Things said on a football field particularly after you get yr ars waxed should not be disclosed to the public. Now if you get yr ars waxed and choose to take it outside of the football field then your a great fella. IMO in this particular situation.

I know nothing about this other than the accusation in the thread title above.

Seems to me that if player A makes a racial slur to player B, the player A's own teammates would say, "what da' fuk?" Somebody besides the accuser would have heard.

My guess is he is suspended for the Troy game and that is it. Assuming it was calling him the B word, and spitting in his face.

In today's climate, Spurlin saying a racial slur would be national news. Something similar happened to one of our tennis players a few years back. This incident would not have been kept on the down low like it is now.

Spurlin was completely surrounded when this happened. I would guarantee that if something that heinous was spoken, someone would have made a bigger deal about it.

I'm not here to guarantee anything, but people need to quit being idiots.

(11-16-2021 04:53 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  Again, If Spurlin did spit on him. I hope he has to sit... For a while. Maybe for the rest of the season.

If Spurlin used racially charged language... Might as well hang up that App jersey because you don't belong at App.

If neither happened, I hope KW and the USA player **** off.

If all he did was spit on the guy then he's served his time missing a large chunk of last week's game. It's nasty but not the end of the world.

(11-16-2021 09:44 PM)JTApps1 Wrote:  

(11-16-2021 04:53 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  Again, If Spurlin did spit on him. I hope he has to sit... For a while. Maybe for the rest of the season.

If Spurlin used racially charged language... Might as well hang up that App jersey because you don't belong at App.

If neither happened, I hope KW and the USA player **** off.

If all he did was spit on the guy then he's served his time missing a large chunk of last week's game. It's nasty but not the end of the world.

If there is proof an app state player spit on someone, then that player should not be an app state player.

Sounds like coach Womack will need to lawyer up. Extraordinary accusations require extraordinary proof. And he can’t produce that proof.

Maybe he emphasized "b i t c h" in his face which resulted in some unintentional spit. I could also imagine a scenario where he called him something like "boy" which isn't racist in regular context but could be considered "racially charged" in certain situations. I have no idea what happened but those types of scenarios would explain Gray's extreme reaction but the lack of reaction by others.

(11-16-2021 10:02 PM)Appvette Wrote:  Maybe he emphasized "b i t c h" in his face which resulted in some unintentional spit. I could also imagine a scenario where he called him something like "boy" which isn't racist in regular context but could be considered "racially charged" in certain situations. I have no idea what happened but those types of scenarios would explain Gray's extreme reaction but the lack of reaction by others.

I am 25 years old and have never heard “boy” used in a racial context

(11-16-2021 10:05 PM)iStoopify Wrote:  

(11-16-2021 10:02 PM)Appvette Wrote:  Maybe he emphasized "b i t c h" in his face which resulted in some unintentional spit. I could also imagine a scenario where he called him something like "boy" which isn't racist in regular context but could be considered "racially charged" in certain situations. I have no idea what happened but those types of scenarios would explain Gray's extreme reaction but the lack of reaction by others.

I am 25 years old and have never heard “boy” used in a racial context

It was used in the very Old South I believe. Its evolved to the point now that it doesn't really involve race anymore, but it used to.

(11-16-2021 06:14 PM)hotrod2001 Wrote:  Seeing the guy started wailing away on Spurlin without being provoked many already assumed he either said something or spit on him, it was discussed on the USA/App thread.

If someone spits in someone else's face, I'd say it's provocation.

(11-16-2021 10:02 PM)Appvette Wrote:  Maybe he emphasized "b i t c h" in his face which resulted in some unintentional spit. I could also imagine a scenario where he called him something like "boy" which isn't racist in regular context but could be considered "racially charged" in certain situations. I have no idea what happened but those types of scenarios would explain Gray's extreme reaction but the lack of reaction by others.

Without more information, this seems to me to be a reasonable assessment of the possibilities.

(11-16-2021 10:12 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(11-16-2021 10:05 PM)iStoopify Wrote:  

(11-16-2021 10:02 PM)Appvette Wrote:  Maybe he emphasized "b i t c h" in his face which resulted in some unintentional spit. I could also imagine a scenario where he called him something like "boy" which isn't racist in regular context but could be considered "racially charged" in certain situations. I have no idea what happened but those types of scenarios would explain Gray's extreme reaction but the lack of reaction by others.

I am 25 years old and have never heard “boy” used in a racial context

It was used in the very Old South I believe. Its evolved to the point now that it doesn't really involve race anymore, but it used to.

I think the tone and context would determine if somebody means it to be racially charged or not.

(11-16-2021 10:12 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(11-16-2021 10:05 PM)iStoopify Wrote:  

(11-16-2021 10:02 PM)Appvette Wrote:  Maybe he emphasized "b i t c h" in his face which resulted in some unintentional spit. I could also imagine a scenario where he called him something like "boy" which isn't racist in regular context but could be considered "racially charged" in certain situations. I have no idea what happened but those types of scenarios would explain Gray's extreme reaction but the lack of reaction by others.

I am 25 years old and have never heard “boy” used in a racial context

It was used in the very Old South I believe. Its evolved to the point now that it doesn't really involve race anymore, but it used to.

Well in some ways I’m glad you’re ignorant to the term being used as a slur but it hasn’t gone away. It’s s still used by some to disparage black males, regardless of age, to imply superiority. I had a line coach lose his job for using it at practice in the late 90’s...and knowing that coach he knew exactly how historically offensive that is. https://www.thoughtco.com/terms-many-don...st-2834522

(11-16-2021 09:44 PM)JTApps1 Wrote:  

(11-16-2021 04:53 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  Again, If Spurlin did spit on him. I hope he has to sit... For a while. Maybe for the rest of the season.

If Spurlin used racially charged language... Might as well hang up that App jersey because you don't belong at App.

If neither happened, I hope KW and the USA player **** off.

If all he did was spit on the guy then he's served his time missing a large chunk of last week's game. It's nasty but not the end of the world.

Considering the primary method of spreading COVID is through the air, spitting on someone is more than just “nasty”. It can be considered assault in certain states.

(11-16-2021 11:22 PM)Troy_Fan_15 Wrote:  

(11-16-2021 10:12 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(11-16-2021 10:05 PM)iStoopify Wrote:  

(11-16-2021 10:02 PM)Appvette Wrote:  Maybe he emphasized "b i t c h" in his face which resulted in some unintentional spit. I could also imagine a scenario where he called him something like "boy" which isn't racist in regular context but could be considered "racially charged" in certain situations. I have no idea what happened but those types of scenarios would explain Gray's extreme reaction but the lack of reaction by others.

I am 25 years old and have never heard “boy” used in a racial context

It was used in the very Old South I believe. Its evolved to the point now that it doesn't really involve race anymore, but it used to.

I think the tone and context would determine if somebody means it to be racially charged or not.

Not sure what tone it would be used in on a football field. I'd think the entirety of the context matters, and it being on a football field where Spurlin is the only white guy of like 15 in his position group, a 6th year player and team captain, I highly doubt it would be a racial thing.

(11-16-2021 11:22 PM)Troy_Fan_15 Wrote:  

(11-16-2021 10:12 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(11-16-2021 10:05 PM)iStoopify Wrote:  

(11-16-2021 10:02 PM)Appvette Wrote:  Maybe he emphasized "b i t c h" in his face which resulted in some unintentional spit. I could also imagine a scenario where he called him something like "boy" which isn't racist in regular context but could be considered "racially charged" in certain situations. I have no idea what happened but those types of scenarios would explain Gray's extreme reaction but the lack of reaction by others.

I am 25 years old and have never heard “boy” used in a racial context

It was used in the very Old South I believe. Its evolved to the point now that it doesn't really involve race anymore, but it used to.

I think the tone and context would determine if somebody means it to be racially charged or not.

That's exactly why I suggested it or something similar could have been said. It would explain why Spurlin was clueless on what he did (didn't mean it to be racial) but Gray was furious (took it to be racial).

(11-17-2021 08:11 AM)Appvette Wrote:  

(11-16-2021 11:22 PM)Troy_Fan_15 Wrote:  

(11-16-2021 10:12 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(11-16-2021 10:05 PM)iStoopify Wrote:  

(11-16-2021 10:02 PM)Appvette Wrote:  Maybe he emphasized "b i t c h" in his face which resulted in some unintentional spit. I could also imagine a scenario where he called him something like "boy" which isn't racist in regular context but could be considered "racially charged" in certain situations. I have no idea what happened but those types of scenarios would explain Gray's extreme reaction but the lack of reaction by others.

I am 25 years old and have never heard “boy” used in a racial context

It was used in the very Old South I believe. Its evolved to the point now that it doesn't really involve race anymore, but it used to.

I think the tone and context would determine if somebody means it to be racially charged or not.

That's exactly why I suggested it or something similar could have been said. It would explain why Spurlin was clueless on what he did (didn't mean it to be racial) but Gray was furious (took it to be racial).

And if that's what happened, and it's all over the internet that Spurlin is an overt racist a few months before entering the job market, I'm filing a lawsuit.

Amazing, 59 posts from message board experts and still nobody knows if he said or did what he’s accused of saying or doing.