After reading the G5 mailbag in the Athletic I decided to compile the numbers based on stratification Vannini used. It seems we are in good shape because perception is reality. While the MWC has Boise, we both have 4 teams in the top 2 tiers and despite having 2 more members we have 1 fewer mediocre program than them and 3 fewer than the SBC.

MWC 1 elite (Boise), 3 very good, 5 good, 3 mediocre
AAC 0 elite, 4 very good, 8 good, 2 mediocre
SBC 0 elite, 3 very good, 5 good, 5 mediocre, 1 FCS (James Madison)
MAC 0 elite, 1 very good, 9 good, 2 mediocre
CUSA 0 elite, 0 very good, 4 good, 3 mediocre + 2 FCS (SHSU + JSU)

(06-29-2022 11:17 AM)mustangxc Wrote:  After reading the G5 mailbag in the Athletic I decided to compile the numbers based on stratification Vannini used. It seems we are in good shape because perception is reality. While the MWC has Boise, we both have 4 teams in the top 2 tiers and despite having 2 more members we have 1 fewer mediocre program than them and 3 fewer than the SBC.

MWC 1 elite (Boise), 3 very good, 5 good, 3 mediocre
AAC 0 elite, 4 very good, 8 good, 2 mediocre
SBC 0 elite, 3 very good, 5 good, 5 mediocre, 1 FCS (James Madison)
MAC 0 elite, 1 very good, 9 good, 2 mediocre
CUSA 0 elite, 0 very good, 4 good, 3 mediocre + 2 FCS (SHSU + JSU)

Are we doing guess who the mediocre teams are? Who are Rice and Tulane for $100.

Perception is not reality. Reality lags perception. The reality is - unless improvement occurs - the MWC will likely leapfrog the AAC and the AAC neck and neck with the SBC.

(06-29-2022 11:17 AM)mustangxc Wrote:  After reading the G5 mailbag in the Athletic I decided to compile the numbers based on stratification Vannini used. It seems we are in good shape because perception is reality. While the MWC has Boise, we both have 4 teams in the top 2 tiers and despite having 2 more members we have 1 fewer mediocre program than them and 3 fewer than the SBC.

MWC 1 elite (Boise), 3 very good, 5 good, 3 mediocre
AAC 0 elite, 4 very good, 8 good, 2 mediocre
SBC 0 elite, 3 very good, 5 good, 5 mediocre, 1 FCS (James Madison)
MAC 0 elite, 1 very good, 9 good, 2 mediocre
CUSA 0 elite, 0 very good, 4 good, 3 mediocre + 2 FCS (SHSU + JSU)

I'll take very good for $1000. Who are SMU, Memphis, UAB, and ECU?

I'll take good for $500. Who are UNT, CLT, UTSA, FAU, Tulsa, USF, Temple, and Navy?

(06-29-2022 11:30 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  Perception is not reality. Reality lags perception. The reality is - unless improvement occurs - the MWC will likely leapfrog the AAC and the AAC neck and neck with the SBC.

The reality is the AAC took Tulsa and Tulane and somehow got the P6 thing to stick in 10 short years. The AAC has proven they are a well run organization, and I am willing to stake my reputation(worth nothing on internet forums) on the AAC being the pack leader again in 10 years.

(06-29-2022 11:28 AM)UTSA_Alum Wrote:  

(06-29-2022 11:17 AM)mustangxc Wrote:  After reading the G5 mailbag in the Athletic I decided to compile the numbers based on stratification Vannini used. It seems we are in good shape because perception is reality. While the MWC has Boise, we both have 4 teams in the top 2 tiers and despite having 2 more members we have 1 fewer mediocre program than them and 3 fewer than the SBC.

MWC 1 elite (Boise), 3 very good, 5 good, 3 mediocre
AAC 0 elite, 4 very good, 8 good, 2 mediocre
SBC 0 elite, 3 very good, 5 good, 5 mediocre, 1 FCS (James Madison)
MAC 0 elite, 1 very good, 9 good, 2 mediocre
CUSA 0 elite, 0 very good, 4 good, 3 mediocre + 2 FCS (SHSU + JSU)

Are we doing guess who the mediocre teams are? Who are Rice and Tulane for $100.

We're just happy to be ranked that high.

(06-29-2022 11:36 AM)UTSA_Alum Wrote:  

(06-29-2022 11:30 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  Perception is not reality. Reality lags perception. The reality is - unless improvement occurs - the MWC will likely leapfrog the AAC and the AAC neck and neck with the SBC.

The reality is the AAC took Tulsa and Tulane and somehow got the P6 thing to stick in 10 short years. The AAC has proven they are a well run organization, and I am willing to stake my reputation(worth nothing on internet forums) on the AAC being the pack leader again in 10 years.

FB Massey Composite Index
Average Ranking 2019, 2020, 2021
Tulane..........75
Tulsa............60

Charlotte.....104
FAU..............74
NTU............109
Rice............109
UAB..............61
UTSA............79

None of the CUSA refugees exceeded the performance of the school you maligned - Tulsa. Only two of the six CUSA refugees exceeded Tulane. The reality is the additions (save UAB) are terrible to mediocre on the field.

Ten years is a long, long time and massive improvement will be required by the additions to even meet that distant goal. A change in conference alone will not suffice. Sustained and material investments are required.

Why isn't there a level below mediocre?

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(06-29-2022 12:08 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(06-29-2022 11:36 AM)UTSA_Alum Wrote:  

(06-29-2022 11:30 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  Perception is not reality. Reality lags perception. The reality is - unless improvement occurs - the MWC will likely leapfrog the AAC and the AAC neck and neck with the SBC.

The reality is the AAC took Tulsa and Tulane and somehow got the P6 thing to stick in 10 short years. The AAC has proven they are a well run organization, and I am willing to stake my reputation(worth nothing on internet forums) on the AAC being the pack leader again in 10 years.

FB Massey Composite Index
Average Ranking 2019, 2020, 2021
Tulane..........75
Tulsa............60

Charlotte.....104
FAU..............74
NTU............109
Rice............109
UAB..............61
UTSA............79

None of the CUSA refugees exceeded the performance of the school you maligned - Tulsa. Only two of the six CUSA refugees exceeded Tulane. The reality is the additions (save UAB) are terrible to mediocre on the field.

Ten years is a long, long time and massive improvement will be required by the additions to even meet that distant goal. A change in conference alone will not suffice. Sustained and material investments are required.

Do we need to drop in the Massey composites of our 4 "very good" teams from when they were in CUSA pre-AAC?

(06-29-2022 11:30 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  Perception is not reality. Reality lags perception. The reality is - unless improvement occurs - the MWC will likely leapfrog the AAC and the AAC neck and neck with the SBC.

Agree MWC will temporarily jump AAC, (not by much) but that will be a temp jump. Sunbelt took best still available after AAC got who they wanted. To act like they are now neck and neck is ridiculous. The leftover 8 of AAC will get 3 to 4 times the $$ and better TV slots than the Belt.

(06-29-2022 12:11 PM)b2b Wrote:  Why isn't there a level below mediocre?

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Shocknawe says that The AAC should rebrand as CUSAAC and hire John cusack to do a tv commercial promoting the new conference

(06-29-2022 12:34 PM)shocknawe Wrote:  

(06-29-2022 12:11 PM)b2b Wrote:  Why isn't there a level below mediocre?

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Shocknawe says that The AAC should rebrand as CUSAAC and hire John cusack to do a tv commercial promoting the new conference

(06-29-2022 12:24 PM)goodknightfl Wrote:  

(06-29-2022 11:30 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  Perception is not reality. Reality lags perception. The reality is - unless improvement occurs - the MWC will likely leapfrog the AAC and the AAC neck and neck with the SBC.

Agree MWC will temporarily jump AAC, (not by much) but that will be a temp jump. Sunbelt took best still available after AAC got who they wanted. To act like they are now neck and neck is ridiculous. The leftover 8 of AAC will get 3 to 4 times the $$ and better TV slots than the Belt.

Massey Composite Index
Average 2019, 2020, 2021 Seasons

New AAC....81
New SBC....82

(06-29-2022 12:39 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(06-29-2022 12:34 PM)shocknawe Wrote:  

(06-29-2022 12:11 PM)b2b Wrote:  Why isn't there a level below mediocre?

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Shocknawe says that The AAC should rebrand as CUSAAC and hire John cusack to do a tv commercial promoting the new conference

clt asks do you ever post anything positive about the aac? #P6

(06-29-2022 12:43 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  

(06-29-2022 12:39 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(06-29-2022 12:34 PM)shocknawe Wrote:  

(06-29-2022 12:11 PM)b2b Wrote:  Why isn't there a level below mediocre?

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Shocknawe says that The AAC should rebrand as CUSAAC and hire John cusack to do a tv commercial promoting the new conference

clt asks do you ever post anything positive about the aac? #P6

Will you ever post using the first person?

Realistically, there is little positive for the left-overs to grasp. I hope I am wrong, but hope is a thin reed to hang expectations.

(06-29-2022 12:22 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(06-29-2022 12:08 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(06-29-2022 11:36 AM)UTSA_Alum Wrote:  

(06-29-2022 11:30 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  Perception is not reality. Reality lags perception. The reality is - unless improvement occurs - the MWC will likely leapfrog the AAC and the AAC neck and neck with the SBC.

The reality is the AAC took Tulsa and Tulane and somehow got the P6 thing to stick in 10 short years. The AAC has proven they are a well run organization, and I am willing to stake my reputation(worth nothing on internet forums) on the AAC being the pack leader again in 10 years.

FB Massey Composite Index
Average Ranking 2019, 2020, 2021
Tulane..........75
Tulsa............60

Charlotte.....104
FAU..............74
NTU............109
Rice............109
UAB..............61
UTSA............79

None of the CUSA refugees exceeded the performance of the school you maligned - Tulsa. Only two of the six CUSA refugees exceeded Tulane. The reality is the additions (save UAB) are terrible to mediocre on the field.

Ten years is a long, long time and massive improvement will be required by the additions to even meet that distant goal. A change in conference alone will not suffice. Sustained and material investments are required.

Do we need to drop in the Massey composites of our 4 "very good" teams from when they were in CUSA pre-AAC?

Do as you wish, but I do not think it is relevant.

(06-29-2022 12:42 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(06-29-2022 12:24 PM)goodknightfl Wrote:  

(06-29-2022 11:30 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  Perception is not reality. Reality lags perception. The reality is - unless improvement occurs - the MWC will likely leapfrog the AAC and the AAC neck and neck with the SBC.

Agree MWC will temporarily jump AAC, (not by much) but that will be a temp jump. Sunbelt took best still available after AAC got who they wanted. To act like they are now neck and neck is ridiculous. The leftover 8 of AAC will get 3 to 4 times the $$ and better TV slots than the Belt.

Massey Composite Index
Average 2019, 2020, 2021 Seasons

New AAC....81
New SBC....82

The issue with the Massey Composite Index is that it has nothing to do with conference perception outside of message board discussions with fellow G5 fans. Do you really think that the average CFB fan even looks at Massey?

The perception of the AAC as being above the other G5's has been it's success in getting to NY6 games (6 of 8 years under CFP - including Cincy making the CFP, plus UCF under BCS the year before) and winning them (2 of 3 wins, plus UCF's win the year before). Add to that Cincy being the first team to reach the CFP.

It simply will not matter if SBC beats the AAC in Massey moving forward if the AAC is still able to dominate entry into the NY6/CFP games.

(06-29-2022 12:51 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(06-29-2022 12:22 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(06-29-2022 12:08 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(06-29-2022 11:36 AM)UTSA_Alum Wrote:  

(06-29-2022 11:30 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  Perception is not reality. Reality lags perception. The reality is - unless improvement occurs - the MWC will likely leapfrog the AAC and the AAC neck and neck with the SBC.

The reality is the AAC took Tulsa and Tulane and somehow got the P6 thing to stick in 10 short years. The AAC has proven they are a well run organization, and I am willing to stake my reputation(worth nothing on internet forums) on the AAC being the pack leader again in 10 years.

FB Massey Composite Index
Average Ranking 2019, 2020, 2021
Tulane..........75
Tulsa............60

Charlotte.....104
FAU..............74
NTU............109
Rice............109
UAB..............61
UTSA............79

None of the CUSA refugees exceeded the performance of the school you maligned - Tulsa. Only two of the six CUSA refugees exceeded Tulane. The reality is the additions (save UAB) are terrible to mediocre on the field.

Ten years is a long, long time and massive improvement will be required by the additions to even meet that distant goal. A change in conference alone will not suffice. Sustained and material investments are required.

Do we need to drop in the Massey composites of our 4 "very good" teams from when they were in CUSA pre-AAC?

Do as you wish, but I do not think it is relevant.

Really? What was Memphis average massey before and after joining the AAC?

(06-29-2022 12:24 PM)goodknightfl Wrote:  

(06-29-2022 11:30 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  Perception is not reality. Reality lags perception. The reality is - unless improvement occurs - the MWC will likely leapfrog the AAC and the AAC neck and neck with the SBC.

Agree MWC will temporarily jump AAC, (not by much) but that will be a temp jump. Sunbelt took best still available after AAC got who they wanted. To act like they are now neck and neck is ridiculous. The leftover 8 of AAC will get 3 to 4 times the $$ and better TV slots than the Belt.

Right up until football season.

(06-29-2022 01:29 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(06-29-2022 12:51 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(06-29-2022 12:22 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(06-29-2022 12:08 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(06-29-2022 11:36 AM)UTSA_Alum Wrote:  The reality is the AAC took Tulsa and Tulane and somehow got the P6 thing to stick in 10 short years. The AAC has proven they are a well run organization, and I am willing to stake my reputation(worth nothing on internet forums) on the AAC being the pack leader again in 10 years.

FB Massey Composite Index
Average Ranking 2019, 2020, 2021
Tulane..........75
Tulsa............60

Charlotte.....104
FAU..............74
NTU............109
Rice............109
UAB..............61
UTSA............79

None of the CUSA refugees exceeded the performance of the school you maligned - Tulsa. Only two of the six CUSA refugees exceeded Tulane. The reality is the additions (save UAB) are terrible to mediocre on the field.

Ten years is a long, long time and massive improvement will be required by the additions to even meet that distant goal. A change in conference alone will not suffice. Sustained and material investments are required.

Do we need to drop in the Massey composites of our 4 "very good" teams from when they were in CUSA pre-AAC?

Do as you wish, but I do not think it is relevant.

Really? What was Memphis average massey before and after joining the AAC?

I do not know. Feel free to look it up.