(11-29-2021 09:27 AM)DukesFreak70 Wrote:  We are clearly the better team, but I hope the Dukes aren't as dismissive of SELA as some on this board.

I'm nervous about this game. Having Colgate flashbacks all last weekend.

(11-29-2021 02:56 PM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  

(11-29-2021 09:27 AM)DukesFreak70 Wrote:  We are clearly the better team, but I hope the Dukes aren't as dismissive of SELA as some on this board.

I'm nervous about this game. Having Colgate flashbacks all last weekend.

I see no gimmes this year on our way to Frisco.

truth

(11-29-2021 02:59 PM)Dukester Wrote:  

(11-29-2021 02:56 PM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  

(11-29-2021 09:27 AM)DukesFreak70 Wrote:  We are clearly the better team, but I hope the Dukes aren't as dismissive of SELA as some on this board.

I'm nervous about this game. Having Colgate flashbacks all last weekend.

I see no gimmes this year on our way to Frisco.

This team has no business overlooking anyone at this point. This team hasn't played to its potential and if we don't, we are going to be going home early.

STATS say we are the better all-around team. So, this will come down to:
1. Do we play they way our STATS say we do?
2. Their total offense is about 120 yards more per game. Don't get in a shoot out!
3. Our defense is somewhere around 175 yards per game better. They give up a ton of yards on D.
4. As in most football games, and I think especially this one, it will come down to who has the better O-Line. If they are better and protect their QB, it will be a shoot out and bad for the Dukes.
5. It seems to me that our O-Line has to be able to run the football and keep them off the field for long stretches of the game. Run the ball and dominate their defense.
6. Coaching - preparation to execute a game plan and make game time adjustments that work.
7. Wild card, don't suffer critical interference calls and give up 3rd and 20. I think they are number 1 in FCS for 3rd down conversion.

(11-29-2021 03:07 PM)JMU1985 Wrote:  STATS say we are the better all-around team. So, this will come down to:
1. Do we play they way our STATS say we do?
2. Their total offense is about 120 yards more per game. Don't get in a shoot out!
3. Our defense is somewhere around 175 yards per game better. They give up a ton of yards on D.
4. As in most football games, and I think especially this one, it will come down to who has the better O-Line. If they are better and protect their QB, it will be a shoot out and bad for the Dukes.
5. It seems to me that our O-Line has to be able to run the football and keep them off the field for long stretches of the game. Run the ball and dominate their defense.
6. Coaching - preparation to execute a game plan and make game time adjustments that work.
7. Wild card, don't suffer critical interference calls and give up 3rd and 20. I think they are number 1 in FCS for 3rd down conversion.

Makes a lot of sense - watching SLU vs Nicholls and FAMU I took a few things away, they will gamble and go for a lot of 4th and short situations as well as run fakes. They run a ton of misdirection, crossing, swing and wheels routes with and against formation. The scheme they run is what gives me pause, as you highlighted the pressure and with how many rushers needed to create it will be key in my mind. The defensive scheme needs to be sound and executed well as they design people into space. Offensively JMU will need to score Touchdowns consistently and i think be out in front early.

After watching the FAMU game one thing to watch out for is fakes on field goals and punts. Still have nightmares about that fake field goal attempt by NDSU in Frisco in 2019/2020.

Brian

(11-29-2021 04:11 PM)ParentofJMUMRDs Wrote:  After watching the FAMU game one thing to watch out for is fakes on field goals and punts. Still have nightmares about that fake field goal attempt by NDSU in Frisco in 2019/2020.

Brian

What should of been an obvious fake based on field conditions and yard line.

(11-29-2021 04:11 PM)ParentofJMUMRDs Wrote:  After watching the FAMU game one thing to watch out for is fakes on field goals and punts. Still have nightmares about that fake field goal attempt by NDSU in Frisco in 2019/2020.

Brian

That’s a good point. They have the highest scoring offense, but have only made 8 FG’s all year. 8 of 13 and none longer than 39 yards. Crappy kicker and high octane offense.
They are 20 of 28 on 4th down conversions.
Have punted 24 times all year.

Do the math and you can see they are often going for it on 4th down regardless of the formation they line up in.

The scoreboard operator at Bridgeforth better crack his knuckles and apply some arthritis cream because their fingers will be busy Saturday. Would be awesome if we see zero punts from either team in a do or die game.

This is a case where a creative defensive coordinator can find the right way to contain them. (or find 3 ways and see which one works.)
They have a really beefy OL, and they look good at handling a 4-man rush. (And are good at looking for work, when an unoccupied lineman finds someone else to hit.) Their QB is big, and while he isn't fast, he's pretty strong. His arm doesn't look too strong -- he had to lay a few up, and was inaccurate on things like screens and stuff.

If i were setting it up, I'd go with a 5-man front - essentially rushing 3 and having left-edge and right-edge containment. Eventually the pocket will collapse around him, and the contain guys can make sure he doesn't run wild by filling in any gaps in the line and closing in for pressure. Behind that, play man with a single-deep safety. The risks you set up are quick hits and forcing open-field tackling, but as I said, his accuracy isn't great even short. For deeper throws, he'll have to put enough air under the ball to give your defenders time to set up.

Another option is rushing 4 with a two-deep or tampa-two zone where the middle LB is also responsible for bottling up Kelly. I'd rather force him to beat me deep than give up a bunch of 15-yard scrambles or letting them throw a slant with a 30-yard run afterwards. You can also blitz out of this set without making it too obvious where you've given up coverage -- if he's easy to rattle, you can make a difference with just a couple blitzes.

I should be more nervous than I am. But I am not nervous after watching 2 of their games.

JMU 48
SELA 24

(11-29-2021 10:29 AM)TXGiant Wrote:  And then there’s this…

https://amp.tallahassee.com/amp/87872630...EEJpcV7fTM

I read about racial slurs and a child being hurt by a thrown beer can and sadness just comes over me. Why can’t people be better?

(11-29-2021 05:11 PM)94computerguy Wrote:  This is a case where a creative defensive coordinator can find the right way to contain them. (or find 3 ways and see which one works.)
They have a really beefy OL, and they look good at handling a 4-man rush. (And are good at looking for work, when an unoccupied lineman finds someone else to hit.) Their QB is big, and while he isn't fast, he's pretty strong. His arm doesn't look too strong -- he had to lay a few up, and was inaccurate on things like screens and stuff.

If i were setting it up, I'd go with a 5-man front - essentially rushing 3 and having left-edge and right-edge containment. Eventually the pocket will collapse around him, and the contain guys can make sure he doesn't run wild by filling in any gaps in the line and closing in for pressure. Behind that, play man with a single-deep safety. The risks you set up are quick hits and forcing open-field tackling, but as I said, his accuracy isn't great even short. For deeper throws, he'll have to put enough air under the ball to give your defenders time to set up.

Another option is rushing 4 with a two-deep or tampa-two zone where the middle LB is also responsible for bottling up Kelly. I'd rather force him to beat me deep than give up a bunch of 15-yard scrambles or letting them throw a slant with a 30-yard run afterwards. You can also blitz out of this set without making it too obvious where you've given up coverage -- if he's easy to rattle, you can make a difference with just a couple blitzes.

Good call! Corey is a sharp dude and I believe he will mix combos like those you mentioned to keep them guessing. Contain is critical. I am most worried about screens to the RBs, especially to the left, the side they seem to prefer for that play.

Kelley is not a deep ball guy. He has to really wind up to get a 40-yarder downfield, and it is so high and off-target, they are mostly going to be duds or jump balls. He isn't going to run on us. His big ass is getting stuffed at the LOS or in the backfield. Likewise, the RBs.

Southeast Louisiana University of Technology (SLUT) is going to have to pass to beat us, and if we give Kelley the time to do it, they could sneak up on us. Blitzing on obvious passing downs will rob him of that time and deny them any hope of leaving the burg with a W.

It’s not just about Kelley’s ability to pass. Guys have to be open. Outside of Withers two years, I can’t recall a JMU defense in the last 20 years that was beaten by a one dimensional offense.

(11-29-2021 03:44 PM)Knit35 Wrote:  

(11-29-2021 03:07 PM)JMU1985 Wrote:  STATS say we are the better all-around team. So, this will come down to:
1. Do we play they way our STATS say we do?
2. Their total offense is about 120 yards more per game. Don't get in a shoot out!
3. Our defense is somewhere around 175 yards per game better. They give up a ton of yards on D.
4. As in most football games, and I think especially this one, it will come down to who has the better O-Line. If they are better and protect their QB, it will be a shoot out and bad for the Dukes.
5. It seems to me that our O-Line has to be able to run the football and keep them off the field for long stretches of the game. Run the ball and dominate their defense.
6. Coaching - preparation to execute a game plan and make game time adjustments that work.
7. Wild card, don't suffer critical interference calls and give up 3rd and 20. I think they are number 1 in FCS for 3rd down conversion.

Makes a lot of sense - watching SLU vs Nicholls and FAMU I took a few things away, they will gamble and go for a lot of 4th and short situations as well as run fakes. They run a ton of misdirection, crossing, swing and wheels routes with and against formation. The scheme they run is what gives me pause, as you highlighted the pressure and with how many rushers needed to create it will be key in my mind. The defensive scheme needs to be sound and executed well as they design people into space. Offensively JMU will need to score Touchdowns consistently and i think be out in front early.

This might be a coaching duel. Who can make the best real-time adjustments during halftime and actual run of play. SELU on offense and JMU on defense.

(11-29-2021 02:56 PM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  

(11-29-2021 09:27 AM)DukesFreak70 Wrote:  We are clearly the better team, but I hope the Dukes aren't as dismissive of SELA as some on this board.

I'm nervous about this game. Having Colgate flashbacks all last weekend.

Same. I'm retaining pessimism until I see the W.

Dukes by 90

(11-29-2021 04:33 PM)Dukester Wrote:  

(11-29-2021 04:11 PM)ParentofJMUMRDs Wrote:  After watching the FAMU game one thing to watch out for is fakes on field goals and punts. Still have nightmares about that fake field goal attempt by NDSU in Frisco in 2019/2020.

Brian

What should of been an obvious fake based on field conditions and yard line.

Yep! I believe that is the only game Cig got outcoached... and by a rookie!

(11-29-2021 08:09 PM)DirtyDukes Wrote:  Dukes by 90

99

(11-29-2021 06:54 PM)Purple Wrote:  

(11-29-2021 05:11 PM)94computerguy Wrote:  This is a case where a creative defensive coordinator can find the right way to contain them. (or find 3 ways and see which one works.)
They have a really beefy OL, and they look good at handling a 4-man rush. (And are good at looking for work, when an unoccupied lineman finds someone else to hit.) Their QB is big, and while he isn't fast, he's pretty strong. His arm doesn't look too strong -- he had to lay a few up, and was inaccurate on things like screens and stuff.

If i were setting it up, I'd go with a 5-man front - essentially rushing 3 and having left-edge and right-edge containment. Eventually the pocket will collapse around him, and the contain guys can make sure he doesn't run wild by filling in any gaps in the line and closing in for pressure. Behind that, play man with a single-deep safety. The risks you set up are quick hits and forcing open-field tackling, but as I said, his accuracy isn't great even short. For deeper throws, he'll have to put enough air under the ball to give your defenders time to set up.

Another option is rushing 4 with a two-deep or tampa-two zone where the middle LB is also responsible for bottling up Kelly. I'd rather force him to beat me deep than give up a bunch of 15-yard scrambles or letting them throw a slant with a 30-yard run afterwards. You can also blitz out of this set without making it too obvious where you've given up coverage -- if he's easy to rattle, you can make a difference with just a couple blitzes.

Good call! Corey is a sharp dude and I believe he will mix combos like those you mentioned to keep them guessing. Contain is critical. I am most worried about screens to the RBs, especially to the left, the side they seem to prefer for that play.

Kelley is not a deep ball guy. He has to really wind up to get a 40-yarder downfield, and it is so high and off-target, they are mostly going to be duds or jump balls. He isn't going to run on us. His big ass is getting stuffed at the LOS or in the backfield. Likewise, the RBs.

Southeast Louisiana University of Technology (SLUT) is going to have to pass to beat us, and if we give Kelley the time to do it, they could sneak up on us. Blitzing on obvious passing downs will rob him of that time and deny them any hope of leaving the burg with a W.

If they spread it out a lot, that is another reason to do a 5-under, 2-deep zone and just make sure that the defense collapses around the ball.