(04-17-2022 09:31 AM)mikeinsec127 Wrote:  

(04-16-2022 07:43 PM)AssKickingChicken Wrote:  How is a college team going to move?

It would be a daunting task to move an entire campus nowadays, but plenty of universities have relocated before. I could see a city offering a stadium or arena deal as part of a "satellite" campus. Think about Villanova not being able to build on its main campus, but getting an offer from Chester, Pa to build all its sports infrastructure next to the MLS soccer stadium.

It seems the OP's comment about a college "moving" was more in line with "moving its affiliation" in some manner rather than a physical move of the campus.

(04-17-2022 09:31 AM)mikeinsec127 Wrote:  

(04-16-2022 07:43 PM)AssKickingChicken Wrote:  How is a college team going to move?

It would be a daunting task to move an entire campus nowadays, but plenty of universities have relocated before. I could see a city offering a stadium or arena deal as part of a "satellite" campus. Think about Villanova not being able to build on its main campus, but getting an offer from Chester, Pa to build all its sports infrastructure next to the MLS soccer stadium.

It seems the OP's comment about a college "moving" was more in line with "moving its affiliation" in some manner rather than a physical move of the campus.

Yeah, I meant (and assumed this was clear) that the athletes could get traded and/or the teams could move. And I’d FULLY assume no-traded clauses would be common.

(04-18-2022 09:27 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  I don’t understand why many fans don’t get that just because a college might be paying a player doesn’t mean that the player is now suddenly an indentured servant. Plus, even if a school *could* trade a player, I think top programs would very quickly offer no-trade clauses to get a competitive advantage. The reality is that at least in football and men’s basketball, the top talent have the upper hand with a lot more prospective bidders than available top players. When demand outstrips supply, the parties with the supply (in this case the players) have outsized negotiating power.

This. How many teams were bidding to get (pay) Zion Williamson before he signed with Duke? An adidas rep was recorded on an FBI wiretap apologizing to the Kansas coach because he got outbid in trying to get DeAndre Ayton to Kansas. The elite players wouldn't ever have to agree to terms that allow a coach to get mad and trade them to Duquesne or Idaho State or wherever.

(04-16-2022 07:16 PM)Erictelevision Wrote:  Once the players are treated like professional players, will teams be allowed to move? Will players get traded (NOT transfer)

No, they will still be student-athletes. Less than 2% of college football players make it to the NFL. There is value in obtaining an education and a degree. College football is not going to become professional football, so student-athletes will not get traded. Whatever money these kids can get at the college level is good but that will not make them pros. They are student-athletes.

(04-18-2022 04:15 PM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  

(04-16-2022 07:16 PM)Erictelevision Wrote:  Once the players are treated like professional players, will teams be allowed to move? Will players get traded (NOT transfer)

No, they will still be student-athletes. Less than 2% of college football players make it to the NFL. There is value in obtaining an education and a degree. College football is not going to become professional football, so student-athletes will not get traded. Whatever money these kids can get at the college level is good but that will not make them pros. They are student-athletes.

I think it’s ADORABLE you think these players are self aware enough to GAF about their education. And there’s a word for coaches and ADs who do care: fired.

(04-18-2022 04:19 PM)Erictelevision Wrote:  

(04-18-2022 04:15 PM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  

(04-16-2022 07:16 PM)Erictelevision Wrote:  Once the players are treated like professional players, will teams be allowed to move? Will players get traded (NOT transfer)

No, they will still be student-athletes. Less than 2% of college football players make it to the NFL. There is value in obtaining an education and a degree. College football is not going to become professional football, so student-athletes will not get traded. Whatever money these kids can get at the college level is good but that will not make them pros. They are student-athletes.

I think it’s ADORABLE you think these players are self aware enough to GAF about their education. And there’s a word for coaches and ADs who do care: fired.

Like I said, less than 2% make to the NFL. I think you would be surprised as to how many players, parents, and coaches do feel an education is important. The NFL does as well. It is really difficult to make an NFL roster and if you are dumb and undisciplined. You can be educated and be a good NFL player. Those two goals are not mutually exclusive.

If the players and their moms actually cared about getting a true education, the UNC scandal wouldn’t have happened AND graduation rates would be 90% not 25%.

Is there anything stopping the team from "moving" now. Didn't a team in the PAC literally move during the covid year? Didn't someone pack up their athletes to Arizona and play in a different stadium lol.

The reason you won't see it then and we don't see it now (without wild circumstances like covid) doesn't change if the athletes are paid. This is a silly thread and I can't believe it's been alive for this long.

Edit: I can't find anything about a pac team moving to Arizona to play during covid, but I swear that was a rumor at some point lol.

(04-19-2022 03:05 PM)Erictelevision Wrote:  If the players and their moms actually cared about getting a true education, the UNC scandal wouldn’t have happened AND graduation rates would be 90% not 25%.

https://goheels.com/news/2021/12/2/acade...on%20rate.

Graduation Success Rates for University of North Carolina student-athletes over the past four years remained at 88 percent, the second consecutive year the Tar Heels recorded their highest-ever four-year graduation rate.

That doesn’t mean anything! They probably are better at hiding the BS classes.

(04-19-2022 03:05 PM)Erictelevision Wrote:  If the players and their moms actually cared about getting a true education, the UNC scandal wouldn’t have happened AND graduation rates would be 90% not 25%.

The graduation rate is 90% for D1 athletes

https://www.ncaa.org/news/2020/11/17/di-...-rate.aspx

Football was 80% for FBS and 81% for FCS, and 87% for basketball

(04-16-2022 07:43 PM)AssKickingChicken Wrote:  How is a college team going to move?

U-Haul trucks and online classes. The question is will another state be willing to host them?

(04-16-2022 08:43 PM)ken d Wrote:  

(04-16-2022 07:43 PM)AssKickingChicken Wrote:  How is a college team going to move?

Yeah, it's kind of hard to imagine Nebraska relocating to a state with a better recruiting base and more population from which to draw fans.

Sure, it would be hard, but it wouldn't be impossible. "The University of Nebraska" might want to rename itself before moving to another State, or to move their football program to a satellite campus in a different U.S. state, for recruiting reasons.

They could, for example, relocate the U. Nebraska football program to a new satellite campus in the Houston or Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX areas, to tap into the rich recruiting grounds there. They could play a couple of home games there and a few others at the main campus stadium in Lincoln, NB. It would be weird, but they could do it.

Alternately, since Pennsylvania has two schools named "Indiana University of Pennsylvania" and "California University of Pennsylvania," they would also have the option to charter/build a new town in PA, name it "Nebraska," and rename themselves "Nebraska University of Pennsylvania."

The fans back home wouldn't be too happy about it, and they would lose all of their state funding, but they could rename their university and move it - - lock, stock and barrel if they wanted to badly enough...

If it ever happens, then I’ll be done with sports for good. I’m halfway there already.

(04-16-2022 07:39 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  No, colleges can’t trade either students or employees.

Common sense.

Because the students and employees are there for an education or make a living! Playing a game is neither!