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(10-27-2021 12:30 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  

(10-27-2021 12:14 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-27-2021 11:23 AM)HawaiiMongoose Wrote:  Marshall on the clock.

Can't imagine ODU moving unless they knew Marshall was going too.
Only question seems to be whether JMU has any hangups with the state.

WKU seems to be the fallback if JMU has to pull out. But I doubt they will.

I agree. Would be a huge missed opportunity for JMU if state hang ups causes them to miss out b

(10-27-2021 12:34 PM)DFW HOYA Wrote:  Good for ODU football, bad for ODU basketball. The Sun Belt is a one bid league.

Conference USA is a 1 bid league too. How is joining the Sun Belt any different?

(10-27-2021 12:34 PM)DFW HOYA Wrote:  Good for ODU football, bad for ODU basketball. The Sun Belt is a one bid league.

And C-USA isn't? CUSA last time they got multi bids was 2012.

(10-27-2021 12:40 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  

(10-27-2021 12:34 PM)DFW HOYA Wrote:  Good for ODU football, bad for ODU basketball. The Sun Belt is a one bid league.

Conference USA is a 1 bid league too. How is joining the Sun Belt any different?

SBC has a TV deal that gives them more exposure. They are also positioned to get a even better TV deal and the SBC is stable with a nice footprint.

(10-27-2021 12:43 PM)Curtisc83 Wrote:  

(10-27-2021 12:40 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  

(10-27-2021 12:34 PM)DFW HOYA Wrote:  Good for ODU football, bad for ODU basketball. The Sun Belt is a one bid league.

Conference USA is a 1 bid league too. How is joining the Sun Belt any different?

SBC has a TV deal that gives them more exposure. They are also positioned to get a even better TV deal and the SBC is stable with a nice footprint.

Yeah, been mentioned many times. DFW Hoya is saying the SBC is somehow worse for their basketball team.

(10-27-2021 12:42 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(10-27-2021 12:34 PM)DFW HOYA Wrote:  Good for ODU football, bad for ODU basketball. The Sun Belt is a one bid league.

And C-USA isn't? CUSA last time they got multi bids was 2012.

2019 basketball attendance. Sun Belt is a big step down. ODU and Marshall have pretty well supported programs.

Sun Belt 2045.5
ULL 3596
ULM 3341
TX St. 3067
Troy 2368
Ga. Southern 1988
UTA 1881
Ga. St. 1716
UALR 1674
Arkansas St. 1593
CC 1199
USA 1097
App. St. 1026

CUSA 4106.875
ODU 6620
Marshall 6065
WKU 5809
UTEP 4677
MTSU 3734
USM 2786
LT 2170
FIU 994


AAC bound 2400.333333
UNCC 3696
UNT 3384
UAB 3037
Rice 1818
UTSA 1277
FAU 1190

(10-27-2021 12:40 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  

(10-27-2021 12:34 PM)DFW HOYA Wrote:  Good for ODU football, bad for ODU basketball. The Sun Belt is a one bid league.

Conference USA is a 1 bid league too. How is joining the Sun Belt any different?

Too many people around here still think it's 2005.

(10-27-2021 12:47 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  

(10-27-2021 12:43 PM)Curtisc83 Wrote:  

(10-27-2021 12:40 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  

(10-27-2021 12:34 PM)DFW HOYA Wrote:  Good for ODU football, bad for ODU basketball. The Sun Belt is a one bid league.

Conference USA is a 1 bid league too. How is joining the Sun Belt any different?

SBC has a TV deal that gives them more exposure. They are also positioned to get a even better TV deal and the SBC is stable with a nice footprint.

Yeah, been mentioned many times. DFW Hoya is saying the SBC is somehow worse for their basketball team.

Its all the same with 1 bid leagues but the FBS part matters with those tasty TV deals.

(10-27-2021 12:47 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-27-2021 12:42 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(10-27-2021 12:34 PM)DFW HOYA Wrote:  Good for ODU football, bad for ODU basketball. The Sun Belt is a one bid league.

And C-USA isn't? CUSA last time they got multi bids was 2012.

2019 basketball attendance. Sun Belt is a big step down. ODU and Marshall have pretty well supported programs.

Sun Belt 2045.5
ULL 3596
ULM 3341
TX St. 3067
Troy 2368
Ga. Southern 1988
UTA 1881
Ga. St. 1716
UALR 1674
Arkansas St. 1593
CC 1199
USA 1097
App. St. 1026

CUSA 4106.875
ODU 6620
Marshall 6065
WKU 5809
UTEP 4677
MTSU 3734
USM 2786
LT 2170
FIU 994


AAC bound 2400.333333
UNCC 3696
UNT 3384
UAB 3037
Rice 1818
UTSA 1277
FAU 1190

Still get the same amount of NCAA teams. Old Dominion was a 14 seed in 2019, same as SBC school Georgia State.

(10-27-2021 12:53 PM)Curtisc83 Wrote:  

(10-27-2021 12:47 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  

(10-27-2021 12:43 PM)Curtisc83 Wrote:  

(10-27-2021 12:40 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  

(10-27-2021 12:34 PM)DFW HOYA Wrote:  Good for ODU football, bad for ODU basketball. The Sun Belt is a one bid league.

Conference USA is a 1 bid league too. How is joining the Sun Belt any different?

SBC has a TV deal that gives them more exposure. They are also positioned to get a even better TV deal and the SBC is stable with a nice footprint.

Yeah, been mentioned many times. DFW Hoya is saying the SBC is somehow worse for their basketball team.

Its all the same with 1 bid leagues but the FBS part matters with those tasty TV deals.

We’re not talking about that though.

(10-27-2021 12:47 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-27-2021 12:42 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(10-27-2021 12:34 PM)DFW HOYA Wrote:  Good for ODU football, bad for ODU basketball. The Sun Belt is a one bid league.

And C-USA isn't? CUSA last time they got multi bids was 2012.

2019 basketball attendance. Sun Belt is a big step down. ODU and Marshall have pretty well supported programs.

Sun Belt 2045.5
ULL 3596
ULM 3341
TX St. 3067
Troy 2368
Ga. Southern 1988
UTA 1881
Ga. St. 1716
UALR 1674
Arkansas St. 1593
CC 1199
USA 1097
App. St. 1026

CUSA 4106.875
ODU 6620
Marshall 6065
WKU 5809
UTEP 4677
MTSU 3734
USM 2786
LT 2170
FIU 994


AAC bound 2400.333333
UNCC 3696
UNT 3384
UAB 3037
Rice 1818
UTSA 1277
FAU 1190

and you take ODU/Marshall out of CUSA and they're at 3477.
SBC becomes 2788

attendance sure- but that has nothing to do with it being a 1 bid league at all.

Also the attendance for ODU if anything will go up. ODU in 2019-20 played a home schedule conference of-
Middle Tennessee
UAB
Charlotte
FIU
Florida Atlantic
UTSA
UTEP
Florida Atlantic
UTSA

now they'll have a home schedule with
JMU
Marshall
App St
Georgia St
Georgia Southern

The JMU game will probably come close to selling out.

(10-27-2021 12:43 PM)Curtisc83 Wrote:  

(10-27-2021 12:40 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  

(10-27-2021 12:34 PM)DFW HOYA Wrote:  Good for ODU football, bad for ODU basketball. The Sun Belt is a one bid league.

Conference USA is a 1 bid league too. How is joining the Sun Belt any different?

SBC has a TV deal that gives them more exposure. They are also positioned to get a even better TV deal and the SBC is stable with a nice footprint.

Whats this exposure everyone talks about? People dont watch TV anymore anyways and more and more of us dont even have cable anymore.

CUSA will lose over half their schools, not sure how the remaining 5-6 schools compare to the Sun Belt as it will be at 14.

(10-27-2021 01:07 PM)PicksUp Wrote:  

(10-27-2021 12:43 PM)Curtisc83 Wrote:  

(10-27-2021 12:40 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  

(10-27-2021 12:34 PM)DFW HOYA Wrote:  Good for ODU football, bad for ODU basketball. The Sun Belt is a one bid league.

Conference USA is a 1 bid league too. How is joining the Sun Belt any different?

SBC has a TV deal that gives them more exposure. They are also positioned to get a even better TV deal and the SBC is stable with a nice footprint.

Whats this exposure everyone talks about? People dont watch TV anymore anyways and more and more of us dont even have cable anymore.

CUSA will lose over half their schools, not sure how the remaining 5-6 schools compare to the Sun Belt as it will be at 14.

They are on ESPNU instead of CBSSN. So its fictional. Sun Belt does get their T/W games. Except for that, I don't think there is much difference now.

Not clear CUSA will have enough left now, however.

(10-27-2021 01:07 PM)PicksUp Wrote:  

(10-27-2021 12:43 PM)Curtisc83 Wrote:  

(10-27-2021 12:40 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  

(10-27-2021 12:34 PM)DFW HOYA Wrote:  Good for ODU football, bad for ODU basketball. The Sun Belt is a one bid league.

Conference USA is a 1 bid league too. How is joining the Sun Belt any different?

SBC has a TV deal that gives them more exposure. They are also positioned to get a even better TV deal and the SBC is stable with a nice footprint.

Whats this exposure everyone talks about? People dont watch TV anymore anyways and more and more of us dont even have cable anymore.

CUSA will lose over half their schools, not sure how the remaining 5-6 schools compare to the Sun Belt as it will be at 14.

ESPN Networks TV and Streaming vs CBS something or another and Facebook live.

(10-27-2021 01:15 PM)Curtisc83 Wrote:  

(10-27-2021 01:07 PM)PicksUp Wrote:  

(10-27-2021 12:43 PM)Curtisc83 Wrote:  

(10-27-2021 12:40 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  

(10-27-2021 12:34 PM)DFW HOYA Wrote:  Good for ODU football, bad for ODU basketball. The Sun Belt is a one bid league.

Conference USA is a 1 bid league too. How is joining the Sun Belt any different?

SBC has a TV deal that gives them more exposure. They are also positioned to get a even better TV deal and the SBC is stable with a nice footprint.

Whats this exposure everyone talks about? People dont watch TV anymore anyways and more and more of us dont even have cable anymore.

CUSA will lose over half their schools, not sure how the remaining 5-6 schools compare to the Sun Belt as it will be at 14.

ESPN Networks TV and Streaming vs CBS something or another and Facebook live.

CUSA non-network games are mostly on ESPN+, just like Sun Belt games.

(10-27-2021 01:16 AM)esayem Wrote:  Such an AAC move by the Sun Belt.

Well they do have solid basketball at least, plus now the Sun Belt will have enough to restart mens soccer (supposedly a big sticking point with Marshall), so its still a value add beyond "markets" and "growth potential".

The lede of the ESPN article had me confused at first:

"Old Dominion will join the Sun Belt Conference no later than July 1, 2023, the conference announced Wednesday, which will increase its membership to 14 schools."

I didn't see any reference to JMU or Marshall and it took me a minute to realize they were including UT-Arlington and Little Rock in the 14 total.