(11-14-2021 11:35 AM)FrankyP Wrote:  

(11-14-2021 11:14 AM)ericsaid Wrote:  1. Louisiana - continues to win.

2. Appy State - 41-13

3. Georgia State - was blown out by App but played Louisiana to a close game and beat Coastal. The win against Coastal may not have come with McCall at the helm but, and a big but, it was Georgia State's offense that has began to play at a high level.

4. Coastal - I figured that they would take a step back when everyone of their opponents had the same practice time to prepare and they have. Their defense lost them the game. Perhaps McCall gives Georgia State some less advantageous situations on offense but you can't give up 42 points and expect to win.

5. Troy - Talented, undercoached
6. USA - Talented, very good defense and offense. I'm still puzzled as to how they only scored one touchdown against App.

7. Georgia Southern - Seems Helton may have asked to see more passing or Southern's staff decided to do it themselves. It seems like it's working. I wonder if they are trying to install some of Helton's offense during the week to see some basic plays and where players fit. Seems a Fritz type of offense may be what Helton tries to adopt. I could be totally wrong.

8. Arkansas State - well coached team who hasn't given up despite their record. Surprised Wyatt didn't play this week.

9. ULM - Punched above their weight class mid-season, they have fallen off as of late.

10. Texas State - Spavital may be done? Talented, undercoached team with a questionable recruiting strategy. Whomever is hired next will need to recruit high school players and that will take a few years.

Went ahead and corrected a few things for you.

FrankyP, you are becoming the perpetual victim that you claim CCU is. Give it up. We know what you want to be called and we don’t care.

(11-14-2021 11:14 AM)ericsaid Wrote:  1. Louisiana - Laffyette - continues to win unconvincingly

2. App State - continues to win in convincing fashion. Turnovers are becoming a major concern. If App wants to win a conference championship, they will not have room for the same mistakes we continue to see. Ref's have been terrible in every conference game I've watched so far. Every App opponent stays relatively scotch free while App has several penalties called. I can't be convinced they play that much cleaner.

3. Georgia State - was blown out by App but played Louisiana to a close game and beat Coastal. The win against Coastal may not have come with McCall at the helm but, and a big but, it was Georgia State's offense that has began to play at a high level.

4. Coastal - I figured that they would take a step back when everyone of their opponents had the same practice time to prepare and they have. Their defense lost them the game. Perhaps McCall gives Georgia State some less advantageous situations on offense but you can't give up 42 points and expect to win.

5. Troy - Talented, undercoached
6. USA - Talented, very good defense and offense. I'm still puzzled as to how they only scored one touchdown against App.

7. Georgia Southern - Seems Helton may have asked to see more passing or Southern's staff decided to do it themselves. It seems like it's working. I wonder if they are trying to install some of Helton's offense during the week to see some basic plays and where players fit. Seems a Fritz type of offense may be what Helton tries to adopt. I could be totally wrong.

8. Arkansas State - well coached team who hasn't given up despite their record. Surprised Wyatt didn't play this week.

9. ULM - Punched above their weight class mid-season, they have fallen off as of late.

10. Texas State - Spavital may be done? Talented, undercoached team with a questionable recruiting strategy. Whomever is hired next will need to recruit high school players and that will take a few years.

Well Louisiana has at least one convincing win. I bet you remember it.

(11-14-2021 10:46 AM)FrankyP Wrote:  

(11-14-2021 09:57 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  

(11-14-2021 09:35 AM)FrankyP Wrote:  

(11-13-2021 10:36 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  1. UL (undefeated)
2. App (close win over Coastal at home)
3. Coastal (not a big difference in the top 3, really)
4. Georgia State (Seems like the obvious #4 to me)
5. Troy (by the win over South)
6. South Alabama
7. Georgia Southern
8. Texas State
9. Arkansas State
10. ULM

What??? You are downplaying app’s win over CCU. And you are also downplaying CCU’s 2nd loss. And you are also downplaying the fact that UL has beat not only App, but Ga St, and now Troy.

Add it all up and there is in fact a pretty ‘big difference’ between us and App (now beat them twice in a row, with the last one a complete blow-out), and there is also a pretty ‘big difference’ between App and CCU.

If we're comparing scores, you guys squeaked by us, South Alabama, Georgia State, and Ark State. App has beaten 3 of those teams convincingly and unfortunately might make it 4 in a couple of weeks. I'm rooting for you guys to finally get that outright title but you can't tell me you can have high confidence if you played App in the SBCCC in Lafayette this week it'd be a repeat of the last game.

One more thing...App and UL haven't had to deal with it a whole lot the last few seasons but in the era of the transfer portal it's harder to keep a serviceable backup QB.

1. Wins matter. Scores really don’t.
2. Its a coaching staff’s job to ensure a deep roster. Failure to do so is a failure of that coach/program. Period.

Scores don't matter in power rankings? That's news to me.

(11-14-2021 09:44 AM)FrankyP Wrote:  

(11-14-2021 09:43 AM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  

(11-14-2021 09:23 AM)warhawk09 Wrote:  Someone has to say it, league ain’t great this year.

Good chance we'll have three teams with 10 wins, which was mind blowing when it happened a couple years ago. Two teams have been ranked as well. We're all too jaded now to be happy about that.

Agreed. Although we need the west to step it up, overall a pretty good showing so far.

Some decent coaching hires will fix a lot of the West's problems (I'm including Troy here now). Troy, USA, and stAte will be a lot better in a few years time if we all have the right people in place. We're just being battered by the fallout from bad hires who hung around too long. I apologize for Troy taking so long to fix this issue and falling behind our brethren in the attempt.

(11-14-2021 11:49 AM)iStoopify Wrote:  

(11-14-2021 11:35 AM)FrankyP Wrote:  

(11-14-2021 11:14 AM)ericsaid Wrote:  1. Louisiana - continues to win.

2. Appy State - 41-13

3. Georgia State - was blown out by App but played Louisiana to a close game and beat Coastal. The win against Coastal may not have come with McCall at the helm but, and a big but, it was Georgia State's offense that has began to play at a high level.

4. Coastal - I figured that they would take a step back when everyone of their opponents had the same practice time to prepare and they have. Their defense lost them the game. Perhaps McCall gives Georgia State some less advantageous situations on offense but you can't give up 42 points and expect to win.

5. Troy - Talented, undercoached
6. USA - Talented, very good defense and offense. I'm still puzzled as to how they only scored one touchdown against App.

7. Georgia Southern - Seems Helton may have asked to see more passing or Southern's staff decided to do it themselves. It seems like it's working. I wonder if they are trying to install some of Helton's offense during the week to see some basic plays and where players fit. Seems a Fritz type of offense may be what Helton tries to adopt. I could be totally wrong.

8. Arkansas State - well coached team who hasn't given up despite their record. Surprised Wyatt didn't play this week.

9. ULM - Punched above their weight class mid-season, they have fallen off as of late.

10. Texas State - Spavital may be done? Talented, undercoached team with a questionable recruiting strategy. Whomever is hired next will need to recruit high school players and that will take a few years.

Went ahead and corrected a few things for you.

FrankyP, you are becoming the perpetual victim that you claim CCU is. Give it up. We know what you want to be called and we don’t care.

Lol. Okay appy fan.

And I corrected other things. Funny you didn’t address those, like the whole 41-13 beating appy took at CF.

(11-14-2021 11:58 AM)ragin4u Wrote:  

(11-14-2021 11:14 AM)ericsaid Wrote:  1. Louisiana - Laffyette - continues to win unconvincingly

2. App State - continues to win in convincing fashion. Turnovers are becoming a major concern. If App wants to win a conference championship, they will not have room for the same mistakes we continue to see. Ref's have been terrible in every conference game I've watched so far. Every App opponent stays relatively scotch free while App has several penalties called. I can't be convinced they play that much cleaner.

3. Georgia State - was blown out by App but played Louisiana to a close game and beat Coastal. The win against Coastal may not have come with McCall at the helm but, and a big but, it was Georgia State's offense that has began to play at a high level.

4. Coastal - I figured that they would take a step back when everyone of their opponents had the same practice time to prepare and they have. Their defense lost them the game. Perhaps McCall gives Georgia State some less advantageous situations on offense but you can't give up 42 points and expect to win.

5. Troy - Talented, undercoached
6. USA - Talented, very good defense and offense. I'm still puzzled as to how they only scored one touchdown against App.

7. Georgia Southern - Seems Helton may have asked to see more passing or Southern's staff decided to do it themselves. It seems like it's working. I wonder if they are trying to install some of Helton's offense during the week to see some basic plays and where players fit. Seems a Fritz type of offense may be what Helton tries to adopt. I could be totally wrong.

8. Arkansas State - well coached team who hasn't given up despite their record. Surprised Wyatt didn't play this week.

9. ULM - Punched above their weight class mid-season, they have fallen off as of late.

10. Texas State - Spavital may be done? Talented, undercoached team with a questionable recruiting strategy. Whomever is hired next will need to recruit high school players and that will take a few years.

Well Louisiana has at least one convincing win. I bet you remember it.

And since then? Unconvincing if not convincingly unspectacular.

(11-14-2021 02:16 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(11-14-2021 11:58 AM)ragin4u Wrote:  

(11-14-2021 11:14 AM)ericsaid Wrote:  1. Louisiana - Laffyette - continues to win unconvincingly

2. App State - continues to win in convincing fashion. Turnovers are becoming a major concern. If App wants to win a conference championship, they will not have room for the same mistakes we continue to see. Ref's have been terrible in every conference game I've watched so far. Every App opponent stays relatively scotch free while App has several penalties called. I can't be convinced they play that much cleaner.

3. Georgia State - was blown out by App but played Louisiana to a close game and beat Coastal. The win against Coastal may not have come with McCall at the helm but, and a big but, it was Georgia State's offense that has began to play at a high level.

4. Coastal - I figured that they would take a step back when everyone of their opponents had the same practice time to prepare and they have. Their defense lost them the game. Perhaps McCall gives Georgia State some less advantageous situations on offense but you can't give up 42 points and expect to win.

5. Troy - Talented, undercoached
6. USA - Talented, very good defense and offense. I'm still puzzled as to how they only scored one touchdown against App.

7. Georgia Southern - Seems Helton may have asked to see more passing or Southern's staff decided to do it themselves. It seems like it's working. I wonder if they are trying to install some of Helton's offense during the week to see some basic plays and where players fit. Seems a Fritz type of offense may be what Helton tries to adopt. I could be totally wrong.

8. Arkansas State - well coached team who hasn't given up despite their record. Surprised Wyatt didn't play this week.

9. ULM - Punched above their weight class mid-season, they have fallen off as of late.

10. Texas State - Spavital may be done? Talented, undercoached team with a questionable recruiting strategy. Whomever is hired next will need to recruit high school players and that will take a few years.

Well Louisiana has at least one convincing win. I bet you remember it.

And since then? Unconvincing if not convincingly unspectacular.

Lol. Well that was the most important game of the season for us. So there’s that.

(11-14-2021 02:16 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(11-14-2021 11:58 AM)ragin4u Wrote:  

(11-14-2021 11:14 AM)ericsaid Wrote:  1. Louisiana - Laffyette - continues to win unconvincingly

2. App State - continues to win in convincing fashion. Turnovers are becoming a major concern. If App wants to win a conference championship, they will not have room for the same mistakes we continue to see. Ref's have been terrible in every conference game I've watched so far. Every App opponent stays relatively scotch free while App has several penalties called. I can't be convinced they play that much cleaner.

3. Georgia State - was blown out by App but played Louisiana to a close game and beat Coastal. The win against Coastal may not have come with McCall at the helm but, and a big but, it was Georgia State's offense that has began to play at a high level.

4. Coastal - I figured that they would take a step back when everyone of their opponents had the same practice time to prepare and they have. Their defense lost them the game. Perhaps McCall gives Georgia State some less advantageous situations on offense but you can't give up 42 points and expect to win.

5. Troy - Talented, undercoached
6. USA - Talented, very good defense and offense. I'm still puzzled as to how they only scored one touchdown against App.

7. Georgia Southern - Seems Helton may have asked to see more passing or Southern's staff decided to do it themselves. It seems like it's working. I wonder if they are trying to install some of Helton's offense during the week to see some basic plays and where players fit. Seems a Fritz type of offense may be what Helton tries to adopt. I could be totally wrong.

8. Arkansas State - well coached team who hasn't given up despite their record. Surprised Wyatt didn't play this week.

9. ULM - Punched above their weight class mid-season, they have fallen off as of late.

10. Texas State - Spavital may be done? Talented, undercoached team with a questionable recruiting strategy. Whomever is hired next will need to recruit high school players and that will take a few years.

Well Louisiana has at least one convincing win. I bet you remember it.

And since then? Unconvincing if not convincingly unspectacular.

We're saving all our convincing for Dec 4.

(11-14-2021 02:20 PM)FrankyP Wrote:  Lol. Well that was the most important game of the season for us. So there’s that.

Yea. We are most people’s super bowl.

Troy first
Then stink
Then 12/4 we’ll give it another go.

(11-14-2021 02:28 PM)AppYosef Wrote:  

(11-14-2021 02:20 PM)FrankyP Wrote:  Lol. Well that was the most important game of the season for us. So there’s that.

Yea. We are most people’s super bowl.

Troy first
Then stink
Then 12/4 we’ll give it another go.

Well, you’ve certainly become ours. We respect your team a great deal. And we’re very happy that we’ve now won 2 in a row against y’all.
Soon to be 3 in a row.

(11-14-2021 02:14 PM)FrankyP Wrote:  

(11-14-2021 11:49 AM)iStoopify Wrote:  

(11-14-2021 11:35 AM)FrankyP Wrote:  

(11-14-2021 11:14 AM)ericsaid Wrote:  1. Louisiana - continues to win.

2. Appy State - 41-13

3. Georgia State - was blown out by App but played Louisiana to a close game and beat Coastal. The win against Coastal may not have come with McCall at the helm but, and a big but, it was Georgia State's offense that has began to play at a high level.

4. Coastal - I figured that they would take a step back when everyone of their opponents had the same practice time to prepare and they have. Their defense lost them the game. Perhaps McCall gives Georgia State some less advantageous situations on offense but you can't give up 42 points and expect to win.

5. Troy - Talented, undercoached
6. USA - Talented, very good defense and offense. I'm still puzzled as to how they only scored one touchdown against App.

7. Georgia Southern - Seems Helton may have asked to see more passing or Southern's staff decided to do it themselves. It seems like it's working. I wonder if they are trying to install some of Helton's offense during the week to see some basic plays and where players fit. Seems a Fritz type of offense may be what Helton tries to adopt. I could be totally wrong.

8. Arkansas State - well coached team who hasn't given up despite their record. Surprised Wyatt didn't play this week.

9. ULM - Punched above their weight class mid-season, they have fallen off as of late.

10. Texas State - Spavital may be done? Talented, undercoached team with a questionable recruiting strategy. Whomever is hired next will need to recruit high school players and that will take a few years.

Went ahead and corrected a few things for you.

FrankyP, you are becoming the perpetual victim that you claim CCU is. Give it up. We know what you want to be called and we don’t care.

Lol. Okay appy fan.

And I corrected other things. Funny you didn’t address those, like the whole 41-13 beating appy took at CF.

Hard to beat a team twice in a season.

If we play twice a year for the next 3 years and you win all 6 games, you still won’t be even be up in the series

(11-14-2021 02:34 PM)iStoopify Wrote:  

(11-14-2021 02:14 PM)FrankyP Wrote:  

(11-14-2021 11:49 AM)iStoopify Wrote:  

(11-14-2021 11:35 AM)FrankyP Wrote:  

(11-14-2021 11:14 AM)ericsaid Wrote:  1. Louisiana - continues to win.

2. Appy State - 41-13

3. Georgia State - was blown out by App but played Louisiana to a close game and beat Coastal. The win against Coastal may not have come with McCall at the helm but, and a big but, it was Georgia State's offense that has began to play at a high level.

4. Coastal - I figured that they would take a step back when everyone of their opponents had the same practice time to prepare and they have. Their defense lost them the game. Perhaps McCall gives Georgia State some less advantageous situations on offense but you can't give up 42 points and expect to win.

5. Troy - Talented, undercoached
6. USA - Talented, very good defense and offense. I'm still puzzled as to how they only scored one touchdown against App.

7. Georgia Southern - Seems Helton may have asked to see more passing or Southern's staff decided to do it themselves. It seems like it's working. I wonder if they are trying to install some of Helton's offense during the week to see some basic plays and where players fit. Seems a Fritz type of offense may be what Helton tries to adopt. I could be totally wrong.

8. Arkansas State - well coached team who hasn't given up despite their record. Surprised Wyatt didn't play this week.

9. ULM - Punched above their weight class mid-season, they have fallen off as of late.

10. Texas State - Spavital may be done? Talented, undercoached team with a questionable recruiting strategy. Whomever is hired next will need to recruit high school players and that will take a few years.

Went ahead and corrected a few things for you.

FrankyP, you are becoming the perpetual victim that you claim CCU is. Give it up. We know what you want to be called and we don’t care.

Lol. Okay appy fan.

And I corrected other things. Funny you didn’t address those, like the whole 41-13 beating appy took at CF.

Hard to beat a team twice in a season.

If we play twice a year for the next 3 years and you win all 6 games, you still won’t be even be up in the series

Well, hard to do, but certainly not impossible. Home field advantage will be a huge factor.
Even though it didn’t help y’all last year.

(11-14-2021 02:34 PM)iStoopify Wrote:  Hard to beat a team twice in a season.

Agree 100%. Last season, we beat MTSU 47-14 on the road to open the season, and it wasn't even that close, as MTSU scored late in the 4th. A few months later they beat us at home.

In 2017, this I this the one I always point to, Auburn beat #1 Georgia 40-7, and just three weeks later lost to Georgia in the SEC championship game 28-7.

It sounds like the Cajuns emptied their playbook against APP, and I'm positive the Cajuns won't win by that much again, if at all. I'd give APP the advantage in this game, personally.

(11-14-2021 03:27 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(11-14-2021 02:34 PM)iStoopify Wrote:  Hard to beat a team twice in a season.

Agree 100%. Last season, we beat MTSU 47-14 on the road to open the season, and it wasn't even that close, as MTSU scored late in the 4th. A few months later they beat us at home.

In 2017, this I this the one I always point to, Auburn beat #1 Georgia 40-7, and just three weeks later lost to Georgia in the SEC championship game 28-7.

It sounds like the Cajuns emptied their playbook against APP, and I'm positive the Cajuns won't win by that much again, if at all. I'd give APP the advantage in this game, personally.

Hmmm. Not sure where you heard that we emptied our playbook for the app game. Source? Also, you seem to be awfully sure that app hasn’t ‘empytied’ their playbook, so I wonder what evidence you’re basing that on? But since it’s so late in the season there is plenty of film to watch. For both teams.

Finally, I keep hearing this theory about beating a team twice in one year, decided to do some research on it. Found a guy who did a study on it. Hint: the whole thing is a myth, and not valid:




study disproving the ‘too hard to beat the same team twice’ myth

Yea, I don't think we emptied our playbook. I've been seeing the same play calls all season. We just executed on both sides of the ball perfectly.

(11-14-2021 03:57 PM)Complacent Cajun Wrote:  Yea, I don't think we emptied our playbook. I've been seeing the same play calls all season. We just executed on both sides of the ball perfectly.

Yeah, if anything I think we did less plays than before or since, due to the fact that we were hitting on all cylinders. I really do not know where he is getting data to prove his point. Anxious for him to fill us all in.

(11-14-2021 11:17 AM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  Fun fact, Troy, USA, and Coastal all have top 20 FBS defenses statistically. impressive.

NCAA FBS Total Defense Rankings
1 Wisconsin
2 Georgia
3 Oklahoma St.
4 Iowa St.
5 Air Force
6 Michigan
7 Houston
8 Minnesota
9 San Diego St.
10 Iowa
11 Alabama
12 Cincinnati
13 Liberty
14 Syracuse
15 Troy
16 Texas A&M
17 South Alabama
18 Coastal Carolina

CCU fans wouldn’t even agree they have a top 20 defense. They’d go as far as that was been a weakness.

(11-14-2021 03:53 PM)FrankyP Wrote:  

(11-14-2021 03:27 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  

(11-14-2021 02:34 PM)iStoopify Wrote:  Hard to beat a team twice in a season.

Agree 100%. Last season, we beat MTSU 47-14 on the road to open the season, and it wasn't even that close, as MTSU scored late in the 4th. A few months later they beat us at home.

In 2017, this I this the one I always point to, Auburn beat #1 Georgia 40-7, and just three weeks later lost to Georgia in the SEC championship game 28-7.

It sounds like the Cajuns emptied their playbook against APP, and I'm positive the Cajuns won't win by that much again, if at all. I'd give APP the advantage in this game, personally.

Finally, I keep hearing this theory about beating a team twice in one year, decided to do some research on it. Found a guy who did a study on it. Hint: the whole thing is a myth, and not valid:

study disproving the ‘too hard to beat the same team twice’ myth

That's a good read. I can't be mad at that. I did some further research and found that the winner of the regular season matchup is 25-15 in rematches in the CCGs, but only 4-10 in bowls. Either way, it furthers the point you've made. Thanks for the research.

While not relevant, it does appear there is an outlier in the FCS playoffs that I found intriguing:

https://www.mitchellrepublic.com/sports/...ing-season

SP+
28 CC
39 MU
40 APP
54 UL

90 GSU
91 Troy
100 USA
111 ODU
116 GS
119 USM
121 TXST
123 stAte
125 ULM
NR JMU

(11-14-2021 04:06 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  

(11-14-2021 11:17 AM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  Fun fact, Troy, USA, and Coastal all have top 20 FBS defenses statistically. impressive.

NCAA FBS Total Defense Rankings
1 Wisconsin
2 Georgia
3 Oklahoma St.
4 Iowa St.
5 Air Force
6 Michigan
7 Houston
8 Minnesota
9 San Diego St.
10 Iowa
11 Alabama
12 Cincinnati
13 Liberty
14 Syracuse
15 Troy
16 Texas A&M
17 South Alabama
18 Coastal Carolina

CCU fans wouldn’t even agree they have a top 20 defense. They’d go as far as that was been a weakness.

We don't even have a Top 75 defense in my honest opinion...we have to recruit bigger and stronger.