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My initial post was in response to someone suggest he is a Hall Of Famer...so that was a historical context, a context in which he is average by comparison. Congrats to Zach, great guy, great neighbor, worked his ass off for years to get where he is now. Him being a historically average QB and him being the highest paid QB in the league can both be correct...after all, Dak Prescott and Jared Goff were the highest earners in the NFL in 2019-20 and Joe Flacco and Carson Palmer were in the same position 4 years before that. Agree to disagree.

(01-24-2022 09:05 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  My initial post was in response to someone suggest he is a Hall Of Famer...so that was a historical context, a context in which he is average by comparison. Congrats to Zach, great guy, great neighbor, worked his ass off for years to get where he is now. Him being a historically average QB and him being the highest paid QB in the league can both be correct...after all, Dak Prescott and Jared Goff were the highest earners in the NFL in 2019-20 and Joe Flacco and Carson Palmer were in the same position 4 years before that. Agree to disagree.

Well their teams didn't sign them to the highest paying contracts in the league because they thought they were "average" QBs. If they thought they were "average" (however you seem to want to define it) at that time, they would have signed them to more "average" contracts. Instead, they signed them to those huge 2nd or later contracts because they thought they were outstanding QBs relative to other QBs in the league at that time based upon their performance. Whether they later lived up to that moving forward is irrelevant to them being considered much better than "average" at that point in time. But I'll live with agree to disagree if that's where we are at this point.

(01-24-2022 09:05 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  My initial post was in response to someone suggest he is a Hall Of Famer...so that was a historical context, a context in which he is average by comparison. Congrats to Zach, great guy, great neighbor, worked his ass off for years to get where he is now. Him being a historically average QB and him being the highest paid QB in the league can both be correct...after all, Dak Prescott and Jared Goff were the highest earners in the NFL in 2019-20 and Joe Flacco and Carson Palmer were in the same position 4 years before that. Agree to disagree.

Maybe he's average, but he also won two Grey Cups as a starter and won an MVP.


He also has a top-10 career passing completion percentage and led the league in passer rating in 2016 and 2021. The league is less pass-heavy these days, but players are usually judged against their peers. For example, the MLB HOF inducted both Pedro Martinez & Roy Halladay on their very first year of eligibility even though both had fewer than 220 career wins.


Further, the CFL has lower standards for its Hall of Fame than the NFL. The NFL's Hall of Fame has only 9% more members (346) than the CFL Hall of Fame (316) despite existing for 60% longer (1920 versus 1958) and having three times as many teams for the majority of the CFL's existence.