventory viewers, so Tulane is pulling their weight.
Also -- that's about 67.9% of the entire Sun Belt conference controlled inventory viewership. No Sun Belt school had as many conference-controlled-inventory viewers as Tulane did in 2021. None.
Louisiana does edge ahead of Tulane when viewers are added for other conference's inventory -- Louisiana's body bag / paycheck game at Texas was a big number. The difference is that Tulane has the juice to get a home and home with Oklahoma, so the AAC gets money for selling that to Disney. (Some Sun Belt fans will come on here and saying those home ooc games don't matter, so I'll get ahead of that by saying those Sun Belt fans - or others saying that - are ignorant. In addition to the AAC vs AAC inventory we're selling Notre Dame at Navy every other year, and that Oklahoma game, and Florida at USF, and, and, and)
Troy? One Nielsen rated game - at Coastal got 290,000 viewers.

In 2020, I have Tulane with seven Nielsen rated games.
Six of the seven were in the AAC deal, involving 3,646,000 viewers. 17% of the AAC's conference controlled inventory viewers, so pulling their weight.
The seventh? Tulane at South Alabama on ESPN2 got 516,000 viewers. Tulane was the seventh best of nineteen Sun Belt Nielsen rated games. Eleven Sun Belt vs Sun Belt games have viewer numbers, and only four of eleven Sun Belt vs Sun Belt were better than Sun Belt vs Tulane. Tulane had three times as many Sun Belt conference controlled inventory viewers as Troy did.
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RE: Conference perception
(07-12-2022 07:28 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(07-10-2022 02:28 PM)owlumni Wrote:  
(07-10-2022 02:02 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  
(07-09-2022 10:45 PM)Thewavefan Wrote:  And yet we were chosen to be in a top tier conference while nobody has even heard of your program and your conference. Make that make sense to me junior. Probably because we are considered an elite program while your school gets confused with a junior college. The no market strategy of the Sun Belt has to be the worst strategy ever in college athletics. But I guess if you think playing in front of a capacity crowd of 17,000 on ESPN 3 is “big time” then I say good for you sir, enjoy your success.

LOL. Tulane had 1/3 of their games on ESPN+ last season, and Troy averages about 7,000 more per game than Tulane.
So would you like to try that again?

You try to talk big for a fan of a school that, again, has absolutely nothing to show for.

Tulane wasn't elite in CUSA. They aren't elite in the AAC. They're fodder that has reached its pinnacle.

CBT: Tulane only had 8 nationally televised games last season!
*checks notes* Troy only had 2.

What a weird flex.

This is worth drilling down a little more.

In 2021, Tulane had eight nationally televised games.
Seven of those eight were on the AAC media deal.
Of those seven, three on ESPNU don't have reported viewers.
In four AAC games with reported viewers, Tulane had 3,962,000 viewers. That's 15% of the AAC's conference controlled inventory viewers, so Tulane is pulling their weight.
Also -- that's about 67.9% of the entire Sun Belt conference controlled inventory viewership. No Sun Belt school had as many conference-controlled-inventory viewers as Tulane did in 2021. None.
Louisiana does edge ahead of Tulane when viewers are added for other conference's inventory -- Louisiana's body bag / paycheck game at Texas was a big number. The difference is that Tulane has the juice to get a home and home with Oklahoma, so the AAC gets money for selling that to Disney. (Some Sun Belt fans will come on here and saying those home ooc games don't matter, so I'll get ahead of that by saying those Sun Belt fans - or others saying that - are ignorant. In addition to the AAC vs AAC inventory we're selling Notre Dame at Navy every other year, and that Oklahoma game, and Florida at USF, and, and, and)
Troy? One Nielsen rated game - at Coastal got 290,000 viewers.

In 2020, I have Tulane with seven Nielsen rated games.
Six of the seven were in the AAC deal, involving 3,646,000 viewers. 17% of the AAC's conference controlled inventory viewers, so pulling their weight.
The seventh? Tulane at South Alabama on ESPN2 got 516,000 viewers. Tulane was the seventh best of nineteen Sun Belt Nielsen rated games. Eleven Sun Belt vs Sun Belt games have viewer numbers, and only four of eleven Sun Belt vs Sun Belt were better than Sun Belt vs Tulane. Tulane had three times as many Sun Belt conference controlled inventory viewers as Troy did.

Target acquired and destroyed. The Navy strikes again.

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RE: Conference perception
(07-12-2022 07:50 PM)58-56 Wrote:  
(07-12-2022 07:28 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(07-10-2022 02:28 PM)owlumni Wrote:  
(07-10-2022 02:02 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  
(07-09-2022 10:45 PM)Thewavefan Wrote:  And yet we were chosen to be in a top tier conference while nobody has even heard of your program and your conference. Make that make sense to me junior. Probably because we are considered an elite program while your school gets confused with a junior college. The no market strategy of the Sun Belt has to be the worst strategy ever in college athletics. But I guess if you think playing in front of a capacity crowd of 17,000 on ESPN 3 is “big time” then I say good for you sir, enjoy your success.

LOL. Tulane had 1/3 of their games on ESPN+ last season, and Troy averages about 7,000 more per game than Tulane.
So would you like to try that again?

You try to talk big for a fan of a school that, again, has absolutely nothing to show for.

Tulane wasn't elite in CUSA. They aren't elite in the AAC. They're fodder that has reached its pinnacle.

CBT: Tulane only had 8 nationally televised games last season!
*checks notes* Troy only had 2.

What a weird flex.

This is worth drilling down a little more.

In 2021, Tulane had eight nationally televised games.
Seven of those eight were on the AAC media deal.
Of those seven, three on ESPNU don't have reported viewers.
In four AAC games with reported viewers, Tulane had 3,962,000 viewers. That's 15% of the AAC's conference controlled inventory viewers, so Tulane is pulling their weight.
Also -- that's about 67.9% of the entire Sun Belt conference controlled inventory viewership. No Sun Belt school had as many conference-controlled-inventory viewers as Tulane did in 2021. None.
Louisiana does edge ahead of Tulane when viewers are added for other conference's inventory -- Louisiana's body bag / paycheck game at Texas was a big number. The difference is that Tulane has the juice to get a home and home with Oklahoma, so the AAC gets money for selling that to Disney. (Some Sun Belt fans will come on here and saying those home ooc games don't matter, so I'll get ahead of that by saying those Sun Belt fans - or others saying that - are ignorant. In addition to the AAC vs AAC inventory we're selling Notre Dame at Navy every other year, and that Oklahoma game, and Florida at USF, and, and, and)
Troy? One Nielsen rated game - at Coastal got 290,000 viewers.

In 2020, I have Tulane with seven Nielsen rated games.
Six of the seven were in the AAC deal, involving 3,646,000 viewers. 17% of the AAC's conference controlled inventory viewers, so pulling their weight.
The seventh? Tulane at South Alabama on ESPN2 got 516,000 viewers. Tulane was the seventh best of nineteen Sun Belt Nielsen rated games. Eleven Sun Belt vs Sun Belt games have viewer numbers, and only four of eleven Sun Belt vs Sun Belt were better than Sun Belt vs Tulane. Tulane had three times as many Sun Belt conference controlled inventory viewers as Troy did.

Target acquired and destroyed. The Navy strikes again.

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Oh, another point we can take away from this look at actual viewer data...we don't need six out of six new members to be Cincinnati.
The overall deal kept the overall payout because our overall inventory went up from the 11-team inventory. A lot of that goes to ESPN+, and it is just fine if three or four of the new teams are ESPN+ fodder. Whoever is AAC#1 and AAC#2 will get the ABC and ESPN slots and get appropriate numbers...So if Navy keeps Navying and Tulane keeps Tulaning, etc, we really only need a couple of the new six teams to perform like the middle of the pack of the legacy teams to keep our viewer numbers up where they are.
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(07-12-2022 07:50 PM)58-56 Wrote:  
(07-12-2022 07:28 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(07-10-2022 02:28 PM)owlumni Wrote:  
(07-10-2022 02:02 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  
(07-09-2022 10:45 PM)Thewavefan Wrote:  And yet we were chosen to be in a top tier conference while nobody has even heard of your program and your conference. Make that make sense to me junior. Probably because we are considered an elite program while your school gets confused with a junior college. The no market strategy of the Sun Belt has to be the worst strategy ever in college athletics. But I guess if you think playing in front of a capacity crowd of 17,000 on ESPN 3 is “big time” then I say good for you sir, enjoy your success.

LOL. Tulane had 1/3 of their games on ESPN+ last season, and Troy averages about 7,000 more per game than Tulane.
So would you like to try that again?

You try to talk big for a fan of a school that, again, has absolutely nothing to show for.

Tulane wasn't elite in CUSA. They aren't elite in the AAC. They're fodder that has reached its pinnacle.

CBT: Tulane only had 8 nationally televised games last season!
*checks notes* Troy only had 2.

What a weird flex.

This is worth drilling down a little more.

In 2021, Tulane had eight nationally televised games.
Seven of those eight were on the AAC media deal.
Of those seven, three on ESPNU don't have reported viewers.
In four AAC games with reported viewers, Tulane had 3,962,000 viewers. That's 15% of the AAC's conference controlled inventory viewers, so Tulane is pulling their weight.
Also -- that's about 67.9% of the entire Sun Belt conference controlled inventory viewership. No Sun Belt school had as many conference-controlled-inventory viewers as Tulane did in 2021. None.
Louisiana does edge ahead of Tulane when viewers are added for other conference's inventory -- Louisiana's body bag / paycheck game at Texas was a big number. The difference is that Tulane has the juice to get a home and home with Oklahoma, so the AAC gets money for selling that to Disney. (Some Sun Belt fans will come on here and saying those home ooc games don't matter, so I'll get ahead of that by saying those Sun Belt fans - or others saying that - are ignorant. In addition to the AAC vs AAC inventory we're selling Notre Dame at Navy every other year, and that Oklahoma game, and Florida at USF, and, and, and)
Troy? One Nielsen rated game - at Coastal got 290,000 viewers.

In 2020, I have Tulane with seven Nielsen rated games.
Six of the seven were in the AAC deal, involving 3,646,000 viewers. 17% of the AAC's conference controlled inventory viewers, so pulling their weight.
The seventh? Tulane at South Alabama on ESPN2 got 516,000 viewers. Tulane was the seventh best of nineteen Sun Belt Nielsen rated games. Eleven Sun Belt vs Sun Belt games have viewer numbers, and only four of eleven Sun Belt vs Sun Belt were better than Sun Belt vs Tulane. Tulane had three times as many Sun Belt conference controlled inventory viewers as Troy did.

Target acquired and destroyed. The Navy strikes again.

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RE: Conference perception
(07-12-2022 07:28 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(07-10-2022 02:28 PM)owlumni Wrote:  
(07-10-2022 02:02 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  
(07-09-2022 10:45 PM)Thewavefan Wrote:  And yet we were chosen to be in a top tier conference while nobody has even heard of your program and your conference. Make that make sense to me junior. Probably because we are considered an elite program while your school gets confused with a junior college. The no market strategy of the Sun Belt has to be the worst strategy ever in college athletics. But I guess if you think playing in front of a capacity crowd of 17,000 on ESPN 3 is “big time” then I say good for you sir, enjoy your success.

LOL. Tulane had 1/3 of their games on ESPN+ last season, and Troy averages about 7,000 more per game than Tulane.
So would you like to try that again?

You try to talk big for a fan of a school that, again, has absolutely nothing to show for.

Tulane wasn't elite in CUSA. They aren't elite in the AAC. They're fodder that has reached its pinnacle.

CBT: Tulane only had 8 nationally televised games last season!
*checks notes* Troy only had 2.

What a weird flex.

This is worth drilling down a little more.

In 2021, Tulane had eight nationally televised games.
Seven of those eight were on the AAC media deal.
Of those seven, three on ESPNU don't have reported viewers.
In four AAC games with reported viewers, Tulane had 3,962,000 viewers. That's 15% of the AAC's conference controlled inventory viewers, so Tulane is pulling their weight.
Also -- that's about 67.9% of the entire Sun Belt conference controlled inventory viewership. No Sun Belt school had as many conference-controlled-inventory viewers as Tulane did in 2021. None.
Louisiana does edge ahead of Tulane when viewers are added for other conference's inventory -- Louisiana's body bag / paycheck game at Texas was a big number. The difference is that Tulane has the juice to get a home and home with Oklahoma, so the AAC gets money for selling that to Disney. (Some Sun Belt fans will come on here and saying those home ooc games don't matter, so I'll get ahead of that by saying those Sun Belt fans - or others saying that - are ignorant. In addition to the AAC vs AAC inventory we're selling Notre Dame at Navy every other year, and that Oklahoma game, and Florida at USF, and, and, and)
Troy? One Nielsen rated game - at Coastal got 290,000 viewers.

In 2020, I have Tulane with seven Nielsen rated games.
Six of the seven were in the AAC deal, involving 3,646,000 viewers. 17% of the AAC's conference controlled inventory viewers, so pulling their weight.
The seventh? Tulane at South Alabama on ESPN2 got 516,000 viewers. Tulane was the seventh best of nineteen Sun Belt Nielsen rated games. Eleven Sun Belt vs Sun Belt games have viewer numbers, and only four of eleven Sun Belt vs Sun Belt were better than Sun Belt vs Tulane. Tulane had three times as many Sun Belt conference controlled inventory viewers as Troy did.

Thank you. Points for you.

For years I have tried to explain the importance of signing home and home OOC games with quality P5 programs, because the rights to those home games fall into conference media packages. I tried to explain to posters on the C-USA board how signing on for body-bag games at P5 programs is a terrible path, but most either didn't want to hear it or just ignored the subject. Not surprisingly, those programs that are continuing to whore out their programs in P5 money games are the same programs that got left in C-USA or moved to the Sun Belt.

There are some Sun Belt trolls around this board that fail to understand how their body-bag scheduling philosophy will continue to hurt the the Sun Belt and keep them behind the AAC. Of course there are other factors that will also keep the Sun Belt behind the AAC.
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RE: Conference perception
(07-12-2022 07:28 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(07-10-2022 02:28 PM)owlumni Wrote:  
(07-10-2022 02:02 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  
(07-09-2022 10:45 PM)Thewavefan Wrote:  And yet we were chosen to be in a top tier conference while nobody has even heard of your program and your conference. Make that make sense to me junior. Probably because we are considered an elite program while your school gets confused with a junior college. The no market strategy of the Sun Belt has to be the worst strategy ever in college athletics. But I guess if you think playing in front of a capacity crowd of 17,000 on ESPN 3 is “big time” then I say good for you sir, enjoy your success.

LOL. Tulane had 1/3 of their games on ESPN+ last season, and Troy averages about 7,000 more per game than Tulane.
So would you like to try that again?

You try to talk big for a fan of a school that, again, has absolutely nothing to show for.

Tulane wasn't elite in CUSA. They aren't elite in the AAC. They're fodder that has reached its pinnacle.

CBT: Tulane only had 8 nationally televised games last season!
*checks notes* Troy only had 2.

What a weird flex.

This is worth drilling down a little more.

In 2021, Tulane had eight nationally televised games.
Seven of those eight were on the AAC media deal.
Of those seven, three on ESPNU don't have reported viewers.
In four AAC games with reported viewers, Tulane had 3,962,000 viewers. That's 15% of the AAC's conference controlled inventory viewers, so Tulane is pulling their weight.
Also -- that's about 67.9% of the entire Sun Belt conference controlled inventory viewership. No Sun Belt school had as many conference-controlled-inventory viewers as Tulane did in 2021. None.
Louisiana does edge ahead of Tulane when viewers are added for other conference's inventory -- Louisiana's body bag / paycheck game at Texas was a big number. The difference is that Tulane has the juice to get a home and home with Oklahoma, so the AAC gets money for selling that to Disney. (Some Sun Belt fans will come on here and saying those home ooc games don't matter, so I'll get ahead of that by saying those Sun Belt fans - or others saying that - are ignorant. In addition to the AAC vs AAC inventory we're selling Notre Dame at Navy every other year, and that Oklahoma game, and Florida at USF, and, and, and)
Troy? One Nielsen rated game - at Coastal got 290,000 viewers.

In 2020, I have Tulane with seven Nielsen rated games.
Six of the seven were in the AAC deal, involving 3,646,000 viewers. 17% of the AAC's conference controlled inventory viewers, so pulling their weight.
The seventh? Tulane at South Alabama on ESPN2 got 516,000 viewers. Tulane was the seventh best of nineteen Sun Belt Nielsen rated games. Eleven Sun Belt vs Sun Belt games have viewer numbers, and only four of eleven Sun Belt vs Sun Belt were better than Sun Belt vs Tulane. Tulane had three times as many Sun Belt conference controlled inventory viewers as Troy did.

All seemingly true as usual from you Navy. And true that the AAC still has some power to swing stuff like this, for now. I think SMU, Navy and apparently Tulane still have the vig to get a blueblood at home once in a while.

But having 70% of their viewership from one once in a lifetime game against a blue blood isn't sustainable.

We'll see how their 2022 #s add up with a very pedestrian OOC schedule, although i think the USM-TUL matchup could create a fair amount of regional interest.
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RE: Conference perception
(07-12-2022 09:38 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  
(07-12-2022 07:28 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(07-10-2022 02:28 PM)owlumni Wrote:  
(07-10-2022 02:02 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  
(07-09-2022 10:45 PM)Thewavefan Wrote:  And yet we were chosen to be in a top tier conference while nobody has even heard of your program and your conference. Make that make sense to me junior. Probably because we are considered an elite program while your school gets confused with a junior college. The no market strategy of the Sun Belt has to be the worst strategy ever in college athletics. But I guess if you think playing in front of a capacity crowd of 17,000 on ESPN 3 is “big time” then I say good for you sir, enjoy your success.

LOL. Tulane had 1/3 of their games on ESPN+ last season, and Troy averages about 7,000 more per game than Tulane.
So would you like to try that again?

You try to talk big for a fan of a school that, again, has absolutely nothing to show for.

Tulane wasn't elite in CUSA. They aren't elite in the AAC. They're fodder that has reached its pinnacle.

CBT: Tulane only had 8 nationally televised games last season!
*checks notes* Troy only had 2.

What a weird flex.

This is worth drilling down a little more.

In 2021, Tulane had eight nationally televised games.
Seven of those eight were on the AAC media deal.
Of those seven, three on ESPNU don't have reported viewers.
In four AAC games with reported viewers, Tulane had 3,962,000 viewers. That's 15% of the AAC's conference controlled inventory viewers, so Tulane is pulling their weight.
Also -- that's about 67.9% of the entire Sun Belt conference controlled inventory viewership. No Sun Belt school had as many conference-controlled-inventory viewers as Tulane did in 2021. None.
Louisiana does edge ahead of Tulane when viewers are added for other conference's inventory -- Louisiana's body bag / paycheck game at Texas was a big number. The difference is that Tulane has the juice to get a home and home with Oklahoma, so the AAC gets money for selling that to Disney. (Some Sun Belt fans will come on here and saying those home ooc games don't matter, so I'll get ahead of that by saying those Sun Belt fans - or others saying that - are ignorant. In addition to the AAC vs AAC inventory we're selling Notre Dame at Navy every other year, and that Oklahoma game, and Florida at USF, and, and, and)
Troy? One Nielsen rated game - at Coastal got 290,000 viewers.

In 2020, I have Tulane with seven Nielsen rated games.
Six of the seven were in the AAC deal, involving 3,646,000 viewers. 17% of the AAC's conference controlled inventory viewers, so pulling their weight.
The seventh? Tulane at South Alabama on ESPN2 got 516,000 viewers. Tulane was the seventh best of nineteen Sun Belt Nielsen rated games. Eleven Sun Belt vs Sun Belt games have viewer numbers, and only four of eleven Sun Belt vs Sun Belt were better than Sun Belt vs Tulane. Tulane had three times as many Sun Belt conference controlled inventory viewers as Troy did.

Thank you. Points for you.

For years I have tried to explain the importance of signing home and home OOC games with quality P5 programs, because the rights to those home games fall into conference media packages. I tried to explain to posters on the C-USA board how signing on for body-bag games at P5 programs is a terrible path, but most either didn't want to hear it or just ignored the subject. Not surprisingly, those programs that are continuing to whore out their programs in P5 money games are the same programs that got left in C-USA or moved to the Sun Belt.

There are some Sun Belt trolls around this board that fail to understand how their body-bag scheduling philosophy will continue to hurt the the Sun Belt and keep them behind the AAC. Of course there are other factors that will also keep the Sun Belt behind the AAC.

its much harder to schedule H/H or even buy games with P5s when you have a competitive program and don't offer a marquee place to showcase for recruits. Our AD has spoken on this many times. Any mid level and lower P5 school that isn't located within the Carolinas has straight up declined to play us. The only ones we can get to play us are local (which is great) or the upper echelon SEC/B1G teams who are the least likely to agree to a home and home.

The trials of success.
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