(11-15-2021 12:12 PM)wmmii Wrote:  Mercer will be get in before us if they have a competitive game against ETSU and lose.

Also think Western Conference will get SFA (if they win on Saturday) at 8-3 in front of us at 7-4 ...

If Mercer loses then they are highly unlikely to get in because they would be 7-3 and one of the wins is against Point University (non-Division I). The general "rule of thumb" is that it takes 7 Div-I wins to get in (and I think that it has been violated only once and it won't happen this year when there are so many teams on the bubble).

If Stephen F. Austin loses then they face the same dilemma because one of their wins is against Lincoln University. Even if they win they might not get in because they have a lot of wins against bad opponents (Dixie St., Tarleton, Mississippi Valley St., Lamar, Lincoln) with only three wins against decent opponents.

I thought that I saw once (but I can't find it now) that maybe the Rhode Island Athletic Director is on the FCS selection committee (there is definitely a CAA member on the committee). Someone with better googling skills can chime in on that. Anyway, something I found interesting is that if Rhody loses to Elon then 3 of their 4 losses would be to teams that W&M beat (Towson, Villanova, Elon; with their fourth loss being to Maine). That and the fact that they would be 4-4 in the CAA while we would be 5-3 should count for something.

Rhode Island loses and we win, we are in. Will certainly help if Monmouth loses. They've beaten nobody worth a hoot this year anyway.

(11-15-2021 01:32 PM)Zorch Wrote:  

(11-15-2021 12:12 PM)wmmii Wrote:  Mercer will be get in before us if they have a competitive game against ETSU and lose.

Also think Western Conference will get SFA (if they win on Saturday) at 8-3 in front of us at 7-4 ...

I thought that I saw once (but I can't find it now) that maybe the Rhode Island Athletic Director is on the FCS selection committee (there is definitely a CAA member on the committee). Someone with better googling skills can chime in on that. Anyway, something I found interesting is that if Rhody loses to Elon then 3 of their 4 losses would be to teams that W&M beat (Towson, Villanova, Elon; with their fourth loss being to Maine). That and the fact that they would be 4-4 in the CAA while we would be 5-3 should count for something.

URI's AD Thorr Bjorn is in his final year on the FCS Selection Committee.

(11-15-2021 02:28 PM)billymac Wrote:  

(11-15-2021 01:32 PM)Zorch Wrote:  

(11-15-2021 12:12 PM)wmmii Wrote:  Mercer will be get in before us if they have a competitive game against ETSU and lose.

Also think Western Conference will get SFA (if they win on Saturday) at 8-3 in front of us at 7-4 ...

I thought that I saw once (but I can't find it now) that maybe the Rhode Island Athletic Director is on the FCS selection committee (there is definitely a CAA member on the committee). Someone with better googling skills can chime in on that. Anyway, something I found interesting is that if Rhody loses to Elon then 3 of their 4 losses would be to teams that W&M beat (Towson, Villanova, Elon; with their fourth loss being to Maine). That and the fact that they would be 4-4 in the CAA while we would be 5-3 should count for something.

URI's AD Thorr Bjorn is in his final year on the FCS Selection Committee.

Showing my age, but that gives me Maine 2008 vibes. That Tribe team went 7-4 and 5-3 in the league and got left out. As many of you likely recall, Maine went 8-4 and got in but basically beat no one. At this point, I just hope we play well and beat Richmond. We should know how it is looking for the other potential relevant games by halftime of our contest. Given the performance of the last 2 weeks, let's just hope we are not woefully behind at that point. Would love to see us play better right from the start instead of quickly falling behind as we have in 4 of our last 5 games. I don't see the Tribe winning unless we can throw the ball effectively.

(11-15-2021 02:28 PM)billymac Wrote:  

(11-15-2021 01:32 PM)Zorch Wrote:  

(11-15-2021 12:12 PM)wmmii Wrote:  Mercer will be get in before us if they have a competitive game against ETSU and lose.

Also think Western Conference will get SFA (if they win on Saturday) at 8-3 in front of us at 7-4 ...

I thought that I saw once (but I can't find it now) that maybe the Rhode Island Athletic Director is on the FCS selection committee (there is definitely a CAA member on the committee). Someone with better googling skills can chime in on that. Anyway, something I found interesting is that if Rhody loses to Elon then 3 of their 4 losses would be to teams that W&M beat (Towson, Villanova, Elon; with their fourth loss being to Maine). That and the fact that they would be 4-4 in the CAA while we would be 5-3 should count for something.

URI's AD Thorr Bjorn is in his final year on the FCS Selection Committee.

Thanks for confirming. This being Bjorn's final year on the committee will likely be the killer for the Tribe (if both teams finish 7-4). These committees (both football and basketball) always take care of their own if at all possible. In this case, both teams being 7-4, Rhody being ranked longer, and having an FBS win will give the committee all the plausible deniability they need (despite the reasons bolded above which would seem to favor W&M). We have to not only hope Elon wins but that they blow out Rhody.

Maybe we should have played Morehead St (like JMU did) instead of UVa.

Good to know the conspiracy theories are in place.

(11-15-2021 06:01 PM)Rocco Wrote:  Good to know the conspiracy theories are in place.

You don’t believe in the good ol boy network? I find that hard to believe


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Thanks for the feedback. This is the insight from those who follow the other conferences more carefully that I had hoped for. For those of you clarifying that we need to be Richmond, thank you for doing the math for me. I had determined that at 6-4 we need to win to be 7–4. I’d also ferreted out that at 6-5 we would not make the playoffs. :)

Playoffs or not...and I would love to see the team in the playoffs...a 7-4 season for a team picked last for the season would be a
terrific season after a bunch of years of losing.

Just beat the Ticks.

Should Rhode Island's win at UMass even count as a FBS win?

I think it is very possible the CAA only gets 2 teams into the playoffs, if Rhode Island loses to Elon. But, I agree with Bubba that the season was far better than initially expected regardless of the outcome Saturday. The last 4 games were always going to be a significant challenge. If they manage to win Saturday, 2-2 over the last 4 would represent a solid finish.

(11-16-2021 12:05 PM)TribePride91 Wrote:  Should Rhode Island's win at UMass even count as a FBS win?

I think it is very possible the CAA only gets 2 teams into the playoffs, if Rhode Island loses to Elon. But, I agree with Bubba that the season was far better than initially expected regardless of the outcome Saturday. The last 4 games were always going to be a significant challenge. If they manage to win Saturday, 2-2 over the last 4 would represent a solid finish.

It will for those who would look for an excuse to take URI over W&M.

In reality, based on Sagarin, UMass would be dead last in the CAA. They are ranked below UAlbany. UMass is already 0-2 in the CAA based on on field results.

Should we win Saturday and assume Elon wins, URI would not have a single win against the top 4 in the league. They did not play JMU, did not play us and lost 44-0 at Villanova.

(11-16-2021 03:03 PM)Sitting bull Wrote:  

(11-16-2021 12:05 PM)TribePride91 Wrote:  Should Rhode Island's win at UMass even count as a FBS win?

I think it is very possible the CAA only gets 2 teams into the playoffs, if Rhode Island loses to Elon. But, I agree with Bubba that the season was far better than initially expected regardless of the outcome Saturday. The last 4 games were always going to be a significant challenge. If they manage to win Saturday, 2-2 over the last 4 would represent a solid finish.

It will for those who would look for an excuse to take URI over W&M.

In reality, based on Sagarin, UMass would be dead last in the CAA. They are ranked below UAlbany. UMass is already 0-2 in the CAA based on on field results.

Should we win Saturday and assume Elon wins, URI would not have a single win against the top 4 in the league. They did not play JMU, did not play us and lost 44-0 at Villanova.

It will be a kick in the nuts if we both win Saturday and they get in and we don't based on their win over UMass and our loss to UVA. We both lost to Maine and our loss to UD is matched by their loss to Towson. Neither of our FCS out of conference opponents were all that impressive so that will have to have been the deciding factor if it happens.

(11-16-2021 05:23 PM)TribeinVB Wrote:  

(11-16-2021 03:03 PM)Sitting bull Wrote:  

(11-16-2021 12:05 PM)TribePride91 Wrote:  Should Rhode Island's win at UMass even count as a FBS win?

I think it is very possible the CAA only gets 2 teams into the playoffs, if Rhode Island loses to Elon. But, I agree with Bubba that the season was far better than initially expected regardless of the outcome Saturday. The last 4 games were always going to be a significant challenge. If they manage to win Saturday, 2-2 over the last 4 would represent a solid finish.

It will for those who would look for an excuse to take URI over W&M.

In reality, based on Sagarin, UMass would be dead last in the CAA. They are ranked below UAlbany. UMass is already 0-2 in the CAA based on on field results.

Should we win Saturday and assume Elon wins, URI would not have a single win against the top 4 in the league. They did not play JMU, did not play us and lost 44-0 at Villanova.

It will be a kick in the nuts if we both win Saturday and they get in and we don't based on their win over UMass and our loss to UVA. We both lost to Maine and our loss to UD is matched by their loss to Towson. Neither of our FCS out of conference opponents were all that impressive so that will have to have been the deciding factor if it happens.

I guess if they win at Elon and finish 8-3, they at least played their way in. Winning at Elon is no cakewalk. If Elon wins, and we both finish 7-4, then no question we would tilt the scale as 3rd place team.

The answer to the question posed in the thread title is "Yes". Unfortunately, we didn't finish 7-4.

I've got to think that Rhode Island gets in due to the combination of CAA reputation, a 7-4 record, and an AD on the selection committee. If they don't get in (and considering that almost all other contenders also lost today) then that AD should be fired for malpractice.

So does 6-5 have a prayer? Is there a wins minimum? Hate to see a season end like that

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I think Richmond is now 6-5 with season ending winning streak.

(11-20-2021 11:29 PM)zablenoise Wrote:  So does 6-5 have a prayer? Is there a wins minimum? Hate to see a season end like that

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Call me crazy but I thought there was a slight chance that 6-5 had a shot. However with Coach London basically campaigning not to get in during his press conference I think it's another CAA team thats 6-5 that will get in if 6-5 gets by in.

Blessing in disguise. Wilson will see how close he was, work extremely hard in the offseason, and come out guns blazing next year.

(11-20-2021 11:29 PM)zablenoise Wrote:  So does 6-5 have a prayer? Is there a wins minimum? Hate to see a season end like that

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Well yes but not for us

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