(12-22-2021 03:27 PM)GrayHawk Wrote:  

(12-22-2021 03:22 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(12-22-2021 03:20 PM)GrayHawk Wrote:  

(12-22-2021 03:15 PM)billthebighawksfan Wrote:  Coach Siddle may be looking at it that more passes isn’t necessarily better if he can drive or drive kick with Sims and Shy getting downhill or on a favorable match up? They did get some post touches today but it wasn’t meant to be. And, the Hawks did have more assists than the Camels today and more paint points.

I do understand where y’all are coming from however. It is pretty to see that pill being swung around. A balance is what he’s looking for, I think.

Absolutely...This isn't the badketball we grew up with, and I trust the coaching staff to know better than the board gurus what puts us in the best chance to win games.

LOL how many winning coaches in the country employ the stand around and watch 1 guy offense? I'm curious

The one down in Wilmington has won 3 in a row

he's under .500 in his coaching career so he's not "winning"(i hope he gets there). Next......

(12-22-2021 03:32 PM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(12-22-2021 03:31 PM)GrayHawk Wrote:  

(12-22-2021 03:29 PM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(12-22-2021 03:27 PM)GrayHawk Wrote:  

(12-22-2021 03:22 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  LOL how many winning coaches in the country employ the stand around and watch 1 guy offense? I'm curious

The one down in Wilmington has won 3 in a row

So you’re good with the ISO and pray system? Lol

Let’s see how that works out in conference play.


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You saved one of my posts from a month ago....remember?

Yes I did.


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I understand you prefer a different style..But the bottom line is he may not be what you like or are accustomed to, but make NO bones about it....This is NOT McGrath 2.0.This team is learning how to win right now, I will take them any way we can get them .

(12-22-2021 03:42 PM)GrayHawk Wrote:  

(12-22-2021 03:32 PM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(12-22-2021 03:31 PM)GrayHawk Wrote:  

(12-22-2021 03:29 PM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(12-22-2021 03:27 PM)GrayHawk Wrote:  The one down in Wilmington has won 3 in a row

So you’re good with the ISO and pray system? Lol

Let’s see how that works out in conference play.


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You saved one of my posts from a month ago....remember?

Yes I did.


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I understand you prefer a different style..But the bottom line is he may not be what you like or are accustomed to, but make NO bones about it....This is NOT McGrath 2.0.This team is learning how to win right now, I will take them any way we can get them .

Iso and jack isn't a style. No one is asking for a remake of the system to run Princeton style or anything like that. If you watched the game you'd understand where we are coming from. When we moved and passed the ball around, good things happened. When we didn't, most times it's wasn't a good quality shots. Those are the facts. Iso and Jack won't work in conference so people just want to see growth.
I mean heck, early on coach was even yelling Pass and Cut.

There's still a lot to work on. But saying Campbell lost this game is total BS. Sorry, but this was the worst officiated game all year. There were times our guys were playing 8 on 5. They played through that and didn't give up. When you have one of the worst officials in Jerry Heater and a young whistle happy kid working together, that's not good. Jamie Luckie's son was the best of the three. Don't get me wrong, both tea.s got bad calls. But there was a stretch that we got hammered with bad calls. For example, their big Russian got an offensive board and went straight back up and dunked it. White let him go to keep from fouling, and he got the and one anyway that put them back on top. Our guys played hard and denied their Princeton style offense to work. We really shut down their backdoor play.
While the Jacksonville game was very disappointing, these guys have left it behind and improving. There's still work to be done.

(12-22-2021 03:46 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(12-22-2021 03:42 PM)GrayHawk Wrote:  

(12-22-2021 03:32 PM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(12-22-2021 03:31 PM)GrayHawk Wrote:  

(12-22-2021 03:29 PM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  So you’re good with the ISO and pray system? Lol

Let’s see how that works out in conference play.


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You saved one of my posts from a month ago....remember?

Yes I did.


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I understand you prefer a different style..But the bottom line is he may not be what you like or are accustomed to, but make NO bones about it....This is NOT McGrath 2.0.This team is learning how to win right now, I will take them any way we can get them .

Iso and jack isn't a style. No one is asking for a remake of the system to run Princeton style or anything like that. If you watched the game you'd understand where we are coming from. When we moved and passed the ball around, good things happened. When we didn't, most times it's wasn't a good quality shots. Those are the facts. Iso and Jack won't work in conference so people just want to see growth.
I mean heck, early on coach was even yelling Pass and Cut.

I watched...and heard every word that came from the bench

(12-22-2021 03:48 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  There's still a lot to work on. But saying Campbell lost this game is total BS. Sorry, but this was the worst officiated game all year. There were times our guys were playing 8 on 5. They played through that and didn't give up. When you have one of the worst officials in Jerry Heater and a young whistle happy kid working together, that's not good. Jamie Luckie's son was the best of the three. Don't get me wrong, both tea.s got bad calls. But there was a stretch that we got hammered with bad calls. For example, their big Russian got an offensive board and went straight back up and dunked it. White let him go to keep from fouling, and he got the and one anyway that put them back on top. Our guys played hard and denied their Princeton style offense to work. We really shut down their backdoor play.
While the Jacksonville game was very disappointing, these guys have left it behind and improving. There's still work to be done.

With the exception of a ew minute spurt in the first half where we let them back in not moving the feet on D, the D was really good. And came up biggest when it mattered. That play by Shy won the game. We went from potentially being down one giving up an easy layup to having the ball and going up 3.

(12-22-2021 03:51 PM)GrayHawk Wrote:  

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(12-22-2021 03:42 PM)GrayHawk Wrote:  

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(12-22-2021 03:31 PM)GrayHawk Wrote:  You saved one of my posts from a month ago....remember?

Yes I did.


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I understand you prefer a different style..But the bottom line is he may not be what you like or are accustomed to, but make NO bones about it....This is NOT McGrath 2.0.This team is learning how to win right now, I will take them any way we can get them .

Iso and jack isn't a style. No one is asking for a remake of the system to run Princeton style or anything like that. If you watched the game you'd understand where we are coming from. When we moved and passed the ball around, good things happened. When we didn't, most times it's wasn't a good quality shots. Those are the facts. Iso and Jack won't work in conference so people just want to see growth.
I mean heck, early on coach was even yelling Pass and Cut.

I watched...and heard every word that came from the bench

Well, then if you watched, and you couldn't see that the offense worked better when people moved, i can't help ya.

The argument that the staff knows more about basketball than a handful of message board posters is really quite comical. He damn well better know more about basketball than me, and I've never for once suggested that he didn't. If that is how you're measuring success, we have never had a bad coach.

I think we're all happy with the win. Other than Coastal, it is our best win, but therein lies the issue. We have four D1 wins (current RPI): Coastal (167), Campbell (177), High Point (331) and Del State (357). All of our loses are to equally mediocre teams. "Best" losses: Jacksonville (168) and Pitt (173). We're just about through the non-conference slate and there seems to be a pretty big gap between the top 6 and the bottom 4. Hopefully we're better than how we've played thus far, and hopefully we'll be competitive in conference play, but beating bad teams doesn't make you a winning coach.

ETA: I'm still optimistic about Siddle. It's year 2, I haven't given up on him and I am happy with the win today, but that doesn't mean we can't voice our frustrations or concerns.

(12-22-2021 02:29 PM)billthebighawksfan Wrote:  Just for fun…. Fornes was a plus 13 today and the only person better was Mike at plus 14. Crazy but true stats!!

That is interesting. Two games in a row we're Fornes has been +13 right?

(12-22-2021 04:29 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:  

(12-22-2021 02:29 PM)billthebighawksfan Wrote:  Just for fun…. Fornes was a plus 13 today and the only person better was Mike at plus 14. Crazy but true stats!!

That is interesting. Two games in a row we're Fornes has been +13 right?

Maybe his presence causes a little more hustle and basketball confidence from the rest of the guys. That can be a great thing. I should say that I want him to be a successful player and see him be one of our best shooters. Right now though, he’s still showing that he likes any shot when the ball hits his hands and his defense is basically to jump at a shooter and foul them. He HAS to play smarter, other wise our guys are playing 4 on 5.

If he’s going to keep getting minutes due to his + margin, I just want him to play smarter. Keep the aggressive play but smarter. It’s not impossible.


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(12-22-2021 04:29 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:  

(12-22-2021 02:29 PM)billthebighawksfan Wrote:  Just for fun…. Fornes was a plus 13 today and the only person better was Mike at plus 14. Crazy but true stats!!

That is interesting. Two games in a row we're Fornes has been +13 right?

He got bailed out big time by a shot clock violation when he mugged someone shooting a 3 at the buzzer, in crunch time too! He played well in the first half, second half other than that nice turn around, not so much

(12-22-2021 04:06 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:  The argument that the staff knows more about basketball than a handful of message board posters is really quite comical. He damn well better know more about basketball than me, and I've never for once suggested that he didn't. If that is how you're measuring success, we have never had a bad coach.

I think we're all happy with the win. Other than Coastal, it is our best win, but therein lies the issue. We have four D1 wins (current RPI): Coastal (167), Campbell (177), High Point (331) and Del State (357). All of our loses are to equally mediocre teams. "Best" losses: Jacksonville (168) and Pitt (173). We're just about through the non-conference slate and there seems to be a pretty big gap between the top 6 and the bottom 4. Hopefully we're better than how we've played thus far, and hopefully we'll be competitive in conference play, but beating bad teams doesn't make you a winning coach.

ETA: I'm still optimistic about Siddle. It's year 2, I haven't given up on him and I am happy with the win today, but that doesn't mean we can't voice our frustrations or concerns.

This is spot on Bricks.

None of us claim to be all knowing or smarter than coaches, however we ALL have the right to question, support or not support certain coaching decisions.

It’s possible to entirely support the program (many of us do it verbally, literally, and financially) while offering our opinions on what is happening on the court and in the coaching chairs.

Bricks laid out our concerns precisely detailing the “level” of wins, appreciating them but constructively stating we still need to do better and prove we are better by beating better opponents. The plain truth is, right now the wins we have on paper don’t impress anyone. Certainly though, they are giving the guys confidence and if that leads to better wins and climbing the conference ranks, so be it. I’m all for it. Right now though, we still have a lot to work on to prove it.


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(12-22-2021 03:48 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  There's still a lot to work on. But saying Campbell lost this game is total BS. Sorry, but this was the worst officiated game all year. There were times our guys were playing 8 on 5. They played through that and didn't give up. When you have one of the worst officials in Jerry Heater and a young whistle happy kid working together, that's not good. Jamie Luckie's son was the best of the three. Don't get me wrong, both tea.s got bad calls. But there was a stretch that we got hammered with bad calls. For example, their big Russian got an offensive board and went straight back up and dunked it. White let him go to keep from fouling, and he got the and one anyway that put them back on top. Our guys played hard and denied their Princeton style offense to work. We really shut down their backdoor play.
While the Jacksonville game was very disappointing, these guys have left it behind and improving. There's still work to be done.

I see what you’re saying and you make some good points. However, the way Campbell closed out the first half and attacked us for the beginning of the 2nd half, in my opinion they lost that game (due to their play and coaching) just as much as our guys gutted through adversity. Once they had the 7 point lead in the 2nd half they started shooting long distance jumper after jumper and stopped attacking the paint as much. It allowed our guys who were in foul trouble to avoid further trouble, and it decreased the amount of free opportunities for points at the line for the Camels. Refs were refs. Sometimes they make good calls, sometimes bad. You admitted they made bad calls on both sides so that’s neither here nor there. Regardless, Campbell should have kept attacking us on the drive and post play because we didn’t have an answer for that. Instead, they allowed us to dictate the pace of the game, get back in it and win it.

Oh. And Serbians aren’t Russians. Lol

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(12-22-2021 04:53 PM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(12-22-2021 03:48 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  There's still a lot to work on. But saying Campbell lost this game is total BS. Sorry, but this was the worst officiated game all year. There were times our guys were playing 8 on 5. They played through that and didn't give up. When you have one of the worst officials in Jerry Heater and a young whistle happy kid working together, that's not good. Jamie Luckie's son was the best of the three. Don't get me wrong, both tea.s got bad calls. But there was a stretch that we got hammered with bad calls. For example, their big Russian got an offensive board and went straight back up and dunked it. White let him go to keep from fouling, and he got the and one anyway that put them back on top. Our guys played hard and denied their Princeton style offense to work. We really shut down their backdoor play.
While the Jacksonville game was very disappointing, these guys have left it behind and improving. There's still work to be done.

I see what you’re saying and you make some good points. However, the way Campbell closed out the first half and attacked us for the beginning of the 2nd half, in my opinion they lost that game (due to their play and coaching) just as much as our guys gutted through adversity. Once they had the 7 point lead in the 2nd half they started shooting long distance jumper after jumper and stopped attacking the paint as much. It allowed our guys who were in foul trouble to avoid further trouble, and it decreased the amount of free opportunities for points at the line for the Camels. Refs were refs. Sometimes they make good calls, sometimes bad. You admitted they made bad calls on both sides so that’s neither here nor there. Regardless, Campbell should have kept attacking us on the drive and post play because we didn’t have an answer for that. Instead, they allowed us to dictate the pace of the game, get back in it and win it.

Oh. And Serbians aren’t Russians. Lol

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Sorry, but they all look alike. LOL

(12-22-2021 05:16 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  

(12-22-2021 04:53 PM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(12-22-2021 03:48 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  There's still a lot to work on. But saying Campbell lost this game is total BS. Sorry, but this was the worst officiated game all year. There were times our guys were playing 8 on 5. They played through that and didn't give up. When you have one of the worst officials in Jerry Heater and a young whistle happy kid working together, that's not good. Jamie Luckie's son was the best of the three. Don't get me wrong, both tea.s got bad calls. But there was a stretch that we got hammered with bad calls. For example, their big Russian got an offensive board and went straight back up and dunked it. White let him go to keep from fouling, and he got the and one anyway that put them back on top. Our guys played hard and denied their Princeton style offense to work. We really shut down their backdoor play.
While the Jacksonville game was very disappointing, these guys have left it behind and improving. There's still work to be done.

I see what you’re saying and you make some good points. However, the way Campbell closed out the first half and attacked us for the beginning of the 2nd half, in my opinion they lost that game (due to their play and coaching) just as much as our guys gutted through adversity. Once they had the 7 point lead in the 2nd half they started shooting long distance jumper after jumper and stopped attacking the paint as much. It allowed our guys who were in foul trouble to avoid further trouble, and it decreased the amount of free opportunities for points at the line for the Camels. Refs were refs. Sometimes they make good calls, sometimes bad. You admitted they made bad calls on both sides so that’s neither here nor there. Regardless, Campbell should have kept attacking us on the drive and post play because we didn’t have an answer for that. Instead, they allowed us to dictate the pace of the game, get back in it and win it.

Oh. And Serbians aren’t Russians. Lol

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Sorry, but they all look alike. LOL

Well. Serbians play way better basketball than Russians. So, there’s that.


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Had a chance to get to Wilmington and watch this one live.

IMO, one of the best games Sims has played at UNCW. Very selective on his three point shots and for the most part was smart with his drives and staying under control. He presents a real problem at the top of the key when a pick is set and the defense has to rotate to stop him on the drive. He's also gotten a lot better at finishing at the glass. I think he's better when he isn't driving from the corner and can go left or right on the drive. Because I would still like to see a PG get others involved and get some assists, that's still a sore spot. But we seem to be getting a + moving him from the 4.

An important stat I think none of us are really paying attention to is blocked shots. We had six today and will likely be first in the CAA after today. Considering the fact we don't have a legit shot blocker besides Kelly, who didn't play today, everyone is getting involved. We had five different guys block shots today. That has an affect on our opponents when they get on offense. There were several times today when Campbell players didn't take shots in the paint and instead passed.

Our defense is looking really good. We are doing a great job on the switch and our size at every position is making it so we aren't caught in a lot of mismatches. The athleticism we have on the court is helping negate the times we do have a size disadvantage. I was hoping to see more of Samb and although he isn't getting involved in the offense, he is doing a great job on defense. Really a great guy to bring off the bench

Better three point attempts off the drive and better percentages. High Point 5-10 for 50% and Campbell 6-16 for 37.5%. And the last two games we've shot 45.5% against HP overall and 41.2% against Campbell. Not stellar, but far better than before. We also shot 74% from the FT line and 83% in the second half with Phillips nailing the front end of a one and one and the second FT when it really mattered and Mike following up doing the same to really seal the win

Regardless of how we've done it and whether we like what we saw, we did what I was hoping for and beat Mt. Olive handily then beat some decent teams in High Point and Campbell. And we closed out some games with some clutch scores and defense. The guys have to be happy and confident going into conference play, and as a fan I certainly feel bettter about our chances after these three games.

Merry Christmas Seahawks!

For those that were at the game, the alley oop and dunk at the end of the game… was there any negative reaction to that?

Personally, I didn’t take any issue with it, because there was still time on the clock and a relatively slim lead.


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(12-22-2021 06:06 PM)82hawk Wrote:  Had a chance to get to Wilmington and watch this one live.

IMO, one of the best games Sims has played at UNCW. Very selective on his three point shots and for the most part was smart with his drives and staying under control. He presents a real problem at the top of the key when a pick is set and the defense has to rotate to stop him on the drive. He's also gotten a lot better at finishing at the glass. I think he's better when he isn't driving from the corner and can go left or right on the drive. Because I would still like to see a PG get others involved and get some assists, that's still a sore spot. But we seem to be getting a + moving him from the 4.

An important stat I think none of us are really paying attention to is blocked shots. We had six today and will likely be first in the CAA after today. Considering the fact we don't have a legit shot blocker besides Kelly, who didn't play today, everyone is getting involved. We had five different guys block shots today. That has an affect on our opponents when they get on offense. There were several times today when Campbell players didn't take shots in the paint and instead passed.

Our defense is looking really good. We are doing a great job on the switch and our size at every position is making it so we aren't caught in a lot of mismatches. The athleticism we have on the court is helping negate the times we do have a size disadvantage. I was hoping to see more of Samb and although he isn't getting involved in the offense, he is doing a great job on defense. Really a great guy to bring off the bench

Better three point attempts off the drive and better percentages. High Point 5-10 for 50% and Campbell 6-16 for 37.5%. And the last two games we've shot 45.5% against HP overall and 41.2% against Campbell. Not stellar, but far better than before. We also shot 74% from the FT line and 83% in the second half with Phillips nailing the front end of a one and one and the second FT when it really mattered and Mike following up doing the same to really seal the win

Regardless of how we've done it and whether we like what we saw, we did what I was hoping for and beat Mt. Olive handily then beat some decent teams in High Point and Campbell. And we closed out some games with some clutch scores and defense. The guys have to be happy and confident going into conference play, and as a fan I certainly feel bettter about our chances after these three games.

Merry Christmas Seahawks!

In terms of the blocked shots, that’s a great thing and I agree on the defense. We get caught not moving our feet sometimes and that’s where those blow by fouls like we saw a lot of today stem from, but overall very aggressive and works in our favor.

I haven’t looked at our size matchups in conference, but with a bigger lineup too to bottom with Sims at the point may really be disrupting the opponents. I agree with others that have said we need to press with intent though. A lot of our press opportunities seemed to be more focused on just burning the opponents shot clock vs aggressive TO focused press we saw under Keatts.


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(12-22-2021 07:08 PM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  For those that were at the game, the alley oop and dunk at the end of the game… was there any negative reaction to that?

Personally, I didn’t take any issue with it, because there was still time on the clock and a relatively slim lead.


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Trask erupted. It came after a great defensive play and it wasn't over. We almost turned the ball over and managed to get the ball out. Nobody was really paying attention to the time because it happened so quickly.

(12-22-2021 07:51 PM)82hawk Wrote:  

(12-22-2021 07:08 PM)B_Hawk06 Wrote:  For those that were at the game, the alley oop and dunk at the end of the game… was there any negative reaction to that?

Personally, I didn’t take any issue with it, because there was still time on the clock and a relatively slim lead.


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Trask erupted. It came after a great defensive play and it wasn't over. We almost turned the ball over and managed to get the ball out. Nobody was really paying attention to the time because it happened so quickly.

I thought it was awesome. I figured our fans loved it because you could hear the excitement on the stream. Was more wondering how the Campbell bench took it. Not that I really care a lot about their opinion, but was just curious.


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