I see a solution and think it should be done. First MegaSuper Conference with ESPN dissing PAC-12 and Big-12(18/20) for more money for this aac/mw merged conference, SEC and ACC instead of wasting time and money on PAC-12 and Big-12(18).

ESPN also teams up with Turner Sports on AAC content, NCAAT and CFP (8 or 12 teams).

ESPN gets same amount of content concerning BigTen, but, let’s Fox/NBC blow their wad on B1G tier 1….plays hardball but headfakes and let’s nbc, Fox and cbs take Pac12 and Big12….then, with the savings….rewards AAC/MW merger, SEC and ACC…grabs CFP with Turner….then later, grabs NCAAT with Turner.

Some AAC games also on Turner (TNT, TBS, TruTV).

Merger has to happen as ESPN says depleted MW and AAC, on their own, not worthy of much north of sunbelt tv revenue but an AAC coast-to-coast would get bank (relatively for them, anyway).

(04-23-2022 09:15 PM)Fresno Fanatic Wrote:  I see a solution and think it should be done. First MegaSuper Conference with ESPN dissing PAC-12 and Big-12(18/20) for more money for this aac/mw merged conference, SEC and ACC instead of wasting time and money on PAC-12 and Big-12(18).

Are the remainders enough to garner a media deal worth the travel? I'd say it's more likely that each backfill from their own regions.


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(04-23-2022 09:18 PM)freshtop Wrote:  

(04-23-2022 09:15 PM)Fresno Fanatic Wrote:  I see a solution and think it should be done. First MegaSuper Conference with ESPN dissing PAC-12 and Big-12(18/20) for more money for this aac/mw merged conference, SEC and ACC instead of wasting time and money on PAC-12 and Big-12(18).

Are the remainders enough to garner a media deal worth the travel? I'd say it's more likely that each backfill from their own regions.


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There wouldn’t be much travel. One cross division football game per season and MAYBE and inter-division bracket busters (but called: “AAC bracket builders”) in MBK. All oly sports stay within divisions.

WKU would probably end up in the SBC after my scenario, as AAC-Mega would grab ODU (Norfolk), J Madison (it’s JMad!) and Georgia St (Atlanta) from SBC.

So this thread starts off with a one-in-a-million-odds presumption (Big 12 adding Boise, CSU, SDSU, USF, Memphis, SMU, Gonzaga, & Saint Louis), and then piggybacks on that with another almost-one-in-a-million odds conspiracy (ESPN letting go of B1G, PAC, & XII for this merged AAC/MWC leftover conference that conveniently hits the jackpot for OP’s team, Fresno St).

(04-23-2022 09:52 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  So this thread starts off with a one-in-a-million-odds presumption (Big 12 adding Boise, CSU, SDSU, USF, Memphis, SMU, Gonzaga, & Saint Louis), and then piggybacks on that with another almost-one-in-a-million odds conspiracy (ESPN letting go of B1G, PAC, & XII for this merged AAC/MWC leftover conference that conveniently hits the jackpot for OP’s team, Fresno St).

SLU has made 6 NCAA tournaments in the 2000s. Why would the Big 12 add them exactly? Having KU and KSU are probably more popular in St Louis, than SLU is.

(04-23-2022 09:52 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  So this thread starts off with a one-in-a-million-odds presumption (Big 12 adding Boise, CSU, SDSU, USF, Memphis, SMU, Gonzaga, & Saint Louis), and then piggybacks on that with another almost-one-in-a-million odds conspiracy (ESPN letting go of B1G, PAC, & XII for this merged AAC/MWC leftover conference that conveniently hits the jackpot for OP’s team, Fresno St).

1). ESPN is NOT letting go of B1G. They will get same amount of content as they do currently at a price of currently+inflation-ish.

2). I realize NIU is left out of another hack’s hack at a conference realignment thread, so…

(04-23-2022 09:59 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  

(04-23-2022 09:52 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  So this thread starts off with a one-in-a-million-odds presumption (Big 12 adding Boise, CSU, SDSU, USF, Memphis, SMU, Gonzaga, & Saint Louis), and then piggybacks on that with another almost-one-in-a-million odds conspiracy (ESPN letting go of B1G, PAC, & XII for this merged AAC/MWC leftover conference that conveniently hits the jackpot for OP’s team, Fresno St).

SLU has made 6 NCAA tournaments in the 2000s. Why would the Big 12 add them exactly? Having KU and KSU are probably more popular in St Louis, than SLU is.

Saint Louis = Market (untapped for NBA) and basketball recruiting grounds. Billikens would most likely get back to their hey day level they were enjoying in years past with their bump up in Big12/20 conference revenue.

And, BTW, the Red Hawks end up in my Mega-AAC kinda by default with Denver and UMKC filling out the western division for basketball and other non-football sports. Markets! Markets! Markets! Is AAC’s way. And they will outbid deprecated WCC for SU and DU. Cal Baptist and maybe one other will be WCC(minus BYU/GU)-bound.

(04-23-2022 09:52 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  So this thread starts off with a one-in-a-million-odds presumption (Big 12 adding Boise, CSU, SDSU, USF, Memphis, SMU, Gonzaga, & Saint Louis), and then piggybacks on that with another almost-one-in-a-million odds conspiracy (ESPN letting go of B1G, PAC, & XII for this merged AAC/MWC leftover conference that conveniently hits the jackpot for OP’s team, Fresno St).

I think it is more likely for Fresno St to end up in the Big XII than for Temple, ECU, Tulane, Tulsa, Navy/Wichita State, Charlotte, FAU, UAB, Fresno State, New Mexico, Nevada, Hawaii, UNLV, AFA, Utah State, UTSA, UNT, Rice, Jan Jose State and Wyoming to form a 20 team mega league. I think the remainders of the MWC would be more likely to just backfill from UTEP, NMST, or other G5 Texas/Oklahoma programs. Just as the AAC would be more likely to backfill from Georgia State, MTSU, Buffalo, FIU, or ODU.

(04-23-2022 10:06 PM)freshtop Wrote:  [quote='IWokeUpLikeThis' pid='18207448' dateline='1650768752']
So this thread starts off with a one-in-a-million-odds presumption (Big 12 adding Boise, CSU, SDSU, USF, Memphis, SMU, Gonzaga, & Saint Louis), and then piggybacks on that with another almost-one-in-a-million odds conspiracy (ESPN letting go of B1G, PAC, & XII for this merged AAC/MWC leftover conference that conveniently hits the jackpot for OP’s team, Fresno St).

I think it is more likely for Fresno St to end up in the Big XII than for Temple, ECU, Tulane, Tulsa, Navy/Wichita State, Charlotte, FAU, UAB, Fresno State, New Mexico, Nevada, Hawaii, UNLV, AFA, Utah State, UTSA, UNT, Rice, Jan Jose State and Wyoming to form a 20 team mega league. I think the remainders of the MWC would be more likely to just backfill from UTEP, NMST, or other G5 Texas/Oklahoma programs. Just as the AAC would be more likely to backfill from Georgia State, MTSU, Buffalo, FIU, or ODU.
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Nah, maybe not until ACC GOR/tv contract expires…maybe even later like when next CFP contract expires.

(04-23-2022 09:59 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  

(04-23-2022 09:52 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  So this thread starts off with a one-in-a-million-odds presumption (Big 12 adding Boise, CSU, SDSU, USF, Memphis, SMU, Gonzaga, & Saint Louis), and then piggybacks on that with another almost-one-in-a-million odds conspiracy (ESPN letting go of B1G, PAC, & XII for this merged AAC/MWC leftover conference that conveniently hits the jackpot for OP’s team, Fresno St).

SLU has made 6 NCAA tournaments in the 2000s. Why would the Big 12 add them exactly? Having KU and KSU are probably more popular in St Louis, than SLU is.

It’s about 1 of 18 different elements in the OP that have no semblance of reality.

If you have to ask yourself, “do the odds of all these things in my proposal have even a 0.1% chance of coming to fruition?”, then what you’re posting isn’t actually a real world solution - it’s fantasy diarrhea with no grasp of how networks and realignment actually work.

(04-23-2022 10:19 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  

(04-23-2022 09:59 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  

(04-23-2022 09:52 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  So this thread starts off with a one-in-a-million-odds presumption (Big 12 adding Boise, CSU, SDSU, USF, Memphis, SMU, Gonzaga, & Saint Louis), and then piggybacks on that with another almost-one-in-a-million odds conspiracy (ESPN letting go of B1G, PAC, & XII for this merged AAC/MWC leftover conference that conveniently hits the jackpot for OP’s team, Fresno St).

SLU has made 6 NCAA tournaments in the 2000s. Why would the Big 12 add them exactly? Having KU and KSU are probably more popular in St Louis, than SLU is.

It’s about 1 of 18 different elements in the OP that have no semblance of reality.

If you have to ask yourself, “do the odds of all these things in my proposal have even a 0.1% chance of coming to fruition?”, then what you’re posting isn’t actually a real world solution - it’s fantasy diarrhea with no grasp of how networks and realignment actually work.

It’s 0.2% chance.

1). Big 12 won’t be able to get good deal with the 12 they have after networks - Fox, nbc, cbs - blow their wads on B1G then Pac12

2). ESPN has to maneuver money and keep content…

a. Get decent B1G content after Fox and NBC blow their wads on B1G tier-1.

b. Pay for revenue bolster of an SEC+OUT.

c. Save about $300 million per year headfaking for Pac12 and Big12.

d. Fill vacated content with coast to coast AAC on the relative-to-ESPN-cheap-but-good-for-all-MegaAAC-members with Mega-AAC content.

e. Remainder savings for espn goes to SEC+OUT, ACC, and next CFP contract.

f. Good idea to team up with Turner Sports for CFP (like Turner and cbs do for NCAATs)…also maybe Turner get some AAC content with espn partnership. Also maybe the two partner for next NCAAT contract…also, also, Disney and Discovery-Warner could partner in ALL content, not just sports. Laying Peacock and Paramount and Amazon/Apple/etc to waste on all fronts, not just sports.

(04-23-2022 10:03 PM)Fresno Fanatic Wrote:  

(04-23-2022 09:59 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  

(04-23-2022 09:52 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  So this thread starts off with a one-in-a-million-odds presumption (Big 12 adding Boise, CSU, SDSU, USF, Memphis, SMU, Gonzaga, & Saint Louis), and then piggybacks on that with another almost-one-in-a-million odds conspiracy (ESPN letting go of B1G, PAC, & XII for this merged AAC/MWC leftover conference that conveniently hits the jackpot for OP’s team, Fresno St).

SLU has made 6 NCAA tournaments in the 2000s. Why would the Big 12 add them exactly? Having KU and KSU are probably more popular in St Louis, than SLU is.

Saint Louis = Market (untapped for NBA) and basketball recruiting grounds. Billikens would most likely get back to their hey day level they were enjoying in years past with their bump up in Big12/20 conference revenue.

And, BTW, the Red Hawks end up in my Mega-AAC kinda by default with Denver and UMKC filling out the western division for basketball and other non-football sports. Markets! Markets! Markets! Is AAC’s way. And they will outbid deprecated WCC for SU and DU. Cal Baptist and maybe one other will be WCC(minus BYU/GU)-bound.

Rad! I am glad Seattle U found a way into your fantasy conference. I can rest easy tonight.

(04-23-2022 10:45 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  

(04-23-2022 10:03 PM)Fresno Fanatic Wrote:  

(04-23-2022 09:59 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  

(04-23-2022 09:52 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  So this thread starts off with a one-in-a-million-odds presumption (Big 12 adding Boise, CSU, SDSU, USF, Memphis, SMU, Gonzaga, & Saint Louis), and then piggybacks on that with another almost-one-in-a-million odds conspiracy (ESPN letting go of B1G, PAC, & XII for this merged AAC/MWC leftover conference that conveniently hits the jackpot for OP’s team, Fresno St).

SLU has made 6 NCAA tournaments in the 2000s. Why would the Big 12 add them exactly? Having KU and KSU are probably more popular in St Louis, than SLU is.

Saint Louis = Market (untapped for NBA) and basketball recruiting grounds. Billikens would most likely get back to their hey day level they were enjoying in years past with their bump up in Big12/20 conference revenue.

And, BTW, the Red Hawks end up in my Mega-AAC kinda by default with Denver and UMKC filling out the western division for basketball and other non-football sports. Markets! Markets! Markets! Is AAC’s way. And they will outbid deprecated WCC for SU and DU. Cal Baptist and maybe one other will be WCC(minus BYU/GU)-bound.

Rad! I am glad Seattle U found a way into your fantasy conference. I can rest easy tonight.

Seattle area is very good basketball recruiting grounds. And SU could become the next Zaga-ish with a nicer than current payday.

$205 million is all it would take for espn-MegaAAC to at least stay in the “game”.

“WHAT! $205MM/yr!…”

~$155MM+/year savings headfaking for Big12
~$144MM+/year savings headfaking for Pac12
~~partner with Turner on MegaAAC, next CFP contract, and eventually next NCAAT contract…also maybe some bones to Turner with a couple ACC or even an SEC game or two, or 3, or 12/season.