(04-16-2022 09:08 PM)Statefan Wrote:  UConn and Temple would both face blackballs based on football and other issues.

Temple's FB program is going through a complete rebuild, with an entirely new coaching staff, constituted of veteran coaches, many of whom have coached at P5 schools. Temple's new FB HC and AD are both from the University of Texas.

They've gotten off to a strong start with impressive recruiting.

Temple has taken swift action to replace an underperforming HC, and has proven that it has the ability and determination to maintain a strong football program:

2019: 8-5
2018: 8-5
2017: 7-6
2016: 10-4 AAC Championship Team
2015: 10-4 AAC East Division Championship Team

Temple also has a new President - a Stanford graduate and athlete (FB, track) who is more focused on athletic success than the university's recent Presidents have been. He has made it clear that his mandate is to move the university up to the next level, both athletically and academically.

The rebuilding process may take a year or two, but Temple's football program may make its way back into the upper echelon of the AAC by 2023-24.

The university's MBB program - - ranked #24th in the nation on the CBS Sports list of the greatest men's basketball programs of all time - - which finished in 4th place this season, is further along in its rebuilding program, and it, too, has the potential to move into the upper echelon of the AAC by 2023-24.

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(04-16-2022 11:04 PM)Milwaukee Wrote:  

(04-16-2022 09:08 PM)Statefan Wrote:  UConn and Temple would both face blackballs based on football and other issues.

Temple's FB program is going through a complete rebuild, with an entirely new coaching staff, constituted of veteran coaches, many of whom have coached at P5 schools. Temple's new FB HC and AD are both from the University of Texas.

They've gotten off to a strong start with impressive recruiting.

Temple has taken swift action to replace an underperforming HC, and has proven that it has the ability and determination to maintain a strong football program:

2019: 8-5
2018: 8-5
2017: 7-6
2016: 10-4 AAC Championship Team
2015: 10-4 AAC East Division Championship Team

Temple also has a new President - a Stanford graduate and athlete (FB, track) who is more focused on athletic success than the university's recent Presidents have been.

The rebuilding process may take a year or two, but Temple's football program may make its way back into the upper echelon of the AAC by 2023-24.

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Temple has systemic issues of which Football is just one issue. For their age and enrollment, their endowment is very weak. They were kicked out of the Big East. While they have a respectable program now, they did not have one for more than a decade around the 90's. Clemson with half the students, an all male military school until 1955, has 50% more endowment. MD has had similar issues. Temple also faces extreme competition in their home DMA - all the Philly pro sports, PSU football, and they face academic competition for eyes and attention from Penn, Pitt, Princeton, Villanova, Bryn Mawr, and PSU, I guess you could add the Blue Hens to that.

This is the thing that is often missed, lack of athletic success is often a signal of a lack of support at the university over issues that don't make it above the radar.

UConn, Temple, Tulane, Tulsa, Kansas, MD, Syracuse, and Nebraska have something in common - a broken pillar or two under the ivory tower. For most the problem is rooted in history and demographics and it has yielded a history of oscillating decision making and at some point they ran out of money. The AAU did not wake up one morning and say, let's toss out Syracuse and Nebraska. UConn did not decide one morning to piss off everyone associated with the ACC back in 2003. MD did not think back in 1970 that if they gave up many of the grad programs that their athletic program fund raising would suffer when the next generation came of age. But if it is Saturday, Tulane is flirting with bringing back football.

It's tough to overcome your essential nature.

(04-16-2022 11:35 PM)Statefan Wrote:  

(04-16-2022 11:04 PM)Milwaukee Wrote:  

(04-16-2022 09:08 PM)Statefan Wrote:  UConn and Temple would both face blackballs based on football and other issues.

Temple's FB program is going through a complete rebuild, with an entirely new coaching staff, constituted of veteran coaches, many of whom have coached at P5 schools. Temple's new FB HC and AD are both from the University of Texas.

They've gotten off to a strong start with impressive recruiting.

Temple has taken swift action to replace an underperforming HC, and has proven that it has the ability and determination to maintain a strong football program:

2019: 8-5
2018: 8-5
2017: 7-6
2016: 10-4 AAC Championship Team
2015: 10-4 AAC East Division Championship Team

Temple also has a new President - a Stanford graduate and athlete (FB, track) who is more focused on athletic success than the university's recent Presidents have been. He has made it clear that his mandate is to move the university up to the next level, both athletically and academically.

The rebuilding process may take a year or two, but Temple's football program may make its way back into the upper echelon of the AAC by 2023-24.

The university's MBB program - - ranked #24th in the nation on the CBS Sports list of the greatest men's basketball programs of all time - - which finished in 4th place this season, is further along in its rebuilding program, and it, too, has the potential to move into the upper echelon of the AAC by 2023-24.

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Temple has systemic issues of which Football is just one issue. For their age and enrollment, their endowment is very weak. They were kicked out of the Big East. While they have a respectable program now, they did not have one for more than a decade around the 90's. Clemson with half the students, an all male military school until 1955, has 50% more endowment. MD has had similar issues. Temple also faces extreme competition in their home DMA - all the Philly pro sports, PSU football, and they face academic competition for eyes and attention from Penn, Pitt, Princeton, Villanova, Bryn Mawr, and PSU, I guess you could add the Blue Hens to that.

Temple, founded in 1884, is one of the nation's top-100 to 110-ranked R1 major research universities. Like the other major research universities in its conference, it has made considerable progress over the past decade, due in part to the benefits of being a member of the AAC, such as increased applications and rising selectivity of admissions.

Temple's endowment has tripled, and is now an estimated $700,000,000 to $750,000,000 ($0.70 - $0.75 billion).

Temple's graduate level (law, medicine, business, technological, Ph.D.) programs and faculty have been highly respected, nationally, for many decades, and their undergraduate programs have been improving over the past decade, as admissions have become more selective. Temple is very proud of its heritage as a university that was founded with an historical mission of providing working citizens the opportunity to pursue a college education.

Temple was a football member of the Big East for 16 seasons, from its inception in 1991 through 2004, and in 2012, when it rejoined the Big East after completing a very successful rebuilding program. Because the Big East (and the AAC in 2013-14) was a BCS conference, Temple has the distinction of being one of the nation's few non-P5 universities (e.g., Houston, Cincinnati, SMU, Tulane, & UConn) that have been members of a power conference.

With respect to competition with other pro and college athletic teams in the region, that level of competition certainly isn't an insuperable obstacle. Major universities in Los Angeles (USC, UCLA), Miami, and Houston have had tremendous success in FB and BB despite having to compete with the same level of competition with nearby professional and collegiate teams.

The major broadcasters have made it clear that one of the most important criteria for the conferences to consider when adding new members is the size of the university's regional market area.

The Philadelphia metropolitan area, which encompasses much of southern New Jersey and populous areas in Delaware and southeastern PA, is the nation's seventh-largest (pop. 6.25 million).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolit...tical_area

Thus, Temple would, uniquely, enable the ACC to add the third-largest market region on the Atlantic seaboard, where it currently has no members. Temple would be a convenient travel partner for BC, Syracuse, Pitt, VT, and UVA, and would help to bridge the geographical gap between the the ACC's northern and southern universities which was vacated by Maryland when it joined the Big Ten.

If the university's FB and BB programs are able to establish themselves in the upper tier of the AAC over the next 3-5 years and beyond, Temple could become an attractive expansion candidate for the ACC.

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Temple would need to have some good years and maybe even a better stadium situation before they’re added to the ACC.

(04-16-2022 11:04 PM)Milwaukee Wrote:  

(04-16-2022 09:08 PM)Statefan Wrote:  UConn and Temple would both face blackballs based on football and other issues.

Temple's FB program is going through a complete rebuild, with an entirely new coaching staff, constituted of veteran coaches, many of whom have coached at P5 schools. Temple's new FB HC and AD are both from the University of Texas.

They've gotten off to a strong start with impressive recruiting.

Temple has taken swift action to replace an underperforming HC, and has proven that it has the ability and determination to maintain a strong football program:

2019: 8-5
2018: 8-5
2017: 7-6
2016: 10-4 AAC Championship Team
2015: 10-4 AAC East Division Championship Team

Temple also has a new President - a Stanford graduate and athlete (FB, track) who is more focused on athletic success than the university's recent Presidents have been. He has made it clear that his mandate is to move the university up to the next level, both athletically and academically.

The rebuilding process may take a year or two, but Temple's football program may make its way back into the upper echelon of the AAC by 2023-24.

The university's MBB program - - ranked #24th in the nation on the CBS Sports list of the greatest men's basketball programs of all time - - which finished in 4th place this season, is further along in its rebuilding program, and it, too, has the potential to move into the upper echelon of the AAC by 2023-24.

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Do you think they’ll build a new stadium?

Temple's new president doesn't currently support the construction of an on-campus football stadium.

https://templeupdate.com/first-on-temple...n-wingard/

Quote:Near the end of the conversation Dr. Wingard was asked about the proposed football stadium that could be built on Temple’s campus.

He mentioned how excited he is for all the new additions to Temple’s athletic programs, including the new Athletic Director and Football Coach.

“I am excited about the future of our football program and all of our revenue and non-revenue sports,” he said.

Dr. Wingard said the University is about to renew the contract they hold with Lincoln Financial Field.

“We have a good place to play, it’s a world class facility, where recruits come to see that there is a competitive advantage, where we are able to play in the same place where the Philadelphia Eagles play,” he said.

The President said the University does not have any plans to pursue building a stadium on campus at this time.

Milwaukee you would make a great booster club or alumni member for Temple.

Compared to the ACC schools Temple is poor as a church mouse.

Endowment - School

18 Billion - ND
13 Billion - Duke (This is only the main endowment - they have two more)
14.5 Billion - UVa
5.1 Billion - UNC-Ch
4.2 Billion - Pitt
3.8 Billion - BC
3.2 Billion - GT
2.2 Billion - NC State
1.8 Billion - Syracuse
1.8 Billion - VT
1.7 Billion - WF
1.4 Billion - Miami
1.1 Billion - Clemson
1.0 Billion - FSU
800 Million - Louisville

Here are some nearby folks to you and the ACC:

Vandy - 11 Billion
Georgetown - 2.5 Billion
Villanova 1.2 Billion
MD - 1.1 Billion
USF 700 Million
UConn - 620 Million

Now the overall endowment is not a direct signal of athletic anything, but it does show what the University can access or lay it hands upon (I use that to mean if you have a $10 Billion in the bank, you can scrape up $100 Million on short notice even if you have to obtain a bank loan). ND, Duke, and UVa swim in money and are not really motivated by it. The rest of the ACC, even Pitt, UNC, GT, and BC work for a living although you could say those 4 actually consult from home or their beach house or the golf course.

The three prongs of all MD's problems were the decision to move the graduate programs to Baltimore in 1970. The changing demographics of MD that led to a alumni based that did not donate to the University. University leadership that ignored the first two problems until it was too late fix the problem leading to perpetual weakness.

Temple is 140 years old in a real city that did not have it's athletics or economics negatively impacted by Jim Crow segregation for the first half of the 20th Century. You should have about $4 Billion in the bank. The reasons you don't vary and some of it is due to the fact that the Commonwealth of PA like most Northeastern States, do not support public higher education. UConn has many of the same issues. That means Temple starts the race with one foot in wet cement. Problems like that morph into stupid decisions like those that occurred at UConn.

In the ACC you would be the poorest kid in the neighborhood - I don't recommend that for you.

Other than the Nation, or a State, a major University is one of the few immortal creatures in the United States. Cities, some churches and some business fall into this category but not many.

When you are essentially "immortal" your time horizon dwarfs that of all others and the time to fix a problem takes decades. That's the secret of the P-5 they are where they are today because of decisions made prior to the Great Depression, prior to WWI, and prior to the Arab Oil Embargo.

If you were not FULLY committed to P-5 football in 1992 - thirty years ago - you are sol today with the only two exceptions being UCF and USF - the living representation of a monstrous demographic shift.

(04-17-2022 01:09 PM)Statefan Wrote:  Milwaukee you would make a great booster club or alumni member for Temple.

Compared to the ACC schools Temple is poor as a church mouse.

Endowment - School

18 Billion - ND
13 Billion - Duke (This is only the main endowment - they have two more)
14.5 Billion - UVa
5.1 Billion - UNC-Ch
4.2 Billion - Pitt
3.8 Billion - BC
3.2 Billion - GT
2.2 Billion - NC State
1.8 Billion - Syracuse
1.8 Billion - VT
1.7 Billion - WF
1.4 Billion - Miami
1.1 Billion - Clemson
1.0 Billion - FSU
800 Million - Louisville

Here are some nearby folks to you and the ACC:

Vandy - 11 Billion
Georgetown - 2.5 Billion
Villanova 1.2 Billion
MD - 1.1 Billion
USF 700 Million
UConn - 620 Million

Now the overall endowment is not a direct signal of athletic anything, but it does show what the University can access or lay it hands upon (I use that to mean if you have a $10 Billion in the bank, you can scrape up $100 Million on short notice even if you have to obtain a bank loan). ND, Duke, and UVa swim in money and are not really motivated by it. The rest of the ACC, even Pitt, UNC, GT, and BC work for a living although you could say those 4 actually consult from home or their beach house or the golf course.

The three prongs of all MD's problems were the decision to move the graduate programs to Baltimore in 1970. The changing demographics of MD that led to a alumni based that did not donate to the University. University leadership that ignored the first two problems until it was too late fix the problem leading to perpetual weakness.

Temple is 140 years old in a real city that did not have it's athletics or economics negatively impacted by Jim Crow segregation for the first half of the 20th Century. You should have about $4 Billion in the bank. The reasons you don't vary and some of it is due to the fact that the Commonwealth of PA like most Northeastern States, do not support public higher education. UConn has many of the same issues. That means Temple starts the race with one foot in wet cement. Problems like that morph into stupid decisions like those that occurred at UConn.

In the ACC you would be the poorest kid in the neighborhood - I don't recommend that for you.

Other than the Nation, or a State, a major University is one of the few immortal creatures in the United States. Cities, some churches and some business fall into this category but not many.

When you are essentially "immortal" your time horizon dwarfs that of all others and the time to fix a problem takes decades. That's the secret of the P-5 they are where they are today because of decisions made prior to the Great Depression, prior to WWI, and prior to the Arab Oil Embargo.

If you were not FULLY committed to P-5 football in 1992 - thirty years ago - you are sol today with the only two exceptions being UCF and USF - the living representation of a monstrous demographic shift.

Wow Pitt should have kept that on-campus stadium.

(04-17-2022 04:35 PM)esayem Wrote:  

(04-17-2022 01:09 PM)Statefan Wrote:  Milwaukee you would make a great booster club or alumni member for Temple.

Compared to the ACC schools Temple is poor as a church mouse.

Endowment - School

18 Billion - ND
13 Billion - Duke (This is only the main endowment - they have two more)
14.5 Billion - UVa
5.1 Billion - UNC-Ch
4.2 Billion - Pitt
3.8 Billion - BC
3.2 Billion - GT
2.2 Billion - NC State
1.8 Billion - Syracuse
1.8 Billion - VT
1.7 Billion - WF
1.4 Billion - Miami
1.1 Billion - Clemson
1.0 Billion - FSU
800 Million - Louisville

Here are some nearby folks to you and the ACC:

Vandy - 11 Billion
Georgetown - 2.5 Billion
Villanova 1.2 Billion
MD - 1.1 Billion
USF 700 Million
UConn - 620 Million

Now the overall endowment is not a direct signal of athletic anything, but it does show what the University can access or lay it hands upon (I use that to mean if you have a $10 Billion in the bank, you can scrape up $100 Million on short notice even if you have to obtain a bank loan). ND, Duke, and UVa swim in money and are not really motivated by it. The rest of the ACC, even Pitt, UNC, GT, and BC work for a living although you could say those 4 actually consult from home or their beach house or the golf course.

The three prongs of all MD's problems were the decision to move the graduate programs to Baltimore in 1970. The changing demographics of MD that led to a alumni based that did not donate to the University. University leadership that ignored the first two problems until it was too late fix the problem leading to perpetual weakness.

Temple is 140 years old in a real city that did not have it's athletics or economics negatively impacted by Jim Crow segregation for the first half of the 20th Century. You should have about $4 Billion in the bank. The reasons you don't vary and some of it is due to the fact that the Commonwealth of PA like most Northeastern States, do not support public higher education. UConn has many of the same issues. That means Temple starts the race with one foot in wet cement. Problems like that morph into stupid decisions like those that occurred at UConn.

In the ACC you would be the poorest kid in the neighborhood - I don't recommend that for you.

Other than the Nation, or a State, a major University is one of the few immortal creatures in the United States. Cities, some churches and some business fall into this category but not many.

When you are essentially "immortal" your time horizon dwarfs that of all others and the time to fix a problem takes decades. That's the secret of the P-5 they are where they are today because of decisions made prior to the Great Depression, prior to WWI, and prior to the Arab Oil Embargo.

If you were not FULLY committed to P-5 football in 1992 - thirty years ago - you are sol today with the only two exceptions being UCF and USF - the living representation of a monstrous demographic shift.

Wow Pitt should have kept that on-campus stadium.

Pitt's old stadium had become a dump sort of like Cincy's. Pittsburgh has spatial issues because of the topography, rivers, and the old steel mills.

As I understand it, Pitt is landlocked between the river, the bluffs, a hoidy toidy neighborhood, and an African American neighborhood that the Pittsburgh Housing Authority inadvertently destroyed after the Great Depression with medium high rise public housing that looks like Lego Blocks. The politics involved with pocket neighborhoods that are too small to thrive and too weird to gentrify usually results with an entity like Pitt walling it off. Them building a new on campus stadium would be like attempting to build a new on campus facility at BC, UNC, NC State, GT, or Miami - a real urban renewal nightmare with all sorts of nimby's and all sorts of winners and losers that make projects like impossible without some sort of white knight.

(04-17-2022 01:09 PM)Statefan Wrote:  Compared to the ACC schools Temple is poor as a church mouse...

Endowment - School:

800 Million - Louisville

Louisville has sent 6 FB teams to bowl games and has had five basketball teams ranked in the final AP Top 20 since 2014, when they joined the ACC.

Endowment - School:

873 Million - Temple

"The Philadelphia university’s endowment grew 28% from $680 million in fiscal 2020 to $873 million in fiscal 2021."

https://www.bizjournals.com/philadelphia/news/2021/11/02/temple-university-big-endowment-bump-doesnt-mean.html

Louisville has proven that a school with an endowment in the $800 million range can be successful in the ACC.

If the university's FB and BB programs are able to establish themselves in the upper tier of the AAC over the next 3-5 years and beyond, Temple could become an attractive expansion candidate for the ACC.

(04-17-2022 01:09 PM)Statefan Wrote:  If you were not FULLY committed to P-5 football in 1992 - thirty years ago - you are sol today...

If that were the case, then UCF - - which didn't even have an FBS football program in 1992 - - wouldn't have been invited to join the Big 12 in 2023.

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(04-17-2022 08:13 PM)Statefan Wrote:  As I understand it, Pitt is landlocked between the river, the bluffs, a hoidy toidy neighborhood, and an African American neighborhood that the Pittsburgh Housing Authority inadvertently destroyed after the Great Depression with medium high rise public housing that looks like Lego Blocks. The politics involved with pocket neighborhoods that are too small to thrive and too weird to gentrify usually results with an entity like Pitt walling it off. Them building a new on campus stadium would be like attempting to build a new on campus facility at BC, UNC, NC State, GT, or Miami - a real urban renewal nightmare with all sorts of nimby's and all sorts of winners and losers that make projects like impossible without some sort of white knight.

I’ve wondered about how long a NIMBY culture can last in any one place. That population is apparently well known around Villanova and why any football stadium upgrade is allegedly a non-starter. Yet, the campus is clearly growing and traffic from the growth of the school and nearby new business making things…interesting?

For Temple, they followed in Penn’s footsteps and started buying up the neighborhood around them. I think they could build an OCS, but the travel logistics to that part of the city would be very tough. The “nimby” bunch would maybe be more like up the road or away from campus in peripheral spaces that don’t want the added traffic or other volume. I would also say there’s a 76 issue in that any travel that involves getting onto 76, 676, 476, etc. to get into town can be downright nightmarish. Whereas the Linc is right along I-95 and south of some of the other connector hubs, you have options that way, albeit limited (you’re close to the airport, though). Toward Temple’s part of town, you’re looking at older state routes that probably can’t broaden/expand, or the ancient one, US Rte. 1. I think they could put something in the Northeast further north on 1, but, again, travel logistics for those on-campus. Busses and regional rail? I doubt that goes over well.

(04-17-2022 01:09 PM)Statefan Wrote:  Endowment - School

18 Billion - ND
13 Billion - Duke (This is only the main endowment - they have two more)
14.5 Billion - UVa
5.1 Billion - UNC-Ch
4.2 Billion - Pitt
3.8 Billion - BC
3.2 Billion - GT
2.2 Billion - NC State
1.8 Billion - Syracuse
1.8 Billion - VT
1.7 Billion - WF
1.4 Billion - Miami
1.1 Billion - Clemson
1.0 Billion - FSU
800 Million - Louisville

Here are the ACC Endowment Market Values as of June 30, 2021:

Thousands
$18,074,543 Notre Dame (private)
$12,692,472 Duke (private)
$10,532,651 Virginia
$5,647,017 Pittsburgh (state-related)
$5,166,500 North Carolina
$3,827,100 Boston College (private)
$2,971,501 Georgia Tech
$1,946,242 NC State
$1,862,910 Wake Forest (private)
$1,814,020 Syracuse (private)
$1,690,394 Virginia Tech
$1,393,437 Miami (private)
$1,008,750 Clemson
$958,704 Louisville
$897,570 Florida State

Temple is shown as $835,241.

Source: Copyright 2022 National Association of College and University Business Officers and TIAA.

(04-17-2022 01:09 PM)Statefan Wrote:  Milwaukee you would make a great booster club or alumni member for Temple.

Compared to the ACC schools Temple is poor as a church mouse.

Endowment - School

18 Billion - ND
13 Billion - Duke (This is only the main endowment - they have two more)
14.5 Billion - UVa
5.1 Billion - UNC-Ch
4.2 Billion - Pitt
3.8 Billion - BC
3.2 Billion - GT
2.2 Billion - NC State
1.8 Billion - Syracuse
1.8 Billion - VT
1.7 Billion - WF
1.4 Billion - Miami
1.1 Billion - Clemson
1.0 Billion - FSU
800 Million - Louisville

Here are some nearby folks to you and the ACC:

Vandy - 11 Billion
Georgetown - 2.5 Billion
Villanova 1.2 Billion
MD - 1.1 Billion
USF 700 Million
UConn - 620 Million

Now the overall endowment is not a direct signal of athletic anything, but it does show what the University can access or lay it hands upon (I use that to mean if you have a $10 Billion in the bank, you can scrape up $100 Million on short notice even if you have to obtain a bank loan). ND, Duke, and UVa swim in money and are not really motivated by it. The rest of the ACC, even Pitt, UNC, GT, and BC work for a living although you could say those 4 actually consult from home or their beach house or the golf course.

The three prongs of all MD's problems were the decision to move the graduate programs to Baltimore in 1970. The changing demographics of MD that led to a alumni based that did not donate to the University. University leadership that ignored the first two problems until it was too late fix the problem leading to perpetual weakness.

Temple is 140 years old in a real city that did not have it's athletics or economics negatively impacted by Jim Crow segregation for the first half of the 20th Century. You should have about $4 Billion in the bank. The reasons you don't vary and some of it is due to the fact that the Commonwealth of PA like most Northeastern States, do not support public higher education. UConn has many of the same issues. That means Temple starts the race with one foot in wet cement. Problems like that morph into stupid decisions like those that occurred at UConn.

In the ACC you would be the poorest kid in the neighborhood - I don't recommend that for you.

Other than the Nation, or a State, a major University is one of the few immortal creatures in the United States. Cities, some churches and some business fall into this category but not many.

When you are essentially "immortal" your time horizon dwarfs that of all others and the time to fix a problem takes decades. That's the secret of the P-5 they are where they are today because of decisions made prior to the Great Depression, prior to WWI, and prior to the Arab Oil Embargo.

If you were not FULLY committed to P-5 football in 1992 - thirty years ago - you are sol today with the only two exceptions being UCF and USF - the living representation of a monstrous demographic shift.

And Cincy has about $1.7B of endowment. Temple is a fine school but honestly is there any reason to pick Temple over Cincy?

(04-18-2022 11:46 AM)random asian guy Wrote:  

(04-17-2022 01:09 PM)Statefan Wrote:  Milwaukee you would make a great booster club or alumni member for Temple.

Compared to the ACC schools Temple is poor as a church mouse.

Endowment - School

18 Billion - ND
13 Billion - Duke (This is only the main endowment - they have two more)
14.5 Billion - UVa
5.1 Billion - UNC-Ch
4.2 Billion - Pitt
3.8 Billion - BC
3.2 Billion - GT
2.2 Billion - NC State
1.8 Billion - Syracuse
1.8 Billion - VT
1.7 Billion - WF
1.4 Billion - Miami
1.1 Billion - Clemson
1.0 Billion - FSU
800 Million - Louisville

Here are some nearby folks to you and the ACC:

Vandy - 11 Billion
Georgetown - 2.5 Billion
Villanova 1.2 Billion
MD - 1.1 Billion
USF 700 Million
UConn - 620 Million

Now the overall endowment is not a direct signal of athletic anything, but it does show what the University can access or lay it hands upon (I use that to mean if you have a $10 Billion in the bank, you can scrape up $100 Million on short notice even if you have to obtain a bank loan). ND, Duke, and UVa swim in money and are not really motivated by it. The rest of the ACC, even Pitt, UNC, GT, and BC work for a living although you could say those 4 actually consult from home or their beach house or the golf course.

The three prongs of all MD's problems were the decision to move the graduate programs to Baltimore in 1970. The changing demographics of MD that led to a alumni based that did not donate to the University. University leadership that ignored the first two problems until it was too late fix the problem leading to perpetual weakness.

Temple is 140 years old in a real city that did not have it's athletics or economics negatively impacted by Jim Crow segregation for the first half of the 20th Century. You should have about $4 Billion in the bank. The reasons you don't vary and some of it is due to the fact that the Commonwealth of PA like most Northeastern States, do not support public higher education. UConn has many of the same issues. That means Temple starts the race with one foot in wet cement. Problems like that morph into stupid decisions like those that occurred at UConn.

In the ACC you would be the poorest kid in the neighborhood - I don't recommend that for you.

Other than the Nation, or a State, a major University is one of the few immortal creatures in the United States. Cities, some churches and some business fall into this category but not many.

When you are essentially "immortal" your time horizon dwarfs that of all others and the time to fix a problem takes decades. That's the secret of the P-5 they are where they are today because of decisions made prior to the Great Depression, prior to WWI, and prior to the Arab Oil Embargo.

If you were not FULLY committed to P-5 football in 1992 - thirty years ago - you are sol today with the only two exceptions being UCF and USF - the living representation of a monstrous demographic shift.

And Cincy has about $1.7B of endowment. Temple is a fine school but honestly is there any reason to pick Temple over Cincy?

The only one I can think of would be a preference for Philadelphia vs. Cincinnati. That shouldn't be enough to put Temple over Cincy in this though.