(01-18-2022 02:42 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  

(01-18-2022 02:38 PM)mainejeff Wrote:  So you guys are saying that Stony Brook, Monmouth and Hampton are coming because UNCW advocated for them?

Mainejeff is a prime example of the dumbing down of America.
Where in the world do you come up with such drivel?

The dumbing down of America is squarely rooted in the fly over states.

(01-18-2022 03:01 PM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(01-18-2022 02:38 PM)mainejeff Wrote:  So you guys are saying that Stony Brook, Monmouth and Hampton are coming because UNCW advocated for them?

Drugs are bad.

Mmmmmmmkay?


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Agreed. Tell all of the toothless meth heads in Appalachia!

(01-18-2022 04:31 PM)82hawk Wrote:  

(01-18-2022 02:38 PM)mainejeff Wrote:  So you guys are saying that Stony Brook, Monmouth and Hampton are coming because UNCW advocated for them?

They are coming because the CAA is desperate to hold itself together and there are no southern schools interested in the conference. The "northern" shift of the CAA is bringing about its' demise. It will be nothing more than a glorfied AE in the near future.

Amen brotha!

(01-19-2022 11:54 AM)mainejeff Wrote:  

(01-18-2022 02:42 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  

(01-18-2022 02:38 PM)mainejeff Wrote:  So you guys are saying that Stony Brook, Monmouth and Hampton are coming because UNCW advocated for them?

Mainejeff is a prime example of the dumbing down of America.
Where in the world do you come up with such drivel?

The dumbing down of America is squarely rooted in the fly over states.

Sure, it hasn't yet reached the metropolis of Maine.

Reality check.....W&M is not "with" UNCW. They are squarely aligned with Delaware, football and "Northern" interests. They were thrown a bone in Hampton which also added another "all-sports" football member......that is the ultimate direction for the CAA now.....all-sport members that have football. Look for the CAA to go hard after Howard. Not sure who #14 all-sports will be if it comes to that.

(01-19-2022 11:59 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  

(01-19-2022 11:54 AM)mainejeff Wrote:  

(01-18-2022 02:42 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  

(01-18-2022 02:38 PM)mainejeff Wrote:  So you guys are saying that Stony Brook, Monmouth and Hampton are coming because UNCW advocated for them?

Mainejeff is a prime example of the dumbing down of America.
Where in the world do you come up with such drivel?

The dumbing down of America is squarely rooted in the fly over states.

Sure, it hasn't yet reached the metropolis of Maine.

So you think that "metro" and education go hand in hand? It's more about well funded schools, high school graduation rates and family dynamics.....how's the South doing with this?

I always appreciate a reality check Jeff. Good luck to the Bears basketball. I'm pulling for you and sincerely hope that you're able to beat a D1 team before the season's end.

(01-19-2022 12:28 PM)mainejeff Wrote:  

(01-19-2022 11:59 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  

(01-19-2022 11:54 AM)mainejeff Wrote:  

(01-18-2022 02:42 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  

(01-18-2022 02:38 PM)mainejeff Wrote:  So you guys are saying that Stony Brook, Monmouth and Hampton are coming because UNCW advocated for them?

Mainejeff is a prime example of the dumbing down of America.
Where in the world do you come up with such drivel?

The dumbing down of America is squarely rooted in the fly over states.

Sure, it hasn't yet reached the metropolis of Maine.

So you think that "metro" and education go hand in hand? It's more about well funded schools, high school graduation rates and family dynamics.....how's the South doing with this?

I'm not equating metro and education. You called out flyover states, which commonly refers to rural areas between more heavily populated metros. That seemed ironic coming from someone representing the state of Maine. I suppose that was supposed to be a shot at North Carolina, but then again, surely an educated man like yourself realizes NC isn't a flyover state.

Why does someone who disparages the South spend time soliciting opinions from those at a southern university?

(01-19-2022 12:42 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:  

(01-19-2022 12:28 PM)mainejeff Wrote:  

(01-19-2022 11:59 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  

(01-19-2022 11:54 AM)mainejeff Wrote:  

(01-18-2022 02:42 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  Mainejeff is a prime example of the dumbing down of America.
Where in the world do you come up with such drivel?

The dumbing down of America is squarely rooted in the fly over states.

Sure, it hasn't yet reached the metropolis of Maine.

So you think that "metro" and education go hand in hand? It's more about well funded schools, high school graduation rates and family dynamics.....how's the South doing with this?

I'm not equating metro and education. You called out flyover states, which commonly refers to rural areas between more heavily populated metros. That seemed ironic coming from someone representing the state of Maine. I suppose that was supposed to be a shot at North Carolina, but then again, surely an educated man like yourself realizes NC isn't a flyover state.

Why does someone who disparages the South spend time soliciting opinions from those at a southern university?

As someone who grew up in the Northeast, spent significant time in Maine and has lived in NC for 22 years, you can keep Maine sir. I'll take the South's quality of life any day of the week. Might want to travel out of the Northeast every now and then, it's a whole new world out there.

(01-19-2022 12:32 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:  I always appreciate a reality check Jeff. Good luck to the Bears basketball. I'm pulling for you and sincerely hope that you're able to beat a D1 team before the season's end.

Touche.

(01-19-2022 12:42 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:  

(01-19-2022 12:28 PM)mainejeff Wrote:  

(01-19-2022 11:59 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  

(01-19-2022 11:54 AM)mainejeff Wrote:  

(01-18-2022 02:42 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  Mainejeff is a prime example of the dumbing down of America.
Where in the world do you come up with such drivel?

The dumbing down of America is squarely rooted in the fly over states.

Sure, it hasn't yet reached the metropolis of Maine.

So you think that "metro" and education go hand in hand? It's more about well funded schools, high school graduation rates and family dynamics.....how's the South doing with this?

I'm not equating metro and education. You called out flyover states, which commonly refers to rural areas between more heavily populated metros. That seemed ironic coming from someone representing the state of Maine. I suppose that was supposed to be a shot at North Carolina, but then again, surely an educated man like yourself realizes NC isn't a flyover state.

Why does someone who disparages the South spend time soliciting opinions from those at a southern university?

I'm just answering your barbs....fly over states have the highest degree of FoxNews fanatics/Trumpism (ie dumbing down of America).....The South has a long history of underfunding and undervaluing education compared to the Northeast....a smart man like yourself knows that maine is the Northeast. Obviously "Southern" states like Virgina and NC value education more than states in the Deep South. And we all know about the drug problems in Appalachia....it is well documented. I only keep responding as long as you keep trolling me and disparaging Maine.

All I'd really like to talk about is conference upheaval which currently affects both UNCW and Maine.....I'm not here to just troll. And I'm sorry if some of my opinion don't jive with yours....sometimes it is good to get an outsiders perspective.

(01-19-2022 12:49 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(01-19-2022 12:42 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:  

(01-19-2022 12:28 PM)mainejeff Wrote:  

(01-19-2022 11:59 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  

(01-19-2022 11:54 AM)mainejeff Wrote:  The dumbing down of America is squarely rooted in the fly over states.

Sure, it hasn't yet reached the metropolis of Maine.

So you think that "metro" and education go hand in hand? It's more about well funded schools, high school graduation rates and family dynamics.....how's the South doing with this?

I'm not equating metro and education. You called out flyover states, which commonly refers to rural areas between more heavily populated metros. That seemed ironic coming from someone representing the state of Maine. I suppose that was supposed to be a shot at North Carolina, but then again, surely an educated man like yourself realizes NC isn't a flyover state.

Why does someone who disparages the South spend time soliciting opinions from those at a southern university?

As someone who grew up in the Northeast, spent significant time in Maine and has lived in NC for 22 years, you can keep Maine sir. I'll take the South's quality of life any day of the week. Might want to travel out of the Northeast every now and then, it's a whole new world out there.

I lived in San Diego from 1999-2012.....and also in Tennessee for about a year. Is that enough for you?

Our weather sucks from November-March....I'll give you that. Honestly I think that everything East of the Rockies sucks weatherwise.....except the Southeast in the spring...and the Northeast in the summer/early fall.

I'm not surprised that someone from the South dislikes the Northeast....it's a different world. I would not be able to live in the South....the West Coast is the place to be.

I would think High Point would love to join the CAA. Their whole model is attracting kids from the Northeast . Having a conference with such a large NE presence would be great for their recruitment of students

(01-19-2022 12:55 PM)mainejeff Wrote:  

(01-19-2022 12:42 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:  

(01-19-2022 12:28 PM)mainejeff Wrote:  

(01-19-2022 11:59 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  

(01-19-2022 11:54 AM)mainejeff Wrote:  The dumbing down of America is squarely rooted in the fly over states.

Sure, it hasn't yet reached the metropolis of Maine.

So you think that "metro" and education go hand in hand? It's more about well funded schools, high school graduation rates and family dynamics.....how's the South doing with this?

I'm not equating metro and education. You called out flyover states, which commonly refers to rural areas between more heavily populated metros. That seemed ironic coming from someone representing the state of Maine. I suppose that was supposed to be a shot at North Carolina, but then again, surely an educated man like yourself realizes NC isn't a flyover state.

Why does someone who disparages the South spend time soliciting opinions from those at a southern university?

I'm just answering your barbs....fly over states have the highest degree of FoxNews fanatics/Trumpism (ie dumbing down of America).....The South has a long history of underfunding and undervaluing education compared to the Northeast....a smart man like yourself knows that maine is the Northeast. Obviously "Southern" states like Virgina and NC value education more than states in the Deep South. And we all know about the drug problems in Appalachia....it is well documented. I only keep responding as long as you keep trolling me and disparaging Maine.

All I'd really like to talk about is conference upheaval which currently affects both UNCW and Maine.....I'm not here to just troll. And I'm sorry if some of my opinion don't jive with yours....sometimes it is good to get an outsiders perspective.

Fair enough. I don't think I've thrown any barbs personally, other than calling Maine rural (which hardly feels like an insult). I don't have any insight on the conference upheaval. Interested for sure, but I'm not connected and TBH, I had forgotten that Maine was a football member.

Feels like UNCW is blindfolded, along for the ride and hoping for the best. Pretty bleak outlook as far as I can tell.

(01-19-2022 01:00 PM)mainejeff Wrote:  

(01-19-2022 12:49 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(01-19-2022 12:42 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:  

(01-19-2022 12:28 PM)mainejeff Wrote:  

(01-19-2022 11:59 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  Sure, it hasn't yet reached the metropolis of Maine.

So you think that "metro" and education go hand in hand? It's more about well funded schools, high school graduation rates and family dynamics.....how's the South doing with this?

I'm not equating metro and education. You called out flyover states, which commonly refers to rural areas between more heavily populated metros. That seemed ironic coming from someone representing the state of Maine. I suppose that was supposed to be a shot at North Carolina, but then again, surely an educated man like yourself realizes NC isn't a flyover state.

Why does someone who disparages the South spend time soliciting opinions from those at a southern university?

As someone who grew up in the Northeast, spent significant time in Maine and has lived in NC for 22 years, you can keep Maine sir. I'll take the South's quality of life any day of the week. Might want to travel out of the Northeast every now and then, it's a whole new world out there.

I lived in San Diego from 1999-2012.....and also in Tennessee for about a year. Is that enough for you?

Our weather sucks from November-March....I'll give you that. Honestly I think that everything East of the Rockies sucks weatherwise.....except the Southeast in the spring...and the Northeast in the summer/early fall.

I'm not surprised that someone from the South dislikes the Northeast....it's a different world. I would not be able to live in the South....the West Coast is the place to be.

Then I question the sanity of why you went back. Have a handful of friends in the same boat and I just don't get it. And, you couldn't pay me enough to live in Cali, yeah the weather is nice but that place should be an entirely different country. And the reason people are fleeing at an alarming rate to places like AZ and Texas. But, that's not a matter for discussion here.

(01-19-2022 01:00 PM)mainejeff Wrote:  

(01-19-2022 12:49 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(01-19-2022 12:42 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:  

(01-19-2022 12:28 PM)mainejeff Wrote:  

(01-19-2022 11:59 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  Sure, it hasn't yet reached the metropolis of Maine.

So you think that "metro" and education go hand in hand? It's more about well funded schools, high school graduation rates and family dynamics.....how's the South doing with this?

I'm not equating metro and education. You called out flyover states, which commonly refers to rural areas between more heavily populated metros. That seemed ironic coming from someone representing the state of Maine. I suppose that was supposed to be a shot at North Carolina, but then again, surely an educated man like yourself realizes NC isn't a flyover state.

Why does someone who disparages the South spend time soliciting opinions from those at a southern university?

As someone who grew up in the Northeast, spent significant time in Maine and has lived in NC for 22 years, you can keep Maine sir. I'll take the South's quality of life any day of the week. Might want to travel out of the Northeast every now and then, it's a whole new world out there.

I lived in San Diego from 1999-2012.....and also in Tennessee for about a year. Is that enough for you?

Our weather sucks from November-March....I'll give you that. Honestly I think that everything East of the Rockies sucks weatherwise.....except the Southeast in the spring...and the Northeast in the summer/early fall.

I'm not surprised that someone from the South dislikes the Northeast....it's a different world. I would not be able to live in the South....the West Coast is the place to be.

The weather in North Carolina from October-December last year was near perfect too, and Florida in the winter is pretty nice. It's not San Diego, but culturally, a better fit for most from the SE.

I don't have disdain for the NE. My wife and in-laws are from there; Raleigh has lost most of it's Southern roots. In my daily routine, I encounter as many Yankee transplants as I do native North Carolinians.

MaineJeff, make your points without infusing politics and/or divisive media rhetoric.

That’s your warning.


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(01-19-2022 01:11 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:  

(01-19-2022 01:00 PM)mainejeff Wrote:  

(01-19-2022 12:49 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(01-19-2022 12:42 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:  

(01-19-2022 12:28 PM)mainejeff Wrote:  So you think that "metro" and education go hand in hand? It's more about well funded schools, high school graduation rates and family dynamics.....how's the South doing with this?

I'm not equating metro and education. You called out flyover states, which commonly refers to rural areas between more heavily populated metros. That seemed ironic coming from someone representing the state of Maine. I suppose that was supposed to be a shot at North Carolina, but then again, surely an educated man like yourself realizes NC isn't a flyover state.

Why does someone who disparages the South spend time soliciting opinions from those at a southern university?

As someone who grew up in the Northeast, spent significant time in Maine and has lived in NC for 22 years, you can keep Maine sir. I'll take the South's quality of life any day of the week. Might want to travel out of the Northeast every now and then, it's a whole new world out there.

I lived in San Diego from 1999-2012.....and also in Tennessee for about a year. Is that enough for you?

Our weather sucks from November-March....I'll give you that. Honestly I think that everything East of the Rockies sucks weatherwise.....except the Southeast in the spring...and the Northeast in the summer/early fall.

I'm not surprised that someone from the South dislikes the Northeast....it's a different world. I would not be able to live in the South....the West Coast is the place to be.

. In my daily routine, I encounter as many Yankee transplants as I do native North Carolinians.

Yep! There are some smart ones that leave as soon as they can . I left 2 months after graduating undergrad! Couldn't get out fast enough. Agree the weather was pretty great here until the last 10 days or so, hell we were at the beach on boat New years weekend and it was nearly 70.

To add to Brick’s points about Maine NOT being anything close to a metropolis…

The following should be pointed out:

1. Maine is essentially southeastern Canada, geographically.

2. The total population of Maine according to 2019 data was less than 1.4 million… in the entire state.

3. According to https://bangordailynews.com/2012/03/26/n...ationwide/ … Maine is the MOST RURAL of the 50 states. That’s quite impressive given the land area of states like Texas, and Alaska.

I’ve been to Maine. It’s beautiful, but it’s not the typical “Northeastern” state, and attempting to lump Maine in with the likes of Massachusetts, Delaware, NJ, Pennsylvania, New York, etc is laughable. Maine is more like an eastern version of Montana… except it’s more RURAL.

In essence, Maine is the southern hillbilly version of Canadians. Congrats Jeff, ya done played yourself son.


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(01-19-2022 11:06 AM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(01-19-2022 10:16 AM)solohawks Wrote:  

(01-19-2022 10:09 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  

(01-19-2022 09:57 AM)solohawks Wrote:  

(01-19-2022 09:36 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  I don't have an opinion about Winthrop, but if we're raiding the Big South why Winthrop over UNCA or NC A&T? Is Winthrop significant to CoC for any reason? Maybe they tap into the Charlotte market, but do they really?

I would say all in all Winthrop has been the most consistent basketball success in the Big South. Winthrop has 11 Big South Championships, the next closest in UNC Ashville with 5. Being near Charlotte is nice to, though i don't have any delusions about them making a major impact in that media market. Winthrop would also serve as a better travel partner for Charleston, allowing us to partner with Campbell, making travel a bit easier for all.

Appreciate the feedback. I wasn't familiar with Winthrop's basketball success. That is probably the most appealing to me out of all of the potential benefits. I hope that W&M and CoC are tied with us, whether it be in the CAA or in an unexpected scenario where we join the SoCon.

Winthrop and Campbell are arguably the top 2 baseball schools in the Big South now the Coastal is gone

A division of W&M, Hampton, Elon, Campbell, UNCW, Winthrop, and Charleston just makes sense to me looking around at the layout of everything.

Towson should be in the north

A conference and/or division with Hampton and Campbell in it doesn’t make sense to me at all. It’s trash.

Accepting a trash conference means we don’t have any self respect as a school, and to me is overall unsatisfactory.

UNCW, CofC, and WM all need to be making a concerted effort to get out of this conference. Trying to appease these schools by adding a school like Hampton is one of the worst moves I’ve ever seen. Campbell isn’t much better either. Adding Winthrop doesn’t move the meter for me at all.

Best option is to get out of the CAA at all costs, because the leadership of the conference is horrid at best.


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Great stump speech

Whats your solution

MaineJeff is likely right that W&M is very happy in the CAA

Longest tenured member
Access to northeast without ultra burdensome travel
Center of the new South division
Best FCS football conference with their buddy Richmond
Houses all of their sports except Gymnatics
Have a great home for Lacrosse should they ever want to add it

Why would they join the SoCon?