(05-24-2022 01:10 PM)BCSvsBS Wrote: I believe we will ultimately have "4" (20) Team Conferences in their own new Division. The Super Division. Those four conferences will be,
The B1G, The SEC, The PAC and The Big XX conference.
( That's right, the ACC gets devoured by the SEC, B1G and Big XX. )
The B1G takes,
1, Boston College
2, Syracuse University
3, University of Pittsburg
4, University of Virginia
5, North Carolina University
6, Georgia Technical University.
The SEC takes,
1, Viginia Technical University
2, North Carolina State University
3, Clemson University
4, Ubiversity of South Florida
The Big XX (Formerly Big XII) takes,
1, Florida State University
2, University of Miami
3, Duke University
4, University of Louiseville
5, University of Wake Forrest
6, University of Memphis
7, University of Tulane or SMU
8, Colorado State University
That's your 3 eastern powers.
The PAC takes,
1, San Diego State University
2, Boise State University
3, University of Los Vegas
4, University of Nevada
5, Utah State University
6, University of New Mwxico
7, University of Wyoming or The Air Forse Academy
8, University of Hawii
That is your last Power Conference. They would play exclusively amoung themselves for Media maximisation of league value. They would hold their own National Championship Playoffs.
so USF just skips the line and goes straight to the best conference huh? FSU and Miami looking like
(05-24-2022 01:10 PM)BCSvsBS Wrote: I believe we will ultimately have "4" (20) Team Conferences in their own new Division. The Super Division. Those four conferences will be,
The B1G, The SEC, The PAC and The Big XX conference.
( That's right, the ACC gets devoured by the SEC, B1G and Big XX. )
The B1G takes,
1, Boston College
2, Syracuse University
3, University of Pittsburg
4, University of Virginia
5, North Carolina University
6, Georgia Technical University.
The SEC takes,
1, Viginia Technical University
2, North Carolina State University
3, Clemson University
4, Ubiversity of South Florida
The Big XX (Formerly Big XII) takes,
1, Florida State University
2, University of Miami
3, Duke University
4, University of Louiseville
5, University of Wake Forrest
6, University of Memphis
7, University of Tulane or SMU
8, Colorado State University
That's your 3 eastern powers.
The PAC takes,
1, San Diego State University
2, Boise State University
3, University of Los Vegas
4, University of Nevada
5, Utah State University
6, University of New Mwxico
7, University of Wyoming or The Air Forse Academy
8, University of Hawii
That is your last Power Conference. They would play exclusively amoung themselves for Media maximisation of league value. They would hold their own National Championship Playoffs.
Man...that is some...epic...uh...creative...spelling...right there.
(05-24-2022 01:10 PM)BCSvsBS Wrote: I believe we will ultimately have "4" (20) Team Conferences in their own new Division. The Super Division. Those four conferences will be,
The B1G, The SEC, The PAC and The Big XX conference.
( That's right, the ACC gets devoured by the SEC, B1G and Big XX. )
The B1G takes,
1, Boston College
2, Syracuse University
3, University of Pittsburg
4, University of Virginia
5, North Carolina University
6, Georgia Technical University.
The SEC takes,
1, Viginia Technical University
2, North Carolina State University
3, Clemson University
4, Ubiversity of South Florida
The Big XX (Formerly Big XII) takes,
1, Florida State University
2, University of Miami
3, Duke University
4, University of Louiseville
5, University of Wake Forrest
6, University of Memphis
7, University of Tulane or SMU
8, Colorado State University
That's your 3 eastern powers.
The PAC takes,
1, San Diego State University
2, Boise State University
3, University of Los Vegas
4, University of Nevada
5, Utah State University
6, University of New Mwxico
7, University of Wyoming or The Air Forse Academy
8, University of Hawii
That is your last Power Conference. They would play exclusively amoung themselves for Media maximisation of league value. They would hold their own National Championship Playoffs.
Very simple... this is to scare the non-Ohio State's, Michigan's, etc., that they could have their own championship which would then cause the top schools left out there (OSU, Michigan, USC, etc.) to join the SEC. It will break up the rest of the conferences.
(05-25-2022 07:19 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote: This is just posturing. The split is happening. New FCS type division for most of the G5.
But not all of it. Those G5s who want to go and pay the freight will likely be allowed to go, to prevent any legal backlash.
And lately, there has been some talk about splitting off all FBS, and possibly including basketball. I've read a couple of articles about it in the last couple of weeks.
(05-23-2022 10:46 PM)JHS55 Wrote: YES please let this happen… so the rest of college football can just have their own playoffs
If the SEC actually does do this how many teams will join them ?
It will be interesting to see this play out
Let them have their 24 or 32 teams and watch them claim a national title
It’s just that it won’t be a national title because 98 other teams won’t just go away, they will form together and have real games and playoffs WITH OUT A FRICKIN SELECTION COMMITTEE…
Good - the SEC is not college football anyway. It is the Jr. NFL, lets be honest, they have been paying the players massive amounts for years.
The split will be good. There is a lot of good product possibilities for the leftovers culminating into a playoff system that is both marketable and determined on the field. The growth opportunity is tremendous and can be administrated better with like minded institutions. What we have now is a mess driven by self interest where a common sense CFP can't even be agreed upon.
(05-26-2022 09:01 AM)Pirate Rep Wrote: The split will be good. There is a lot of good product possibilities for the leftovers culminating into a playoff system that is both marketable and determined on the field. The growth opportunity is tremendous and can be administrated better with like minded institutions. What we have now is a mess driven by self interest where a common sense CFP can't even be agreed upon.
Disagree. If a true split occurs the G5's who aren't allowed and/or able to make the cut will be even more irrelevant than they are now.
(05-26-2022 09:01 AM)Pirate Rep Wrote: The split will be good. There is a lot of good product possibilities for the leftovers culminating into a playoff system that is both marketable and determined on the field. The growth opportunity is tremendous and can be administrated better with like minded institutions. What we have now is a mess driven by self interest where a common sense CFP can't even be agreed upon.
Disagree. If a true split occurs the G5's who aren't allowed and/or able to make the cut will be even more irrelevant than they are now.
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On a revenue basis there already is a split of the P5 and only approximately 40 schools can attract those dollars. That industry needs to consolidate. Then the other 80 schools can reorganize and it will be attractive. It will grow. A lot of consumers are growing weary of the SEC bashing every ones head in because of their historical, geographical, and revenue advantage.
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(05-25-2022 07:19 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote: This is just posturing. The split is happening. New FCS type division for most of the G5.
But not all of it. Those G5s who want to go and pay the freight will likely be allowed to go, to prevent any legal backlash.
And lately, there has been some talk about splitting off all FBS, and possibly including basketball. I've read a couple of articles about it in the last couple of weeks.
I admit I was surprised to see the split line being discussed for the FBS and not P4 but I think you're on it. Legally they face too many hurdles and practically none of the conferences want to become the new, defacto G5 where other conferences go to gather wins.
This is, of course, IF the Power2/professional model does not come to pass. In that case 40 or so schools become a pro league and the rest will chart a new course.
(05-25-2022 07:19 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote: This is just posturing. The split is happening. New FCS type division for most of the G5.
But not all of it. Those G5s who want to go and pay the freight will likely be allowed to go, to prevent any legal backlash.
And lately, there has been some talk about splitting off all FBS, and possibly including basketball. I've read a couple of articles about it in the last couple of weeks.
I admit I was surprised to see the split line being discussed for the FBS and not P4 but I think you're on it. Legally they face too many hurdles and practically none of the conferences want to become the new, defacto G5 where other conferences go to gather wins.
This is, of course, IF the Power2/professional model does not come to pass. In that case 40 or so schools become a pro league and the rest will chart a new course.
Agree. That's another possibility. Amazon execs talked about that openly a couple of years ago. I think that is more likely, b/c the top schools are so greedy.
That's the only plausible reason for OU and UT splitting for the SEC. Money. They would have a better chance of making any size playoff if they remained in the Big 12. Obviously, money overrides potential championships.
Just from one fans POV: I watched only one game of the cfb playoffs this past year, the UC game. OTOH, I watched several of the lower bowl games, primarily ones with future American members. If a split happens and Temple is on the outside, I will follow the lower tier, not the higher one. I believe that ESPN desperately wants to create an NFL style cfb league, that’s great, but this fan and many others I speak with are not interested. I also believe ESPN will try this with college hoops, to the detriment of that sport.
The biggest schools in each conference are not going to agree to this if they have to give up home games to make this happen. Many bluebloods play all of their OOC games at home, plus their in conference schedule, that's 9-10 home games a year? If you're only playing other P5 schools, you would probably get 6 home games in a 12 game schedule before the playoff. How much $$ is a school like Clemson or OSU giving up to join the SEC playoff group?
(05-29-2022 11:13 AM)vick mike Wrote: Just from one fans POV: I watched only one game of the cfb playoffs this past year, the UC game. OTOH, I watched several of the lower bowl games, primarily ones with future American members. If a split happens and Temple is on the outside, I will follow the lower tier, not the higher one. I believe that ESPN desperately wants to create an NFL style cfb league, that’s great, but this fan and many others I speak with are not interested. I also believe ESPN will try this with college hoops, to the detriment of that sport.
That's a mistake by ESPN because college is way different than NFL. Interest is more consolidated in the NFL while college is based upon alumni following along with regional support. They aren't national brands.
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This would end like the European Super League. They need us and we need them. The illusion of the chance at a shot at the championship is what keeps this whole thing from crumbling.
