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(12-03-2021 09:47 AM)eroc Wrote:  

(12-03-2021 07:05 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  Bacevich medically retired prior to last season i believe.

I believe you'll see a lot of Van Fossen, J Thomas, Pace on the field together at LB

JaQuan Shepard has been the backup boundary corner this year...I think we'll end up with Bush still at Nickel, Shepard at Boundary, and either Bumphis or Harris at Field unless Hardaway comes in and is an absolute stud.

Just my opinion, but I think we are going to have a few guys take covid years again, likely on the DL (Vann, Taylor) or Huber at LB.

I hope Huber comes back. I like his athleticism and he's been backing up dublanko so he can step up naturally with dublanko's departure

I agree with this. When Huber is in, he wreaks havoc and really has an eye for the ball. How many times has he made big plays this year behind the line of scrimmage? I think Huber comes back and is high in the rotation if not starting.

(12-03-2021 10:11 AM)Bruce Monnin Wrote:  That's a pretty nice looking roster. Put an experienced QB with that and we'd be very optomistic for next week. Prater is probably the biggest wildcard in that lineup.

It's a lot more Sr heavy than I would have guessed. I assume that's part of being a program. Wholesale changes, every year.

Huber and Van Fossen are ball seeking missles.

We're going to be pretty damn good next year because Fickell has built a PROGRAM and not just a team. We're rising up the recruiting rankings each year, and if not for the COVID year of eligibility, several of the guys on that list would already be starting anyway. Do I think we'll be as good as this year? Likely no, but I think we'll be favorites to repeat as AAC champs, or top 3 at worst. 9-10 wins is probably the floor, and NY6 bowl is the ceiling.

(12-03-2021 06:55 AM)BrooklynRocket Wrote:  I don't know his exact position (LB/SS) but Deshawn Pace definitely starts on defense.

Yeah I don't know what the original version looks like pre-update. But I'll call it right now: Pace gets All-American recognition before he leaves UC (and I ain't just talkin' AAC although that's a real possibility as well as early as next year.)

(12-03-2021 07:05 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  Bacevich medically retired prior to last season i believe.

I believe you'll see a lot of Van Fossen, J Thomas, Pace on the field together at LB

JaQuan Shepard has been the backup boundary corner this year...I think we'll end up with Bush still at Nickel, Shepard at Boundary, and either Bumphis or Harris at Field unless Hardaway comes in and is an absolute stud.

Just my opinion, but I think we are going to have a few guys take covid years again, likely on the DL (Vann, Taylor) or Huber at LB.

From Fickell's comments deflecting the ND "speculation", I infer that we have several guys giving the COVID year option real consideration.

(12-03-2021 09:24 AM)RealDeal Wrote:  

(12-03-2021 09:02 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(12-03-2021 08:34 AM)Z-Fly Wrote:  

(12-03-2021 08:23 AM)cincybb51 Wrote:  Won't Josh Whyle will be back next year at TE?

I think we're all pretty much assuming he'll be in the NFL Draft.

Technically, he has more remaining eligibility than either Hicks or Taylor, who are both seniors this years and would need to take a Covid year to return...but yeah, unless the injuries scared teams off, I'd assume his floor is in the 4th round, and with a big question mark at QB next year, I think the best choice for Whyle would be to go get his check.

I'm not typically an advocate for coming back if you're going to get drafted high enough to comfortably make a roster. More often than not you're better off getting into the league and not playing another year for free. With Whyle his numbers this year are basically non-existent since he was injured in the preseason and the passing numbers are pretty spread out among all our WRs and TE. If Lenny doesn't take the COVID year I actually think Whyle is someone who could come in and own the TE receiving yards and with Pierce leaving on the outside could put up some significant numbers as a security blanket for a new QB. If he comes back he's the rate case that I do think could elevate himself into a 2nd day pick. That said if his projection is 4th I still don't think that's enough of an incentive to come back.

I'm just hoping we get one of the two main TEs back - most likely Taylor I'm guessing. I think there's a real opportunity for one of them to put up some big numbers next year if one of them chooses to return.

(12-03-2021 12:46 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  

(12-03-2021 06:55 AM)BrooklynRocket Wrote:  I don't know his exact position (LB/SS) but Deshawn Pace definitely starts on defense.

Yeah I don't know what the original version looks like pre-update. But I'll call it right now: Pace gets All-American recognition before he leaves UC (and I ain't just talkin' AAC although that's a real possibility as well as early as next year.)

Since Van Fossen and Pace play the same position, you'd have to move Pace to one of the Safety positions to get them on the field together. Much like the position Jarrell White played for us. He had the skills of a safety playing the LB position.

I think Pace could play safety. He is definitely a ball hawk. Like to get the best players on the field no matter the position.

malik vann's career flew by. he instigated all this recruiting madness. case could be made for jarrell

(12-03-2021 02:45 PM)Lush Wrote:  malik vann's career flew by. he instigated all this recruiting madness. case could be made for jarrell

Great point on Vann! And, yes, it did fly. Given our youth at DE, it would certainly be huge if he chose to use his COVID year. And, ZFly, as others have pointed out, Bacevich is no longer on the roster.

(12-03-2021 01:03 PM)Edgebrookjeff Wrote:  

(12-03-2021 12:46 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  

(12-03-2021 06:55 AM)BrooklynRocket Wrote:  I don't know his exact position (LB/SS) but Deshawn Pace definitely starts on defense.

Yeah I don't know what the original version looks like pre-update. But I'll call it right now: Pace gets All-American recognition before he leaves UC (and I ain't just talkin' AAC although that's a real possibility as well as early as next year.)

Since Van Fossen and Pace play the same position, you'd have to move Pace to one of the Safety positions to get them on the field together. Much like the position Jarrell White played for us. He had the skills of a safety playing the LB position.

Well, they both play that sniper position now. I think you'd have more success moving Van Fossen (the more traditional LB) to the position vacated by Beavers and leaving Pace as the sniper moving forward.

(12-03-2021 03:28 PM)geef Wrote:  And, ZFly, as others have pointed out, Bacevich is no longer on the roster.

Correct, but he was recognized on senior night

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(12-03-2021 04:09 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  Well, they both play that sniper position now. I think you'd have more success moving Van Fossen (the more traditional LB) to the position vacated by Beavers and leaving Pace as the sniper moving forward.

If they're sticking with a 3-3-5 they already need more physicality up front, you can't move a sniper into a traditional LB spot.

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(12-03-2021 03:28 PM)geef Wrote:  

(12-03-2021 02:45 PM)Lush Wrote:  malik vann's career flew by. he instigated all this recruiting madness. case could be made for jarrell

Great point on Vann! And, yes, it did fly. Given our youth at DE, it would certainly be huge if he chose to use his COVID year. And, ZFly, as others have pointed out, Bacevich is no longer on the roster.

Sorry, I missed it. Who should I replace him with?

(12-03-2021 07:58 PM)RealDeal Wrote:  

(12-03-2021 04:09 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  Well, they both play that sniper position now. I think you'd have more success moving Van Fossen (the more traditional LB) to the position vacated by Beavers and leaving Pace as the sniper moving forward.

If they're sticking with a 3-3-5 they already need more physicality up front, you can't move a sniper into a traditional LB spot.

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Van Fossen is 6'2" 225, thats not exactly tiny...Beavers is the kind of body we won't have but for a blue moon. Besides, I think personnel will dictate package anyways. Could see them running a hybrid 4-2-5 next year with Van Fossen and Pace at LB...I just don't think you can have a situation where both of those guys aren't on the field.

I doubt we can maintain a 3-man front once Brooks leaves...to me, we don't have a 1 tech guy on the roster right now who can also get home on passing downs. I think we would have to roll with a four man unless you think Corleone or Phillips are ready.

(12-03-2021 09:18 PM)Z-Fly Wrote:  

(12-03-2021 03:28 PM)geef Wrote:  

(12-03-2021 02:45 PM)Lush Wrote:  malik vann's career flew by. he instigated all this recruiting madness. case could be made for jarrell

Great point on Vann! And, yes, it did fly. Given our youth at DE, it would certainly be huge if he chose to use his COVID year. And, ZFly, as others have pointed out, Bacevich is no longer on the roster.

Sorry, I missed it. Who should I replace him with?

Vann/Taylor are the strong side DEs...we will have to fill gaps at DT, likely with Dontay Corleone, Eric Phillips, or Justin Wodtly. Maybe they bump Briggs inside and Rob Jackson or Jah-mal Williams are up to speed to play rush end. We also have 4* Derrick Shepard coming in at DT and 4* Mario Eugenio coming it at DE, though I have no idea if they could jump in immediately. This is why losing Lawton was so weird...he seemed to be the guy who was next in line to get some serious PT this coming season.

Most importantly who will kick FG’s