(04-03-2022 11:13 PM)Todor Wrote:  

(04-03-2022 10:14 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(04-03-2022 10:04 PM)natibeast2.0 Wrote:  

(04-03-2022 01:36 AM)Todor Wrote:  

(04-02-2022 02:37 PM)Gamenole Wrote:  Todor is much better at it, I do hope Putin is paying him more.

According to half the dinos on here, Russia is still communist, therefore we are paid equally:)

It is funny that plenty of people have brought up the communist word when speaking of Russia since the invasion. I just disregard it but every time I hear it but I want to say uh they haven’t been communist for 30 years.

This is more in regard to Soviet Union not communism as Putin isn’t a communist but a good quote for understanding him “Whoever does not miss the Soviet Union has no heart…whoever wants it back has no brain.”

I would suspect that Putin very much considers himself a fine communist. In actuality he is a tyrant dictator.

When your country is under constant attack, someone has to stand up and be a man. Look how easily our own politicians get bought by foreign countries and make all kinds of illegal deals that hurt the country. Russia had that too until they sent the Americans and their letter agencies packing.

This last statement is clown worthy. Putin has no regard for Russians. It’s all about him period. Stop smoking the psychedelic mushrooms this late.

(04-03-2022 11:53 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(04-03-2022 11:13 PM)Todor Wrote:  

(04-03-2022 10:14 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(04-03-2022 10:04 PM)natibeast2.0 Wrote:  

(04-03-2022 01:36 AM)Todor Wrote:  According to half the dinos on here, Russia is still communist, therefore we are paid equally:)

It is funny that plenty of people have brought up the communist word when speaking of Russia since the invasion. I just disregard it but every time I hear it but I want to say uh they haven’t been communist for 30 years.

This is more in regard to Soviet Union not communism as Putin isn’t a communist but a good quote for understanding him “Whoever does not miss the Soviet Union has no heart…whoever wants it back has no brain.”

I would suspect that Putin very much considers himself a fine communist. In actuality he is a tyrant dictator.

When your country is under constant attack, someone has to stand up and be a man. Look how easily our own politicians get bought by foreign countries and make all kinds of illegal deals that hurt the country. Russia had that too until they sent the Americans and their letter agencies packing.

This last statement is clown worthy. Putin has no regard for Russians. It’s all about him period. Stop smoking the psychedelic mushrooms this late.

Oh, ok, anyone who isn’t out to throw themselves out of office to keep their adversaries happy is “all about themselves.” Sounds a lot like the morons here that complain about humans breathing all the air. And countries that don’t welcome US interventions are being aggressive. The Iraqis were so selfish, they haven’t even paid us back for all of the expense we incurred killing half of them.

Yes, booting US spies out of Russia proves something is wrong with Vladimir Putin. At least in the eyes of a true blue globalist who believes in sovereignty for some countries but not others.

Will Putin take the ride out that VZ was offered? I suspect he will slink away before the “covid” gets him. Isn’t that the way power is transferred in COMMUNIST Russia?

(04-03-2022 10:15 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(04-03-2022 10:04 PM)natibeast2.0 Wrote:  

(04-03-2022 01:36 AM)Todor Wrote:  

(04-02-2022 02:37 PM)Gamenole Wrote:  

(04-02-2022 01:51 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Its a damn travesty. We are getting played again. It might as well be russia vs russia. There aint no good guys here and its not our fight. Even worse, India is siding with Russia causing the creation of a parallell world economy. Meanwhile the retards here gobble up the propaganda from the green t shirt, larping, neck beard puppet thinking he is saving democracy.



Premptive im a russia sympathizer on putins payroll. Blah blah blah

Todor is much better at it, I do hope Putin is paying him more.

According to half the dinos on here, Russia is still communist, therefore we are paid equally:)

It is funny that plenty of people have brought up the communist word when speaking of Russia since the invasion. I just disregard it but every time I hear it but I want to say uh they haven’t been communist for 30 years.

This is more in regard to Soviet Union not communism as Putin isn’t a communist but a good quote for understanding him “Whoever does not miss the Soviet Union has no heart…whoever wants it back has no brain.”

Correct, Putin is just another corrupt Dictator and it shows. Authoritarian under the disguise of being Communist. That being said, isn’t that the MO for all Communist countries ie Cuba, Venezuela etc

They aren't communist anymore. The communists are the accepted opposition. Putin is just a fascist. He is the Nazi threat to Russia.

(04-04-2022 10:44 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(04-03-2022 10:15 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(04-03-2022 10:04 PM)natibeast2.0 Wrote:  

(04-03-2022 01:36 AM)Todor Wrote:  

(04-02-2022 02:37 PM)Gamenole Wrote:  Todor is much better at it, I do hope Putin is paying him more.

According to half the dinos on here, Russia is still communist, therefore we are paid equally:)

It is funny that plenty of people have brought up the communist word when speaking of Russia since the invasion. I just disregard it but every time I hear it but I want to say uh they haven’t been communist for 30 years.

This is more in regard to Soviet Union not communism as Putin isn’t a communist but a good quote for understanding him “Whoever does not miss the Soviet Union has no heart…whoever wants it back has no brain.”

Correct, Putin is just another corrupt Dictator and it shows. Authoritarian under the disguise of being Communist. That being said, isn’t that the MO for all Communist countries ie Cuba, Venezuela etc

They aren't communist anymore. The communists are the accepted opposition. Putin is just a fascist. He is the Nazi threat to Russia.

It was a democracy for a short time---and then quickly collapsed into a dictatorship.

(04-04-2022 11:35 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(04-04-2022 10:44 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(04-03-2022 10:15 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(04-03-2022 10:04 PM)natibeast2.0 Wrote:  

(04-03-2022 01:36 AM)Todor Wrote:  According to half the dinos on here, Russia is still communist, therefore we are paid equally:)

It is funny that plenty of people have brought up the communist word when speaking of Russia since the invasion. I just disregard it but every time I hear it but I want to say uh they haven’t been communist for 30 years.

This is more in regard to Soviet Union not communism as Putin isn’t a communist but a good quote for understanding him “Whoever does not miss the Soviet Union has no heart…whoever wants it back has no brain.”

Correct, Putin is just another corrupt Dictator and it shows. Authoritarian under the disguise of being Communist. That being said, isn’t that the MO for all Communist countries ie Cuba, Venezuela etc

They aren't communist anymore. The communists are the accepted opposition. Putin is just a fascist. He is the Nazi threat to Russia.

It was a democracy for a short time---and then quickly collapsed into a dictatorship.

But america doesn’t do business with dictators, and every American brand with junk to sell or greasy food to hawk is on every street corner. The dictator part must have started after they got market share

To be sure, Russia doesn’t have free and fair elections like the US. Theirs always have some questionable characteristics. And that pretty much proves they don’t have a true democratic bone in their bodies, right?

It was democratic for a while though. When they were giving away the store to foreigners, we were writing their constitution for them, the long time Communist president was signing everything his American handlers put in front of him, and people were making less than during communism.

#AmericanPoisonPillAdvice

(04-04-2022 01:46 PM)Todor Wrote:  

(04-04-2022 11:35 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(04-04-2022 10:44 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(04-03-2022 10:15 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(04-03-2022 10:04 PM)natibeast2.0 Wrote:  It is funny that plenty of people have brought up the communist word when speaking of Russia since the invasion. I just disregard it but every time I hear it but I want to say uh they haven’t been communist for 30 years.

This is more in regard to Soviet Union not communism as Putin isn’t a communist but a good quote for understanding him “Whoever does not miss the Soviet Union has no heart…whoever wants it back has no brain.”

Correct, Putin is just another corrupt Dictator and it shows. Authoritarian under the disguise of being Communist. That being said, isn’t that the MO for all Communist countries ie Cuba, Venezuela etc

They aren't communist anymore. The communists are the accepted opposition. Putin is just a fascist. He is the Nazi threat to Russia.

It was a democracy for a short time---and then quickly collapsed into a dictatorship.

But america doesn’t do business with dictators, and every American brand with junk to sell or greasy food to hawk is on every street corner. The dictator part must have started after they got market share

To be sure, Russia doesn’t have free and fair elections like the US. Theirs always have some questionable characteristics. And that pretty much proves they don’t have a true democratic bone in their bodies, right?

It was democratic for a while though. When they were giving away the store to foreigners, we were writing their constitution for them, the long time Communist president was signing everything his American handlers put in front of him, and people were making less than during communism.

#AmericanPoisonPillAdvice

First, we do business with everyone for the most part. We are capitalists. The US economy is a private enterprise affair----where privately owned business's are free to deal with whomever they wish unless the government specifically forbids it---and that type of forbidden sanction is a relatively rare occurrence.

Second--this "they were giving away the store" is just wrong. Russia is so corrupt, it was always going to be a messy dumpster fire during the switchover to capitalism. That said, the "they are giving away the store" stuff is silly. Back in the 80's everyone said "Japan is buying everything---they are going to own the entire US"----now everyone thinks China's going to the own US. Some people dont understand capitalism. Incoming investment in your economy is good. As long as the means of production physically remain in the US---it doesnt really matter where the investment comes from because the US ultimately maintains control of of those assets in any governmental conflict (obviously sensitive operations like the defense industry is different). The real danger to nations long term economic well being is when you start "off-shoring" entire industries to other nations----THATS the real threat to a nations long term economic health.

There is absolutely no reason Russia cant be a wonderful ally and prosperous trading partner for the US and EU. The average westerner has way more in common with the people of Russia than we have differences. Its just a matter of overcoming the horrific and corrupt leadership of Russia so that the needs and desires of the Russian people actually drive the Russian government's agenda.

https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/.../index.amp

If this is accurate these losses are staggering and has definitely crippled Russia as a military might. I’ve been noticing the Kremlin has a blackout on reporting war casualties. Even if 75% correct this is UGLY.

I have to start wondering if Ukraine the second poorest country in Eurasia is worth it. Russia has become a real world testing ground for all of our latest and greatest super high tech military weaponry. It’s not a good look if you want the world to be believe you are a superpowe. I think not.

I did watch a video of Russian helicopters being shot down almost 100% of the time. All 12 in one clip. They are way to slow for the surface to air missiles. I would think military helicopters are a thing of the past. Almost certain you are going to be blown out of the sky. No thanks

(04-04-2022 02:45 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  First, we do business with everyone for the most part. We are capitalists. The US economy is a private enterprise affair----where privately owned business's are free to deal with whomever they wish unless the government specifically forbids it---and that type of forbidden sanction is a relatively rare occurrence.
Second--this "they were giving away the store" is just wrong. Russia is so corrupt, it was always going to be a messy dumpster fire during the switchover to capitalism. Thats said, the "they are giving away the store" stuff is silly. Back in the 80's everyone said "Japan is buying everything---they are going to own the entire US"----now everyone thinks China's going to the own US. Some people don't understand capitalism. Incoming investment in your economy is good. As long as the means of production physically remain in the US---it doesn't really matter where the investment comes from because the US ultimately maintains control of of those assets in a any governmental conflict (obviously sensitive operations like the defense industry is different). The real danger to nation's long term economic well being is when you start "off-shoring" entire industries to other nations----THATS the real threat to a nations long term economic health.
There is absolutely no reason Russia can't be a wonder ally and prosperous trading partner for the US and EU. The average westerner has way more in common with the people of Russia than we have differences. It's just a matter of overcoming the horrific and corrupt leadership of Russia so that the needs and desires of the Russian people actually drive the Russian government's agenda.

There is one reason. Our nameless, faceless national security and foreign policy bureaucracy (the "Blob" to insiders) has been pervaded by hatred of all things Russian for so long that they simply cannot think another way.

And our tax and regulatory policies have driven basic industries offshore for decades.

Those Russians just won’t take orders. What’s wrong with them? All they have to do is give up their entire government, economy, national interests, and become globalists. We just need them to get ONE more sip of the kool aid. They just don’t know what’s good for them. I mean, we said they could keep wearing the fur hats…

America has their best interests at heart. See the 1990s when they were all rich and happy.

(04-10-2022 07:42 AM)Todor Wrote:  Those Russians just won’t take orders. What’s wrong with them? All they have to do is give up their entire government, economy, national interests, and become globalists. We just need them to get ONE more sip of the kool aid. They just don’t know what’s good for them. I mean, we said they could keep wearing the fur hats…

America has their best interests at heart. See the 1990s when they were all rich and happy.

Pretty much got one right there Igore.

Russia is the bully with nukes. That is all. And the little guy decided to fight back and what have we got? The bully wears a skirt and kills women and children. You picked a fine bunch to stand up for Todor.

(04-09-2022 11:06 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/.../index.amp

If this is accurate these losses are staggering and has definitely crippled Russia as a military might. I’ve been noticing the Kremlin has a blackout on reporting war casualties. Even if 75% correct this is UGLY.

I have to start wondering if Ukraine the second poorest country in Eurasia is worth it. Russia has become a real world testing ground for all of our latest and greatest super high tech military weaponry. It’s not a good look if you want the world to be believe you are a superpowe. I think not.

I did watch a video of Russian helicopters being shot down almost 100% of the time. All 12 in one clip. They are way to slow for the surface to air missiles. I would think military helicopters are a thing of the past. Almost certain you are going to be blown out of the sky. No thanks

Ukraine is fully in Europe geographically, where it is the 2nd poorest country ahead of only Moldova. Using Eurasia adds in all the Asian countries, and Ukraine would then rank much better as several Asian countries are poorer. Ukraine ranks ahead of most of the Asian countries that were part of the former Soviet Union, among others.

I think you're right though that in terms of economy & resources, Ukraine certainly isn't worth what Russia is expending to try and control it. It is only the historical ties and proximity that make Ukraine such a target for Putin. And even with those I think he is as much or more interested in denying Ukraine to the West as he is in having it for Russia, which may provide the basis for a negotiated settlement eventually where Ukraine can become a neutral EU member outside of NATO like Austria or Finland is currently.

The next month, leading up to Russia's Victory Day on May 9, will be crucial -

https://www.axios.com/russia-may-9-deadl...4d66b.html

Russia is drafting Ukrainians to force them to fight for them.








"Russia boosts conscription efforts in Donbas region

BBC Monitoring

Russia has stepped up its "mobilisation" campaign in the eastern Donbas region and started to draft men who are not eligible for conscription, the Ukraine's military intelligence service has said on the online messaging platform, Telegram.

The agency said that employees of "strategic enterprises", who had previously been exempt from military service, were now being drafted.

It noted that the Russians plan to mobilise about 1,700 employees of the Alchevsk steelworks alone, and workers responsible for maintaining power lines were no longer off the hook for military service.

According to the Main Intelligence Directorate, several mobile brigades are operating in the self-proclaimed Luhansk People's Republic, where they stop men and issue them with a summons to come to a military enlistment office...."

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-61032786

(04-10-2022 04:30 PM)bullet Wrote:  Russia is drafting Ukrainians to force them to fight for them.








"Russia boosts conscription efforts in Donbas region

BBC Monitoring

Russia has stepped up its "mobilisation" campaign in the eastern Donbas region and started to draft men who are not eligible for conscription, the Ukraine's military intelligence service has said on the online messaging platform, Telegram.

The agency said that employees of "strategic enterprises", who had previously been exempt from military service, were now being drafted.

It noted that the Russians plan to mobilise about 1,700 employees of the Alchevsk steelworks alone, and workers responsible for maintaining power lines were no longer off the hook for military service.

According to the Main Intelligence Directorate, several mobile brigades are operating in the self-proclaimed Luhansk People's Republic, where they stop men and issue them with a summons to come to a military enlistment office...."

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-61032786

Separatist should have been more careful about what they wished for. Now they get to die for it.

14,000 died in the past 8 years getting bombed by Ukraine, which is what lead to this war. They have been fighting and dying just trying to survive. Pay attention people.

(04-10-2022 07:42 AM)Todor Wrote:  Those Russians just won’t take orders. What’s wrong with them? All they have to do is give up their entire government, economy, national interests, and become globalists. We just need them to get ONE more sip of the kool aid. They just don’t know what’s good for them. I mean, we said they could keep wearing the fur hats…

America has their best interests at heart. See the 1990s when they were all rich and happy.

If by "take orders," you mean, "keep their troops out of foreign countries that don't want them."


And before you say "Iraq," or "Bosnia" remember that US obtained approval from Russia and China (through the UN security council) for our actions in both of those wars.

(04-10-2022 05:53 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(04-10-2022 04:30 PM)bullet Wrote:  Russia is drafting Ukrainians to force them to fight for them.








"Russia boosts conscription efforts in Donbas region

BBC Monitoring

Russia has stepped up its "mobilisation" campaign in the eastern Donbas region and started to draft men who are not eligible for conscription, the Ukraine's military intelligence service has said on the online messaging platform, Telegram.

The agency said that employees of "strategic enterprises", who had previously been exempt from military service, were now being drafted.

It noted that the Russians plan to mobilise about 1,700 employees of the Alchevsk steelworks alone, and workers responsible for maintaining power lines were no longer off the hook for military service.

According to the Main Intelligence Directorate, several mobile brigades are operating in the self-proclaimed Luhansk People's Republic, where they stop men and issue them with a summons to come to a military enlistment office...."

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-61032786

Separatist should have been more careful about what they wished for. Now they get to die for it.

Many of them are not separatists. Could create real problems in their units.

(04-10-2022 08:13 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(04-10-2022 05:53 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(04-10-2022 04:30 PM)bullet Wrote:  Russia is drafting Ukrainians to force them to fight for them.








"Russia boosts conscription efforts in Donbas region

BBC Monitoring

Russia has stepped up its "mobilisation" campaign in the eastern Donbas region and started to draft men who are not eligible for conscription, the Ukraine's military intelligence service has said on the online messaging platform, Telegram.

The agency said that employees of "strategic enterprises", who had previously been exempt from military service, were now being drafted.

It noted that the Russians plan to mobilise about 1,700 employees of the Alchevsk steelworks alone, and workers responsible for maintaining power lines were no longer off the hook for military service.

According to the Main Intelligence Directorate, several mobile brigades are operating in the self-proclaimed Luhansk People's Republic, where they stop men and issue them with a summons to come to a military enlistment office...."

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-61032786

Separatist should have been more careful about what they wished for. Now they get to die for it.

Many of them are not separatists. Could create real problems in their units.

The longer this goes on the more the Russians look like the military is nothing more than patchwork with some heavy arsenal. Problem is if there is a lack of discipline which seems to be very apparent this is not going to be the outcome many thought before the first shot was fired. And, at this point other than some type of eastern Ukraine land grab there really is nothing to be gained from what I can tell unless Lucky Charms is hiding all his gold in Ukraine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vJoMqsekiM

I guess we need to spend some more money on Ukraine. We can say if Ukraine holds off Russia we did our part sending you enough sophisticated military weapons to defeat the 1970's style military campaign of the Russians. Its a good thing our Government has money to burn at our expense.