(02-17-2023 12:22 PM)Big 12 fan too Wrote:  

(02-17-2023 01:13 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(02-17-2023 12:54 AM)Transic_nyc Wrote:  



More coals on the fire. One would think that the Pac and ACC could work together but, it seems, some programs have lost patience with the process.

I saw the podcast he quoted. The AD at Florida State did say all of those things but they were more laid between comments of the ACC needs to this and that, but Florida State can't afford to be kept at this valuation, etc. For the whole interview it was not a we are leaving the ACC statement, but he laid everything but that comment.

As I said in another thread, the major PAC brands and the ACC brands are reaching critical mass. The PAC because their crisis is immediate, and the ACC brands because their crisis can't be addressed formally until 2035 for 2036. And they simply can't lose over 400 million in revenue in the interim.

So why the public woofing? To get people ready for what must come. You don't launch into a struggle to seek new relationships unless you build up the desire of your fans to do so first, and the expectation of those same fans that you will succeed.

In the case of FSU and Clemson they were good soldiers in 2011 when they thought they were on the way to the SEC after the ACC big plan blew up and ESPN released the announcement they were headed out. But Notre Dame becoming a partial pulled them back in. It will be interesting to see how ESPN handles this.

This is historically how it goes.

By the end OU fans had been flamed so much to the need to move, that 11 am kick off times had nearly become pivot points for institutional alignment decisions.

Absolutely, you use whatever fulcrum you can to dislodge the half-buried boulder that everyone claimed was immovable.

(02-17-2023 01:13 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(02-17-2023 12:54 AM)Transic_nyc Wrote:  



More coals on the fire. One would think that the Pac and ACC could work together but, it seems, some programs have lost patience with the process.

I saw the podcast he quoted. The AD at Florida State did say all of those things but they were more laid between comments of the ACC needs to this and that, but Florida State can't afford to be kept at this valuation, etc. For the whole interview it was not a we are leaving the ACC statement, but he laid everything but that comment.

As I said in another thread, the major PAC brands and the ACC brands are reaching critical mass. The PAC because their crisis is immediate, and the ACC brands because their crisis can't be addressed formally until 2035 for 2036. And they simply can't lose over 400 million in revenue in the interim.

So why the public woofing? To get people ready for what must come. You don't launch into a struggle to seek new relationships unless you build up the desire of your fans to do so first, and the expectation of those same fans that you will succeed.

In the case of FSU and Clemson they were good soldiers in 2011 when they thought they were on the way to the SEC after the ACC big plan blew up and ESPN released the announcement they were headed out. But Notre Dame becoming a partial pulled them back in. It will be interesting to see how ESPN handles this.

Yet, who was his audience?
Was it Florida State fans? If it was it was to signal them that in the coming period they would have to raise an enormous amount of money to buy their way out of the ACC.
Or was his audience ESPN? Reminding the Mouse that FSU is a valuable asset to ESPN, helping to knit the patchwork ACC together into a valuable asset.
And if the audience is ESPN is he looking for relief for the entire conference or is he just wanting ESPN to pay for Florida State's extraction from the conference?

What happened in the past does not matter, all of the people have all changed( Presidents, ADs, Conference commissioners, ESPN presidents and CEOs) and the only constants left are FSU's contracts with the ACC and the conference's contracts with ESPN.
He laid out a circumstance but no solution. He was calm and well spoken and the only thing missing was his tin cup.