(02-12-2022 02:50 PM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  questions he needs to be ask:

1. what happened to all that stupid crap about taking teams from the Big 12

2. who was the idiot that forwarded the evidence of enticement and tampering with contracts by ESPN and the AAC to the members of the Big 12

3. has that idiot been fired yet

4. who was the idiot that went with "markets" and added north Texas state

1. The stupid talk is over because the moves hav3 been made.

2. None one did that because if the B12 had that they would have already a nice big fat new tv contract with ESPN

3. If such an idiot does exist he would had been given a raise by the B12

(02-12-2022 04:51 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  

(02-12-2022 02:50 PM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  questions he needs to be ask:

1. what happened to all that stupid crap about taking teams from the Big 12

2. who was the idiot that forwarded the evidence of enticement and tampering with contracts by ESPN and the AAC to the members of the Big 12

3. has that idiot been fired yet

4. who was the idiot that went with "markets" and added north Texas state

1. The stupid talk is over because the moves hav3 been made.

2. None one did that because if the B12 had that they would have already a nice big fat new tv contract with ESPN

3. If such an idiot does exist he would had been given a raise by the B12

why would the Big 12 give a raise to some dunce from the AAC that does not know how to use email?

(02-12-2022 05:56 PM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  

(02-12-2022 04:51 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  

(02-12-2022 02:50 PM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  questions he needs to be ask:

1. what happened to all that stupid crap about taking teams from the Big 12

2. who was the idiot that forwarded the evidence of enticement and tampering with contracts by ESPN and the AAC to the members of the Big 12

3. has that idiot been fired yet

4. who was the idiot that went with "markets" and added north Texas state

1. The stupid talk is over because the moves hav3 been made.

2. None one did that because if the B12 had that they would have already a nice big fat new tv contract with ESPN

3. If such an idiot does exist he would had been given a raise by the B12

why would the Big 12 give a raise to some dunce from the AAC that does not know how to use email?

Because if true it would have give them the ammunition to go after ESPN.

But anyways it’s more what if’s, water under the bridge, as long as the Big12 had P5 label they weren’t going to be raided by AAC. Only way that stood any chance was if the B12 had been raided to the point of imploding.

Didn’t happen so pointless

(02-12-2022 12:19 PM)shocknawe Wrote:  

(02-12-2022 10:12 AM)Pirate Rep Wrote:  

(02-11-2022 06:05 PM)shocknawe Wrote:  

(02-11-2022 05:34 PM)Pirate Rep Wrote:  

(02-11-2022 01:28 PM)shocknawe Wrote:  Honesty I can’t wait to play those schools, it’s embarrassing when your last game of the year is against ECU. I don’t mean to offend, it’s just true

Careful your lack of prospective is going to humble you. Don't let the door hit you in the butt joining up with the Lil brothers. If they don't leave before you get there.

Did u mean “perspective”? UC will be fine, don’t u worry about us. We are on to bigger and better things and I hope we never share a conference with ECU again!

As stated before I'm not worried one bit, then you decided to chime in with condescension. I'm very well aware of UC's football history as an ECU fan playing the Bearcats over the past 30 years. I hate to break it to you, but your no Notre Dame or USC historically. ECU fans didn't hit the internet arrogantly when we finished number 9 in the country beating UC for the sixth year in a row!

While you have had recent success remember your pedestal you place yourself on doesn't exist. Every dog has his day. Your only one bad administrative decision away from humility. It happens to ones especially that display arrogance and deservedly so.

Move on to your perceived greener pasture as we support your move. A thank you would be more appropriate and mature. That's a choice of character.

I prefer where we are happily and as stated before totally uninterested in Big12 football as most of the country is absent UT & OU. Smaller minds just haven't realized it yet. Karma & Pedestal's & Arrogance....soon hero

Baylor at #5 and ok at #7, yeah noone cared about that game in the big 12 race. TX hasn’t been relevant to the Big 12 race for years and has never been a factor in the playoff. People watched b/c the big 12 matters even without ok and tx in the championship. You should be thanking Cincy and UCF for making people even watch AAC football. ECU has done nothing to improve the AAC brand except diminish it
And BTW karma isn’t real , the world doesn’t work that way. Nice job on that # 7 ranking over 30 years ago. I believe u finished #9

The majority simply doesn't care about the names you mentioned nationally. Without Big brother they will all fall off because they can't recruit off playing them. The gorilla has exited the building. That's why all little brothers are distraught reaching out to the PAC 12. They are begging to leave no matter all the solidarity statements. We will see how long the relevance of your new league last after all the eyeballs leave. P4?

Yes ECU did finish 9th in the nation. I really didn't have anything against UC before you targeted my post. I pulled for them against Bama and other games as well. Not again. Thank you for giving me a reason to pull against UC in every sport you guys play.

My calendar is marked next year and we'll see who's embarrassed. Why doesn't UC try to dominate a sport in this league long term as only ECU has while it's players maintained a 3.41 GPA five regular seasons in a row? UC's team in that respective sport has been a complete annual embarrassment. You probably wouldn't know about that accomplishment because we've done it before, it's nothing new, and it's become expected. We don't have to brag about it. That is left to the team.

(02-12-2022 08:43 PM)Pirate Rep Wrote:  

(02-12-2022 12:19 PM)shocknawe Wrote:  

(02-12-2022 10:12 AM)Pirate Rep Wrote:  

(02-11-2022 06:05 PM)shocknawe Wrote:  

(02-11-2022 05:34 PM)Pirate Rep Wrote:  Careful your lack of prospective is going to humble you. Don't let the door hit you in the butt joining up with the Lil brothers. If they don't leave before you get there.

Did u mean “perspective”? UC will be fine, don’t u worry about us. We are on to bigger and better things and I hope we never share a conference with ECU again!

As stated before I'm not worried one bit, then you decided to chime in with condescension. I'm very well aware of UC's football history as an ECU fan playing the Bearcats over the past 30 years. I hate to break it to you, but your no Notre Dame or USC historically. ECU fans didn't hit the internet arrogantly when we finished number 9 in the country beating UC for the sixth year in a row!

While you have had recent success remember your pedestal you place yourself on doesn't exist. Every dog has his day. Your only one bad administrative decision away from humility. It happens to ones especially that display arrogance and deservedly so.

Move on to your perceived greener pasture as we support your move. A thank you would be more appropriate and mature. That's a choice of character.

I prefer where we are happily and as stated before totally uninterested in Big12 football as most of the country is absent UT & OU. Smaller minds just haven't realized it yet. Karma & Pedestal's & Arrogance....soon hero

Baylor at #5 and ok at #7, yeah noone cared about that game in the big 12 race. TX hasn’t been relevant to the Big 12 race for years and has never been a factor in the playoff. People watched b/c the big 12 matters even without ok and tx in the championship. You should be thanking Cincy and UCF for making people even watch AAC football. ECU has done nothing to improve the AAC brand except diminish it
And BTW karma isn’t real , the world doesn’t work that way. Nice job on that # 7 ranking over 30 years ago. I believe u finished #9

The majority simply doesn't care about the names you mentioned nationally. Without Big brother they will all fall off because they can't recruit off playing them. The gorilla has exited the building. That's why all little brothers are distraught reaching out to the PAC 12. They are begging to leave no matter all the solidarity statements. We will see how long the relevance of your new league last after all the eyeballs leave. P4?

Yes ECU did finish 9th in the nation. I really didn't have anything against UC before you targeted my post. I pulled for them against Bama and other games as well. Not again. Thank you for giving me a reason to pull against UC in every sport you guys play.

My calendar is marked next year and we'll see who's embarrassed. Why doesn't UC try to dominate a sport in this league long term as only ECU has while it's players maintained a 3.41 GPA five regular seasons in a row? UC's team in that respective sport has been a complete annual embarrassment. You probably wouldn't know about that accomplishment because we've done it before, it's nothing new, and it's become expected. We don't have to brag about it. That is left to the team.

I was following you for a few paragraphs then u just started making no sense. Can someone please read his full post and let me know what y’all think?

(02-01-2022 10:58 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  AAC Commissioner Mike Aresco was interviewed on "Full Ride" on SiriusXM Wednesday. I caught most of it while I was driving in to DC. I haven't found a link, but I spent some time on the app transcribing it.
Single spaced, my transcript of the 29 minutes starts an eighth page. And Childers and Neuheisel really only asked five questions.

The nature of Aresco's long expositions makes it hard to do even an edited rundown.

Here are my highlights of it, though.

First, after initial greetings, Childers' opening question kind of backs up one thing I've said - the P6 narrative was sinking in with national media, rather than just being something for fanbois on this board.

Childers: "You've had a mission statement, you've been preaching for years about the quality of the league, I think the results certainly back it up, how pleased is the league office right now?"
Pulling P6 quotes from Aresco's first response:
Aresco: "...And clearly we're reaching that point when we could really really push hard on the P6 narrative and then of course in the summer you had the Texas Oklahoma move and I knew that would affect us. It's a shame though that ultimately we weren't an official P6 almost from the beginning...
...we don't have quite the TV deal that they have, although we have a good one obviously a very very good one, much closer to the five than the other four and but yet the three schools that are leaving felt that this whole P5 designation was important to them and why wouldn't they think that, and also the greener pastures maybe thinking they would get more money..."

Aresco gave each of the six future additions a positive mention, and "Those schools will benefit. And in addition to the revenue, there will be far more revenue for them, and they'll be able to spend that on recruiting and facilities and student-athlete health and welfare, so I think in the end it's going to elevate them, and I think they're pretty excited about that."

Aresco was as usual complimentary of the departing teams.
Aresco: "Obviously it's tough to replace teams like that, because five of our last six New Year's appearances have been those teams." And later, "But we've enjoyed having Houston Cincinnati UCF in the conference and we've helped them with the platforms we've provided so its been a good relationship and if it continues another couple of years that's totally fine. If it doesn't and we can negotiate a settlement, then what you said holds true - we have a chance to rebrand a little quicker." And then near the end, "Certainly for years, UCF had tremendous teams, Houston had tremendous teams, Cincinnati last year -- Cincinnati's team last year might have been as good or better than this year's team..."

That middle one above was in response to Neuheisel asking about timelines of realigning. A little more of that exchange --
Neuheisel: It seems to me, Mike, and tell me if I'm reading this wrong, that you'd like this to happen quicker than later, sooner than later, where Bob Bowlsby of the Big 12 is trying to hold on to Oklahoma and Texas for as long as he can, unless they're willing to cough up the money that is required for their early exit. Am I reading that correctly? For you, would you rather have this happen quicker so that the college football fan can get reacclimated to what is the new look of the American Conference?
Aresco: Well, with our bylaws we have to be careful Rick... We have to be careful because our bylaws require those schools to stay until July 1 2024 and at this point i don't know what ultimately they're gonna do. Clearly if things move faster and they might, if they make a request to leave for a little earlier we would certainly negotiate that.
You can rebrand a little quicker. In 2013 we decided that we would want to move on pretty quickly and rebrand rather than have people talking about schools that were planning to leave.
But we've enjoyed having Houston Cincinnati UCF in the conference and we've helped them with the platforms we've provided so its been a good relationship and if it continues another couple of years that's totally fine. If it doesn't and we can negotiate a settlement, then what you said holds true - we have a chance to rebrand a little quicker.

He talked a lot about the Playoff discussions:
- "...one thing I'll say at the outset, is that everybody in the room I really like. And I think, people talk about the differences of opinion, this and that. There is collegiality (no pun intended) in the room. On the other hand, there have been some pretty sharp exchanges because there have to be, but they're direct, and people -- just like realignment half the people in the room have been subject to realignment; we've all taken our bruises and delivered some too and it's unfortunate-- and yet we get along."
- "One, we have this 5+1 business. Kevin has been out there publically, Kevin Warren, talking about 5+1. That's a complete non-starter for us. It just is. It's not the way you run a playoff."
- "We have to, you know, we're fighting hard and we've been pretty adamant about it, and we have support among the "P5" and you could argue they're voting against their self-interest, but really what they're voting for is basic fairness, for equality. They don't feel that there should be this kind of advantage. Greg Sankey and Bob Bowlsby and Jack Swarbrick who represents Notre Dame they were on the small working group that came up with this plan. And they've been steadfast in their support, and I really admire the fact that they've done that..."
- "The issue for us, the issues that the ACC has cited, the NIL situation is unsettled and it really is the Wild West right now; you have the transfer portal and it's just really messy right now and there should probably be some structure to that; the Transformation Committee, Division I how it will be structured in the future. To me, those things are going to be there in a year, two years, three years. They may be there for a long, long time before they get settled, if they ever get settled to everyone's satisfaction and maybe they never will because people will always have differences. But that to me, that doesn't relate to the playoff, to me those issues are going to be there."
- "But something I want to clarify: we are trying to get something for the future Year 13 and beyond, 2026 and beyond. Whether we do a three year deal, six year deal, nine year deal, twelve, whatever. It's a new platform, it's a new protocol for the playoff. The only issue is once we've arrived at something, agreed on something, whether we could move it earlier, whether we could try to implement it a little earlier, in years 11-12, '24 '25."

There's more, lots more. But those are some of the soundbites that got my attention as I was battling DC traffic.

A LOT of overlap of his CFP expansion talking points in that interview and the new "Open Letter."
http://theamerican.org/news/2022/2/14/an...tball.aspx