That Magnificent Orange Bastard.

It makes you wonder if the guy really is going to run again in 24 or if he is just fuking with dems for fun?

I for one don't want him back in that seat. I agree with a lot of if not the vast majority of his ideas, but he is so polarizing that the chaos that comes with it is just not worth it. DeSantis is Trump-lite and while some degree of the Trump chaos would follow him, he seems more level headed and diplomatic to handle it.

Personally I would like to see Conservatives draft Ron Desantis for the Presidential race. That would give DJT the opportunity to run for a seat in the House. I would love to see him slaughter some of the sacred cows in Congress.

(01-06-2022 04:15 PM)Eldonabe Wrote:  It makes you wonder if the guy really is going to run again in 24 or if he is just fuking with dems for fun?

I for one don't want him back in that seat. I agree with a lot of if not the vast majority of his ideas, but he is so polarizing that the chaos that comes with it is just not worth it. DeSantis is Trump-lite and while some degree of the Trump chaos would follow him, he seems more level headed and diplomatic to handle it.

His chaos isn't that big a deal. He still got things done. The problem is that he fires up the Democrats to go out and vote, sometimes 2 or 3 times. If they can grab some nursing home or homeless shelter absentee ballots, maybe 80 or 90 times. If they run the vote counting machines, maybe thousands of times.

Trump needs to finish what he started in 2024.

Somebody competent is going to have to clean up after grandpa fubar and his band of idiotic commie morons.

(01-06-2022 04:15 PM)Eldonabe Wrote:  It makes you wonder if the guy really is going to run again in 24 or if he is just fuking with dems for fun?

I for one don't want him back in that seat. I agree with a lot of if not the vast majority of his ideas, but he is so polarizing that the chaos that comes with it is just not worth it. DeSantis is Trump-lite and while some degree of the Trump chaos would follow him, he seems more level headed and diplomatic to handle it.

I'll take "polarizing" over ANY democrat, any day of the week. Who in the democrat bullpen would be anything but polarizing? Biden is the epitome of it.

Honest ???

First, I was never much of a Trump fan. Didn't vote for him in the Va primary, but did in the general as there was no other choice.

Was VERY pleasantly surprised with the path he followed once in office. Didn't think trade tariffs and closed borders would work, I was wrong. Tough on the commie chinese worked, same as NK (din't see that coming) even tough on the freeloading NATO folks. We're largely in a much more secure and better place today for it. Bit's N pieces being gone from the face of the earth is a good thing for us as well. Abraham accords and dropping the ridiculous and extortionist Iran deal with the moolahs seemed far fetched as well, but guess what? Being independent in our energy resources? Sign me back up tomorrow..

So, that said. Someone tell me why the Drumpf was so polarizing TO THEM?
Aside from being a braggadocios NY playboy that's been puffing himself up on Howard Stern, Playboy or SNL for decades, or his trash talking comment on a bus about "They let you grab them by the fuzzy", what was he so offensive to the leftists about?

Policy, not personality? I'd love to hear it.

Tell me, are we better off today than we were a year ago? Please make your case.

Biden is getting worse. He is having trouble pronouncing words properly.

It really doesn't matter who the Republicans push for president the Demons will always find something "POLARIZING" about him/her. It's all just dirty politics that the Demons play. Look at Schemer who is saying that they don't like him because he's a Jew. Heck, I wonder if he even goes to a synogogue on their temple day, which I think is on Saturdays, I might be wrong. He's out there dancing with that queer not funny late night host whatever his name is,
Cogburn or something. Sorry, I don't watch those fools on tv, my tv would explode.

(01-06-2022 04:15 PM)Eldonabe Wrote:  It makes you wonder if the guy really is going to run again in 24 or if he is just fuking with dems for fun?

I for one don't want him back in that seat. I agree with a lot of if not the vast majority of his ideas, but he is so polarizing that the chaos that comes with it is just not worth it. DeSantis is Trump-lite and while some degree of the Trump chaos would follow him, he seems more level headed and diplomatic to handle it.

Eldonabe speaks for me. Bullet and Cardinal Jim somewhat also. And they manage to do so without pissing the rest of you off. Clearly, they all are much better posters than I, and perhaps I should just go the way of the rest of the dissenters on this board and let everyone peacefully enjoy an uninterrupted circle around pictures of the M.O.B.

But I do sometimes wonder why you guys, who I know for the most part to be smart people, think that Donald Trump in 2024 is anything other than a ticket to disaster.

JMU Duke: Are we better off now than we were a year ago? Of course not. The nation is heading over a progressive cliff. Yet how does that lead you (along with B.C. and Tiger) to the completely illogical conclusion that Donald Trump is the best candidate to run in 2024? He’s the idiot who lost what should have been a shoo-in reelection.

Ollie, have you not been watching DeSantis gracefully bat away every lie, cheap shot and slur directed his way? He is 100 times more effective as a politician and communicator than Donald Trump. Ron DeSantis absolutely obliterated AOC and the rest of the leftist hypocrites who have attempted to take him on. He’s done so with facts, with humor and with real accomplishments. There are plenty of others who could do just as well. Donald Trump? The only tool in his rhetorical box is name calling.

Shere Kahn, do you honestly think that Donald Trump wrote that statement? If you do, then there really is no discussing things with you. You just keep on waving those pom poms. I’m sure Donald loves you too.

(01-06-2022 08:53 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(01-06-2022 04:15 PM)Eldonabe Wrote:  It makes you wonder if the guy really is going to run again in 24 or if he is just fuking with dems for fun?

I for one don't want him back in that seat. I agree with a lot of if not the vast majority of his ideas, but he is so polarizing that the chaos that comes with it is just not worth it. DeSantis is Trump-lite and while some degree of the Trump chaos would follow him, he seems more level headed and diplomatic to handle it.

Eldonabe speaks for me. Bullet and Cardinal Jim somewhat also. And they manage to do so without pissing the rest of you off. Clearly, they all are much better posters than I, and perhaps I should just go the way of the rest of the dissenters on this board and let everyone peacefully enjoy an uninterrupted circle around pictures of the M.O.B.

But I do sometimes wonder why you guys, who I know for the most part to be smart people, think that Donald Trump in 2024 is anything other than a ticket to disaster.

JMU Duke: Are we better off now than we were a year ago? Of course not. The nation is heading over a progressive cliff. Yet how does that lead you (along with B.C. and Tiger) to the completely illogical conclusion that Donald Trump is the best candidate to run in 2024? He’s the idiot who lost what should have been a shoo-in reelection.

Ollie, have you not been watching DeSantis gracefully bat away every lie, cheap shot and slur directed his way? He is 100 times more effective as a politician and communicator than Donald Trump. Ron DeSantis absolutely obliterated AOC and the rest of the leftist hypocrites who have attempted to take him on. He’s done so with facts, with humor and with real accomplishments. There are plenty of others who could do just as well. Donald Trump? The only tool in his rhetorical box is name calling.

Shere Kahn, do you honestly think that Donald Trump wrote that statement? If you do, then there really is no discussing things with you. You just keep on waving those pom poms. I’m sure Donald loves you too.

Nobody likes Trump that damn much but any democrat he might run against will be a nightmare like Biden. I mainly like him because he pisses the right people off.

Y'all are the cooler heads that prevail but it's a breath of fresh air to finally have someone with balls to tell these freaks to piss off.

I see what you see when it comes to Trump but the Republicans are big pu__ies and need more like him.

So let me piss the filth off using him because they need it. Somebody needs to do the dirty work.



It does not take a majority to prevail ... but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men.
Samuel Adams

(01-06-2022 04:15 PM)Eldonabe Wrote:  It makes you wonder if the guy really is going to run again in 24 or if he is just fuking with dems for fun?

I for one don't want him back in that seat. I agree with a lot of if not the vast majority of his ideas, but he is so polarizing that the chaos that comes with it is just not worth it. DeSantis is Trump-lite and while some degree of the Trump chaos would follow him, he seems more level headed and diplomatic to handle it.

https://twitter.com/therecount/status/14...1303227392

one man one vote ...

WHO CARES

What people seem to forget is the biggest obstacle to Trump when he got into office was the Republicans. They all promised the world and when Trump won they backed into their shells. And Trump got more votes than any other Incumbent President in the history of our country.

(01-06-2022 04:15 PM)Eldonabe Wrote:  It makes you wonder if the guy really is going to run again in 24 or if he is just fuking with dems for fun?

I for one don't want him back in that seat. I agree with a lot of if not the vast majority of his ideas, but he is so polarizing that the chaos that comes with it is just not worth it. DeSantis is Trump-lite and while some degree of the Trump chaos would follow him, he seems more level headed and diplomatic to handle it.

https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1479116665837146118

palpable sense of loss ...

LOVE TRUMPS HATE

Honestly, I love that Donald Trump is a fighter and refuses to take crap from the media, I also hate that Donald Trump can’t leave even the slightest sling alone and just slough it off sometimes.

Trump is a smart man and on the international stage was feared enough that the despots didn’t much mess with him. He wanted government out of the way for business to prosper…and it did.

With that said, he will be 78 by 2024 and face it, is extremely polarizing. Right now the Democrats “passion” for 2022 and 2024 isn’t good. I’d like them to remain dispirited. The name Trump on the ticket in 2024 will energize them - he is their bogeyman…

That is why I’d prefer DeSantis in 2024.

Now, the leftist media will attempt to destroy him just the same as Trump, but thus far he has been much more adept at handling the slings and arrows………

The prog filth disappear and the mealy mouths start chirping.

Good grief. The election was stolen. People are pissed. If it's Trump, its Trump. If not, anyone but a damn prog filth democrat.

Until democrats regain some modicum of sanity, they are the enemy

It's that simple

(01-06-2022 04:15 PM)Eldonabe Wrote:  It makes you wonder if the guy really is going to run again in 24 or if he is just fuking with dems for fun?

I for one don't want him back in that seat. I agree with a lot of if not the vast majority of his ideas, but he is so polarizing that the chaos that comes with it is just not worth it. DeSantis is Trump-lite and while some degree of the Trump chaos would follow him, he seems more level headed and diplomatic to handle it.

No matter what republican wins, they are going to treat him like Trump 2.0.

The idea that the left and the media will clam down on any level is just a fantasy.

(01-06-2022 08:53 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(01-06-2022 04:15 PM)Eldonabe Wrote:  It makes you wonder if the guy really is going to run again in 24 or if he is just fuking with dems for fun?

I for one don't want him back in that seat. I agree with a lot of if not the vast majority of his ideas, but he is so polarizing that the chaos that comes with it is just not worth it. DeSantis is Trump-lite and while some degree of the Trump chaos would follow him, he seems more level headed and diplomatic to handle it.

Eldonabe speaks for me. Bullet and Cardinal Jim somewhat also. And they manage to do so without pissing the rest of you off. Clearly, they all are much better posters than I, and perhaps I should just go the way of the rest of the dissenters on this board and let everyone peacefully enjoy an uninterrupted circle around pictures of the M.O.B.

But I do sometimes wonder why you guys, who I know for the most part to be smart people, think that Donald Trump in 2024 is anything other than a ticket to disaster.

JMU Duke: Are we better off now than we were a year ago? Of course not. The nation is heading over a progressive cliff. Yet how does that lead you (along with B.C. and Tiger) to the completely illogical conclusion that Donald Trump is the best candidate to run in 2024? He’s the idiot who lost what should have been a shoo-in reelection.

Ollie, have you not been watching DeSantis gracefully bat away every lie, cheap shot and slur directed his way? He is 100 times more effective as a politician and communicator than Donald Trump. Ron DeSantis absolutely obliterated AOC and the rest of the leftist hypocrites who have attempted to take him on. He’s done so with facts, with humor and with real accomplishments. There are plenty of others who could do just as well. Donald Trump? The only tool in his rhetorical box is name calling.

Shere Kahn, do you honestly think that Donald Trump wrote that statement? If you do, then there really is no discussing things with you. You just keep on waving those pom poms. I’m sure Donald loves you too.

Absolutely NOT. This is becoming our problem in the US and its a huge problem. Anytime we disagree we should completely shut off the speech of others. And this is supposed to help us grow as individuals and as a country. This is the way of Communist China and it looks like more and more countries are heading in the Venezuela direction including our on.

Everyone needs a voice. Even those who borderline lunacy need to speak and I don't have to agree with any of it but it is basically the only freedom we have left and once its gone so are we.

My deceased Dad used to tell me having strong competition is not only good in business but is good in all aspects of life. Huh? Yeah, he continued without competition you get arrogant, fat and lazy and what's even worse you get indignant. You just don't care what anyone has to say because you hold all the cards.

As to your reference of Trump I get where you are coming from. He is a lightening rod and does inspire people from all backgrounds to come out and vote against him.
These people you have to remember are fed MSM lies 24/7 and his tweets of ignorance and narcissism only fuel the fire. If you look at his performance which the liars will never report on then you get a different picture. Please name another President who actually looked out for Americans first? Just one regardless of party in our lifetime.

The real and last question my Mother asked me one day when I was complaining about his mannerisms was this " How many people do you know could take the verbal abuse and constant false attacks on their person and family and still endure to help common folks like ourselves when they don't need to or have to do it?"

None was my response.

And I know regardless when if ever there is another Republican President he will be baptized in the same fire as Trump. After what I have watched since the onset of this manmade manufactured virus I am led to believe that we as a nation are on a track of no return. I have been more inspired by other Americans and I know Trump showed us the way that we do not have to be quiet and take this lying down. The gloves must come off and our teeth have to be shown or these savages will rip us to shreds in the name of their Regressive religion and supposed high moral standards for all humanity.

Wherefore, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath: James 1

(01-06-2022 11:40 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(01-06-2022 04:15 PM)Eldonabe Wrote:  It makes you wonder if the guy really is going to run again in 24 or if he is just fuking with dems for fun?

I for one don't want him back in that seat. I agree with a lot of if not the vast majority of his ideas, but he is so polarizing that the chaos that comes with it is just not worth it. DeSantis is Trump-lite and while some degree of the Trump chaos would follow him, he seems more level headed and diplomatic to handle it.

No matter what republican wins, they are going to treat him like Trump 2.0.

The idea that the left and the media will clam down on any level is just a fantasy.

Agreed, but DJT makes it easy. They tried it on Ronald Reagan and it rapidly fell apart. They managed to get people to hate the Bushes, but W. was so personally likable it didn't stop him.