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For fun, and nothing more, I was trying to figure out who would be around for next year. I thought it might be a fun distraction from coaching changes, and playoff discussion. I realize it's way too early. I'm not in tune with the roster as much as some of you, so I could use some help.

I used this thread to get a decent start.
https://csnbbs.com/thread-924277.html

Offense:
QB - Evan Prater So
RB - Ryan Montgomery Sr
WR - Tre Tucker Sr
WR - Tyler Scott Jr
WR - Jadon Thompson Jr
TE - Len Taylor Sr
LT - John Williams JR
LG - Jeremy Cooper Sr
C - Jake Renfro Jr
RG - Lorenz Metz Sr
RT - Dylan O’Quinn Sr

Defense:
DE - Jabari Taylor Sr (Covid Years?)
DT - Jowon Briggs Jr
DE - Malik Vann Sr
LB - Deshawn Pace Jr
LB - Jaheim Thomas So
LB - Ty Van Fossen Sr
NB - Arquon Bush Sr
CB - Ja'quan Shepard Sr
CB - Justin Harris Sr/Todd Bumphis So
S - Ja’von Hicks Sr
S - Byron Threats So

I think Ryan Montgomery will be the #1 RB, but it will be a rotation. Wright is a straight ahead back with very little patience so it limits him.

I vote Montgomery as well.

Updated

I don't know his exact position (LB/SS) but Deshawn Pace definitely starts on defense.

Bacevich medically retired prior to last season i believe.

I believe you'll see a lot of Van Fossen, J Thomas, Pace on the field together at LB

JaQuan Shepard has been the backup boundary corner this year...I think we'll end up with Bush still at Nickel, Shepard at Boundary, and either Bumphis or Harris at Field unless Hardaway comes in and is an absolute stud.

Just my opinion, but I think we are going to have a few guys take covid years again, likely on the DL (Vann, Taylor) or Huber at LB.

Pace has to be in there somewhere

I am going to go out on limb and say we will have 1-2 guys come in from the portal who will start next year.

(12-03-2021 07:35 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  I am going to go out on limb and say we will have 1-2 guys come in from the portal who will start next year.

I think so too. It was also one of the reasons I wanted to put this together. I was trying to find an obvious weak spot.

Chad mentioned bringing in someone to compete with Prater.

(12-03-2021 06:07 AM)Z-Fly Wrote:  For fun, and nothing more, I was trying to figure out who would be around for next year. I thought it might be a fun distraction from coaching changes, and playoff discussion. I realize it's way too early. I'm not in tune with the roster as much as some of you, so I could use some help.

I used this thread to get a decent start.
https://csnbbs.com/thread-924277.html

Offense:
QB - Evan Prater So
RB - Ryan Montgomery Sr
WR - Tre Tucker Sr
WR - Tyler Scott Jr
WR - Jadon Thompson Jr
TE - Len Taylor Sr
LT - John Williams JR
LG - Jeremy Cooper Sr
C - Jake Renfro Jr
RG - Lorenz Metz Sr
RT - Dylan O’Quinn Sr

Defense:
DE - Jowon Briggs Jr
DT - Malik Vann Sr/ Jabari Taylor Sr (Covid Years?)
DE - Blake Bracevich Sr
LB - Deshawn Pace Jr
LB - Jaheim Thomas So
LB - Ty Van Fossen Sr
NB - Arquon Bush Sr
CB - Ja'quan Shepard Sr
CB - Justin Harris Sr/Todd Bumphis So
S - Ja’von Hicks Sr
S - Byron Threats So

Won't Josh Whyle be back next year at TE?

(12-03-2021 08:23 AM)cincybb51 Wrote:  

(12-03-2021 06:07 AM)Z-Fly Wrote:  For fun, and nothing more, I was trying to figure out who would be around for next year. I thought it might be a fun distraction from coaching changes, and playoff discussion. I realize it's way too early. I'm not in tune with the roster as much as some of you, so I could use some help.

I used this thread to get a decent start.
https://csnbbs.com/thread-924277.html

Offense:
QB - Evan Prater So
RB - Ryan Montgomery Sr
WR - Tre Tucker Sr
WR - Tyler Scott Jr
WR - Jadon Thompson Jr
TE - Len Taylor Sr
LT - John Williams JR
LG - Jeremy Cooper Sr
C - Jake Renfro Jr
RG - Lorenz Metz Sr
RT - Dylan O’Quinn Sr

Defense:
DE - Jowon Briggs Jr
DT - Malik Vann Sr/ Jabari Taylor Sr (Covid Years?)
DE - Blake Bracevich Sr
LB - Deshawn Pace Jr
LB - Jaheim Thomas So
LB - Ty Van Fossen Sr
NB - Arquon Bush Sr
CB - Ja'quan Shepard Sr
CB - Justin Harris Sr/Todd Bumphis So
S - Ja’von Hicks Sr
S - Byron Threats So

Won't Josh Whyle will be back next year at TE?

I think we're all pretty much assuming he'll be in the NFL Draft.

(12-03-2021 08:34 AM)Z-Fly Wrote:  

(12-03-2021 08:23 AM)cincybb51 Wrote:  

(12-03-2021 06:07 AM)Z-Fly Wrote:  For fun, and nothing more, I was trying to figure out who would be around for next year. I thought it might be a fun distraction from coaching changes, and playoff discussion. I realize it's way too early. I'm not in tune with the roster as much as some of you, so I could use some help.

I used this thread to get a decent start.
https://csnbbs.com/thread-924277.html

Offense:
QB - Evan Prater So
RB - Ryan Montgomery Sr
WR - Tre Tucker Sr
WR - Tyler Scott Jr
WR - Jadon Thompson Jr
TE - Len Taylor Sr
LT - John Williams JR
LG - Jeremy Cooper Sr
C - Jake Renfro Jr
RG - Lorenz Metz Sr
RT - Dylan O’Quinn Sr

Defense:
DE - Jowon Briggs Jr
DT - Malik Vann Sr/ Jabari Taylor Sr (Covid Years?)
DE - Blake Bracevich Sr
LB - Deshawn Pace Jr
LB - Jaheim Thomas So
LB - Ty Van Fossen Sr
NB - Arquon Bush Sr
CB - Ja'quan Shepard Sr
CB - Justin Harris Sr/Todd Bumphis So
S - Ja’von Hicks Sr
S - Byron Threats So

Won't Josh Whyle will be back next year at TE?

I think we're all pretty much assuming he'll be in the NFL Draft.

Technically, he has more remaining eligibility than either Hicks or Taylor, who are both seniors this years and would need to take a Covid year to return...but yeah, unless the injuries scared teams off, I'd assume his floor is in the 4th round, and with a big question mark at QB next year, I think the best choice for Whyle would be to go get his check.

Jacob Dingle will be one of the safeties out there. He gets a lot of PT now as a clear #2 guy.

(12-03-2021 09:02 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(12-03-2021 08:34 AM)Z-Fly Wrote:  

(12-03-2021 08:23 AM)cincybb51 Wrote:  

(12-03-2021 06:07 AM)Z-Fly Wrote:  For fun, and nothing more, I was trying to figure out who would be around for next year. I thought it might be a fun distraction from coaching changes, and playoff discussion. I realize it's way too early. I'm not in tune with the roster as much as some of you, so I could use some help.

I used this thread to get a decent start.
https://csnbbs.com/thread-924277.html

Offense:
QB - Evan Prater So
RB - Ryan Montgomery Sr
WR - Tre Tucker Sr
WR - Tyler Scott Jr
WR - Jadon Thompson Jr
TE - Len Taylor Sr
LT - John Williams JR
LG - Jeremy Cooper Sr
C - Jake Renfro Jr
RG - Lorenz Metz Sr
RT - Dylan O’Quinn Sr

Defense:
DE - Jowon Briggs Jr
DT - Malik Vann Sr/ Jabari Taylor Sr (Covid Years?)
DE - Blake Bracevich Sr
LB - Deshawn Pace Jr
LB - Jaheim Thomas So
LB - Ty Van Fossen Sr
NB - Arquon Bush Sr
CB - Ja'quan Shepard Sr
CB - Justin Harris Sr/Todd Bumphis So
S - Ja’von Hicks Sr
S - Byron Threats So

Won't Josh Whyle will be back next year at TE?

I think we're all pretty much assuming he'll be in the NFL Draft.

Technically, he has more remaining eligibility than either Hicks or Taylor, who are both seniors this years and would need to take a Covid year to return...but yeah, unless the injuries scared teams off, I'd assume his floor is in the 4th round, and with a big question mark at QB next year, I think the best choice for Whyle would be to go get his check.

I'm not typically an advocate for coming back if you're going to get drafted high enough to comfortably make a roster. More often than not you're better off getting into the league and not playing another year for free. With Whyle his numbers this year are basically non-existent since he was injured in the preseason and the passing numbers are pretty spread out among all our WRs and TE. If Lenny doesn't take the COVID year I actually think Whyle is someone who could come in and own the TE receiving yards and with Pierce leaving on the outside could put up some significant numbers as a security blanket for a new QB. If he comes back he's the rate case that I do think could elevate himself into a 2nd day pick. That said if his projection is 4th I still don't think that's enough of an incentive to come back.

(12-03-2021 09:24 AM)RealDeal Wrote:  

(12-03-2021 09:02 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(12-03-2021 08:34 AM)Z-Fly Wrote:  

(12-03-2021 08:23 AM)cincybb51 Wrote:  

(12-03-2021 06:07 AM)Z-Fly Wrote:  For fun, and nothing more, I was trying to figure out who would be around for next year. I thought it might be a fun distraction from coaching changes, and playoff discussion. I realize it's way too early. I'm not in tune with the roster as much as some of you, so I could use some help.

I used this thread to get a decent start.
https://csnbbs.com/thread-924277.html

Offense:
QB - Evan Prater So
RB - Ryan Montgomery Sr
WR - Tre Tucker Sr
WR - Tyler Scott Jr
WR - Jadon Thompson Jr
TE - Len Taylor Sr
LT - John Williams JR
LG - Jeremy Cooper Sr
C - Jake Renfro Jr
RG - Lorenz Metz Sr
RT - Dylan O’Quinn Sr

Defense:
DE - Jowon Briggs Jr
DT - Malik Vann Sr/ Jabari Taylor Sr (Covid Years?)
DE - Blake Bracevich Sr
LB - Deshawn Pace Jr
LB - Jaheim Thomas So
LB - Ty Van Fossen Sr
NB - Arquon Bush Sr
CB - Ja'quan Shepard Sr
CB - Justin Harris Sr/Todd Bumphis So
S - Ja’von Hicks Sr
S - Byron Threats So

Won't Josh Whyle will be back next year at TE?

I think we're all pretty much assuming he'll be in the NFL Draft.

Technically, he has more remaining eligibility than either Hicks or Taylor, who are both seniors this years and would need to take a Covid year to return...but yeah, unless the injuries scared teams off, I'd assume his floor is in the 4th round, and with a big question mark at QB next year, I think the best choice for Whyle would be to go get his check.

I'm not typically an advocate for coming back if you're going to get drafted high enough to comfortably make a roster. More often than not you're better off getting into the league and not playing another year for free. With Whyle his numbers this year are basically non-existent since he was injured in the preseason and the passing numbers are pretty spread out among all our WRs and TE. If Lenny doesn't take the COVID year I actually think Whyle is someone who could come in and own the TE receiving yards and with Pierce leaving on the outside could put up some significant numbers as a security blanket for a new QB. If he comes back he's the rate case that I do think could elevate himself into a 2nd day pick. That said if his projection is 4th I still don't think that's enough of an incentive to come back.

the only thing I would be concerned about is who is throwing to them? I wouldn't expect ford lenny or josh to come back especially if the have good enough measurables to impress scouts.I know their stats aren't great this season (josh and lenny) but do we know that they'll be better with prater throwing to them?

(12-03-2021 07:05 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  Bacevich medically retired prior to last season i believe.

I believe you'll see a lot of Van Fossen, J Thomas, Pace on the field together at LB

JaQuan Shepard has been the backup boundary corner this year...I think we'll end up with Bush still at Nickel, Shepard at Boundary, and either Bumphis or Harris at Field unless Hardaway comes in and is an absolute stud.

Just my opinion, but I think we are going to have a few guys take covid years again, likely on the DL (Vann, Taylor) or Huber at LB.

I hope Huber comes back. I like his athleticism and he's been backing up dublanko so he can step up naturally with dublanko's departure

(12-03-2021 09:45 AM)eroc Wrote:  

(12-03-2021 09:24 AM)RealDeal Wrote:  

(12-03-2021 09:02 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(12-03-2021 08:34 AM)Z-Fly Wrote:  

(12-03-2021 08:23 AM)cincybb51 Wrote:  Won't Josh Whyle will be back next year at TE?

I think we're all pretty much assuming he'll be in the NFL Draft.

Technically, he has more remaining eligibility than either Hicks or Taylor, who are both seniors this years and would need to take a Covid year to return...but yeah, unless the injuries scared teams off, I'd assume his floor is in the 4th round, and with a big question mark at QB next year, I think the best choice for Whyle would be to go get his check.

I'm not typically an advocate for coming back if you're going to get drafted high enough to comfortably make a roster. More often than not you're better off getting into the league and not playing another year for free. With Whyle his numbers this year are basically non-existent since he was injured in the preseason and the passing numbers are pretty spread out among all our WRs and TE. If Lenny doesn't take the COVID year I actually think Whyle is someone who could come in and own the TE receiving yards and with Pierce leaving on the outside could put up some significant numbers as a security blanket for a new QB. If he comes back he's the rate case that I do think could elevate himself into a 2nd day pick. That said if his projection is 4th I still don't think that's enough of an incentive to come back.

the only thing I would be concerned about is who is throwing to them? I wouldn't expect ford lenny or josh to come back especially if the have good enough measurables to impress scouts.I know their stats aren't great this season (josh and lenny) but do we know that they'll be better with prater throwing to them?

Tight ends do pretty well in situations with young developing QBs. Recall a young Des and Josiah Deguara.

(12-03-2021 09:47 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(12-03-2021 09:45 AM)eroc Wrote:  

(12-03-2021 09:24 AM)RealDeal Wrote:  

(12-03-2021 09:02 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(12-03-2021 08:34 AM)Z-Fly Wrote:  I think we're all pretty much assuming he'll be in the NFL Draft.

Technically, he has more remaining eligibility than either Hicks or Taylor, who are both seniors this years and would need to take a Covid year to return...but yeah, unless the injuries scared teams off, I'd assume his floor is in the 4th round, and with a big question mark at QB next year, I think the best choice for Whyle would be to go get his check.

I'm not typically an advocate for coming back if you're going to get drafted high enough to comfortably make a roster. More often than not you're better off getting into the league and not playing another year for free. With Whyle his numbers this year are basically non-existent since he was injured in the preseason and the passing numbers are pretty spread out among all our WRs and TE. If Lenny doesn't take the COVID year I actually think Whyle is someone who could come in and own the TE receiving yards and with Pierce leaving on the outside could put up some significant numbers as a security blanket for a new QB. If he comes back he's the rate case that I do think could elevate himself into a 2nd day pick. That said if his projection is 4th I still don't think that's enough of an incentive to come back.

the only thing I would be concerned about is who is throwing to them? I wouldn't expect ford lenny or josh to come back especially if the have good enough measurables to impress scouts.I know their stats aren't great this season (josh and lenny) but do we know that they'll be better with prater throwing to them?

Tight ends do pretty well in situations with young developing QBs. Recall a young Des and Josiah Deguara.

I would say the only reason for anyone like Whyle or Ford to come back would be to improve their draft position. So the question really is, can either do that enough to warrant the risk of coming back for another year?

That's a pretty nice looking roster. Put an experienced QB with that and we'd be very optomistic for next week. Prater is probably the biggest wildcard in that lineup.

(12-03-2021 09:55 AM)scvanguard1 Wrote:  

(12-03-2021 09:47 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(12-03-2021 09:45 AM)eroc Wrote:  

(12-03-2021 09:24 AM)RealDeal Wrote:  

(12-03-2021 09:02 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  Technically, he has more remaining eligibility than either Hicks or Taylor, who are both seniors this years and would need to take a Covid year to return...but yeah, unless the injuries scared teams off, I'd assume his floor is in the 4th round, and with a big question mark at QB next year, I think the best choice for Whyle would be to go get his check.

I'm not typically an advocate for coming back if you're going to get drafted high enough to comfortably make a roster. More often than not you're better off getting into the league and not playing another year for free. With Whyle his numbers this year are basically non-existent since he was injured in the preseason and the passing numbers are pretty spread out among all our WRs and TE. If Lenny doesn't take the COVID year I actually think Whyle is someone who could come in and own the TE receiving yards and with Pierce leaving on the outside could put up some significant numbers as a security blanket for a new QB. If he comes back he's the rate case that I do think could elevate himself into a 2nd day pick. That said if his projection is 4th I still don't think that's enough of an incentive to come back.

the only thing I would be concerned about is who is throwing to them? I wouldn't expect ford lenny or josh to come back especially if the have good enough measurables to impress scouts.I know their stats aren't great this season (josh and lenny) but do we know that they'll be better with prater throwing to them?

Tight ends do pretty well in situations with young developing QBs. Recall a young Des and Josiah Deguara.

I would say the only reason for anyone like Whyle or Ford to come back would be to improve their draft position. So the question really is, can either do that enough to warrant the risk of coming back for another year?

Risk is the operative word IMHO-- he is a heck of a talent but Whyle has been hurt at some point every year since he has been here. I could see him deciding to go simply to avoid sustaining an injury that could cost him a chance at the next level.