(11-28-2021 02:03 PM)JMU1987UVA1998 Wrote:  Not as optimistic as some thinking we win by 3+ TDs next Saturday.

I've been disappointed in the pass rush by our defense so far during the regular season. We need to establish the rush which will have Kelley moving in the pocket like we did when we played Elon and Campbell. Can't give Kelley time like we did Daniel Smith when we played Villanova or we'll be in a shootout which we don't want.

Obviously making good tackles is going to be a priority.

Assume we place our All CAA CB Greg Ross on SELA's best WR and their leading pass catcher #4 Austin Mitchell who's 5'9. Their 2nd leading pass catcher is their TE #88 Nolan Givan who's 6'3.

I thought someone said Carpenter is out for the rest of the season which is unfortunate since he had a good Spring and a pretty good Fall season.

I agree. If we rely on our D-line to get to Kelley, he is going to burn us.

Blitz early and blitz often!

(11-28-2021 07:33 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  I knew JMU was having a stellar year in turnovers, but didn’t realize they lead the nation in turnover margin. Normally that would give me pause to think the team is not as good as it’s record, but the dukes don’t have a ton of takeaways that can at times be circumstantial.
They do have the least turnovers lost of any team at only 7 for the year.

In my mind that is the most critical element of JMU making a run in the playoffs. If they continue to have zero or 1 turnover per game, then they can beat any team in the field. I don’t think they have enough talent this year to overcome a turnover deficit against a playoff team.
When the weather starts getting crappy, will Cig get more conservative and have JMU running more? Could be tough sledding with JMu’s worst rushing team in many years. No problem against SELa. Someone like Montana or ND State will salivate at JMU trying to run more.
Can we get the valley weather gal to dial up good weather the next several weekends?

Weather won’t be crappy in the Fargo Dome. It will be just perfect.

Exactly DD. That is the only upside to playing there. A snowy day in Harrisonburg would be advantage NDSU. I like our passing game to perform in the dome.

(11-28-2021 07:07 PM)fishingduke12 Wrote:  

(11-28-2021 05:51 PM)Purple Wrote:  

(11-28-2021 04:23 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  

(11-28-2021 02:58 PM)JMUNation Wrote:  JMU’s defense has historically done very well against pocket passers. I believe that will be the difference. JMU will dial up blitzes if necessary and make Kelley throw quickly.

A top offense against a top defense. Sounds like a battle worth watching.

But he isn’t strictly a pocket passer. He has more rushing attempts than anyone on the team and more yards and 16 rushing TD’s. And that is on top of throwing for over 400 yards per game. He is almost a one man team.
He is slow though so I agree JMU can get pressure on him and team speed should limit his rush yards whether it is designed runs or on the scramble. We may not need to blitz if the D-line plays to its ability. I expect huge games from Greene, Carter, and Ukwu.

What is the record for pass yards given up by JMU?
I assume McCormick will still be out and he is the best CB which is saying a lot because he has been toast often in his career, but not as much as Ross has been in one season.
CB is the weak spot on this defense and I expect lots of pass yards to be conceded. Just mix in some sacks and a pick or two. That should be enough to give JMU separation on the scoreboard.

No way do I believe we should rely on our defensive line to get to Kelley. SLU has a pretty good offensive line. Don't get me wrong, our D-line is going to beat them, but we need to be in Kelley's grill in a microsecond. That means blitzing backers and d-backs. We should also have a spy on Kelley. He is the whole team. He should not be difficult to defend against. The key is not allowing him a split second to find receivers. He is going to get the ball to RBs on the corners, especially to the left. We have to be all over that.

We don't have to "expect lots of pass yards to be conceded." Running for his life is not something Kelley is used to. He is going to be very frustrated and mistake-prone next Saturday. I see many sacks and multiple picks.

Kelley is going to spend a lot of time flat on his back come Saturday and a lot of time flat on his back on a therapist's couch in the future trying to figure out what happened to him on 12/4/2021!

Go, Dukes! Kick 'dey ass!

Are you thinking we should plan on playing with more than 11 guys on defense? The opening two drives SLA was running quick 5-10 yard routes. The more we blitz the more those are open especially since they run a ton of 4 and 5 receiver sets. There are not enough players on defense to do what youre suggesting.

Best way to beat the blitz is to get the ball out quick and I'm pretty sure SELA is going to do exactly that after watching tape on our defense and Hetherman's tendencies

Best way to stop great qbs is pressure with the front four. Look at what the giants did to brady in the two super bowls and look at Mahomes this year. Teams stopped blitzing him and he is having by far his worst year

Sure, I think that is a great idea! You must be like some coaching prodigy or something.

(11-28-2021 04:23 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  

(11-28-2021 02:58 PM)JMUNation Wrote:  JMU’s defense has historically done very well against pocket passers. I believe that will be the difference. JMU will dial up blitzes if necessary and make Kelley throw quickly.

A top offense against a top defense. Sounds like a battle worth watching.

But he isn’t strictly a pocket passer. He has more rushing attempts than anyone on the team and more yards and 16 rushing TD’s. And that is on top of throwing for over 400 yards per game. He is almost a one man team.
He is slow though so I agree JMU can get pressure on him and team speed should limit his rush yards whether it is designed runs or on the scramble. We may not need to blitz if the D-line plays to its ability. I expect huge games from Greene, Carter, and Ukwu.

What is the record for pass yards given up by JMU?
I assume McCormick will still be out and he is the best CB which is saying a lot because he has been toast often in his career, but not as much as Ross has been in one season.
CB is the weak spot on this defense and I expect lots of pass yards to be conceded. Just mix in some sacks and a pick or two. That should be enough to give JMU separation on the scoreboard.

Hart did you watch the SELA/FAMU game? Kelley did not impress me with his running or mobility. Sure he'll fall forward for a yard on 3rd and 1, but he didn't look too mobile even against FAMU slow as molasses defense.

(11-28-2021 08:32 PM)DirtyDukes Wrote:  

(11-28-2021 04:23 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  

(11-28-2021 02:58 PM)JMUNation Wrote:  JMU’s defense has historically done very well against pocket passers. I believe that will be the difference. JMU will dial up blitzes if necessary and make Kelley throw quickly.

A top offense against a top defense. Sounds like a battle worth watching.

But he isn’t strictly a pocket passer. He has more rushing attempts than anyone on the team and more yards and 16 rushing TD’s. And that is on top of throwing for over 400 yards per game. He is almost a one man team.
He is slow though so I agree JMU can get pressure on him and team speed should limit his rush yards whether it is designed runs or on the scramble. We may not need to blitz if the D-line plays to its ability. I expect huge games from Greene, Carter, and Ukwu.

What is the record for pass yards given up by JMU?
I assume McCormick will still be out and he is the best CB which is saying a lot because he has been toast often in his career, but not as much as Ross has been in one season.
CB is the weak spot on this defense and I expect lots of pass yards to be conceded. Just mix in some sacks and a pick or two. That should be enough to give JMU separation on the scoreboard.

Hart did you watch the SELA/FAMU game? Kelley did not impress me with his running or mobility. Sure he'll fall forward for a yard on 3rd and 1, but he didn't look too mobile even against FAMU slow as molasses defense.

I believe Kelley is going to be shocked by the velocity with which he is going to be hit at the LOS and in the backfield. I pity the fool!

JMU opens as 14.5 point favorites vs. SELA. The largest spread of all second round games.

(11-28-2021 08:45 PM)Purple Wrote:  

(11-28-2021 08:32 PM)DirtyDukes Wrote:  

(11-28-2021 04:23 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  

(11-28-2021 02:58 PM)JMUNation Wrote:  JMU’s defense has historically done very well against pocket passers. I believe that will be the difference. JMU will dial up blitzes if necessary and make Kelley throw quickly.

A top offense against a top defense. Sounds like a battle worth watching.

But he isn’t strictly a pocket passer. He has more rushing attempts than anyone on the team and more yards and 16 rushing TD’s. And that is on top of throwing for over 400 yards per game. He is almost a one man team.
He is slow though so I agree JMU can get pressure on him and team speed should limit his rush yards whether it is designed runs or on the scramble. We may not need to blitz if the D-line plays to its ability. I expect huge games from Greene, Carter, and Ukwu.

What is the record for pass yards given up by JMU?
I assume McCormick will still be out and he is the best CB which is saying a lot because he has been toast often in his career, but not as much as Ross has been in one season.
CB is the weak spot on this defense and I expect lots of pass yards to be conceded. Just mix in some sacks and a pick or two. That should be enough to give JMU separation on the scoreboard.

Hart did you watch the SELA/FAMU game? Kelley did not impress me with his running or mobility. Sure he'll fall forward for a yard on 3rd and 1, but he didn't look too mobile even against FAMU slow as molasses defense.

I believe Kelley is going to be shocked by the velocity with which he is going to be hit at the LOS and in the backfield. I pity the fool!

That was my takeaway from the SELA/FAMU game -- they all looked like statues (with stone hands - all those drops).

Has anyone been able to find an SLU message board? I haven't.

(11-28-2021 10:42 PM)Purple Wrote:  Has anyone been able to find an SLU message board? I haven't.

Only old/abandoned ones, and a link to one that seems to have died.

(11-28-2021 10:52 PM)JMURocks Wrote:  

(11-28-2021 10:42 PM)Purple Wrote:  Has anyone been able to find an SLU message board? I haven't.

Only old/abandoned ones, and a link to one that seems to have died.

Yeah, that's what I found, too. And one link that actually took me to the Sam Houston board.

LOL! Those guys really hate us down there.

(11-28-2021 08:32 PM)DirtyDukes Wrote:  

(11-28-2021 04:23 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  

(11-28-2021 02:58 PM)JMUNation Wrote:  JMU’s defense has historically done very well against pocket passers. I believe that will be the difference. JMU will dial up blitzes if necessary and make Kelley throw quickly.

A top offense against a top defense. Sounds like a battle worth watching.

But he isn’t strictly a pocket passer. He has more rushing attempts than anyone on the team and more yards and 16 rushing TD’s. And that is on top of throwing for over 400 yards per game. He is almost a one man team.
He is slow though so I agree JMU can get pressure on him and team speed should limit his rush yards whether it is designed runs or on the scramble. We may not need to blitz if the D-line plays to its ability. I expect huge games from Greene, Carter, and Ukwu.

What is the record for pass yards given up by JMU?
I assume McCormick will still be out and he is the best CB which is saying a lot because he has been toast often in his career, but not as much as Ross has been in one season.
CB is the weak spot on this defense and I expect lots of pass yards to be conceded. Just mix in some sacks and a pick or two. That should be enough to give JMU separation on the scoreboard.

Hart did you watch the SELA/FAMU game? Kelley did not impress me with his running or mobility. Sure he'll fall forward for a yard on 3rd and 1, but he didn't look too mobile even against FAMU slow as molasses defense.

Yeah, I watched until it was a blowout. I agree he is slow, but he still leads the team in rushing yards and attempts. I think twice as many attempts as the closest RB which is crazy considering how much risk he has for injury being a slow motion big target. I think the 16 rushing TD’s say it all. He is used as a huge battering ram in short yardage situations.

The dilemma for Heatherman is if he puts a spy on him, that is one less coverage guy against a pass happy offense. Maybe they only use the spy in the red zone and let him get a few meaningless rushing yards in the rest of the field leading up to that. The chess game will be fun to watch.

Just 3 years ago he was a starting QB in the SEC for Arkansas so he is plenty talented even if the competition he plays is awful.

We are clearly the better team, but I hope the Dukes aren't as dismissive of SELA as some on this board.

If there is a weakness on defense, it would have to be the secondary. Without McCormick, their play has been inconsistent. Even when they don't give up the big play, they had a run of committing PI. SELA can move the ball downfield without completing a pass if we aren't disciplined.

I think it'll be back and forth early. We eventually wear them down and pull away.

Dukes - 34
Lions - 21

I'm optimistic. SLU is a one-man band and their team speed is like watching a replay in slow motion.

Dawgs 45
Lions 13

Dukes 24
SELA. 21

Dukes 44
SELA 31

Dukes go into Q4 up 44-17 and essentially shut it down.

This one shouldn’t be close but I said the same about Colgate. Is Cigs name leaked this week for an open FBS job?

^ Duke

And then there’s this…

https://amp.tallahassee.com/amp/87872630...EEJpcV7fTM

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