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UMES at ODU on November 7th. ECU at ODU on November 26th. W&M at ODU on Dec. 7th.

2022-2023 OOC:
November 7th - v. University of Maryland-Eastern Shore - $70,000 guarantee
November 11th - @ Drexel
November 17th - Charleston Classic
November 18th - Charleston Classic
November 20th - Charleston Classic
November 26th - v. East Carolina (2nd year of H/H)
November 29th - @ Charleston
December 3rd - v. Norfolk State
December 7th - v. William and Mary
December 10th - v. Gardner Webb
v. George Mason (H/H)

Future Years:
2023 - William and Mary, Drexel
2024 - William and Mary
2025 - William and Mary

Ugh. That schedule looks worse and worse by the week.

(07-07-2022 02:15 PM)MonarchManiac Wrote:  Ugh. That schedule looks worse and worse by the week.

When George Mason is the highlight of your home basketball schedule, you might be a football school.

(07-07-2022 02:48 PM)ODUBB35 Wrote:  

(07-07-2022 02:15 PM)MonarchManiac Wrote:  Ugh. That schedule looks worse and worse by the week.

When George Mason is the highlight of your home basketball schedule, you might be a football school.

To me Norfolk State is the highlight. Should play them every year, Imo. Would try and get rid of the UMES type schools, low rated and out of town and play both Norfolk State and Hampton every year. If that’s not possible try for Navy or Army and have some kind of military appreciation night or whatnot.

(07-07-2022 03:25 PM)mac Wrote:  

(07-07-2022 02:48 PM)ODUBB35 Wrote:  

(07-07-2022 02:15 PM)MonarchManiac Wrote:  Ugh. That schedule looks worse and worse by the week.

When George Mason is the highlight of your home basketball schedule, you might be a football school.

To me Norfolk State is the highlight. Should play them every year, Imo. Would try and get rid of the UMES type schools, low rated and out of town and play both Norfolk State and Hampton every year. If that’s not possible try for Navy or Army and have some kind of military appreciation night or whatnot.

If that is supposed to make me feel better, it failed.

(07-07-2022 03:27 PM)ODUBB35 Wrote:  

(07-07-2022 03:25 PM)mac Wrote:  

(07-07-2022 02:48 PM)ODUBB35 Wrote:  

(07-07-2022 02:15 PM)MonarchManiac Wrote:  Ugh. That schedule looks worse and worse by the week.

When George Mason is the highlight of your home basketball schedule, you might be a football school.

To me Norfolk State is the highlight. Should play them every year, Imo. Would try and get rid of the UMES type schools, low rated and out of town and play both Norfolk State and Hampton every year. If that’s not possible try for Navy or Army and have some kind of military appreciation night or whatnot.

If that is supposed to make me feel better, it failed.

Nothing to do with you brother!

The school has said they can’t get any big name team to come here. Or even play us at there place for that matter. Might as well play the local teams and create some local excitement. Hence my post.

Mason, don’t care. Not the same since Larranaga left anyway. Seems the powers that he can’t get anyone worthwhile to play us, I say play the local D1 squads.

If our AD can't get anyone decent to come here any more, you've gotta play someone. I see Mac's point. I don't like it. This is probably our worst home schedule on record. But it is what it is. If UVA, VT, VCU, UR and GMU are going to duck us, that doesn't leave too much left. Especially if the A10 teams like St. Joes and GW are out too. Maybe play the old CAA teams. Im fine seeing Drexel again and WM. ECU is always interesting and a former CAA foe too. Maybe get Delaware, Towson, UNCW. Throw in UNCG or Charlotte and it wouldn't be too bad I guess. Its really just playing UMES and Gardner Webb that bugs. Crazy to think of some of the teams Ive seen come through Norfolk and this is now what its come to.

Heard that Virginia Wesleyan and Christopher Newport have decided that playing us no longer fits their profiles...

(07-07-2022 09:02 PM)The Doctor Is In Wrote:  Heard that Virginia Wesleyan and Christopher Newport have decided that playing us no longer fits their profiles...

Sad state of affairs. Don’t know why we ever played Va Wes and then Jones made them sound like the Celtics. If that’s all you can get, instead of Wes or UMES get Radford or VMI or Longwood or ?, add Hampton and Norfolk State and start the season with a two day kick off called “Norfolk classic ” , or whatever. At least that’s better than playing UMES and the like.

What a mess.

What a mess is right. I passed on season tix this year even before the schedule started coming out. Looks more and more like a good decision. I'll buy single game tix for the handful of interesting games, but no way am I going to watch UMES..
Part of the reason good schools won't play us is because we have stunk the joint up in recent years. If we were a higher rated mid we wouldn't be having so much trouble scheduling.

I guess I am in the minority... having read the basketball schedule complaint thread year after year...

What I believe - it is virtually impossible to create a non-conference schedule that can get you an at-large berth for a school like odu in their position. the conference that you are in has to help get you there. CUSA wasn't good enough at the bottom. the CAA was for a couple of years but wasn't for most years and isn't now. and the sun belt isn't either...

so in my opinion, the non-conference should be about preparing for conference play. it should be about developing depth on your team (something Coach Jones is lousy at in my opinion).

in preparing for conference play, why wouldn't you schedule with whoever games on thursday and saturday to simulate what to expect in league play as far as preparation goes, travel goes, etc...

in developing depth, if that means scheduling UMES and a couple of other games like that, then so be it. I don't go to games because of the opponent. I go to watch odu to see how players develop and hopefully succeed.

i agree with the comments about playing other local schools like nsu and hampton. games like that should be some kind of atmosphere that should simulate the pressure of a conference game.

I believe there should be a mixture. Obviously tough to do bc of the A10 decision, but have a local cupcake or 2 and then a couple legit mid major types. Throw in a buy game and a tourney.

Its wayyyy more difficult than people realize but that is my ideal schedule.

UCLA is opening with Norfolk State, Delaware just got a game at Duke, Purdue Fort Wayne is at Michigan, Radford is at Marquette and at Notre Dame. There is a disconnect in the athlete department about what this program is currently.

Here are the marquee OOC games for each member of the Sun Belt as of now:

App State - @ Louisville
Arkansas State - @ LSU
Coastal Carolina - @ South Carolina
Georgia Southern - Western Michigan (neutral site)
Georgia State - @ Auburn
JMU - @ North Carolina
Louisiana - Louisiana Tech (only two games announced so far)
Marshall - @ UNCG
ODU - v. George Mason
South Alabama - v. Alabama
Southern Miss - @ Georgia Tech
Texas State @ Washington State
Troy @ Florida State
UL-Monroe @ Texas A&M

Other schools have figured out how to get power 5 schools on the schedule year over year. It's time for this program to get with it

(07-08-2022 11:32 AM)Old Dom Swag Wrote:  UCLA is opening with Norfolk State, Delaware just got a game at Duke, Purdue Fort Wayne is at Michigan, Radford is at Marquette and at Notre Dame. There is a disconnect in the athlete department about what this program is currently.

Here are the marquee OOC games for each member of the Sun Belt as of now:

App State - @ Louisville
Arkansas State - @ LSU
Coastal Carolina - @ South Carolina
Georgia Southern - Western Michigan (neutral site)
Georgia State - @ Auburn
JMU - @ North Carolina
Louisiana - Louisiana Tech (only two games announced so far)
Marshall - @ UNCG
ODU - v. George Mason
South Alabama - v. Alabama
Southern Miss - @ Georgia Tech
Texas State @ Washington State
Troy @ Florida State
UL-Monroe @ Texas A&M

Other schools have figured out how to get power 5 schools on the schedule year over year. It's time for this program to get with it

It all reminds me of that old saying - Where there's a will, there's a way. At this point at least, Old Dominion seems to have lost their will as far as creating a tough, challenging, and exciting schedule goes.

In spite of what some others might want you to believe, no, it really isn't that difficult to get a few P5 schools - or other typically strong basketball schools - on the schedule from year to year. Examples that show this to be the case are listed in the post above as well as in most of ODU's past schedules.

(07-08-2022 10:37 AM)backcourt Wrote:  I guess I am in the minority... having read the basketball schedule complaint thread year after year...

What I believe - it is virtually impossible to create a non-conference schedule that can get you an at-large berth for a school like odu in their position. the conference that you are in has to help get you there. CUSA wasn't good enough at the bottom. the CAA was for a couple of years but wasn't for most years and isn't now. and the sun belt isn't either...

so in my opinion, the non-conference should be about preparing for conference play. it should be about developing depth on your team (something Coach Jones is lousy at in my opinion).

in preparing for conference play, why wouldn't you schedule with whoever games on thursday and saturday to simulate what to expect in league play as far as preparation goes, travel goes, etc...

in developing depth, if that means scheduling UMES and a couple of other games like that, then so be it. I don't go to games because of the opponent. I go to watch odu to see how players develop and hopefully succeed.

i agree with the comments about playing other local schools like nsu and hampton. games like that should be some kind of atmosphere that should simulate the pressure of a conference game.

One has to put together a good enough team to win on the road against schools like NC State, MD, Georgetown, Davidson, VCU, etc. If you schedule a few of those schools and defeat them - especially on the road - you are (A) going to have a good NET rating, and (B) ODU will be good enough to likely dominate their CUSA or SB conference. The end result will be a good NET rating, good OOC wins, and a strong overall record. That should get ODU in the conversation for an at large bid if they stumbled in the conference tournament.

Two things they can't do to get there is (A) don't give themselves any chance for an at large bid by creating a horribly weak schedule, and (B) expect to ever get there via the conference tournament with a poorly performing basketball team such as we have witnessed recently.

(07-08-2022 11:32 AM)Old Dom Swag Wrote:  UCLA is opening with Norfolk State, Delaware just got a game at Duke, Purdue Fort Wayne is at Michigan, Radford is at Marquette and at Notre Dame. There is a disconnect in the athlete department about what this program is currently.

Here are the marquee OOC games for each member of the Sun Belt as of now:

App State - @ Louisville
Arkansas State - @ LSU
Coastal Carolina - @ South Carolina
Georgia Southern - Western Michigan (neutral site)
Georgia State - @ Auburn
JMU - @ North Carolina
Louisiana - Louisiana Tech (only two games announced so far)
Marshall - @ UNCG
ODU - v. George Mason
South Alabama - v. Alabama
Southern Miss - @ Georgia Tech
Texas State @ Washington State
Troy @ Florida State
UL-Monroe @ Texas A&M

Other schools have figured out how to get power 5 schools on the schedule year over year. It's time for this program to get with it

Thanks for this post Swag. The ODU folks just can't get it done, for whatever reason.

(07-08-2022 12:53 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(07-08-2022 10:37 AM)backcourt Wrote:  I guess I am in the minority... having read the basketball schedule complaint thread year after year...

What I believe - it is virtually impossible to create a non-conference schedule that can get you an at-large berth for a school like odu in their position. the conference that you are in has to help get you there. CUSA wasn't good enough at the bottom. the CAA was for a couple of years but wasn't for most years and isn't now. and the sun belt isn't either...

so in my opinion, the non-conference should be about preparing for conference play. it should be about developing depth on your team (something Coach Jones is lousy at in my opinion).

in preparing for conference play, why wouldn't you schedule with whoever games on thursday and saturday to simulate what to expect in league play as far as preparation goes, travel goes, etc...

in developing depth, if that means scheduling UMES and a couple of other games like that, then so be it. I don't go to games because of the opponent. I go to watch odu to see how players develop and hopefully succeed.

i agree with the comments about playing other local schools like nsu and hampton. games like that should be some kind of atmosphere that should simulate the pressure of a conference game.

One has to put together a good enough team to win on the road against schools like NC State, MD, Georgetown, Davidson, VCU, etc. If you schedule a few of those schools and defeat them - especially on the road - you are (A) going to have a good NET rating, and (B) ODU will be good enough to likely dominate their CUSA or SB conference. The end result will be a good NET rating, good OOC wins, and a strong overall record. That should get ODU in the conversation for an at large bid if they stumbled in the conference tournament.

Two things they can't do to get there is (A) don't give themselves any chance for an at large bid by creating a horribly weak schedule, and (B) expect to ever get there via the conference tournament with a poorly performing basketball team such as we have witnessed recently.

It would also be nice to get something other than a 16 seed should we overcome (B).

I mean, there is weak, then there is "Norfolk State is the highlight of your schedule" weak. Hopefully, the schedule has a few surprises when it comes out.

(07-08-2022 12:58 PM)mac Wrote:  

(07-08-2022 11:32 AM)Old Dom Swag Wrote:  UCLA is opening with Norfolk State, Delaware just got a game at Duke, Purdue Fort Wayne is at Michigan, Radford is at Marquette and at Notre Dame. There is a disconnect in the athlete department about what this program is currently.

Here are the marquee OOC games for each member of the Sun Belt as of now:

App State - @ Louisville
Arkansas State - @ LSU
Coastal Carolina - @ South Carolina
Georgia Southern - Western Michigan (neutral site)
Georgia State - @ Auburn
JMU - @ North Carolina
Louisiana - Louisiana Tech (only two games announced so far)
Marshall - @ UNCG
ODU - v. George Mason
South Alabama - v. Alabama
Southern Miss - @ Georgia Tech
Texas State @ Washington State
Troy @ Florida State
UL-Monroe @ Texas A&M

Other schools have figured out how to get power 5 schools on the schedule year over year. It's time for this program to get with it

Thanks for this post Swag. The ODU folks just can't get it done, for whatever reason.

It’s this mentality that was acceptable a decade ago or more when we were able to get home and home and 2 for 1 deals. Those opportunities are no longer there because everyone is taking pay games. So with that said we should as well. I suggest we change our philosophy to actively seek 3 or 4 pay games and an exempt tourney each year. Then surround them with whatever home games you can get (UMES, Longwood)….. whatever regional home and homes you can get. Bottom line is you need a battle tested team if you are going to “run through” your conference nowadays and you have to dominate your conference to have a chance year in and year out.


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(07-08-2022 11:32 AM)Old Dom Swag Wrote:  UCLA is opening with Norfolk State, Delaware just got a game at Duke, Purdue Fort Wayne is at Michigan, Radford is at Marquette and at Notre Dame. There is a disconnect in the athlete department about what this program is currently.

Here are the marquee OOC games for each member of the Sun Belt as of now:

App State - @ Louisville
Arkansas State - @ LSU
Coastal Carolina - @ South Carolina
Georgia Southern - Western Michigan (neutral site)
Georgia State - @ Auburn
JMU - @ North Carolina
Louisiana - Louisiana Tech (only two games announced so far)
Marshall - @ UNCG
ODU - v. George Mason
South Alabama - v. Alabama
Southern Miss - @ Georgia Tech
Texas State @ Washington State
Troy @ Florida State
UL-Monroe @ Texas A&M

Other schools have figured out how to get power 5 schools on the schedule year over year. It's time for this program to get with it

JMU also playing at Virginia