That’s a damn shame. I think he has more potential than Waylee, but think brown will be the best of the 3 anyways. Wasn’t NIU his only offer?

Something has to give. I wouldn’t be surprised if one more RB left.

I hope this isnt true. Didnt he rip his knee up and Hammock stuck with him?

(12-21-2021 12:38 AM)prairiedawg Wrote:  I hope this isnt true. Didnt he rip his knee up and Hammock stuck with him?

That was Brown.

(12-21-2021 12:38 AM)prairiedawg Wrote:  I hope this isnt true. Didnt he rip his knee up and Hammock stuck with him?

Yes

Can someone tell me what Waylee did, besides get hurt, to go from starter to third string? Everyone loves Hammock but questions his decision to start Waylee over Brown and Ducker. 2 of 5 games were against BCS competition. Michigan is in BCS championship series. I know Ducker did well when given an opportunity but how do you know that Waylee might have done better?

(12-21-2021 07:24 AM)klake87 Wrote:  Can someone tell me what Waylee did, besides get hurt, to go from starter to third string? Everyone loves Hammock but questions his decision to start Waylee over Brown and Ducker. 2 of 5 games were against BCS competition. Michigan is in BCS championship series. I know Ducker did well when given an opportunity but how do you know that Waylee might have done better?

It's hard to tell since the competition was somewhat different, but Ducker definitely gets a lot more yards after contact than Waylee. Unless the blocking is so good that nobody touches the RB, it's pretty hard to show that Waylee is better, since he hadn't had much in the way of long runs.

(12-21-2021 07:52 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(12-21-2021 07:24 AM)klake87 Wrote:  Can someone tell me what Waylee did, besides get hurt, to go from starter to third string? Everyone loves Hammock but questions his decision to start Waylee over Brown and Ducker. 2 of 5 games were against BCS competition. Michigan is in BCS championship series. I know Ducker did well when given an opportunity but how do you know that Waylee might have done better?

It's hard to tell since the competition was somewhat different, but Ducker definitely gets a lot more yards after contact than Waylee. Unless the blocking is so good that nobody touches the RB, it's pretty hard to show that Waylee is better, since he hadn't had much in the way of long runs.

Two of Waylee's games were against Michigan and GT. They both have better athletes. I don't feel we have enough evidence that Waylee could not have broken tackles against MAC competition. Maybe Ducker is better. At beginning of year Hammock thought different.

(12-21-2021 08:19 AM)klake87 Wrote:  

(12-21-2021 07:52 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(12-21-2021 07:24 AM)klake87 Wrote:  Can someone tell me what Waylee did, besides get hurt, to go from starter to third string? Everyone loves Hammock but questions his decision to start Waylee over Brown and Ducker. 2 of 5 games were against BCS competition. Michigan is in BCS championship series. I know Ducker did well when given an opportunity but how do you know that Waylee might have done better?

It's hard to tell since the competition was somewhat different, but Ducker definitely gets a lot more yards after contact than Waylee. Unless the blocking is so good that nobody touches the RB, it's pretty hard to show that Waylee is better, since he hadn't had much in the way of long runs.

Two of Waylee's games were against Michigan and GT. They both have better athletes. I don't feel we have enough evidence that Waylee could not have broken tackles against MAC competition. Maybe Ducker is better. At beginning of year Hammock thought different.

Yea it's true there isn't too much to go on. I hope Ducker stays but it might be difficult to get carries for Waylee, Ducker and Brown plus any other RB that ends up looking good. We could use a WR, can any of these guys catch? lol

This Ducker fake news is special….

+100-----I always love the greener grass theory......especially when it's not from the real source.

With 75+ freshmen on the roster--we WILL get a lot of this---I'm guessing Senior Night three years from now will not be a three week event----if that number is anywhere near 20 I wouldn't be surprised.

Let's watch and see what happens.

I will be the first to tell you that I am entering the fan transfer portal. Even though the grass may not be greener on the other side, it just may be. I have been courted by such fine teams and fan bases as Toledo (gotta love that recruiting!), Eastern Michigan (I think they may want me to paint their field.), Akron (They'll take anybody.), Illinois State (Recruiting me to be a troll.), Chicago State (They need at least one fan!), UIC (Beating us by one point wasn't enough for them.), South Carolina (Something about being game for cocks.), and Tennessee Tech (Their hot dance team needs a stud mascot.).

I will take the best offer I get. I may have second thoughts and stick around, but with offers like this, how can I not leave? What has really pushed me over the edge is the lack of hot dogs at NIU. Any program worth anything will have ample supplies of hot dogs and fresh, moist buns. I was told that the firm, moist buns at Tennesse Tech are the best, while the wieners at South Carolina (the famous footlong Gamecock hotcocks) are to die for.

(12-21-2021 09:27 AM)Dog Fan Wrote:  I will be the first to tell you that I am entering the fan transfer portal. Even though the grass may not be greener on the other side, it just may be. I have been courted by such fine teams and fan bases as Toledo (gotta love that recruiting!), Eastern Michigan (I think they may want me to paint their field.), Akron (They'll take anybody.), Illinois State (Recruiting me to be a troll.), Chicago State (They need at least one fan!), UIC (Beating us by one point wasn't enough for them.), South Carolina (Something about being game for cocks.), and Tennessee Tech (Their hot dance team needs a stud mascot.).

I will take the best offer I get. I may have second thoughts and stick around, but with offers like this, how can I not leave? What has really pushed me over the edge is the lack of hot dogs at NIU. Any program worth anything will have ample supplies of hot dogs and fresh, moist buns. I was told that the firm, moist buns at Tennesse Tech are the best, while the wieners at South Carolina (the famous footlong Gamecock hotcocks) are to die for.

All the Tony Packo"s and Rudi's Hit Dog you can eat plus
Contacts on the Jersey Shore allow me to offer Windmill Hot Dogs as a final bargaining chip.

(12-21-2021 09:50 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  

(12-21-2021 09:27 AM)Dog Fan Wrote:  I will be the first to tell you that I am entering the fan transfer portal. Even though the grass may not be greener on the other side, it just may be. I have been courted by such fine teams and fan bases as Toledo (gotta love that recruiting!), Eastern Michigan (I think they may want me to paint their field.), Akron (They'll take anybody.), Illinois State (Recruiting me to be a troll.), Chicago State (They need at least one fan!), UIC (Beating us by one point wasn't enough for them.), South Carolina (Something about being game for cocks.), and Tennessee Tech (Their hot dance team needs a stud mascot.).

I will take the best offer I get. I may have second thoughts and stick around, but with offers like this, how can I not leave? What has really pushed me over the edge is the lack of hot dogs at NIU. Any program worth anything will have ample supplies of hot dogs and fresh, moist buns. I was told that the firm, moist buns at Tennesse Tech are the best, while the wieners at South Carolina (the famous footlong Gamecock hotcocks) are to die for.

All the Tony Packo"s and Rudi's Hit Dog you can eat plus
Contacts on the Jersey Shore allow me to offer Windmill Hot Dogs as a final bargaining chip.

Speaking of Jersey, if you can get me a couple rippers from Rutt's Hut, you won me over! I always liked the look of a ripper in my mouth with the condiments oozing down my chin.

(12-21-2021 08:19 AM)klake87 Wrote:  

(12-21-2021 07:52 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(12-21-2021 07:24 AM)klake87 Wrote:  Can someone tell me what Waylee did, besides get hurt, to go from starter to third string? Everyone loves Hammock but questions his decision to start Waylee over Brown and Ducker. 2 of 5 games were against BCS competition. Michigan is in BCS championship series. I know Ducker did well when given an opportunity but how do you know that Waylee might have done better?

It's hard to tell since the competition was somewhat different, but Ducker definitely gets a lot more yards after contact than Waylee. Unless the blocking is so good that nobody touches the RB, it's pretty hard to show that Waylee is better, since he hadn't had much in the way of long runs.

Two of Waylee's games were against Michigan and GT. They both have better athletes. I don't feel we have enough evidence that Waylee could not have broken tackles against MAC competition. Maybe Ducker is better. At beginning of year Hammock thought different.

GT was ranked 101st vs the run. Wyoming 92nd. Waylee also had 100 Carrie’s from last year against the Mac where he struggled a bit. The line wasn’t as good but that’s what breaking tackles is about. I will say Waylee looked stronger this year and ran harder. The problem is Brown. I think we all know Brown is the most talented and eventual starter(maybe even next year) and he is locked in at 2 just waiting to be 1. So instead of it being Waylee - 1 and Ducker - 1A, or vice versa, it’s 1 & 3 which sounds worse. I think Waylee and Ducker are pretty equal in quality but just different backs. Waylee will also have to press be he can stay healthy.

(12-21-2021 10:27 AM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  

(12-21-2021 08:19 AM)klake87 Wrote:  

(12-21-2021 07:52 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(12-21-2021 07:24 AM)klake87 Wrote:  Can someone tell me what Waylee did, besides get hurt, to go from starter to third string? Everyone loves Hammock but questions his decision to start Waylee over Brown and Ducker. 2 of 5 games were against BCS competition. Michigan is in BCS championship series. I know Ducker did well when given an opportunity but how do you know that Waylee might have done better?

It's hard to tell since the competition was somewhat different, but Ducker definitely gets a lot more yards after contact than Waylee. Unless the blocking is so good that nobody touches the RB, it's pretty hard to show that Waylee is better, since he hadn't had much in the way of long runs.

Two of Waylee's games were against Michigan and GT. They both have better athletes. I don't feel we have enough evidence that Waylee could not have broken tackles against MAC competition. Maybe Ducker is better. At beginning of year Hammock thought different.

GT was ranked 101st vs the run. Wyoming 92nd. Waylee also had 100 Carrie’s from last year against the Mac where he struggled a bit. The line wasn’t as good but that’s what breaking tackles is about. I will say Waylee looked stronger this year and ran harder. The problem is Brown. I think we all know Brown is the most talented and eventual starter(maybe even next year) and he is locked in at 2 just waiting to be 1. So instead of it being Waylee - 1 and Ducker - 1A, or vice versa, it’s 1 & 3 which sounds worse. I think Waylee and Ducker are pretty equal in quality but just different backs. Waylee will also have to press be he can stay healthy.

There is also the possibility that Waylee may not come back the same after his injury.

(12-21-2021 10:29 AM)Dog Fan Wrote:  

(12-21-2021 10:27 AM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  

(12-21-2021 08:19 AM)klake87 Wrote:  

(12-21-2021 07:52 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(12-21-2021 07:24 AM)klake87 Wrote:  Can someone tell me what Waylee did, besides get hurt, to go from starter to third string? Everyone loves Hammock but questions his decision to start Waylee over Brown and Ducker. 2 of 5 games were against BCS competition. Michigan is in BCS championship series. I know Ducker did well when given an opportunity but how do you know that Waylee might have done better?

It's hard to tell since the competition was somewhat different, but Ducker definitely gets a lot more yards after contact than Waylee. Unless the blocking is so good that nobody touches the RB, it's pretty hard to show that Waylee is better, since he hadn't had much in the way of long runs.

Two of Waylee's games were against Michigan and GT. They both have better athletes. I don't feel we have enough evidence that Waylee could not have broken tackles against MAC competition. Maybe Ducker is better. At beginning of year Hammock thought different.

GT was ranked 101st vs the run. Wyoming 92nd. Waylee also had 100 Carrie’s from last year against the Mac where he struggled a bit. The line wasn’t as good but that’s what breaking tackles is about. I will say Waylee looked stronger this year and ran harder. The problem is Brown. I think we all know Brown is the most talented and eventual starter(maybe even next year) and he is locked in at 2 just waiting to be 1. So instead of it being Waylee - 1 and Ducker - 1A, or vice versa, it’s 1 & 3 which sounds worse. I think Waylee and Ducker are pretty equal in quality but just different backs. Waylee will also have to press be he can stay healthy.

There is also the possibility that Waylee may not come back the same after his injury.

There is? He hurt his shoulder lol

I love this thread but I won't let this rumor ruin my Christmas.

Going all the way back to spring practices, Waylee tore up the NIU defenses making multiple, long TD runs. He was the offensive MVP of spring practice (Lafayette for D).

Ducker got carries and looked competent.

Something happened when tackling started and now Ducker shows that he is elusive, rarely gets tackled by the first guy or in the backfield. He has talent that fits what this team needs; to keep the chains moving.

Personally I hope they all stay.

With Rat gone we are going to need someone step up for 3rd down and short yardage.

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(12-21-2021 10:44 AM)7 Wrote:  

(12-21-2021 10:29 AM)Dog Fan Wrote:  

(12-21-2021 10:27 AM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  

(12-21-2021 08:19 AM)klake87 Wrote:  

(12-21-2021 07:52 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  It's hard to tell since the competition was somewhat different, but Ducker definitely gets a lot more yards after contact than Waylee. Unless the blocking is so good that nobody touches the RB, it's pretty hard to show that Waylee is better, since he hadn't had much in the way of long runs.

Two of Waylee's games were against Michigan and GT. They both have better athletes. I don't feel we have enough evidence that Waylee could not have broken tackles against MAC competition. Maybe Ducker is better. At beginning of year Hammock thought different.

GT was ranked 101st vs the run. Wyoming 92nd. Waylee also had 100 Carrie’s from last year against the Mac where he struggled a bit. The line wasn’t as good but that’s what breaking tackles is about. I will say Waylee looked stronger this year and ran harder. The problem is Brown. I think we all know Brown is the most talented and eventual starter(maybe even next year) and he is locked in at 2 just waiting to be 1. So instead of it being Waylee - 1 and Ducker - 1A, or vice versa, it’s 1 & 3 which sounds worse. I think Waylee and Ducker are pretty equal in quality but just different backs. Waylee will also have to press be he can stay healthy.

There is also the possibility that Waylee may not come back the same after his injury.

There is? He hurt his shoulder lol

Any first time injury has to be viewed as a fluke. But as contrary as this may sound I think Waylee has the style to get hurt more easily. He’s always going full speed and as a result you see him going head over heels when he gets his legs cut. Probably has higher speed collisions too. Ducker is mostly in a rugby scrum getting dragged down. Both guys are top Mac backs and we will be lucky to have both.

There is still nothing to indicate Ducker is leaving btw. I even went as far as looking to see it there’s a bunch of Nebraska coaches following him on twitter and there’s not.