USM went to the conference that will compete annually with the MWC for the NY6 bowl & the 6th slot in an expanded CFP while we play Rice, North TX & Charlotte on ESPN+ before a 12K live audience.

(10-23-2021 06:32 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  USM went to the conference that will compete annually with the MWC for the NY6 bowl & the 6th slot in an expanded CFP while we play Rice, North TX & Charlotte on ESPN+ before a 12K live audience.

Subtract the defectors/add the newcomers and I think the AAC is still a higher ranked conference than the Sun Belt this year. MWC may have an edge this year, but not by leaps and bounds.

USM didn’t get in the same way App St, Coastal and Louisiana didn’t get in. All rural schools. It’s really not that hard to figure out.

(10-23-2021 08:12 AM)Browning Hall Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 06:32 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  USM went to the conference that will compete annually with the MWC for the NY6 bowl & the 6th slot in an expanded CFP while we play Rice, North TX & Charlotte on ESPN+ before a 12K live audience.

Subtract the defectors/add the newcomers and I think the AAC is still a higher ranked conference than the Sun Belt this year. MWC may have an edge this year, but not by leaps and bounds.

Have heard this logic time & again but the NY6 bowl & expanded CFP slot will be determined by the highest ranking G5 school not some conference avg.... we're screwed by ESPN & their perception of TV viewership vs choosing the most competitive available FB & MBB programs.

USM is currently 1-6. Don’t get why everyone is so up in arms.

(10-23-2021 08:12 AM)Browning Hall Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 06:32 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  USM went to the conference that will compete annually with the MWC for the NY6 bowl & the 6th slot in an expanded CFP while we play Rice, North TX & Charlotte on ESPN+ before a 12K live audience.

Subtract the defectors/add the newcomers and I think the AAC is still a higher ranked conference than the Sun Belt this year. MWC may have an edge this year, but not by leaps and bounds.

Yes. The AAC is a solid notch ahead of the Sun Belt

If Memphis, SMU and/or Temple or the like leave that changes but for now it is not really that close

Note that while the Big 12 feels like a big step up when Oklahoma and Texas leave, much less so. And if Kansas and WV leave that is the whole point that the CURRENT AAC is remarkably close

Tiger 87
TIGERNATION is obviously going to play one CUPCAKE, it should be USM,
Ike believes they lead us in series wins, maybe we could take the lead

(10-23-2021 09:33 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 08:12 AM)Browning Hall Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 06:32 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  USM went to the conference that will compete annually with the MWC for the NY6 bowl & the 6th slot in an expanded CFP while we play Rice, North TX & Charlotte on ESPN+ before a 12K live audience.

Subtract the defectors/add the newcomers and I think the AAC is still a higher ranked conference than the Sun Belt this year. MWC may have an edge this year, but not by leaps and bounds.

Have heard this logic time & again but the NY6 bowl & expanded CFP slot will be determined by the highest ranking G5 school not some conference avg.... we're screwed by ESPN & their perception of TV viewership vs choosing the most competitive available FB & MBB programs.

I get it that they don’t invite the entire conference to the bowl, but wouldn’t the highest ranked conference typically have the best chance of producing the highest ranked team? At least on average?

(10-23-2021 10:32 AM)Browning Hall Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 09:33 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 08:12 AM)Browning Hall Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 06:32 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  USM went to the conference that will compete annually with the MWC for the NY6 bowl & the 6th slot in an expanded CFP while we play Rice, North TX & Charlotte on ESPN+ before a 12K live audience.

Subtract the defectors/add the newcomers and I think the AAC is still a higher ranked conference than the Sun Belt this year. MWC may have an edge this year, but not by leaps and bounds.

Have heard this logic time & again but the NY6 bowl & expanded CFP slot will be determined by the highest ranking G5 school not some conference avg.... we're screwed by ESPN & their perception of TV viewership vs choosing the most competitive available FB & MBB programs.

I get it that they don’t invite the entire conference to the bowl, but wouldn’t the highest ranked conference typically have the best chance of producing the highest ranked team? At least on average?

That's is the case for the strongest G5 conference & the AAC has generally been given the benefit of that logic by its champ even being able to lose a game & still be the highest ranked G5 but it won't be the case with the departure of Cincy, UCF & UH. And while some computer generated statistical avg may still show the AAC the strongest now, it won't when we no longer play CINCY, UCF & UH - and are dragged down by playing Rice, Charlotte, NoTX.

(10-23-2021 01:06 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 10:32 AM)Browning Hall Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 09:33 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 08:12 AM)Browning Hall Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 06:32 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  USM went to the conference that will compete annually with the MWC for the NY6 bowl & the 6th slot in an expanded CFP while we play Rice, North TX & Charlotte on ESPN+ before a 12K live audience.

Subtract the defectors/add the newcomers and I think the AAC is still a higher ranked conference than the Sun Belt this year. MWC may have an edge this year, but not by leaps and bounds.

Have heard this logic time & again but the NY6 bowl & expanded CFP slot will be determined by the highest ranking G5 school not some conference avg.... we're screwed by ESPN & their perception of TV viewership vs choosing the most competitive available FB & MBB programs.

I get it that they don’t invite the entire conference to the bowl, but wouldn’t the highest ranked conference typically have the best chance of producing the highest ranked team? At least on average?

That's is the case for the strongest G5 conference & the AAC has generally been given the benefit of that logic by its champ even being able to lose a game & still be the highest ranked G5 but it won't be the case with the departure of Cincy, UCF & UH. And while some computer generated statistical avg may still show the AAC the strongest now, it won't when we no longer play CINCY, UCF & UH - and are dragged down by playing Rice, Charlotte, NoTX.

Those teams would probably be fine in the Sun Belt. Have you looked at the schedule the Sun Belt teams play?

(10-23-2021 01:40 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 01:06 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 10:32 AM)Browning Hall Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 09:33 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 08:12 AM)Browning Hall Wrote:  Subtract the defectors/add the newcomers and I think the AAC is still a higher ranked conference than the Sun Belt this year. MWC may have an edge this year, but not by leaps and bounds.

Have heard this logic time & again but the NY6 bowl & expanded CFP slot will be determined by the highest ranking G5 school not some conference avg.... we're screwed by ESPN & their perception of TV viewership vs choosing the most competitive available FB & MBB programs.

I get it that they don’t invite the entire conference to the bowl, but wouldn’t the highest ranked conference typically have the best chance of producing the highest ranked team? At least on average?

That's is the case for the strongest G5 conference & the AAC has generally been given the benefit of that logic by its champ even being able to lose a game & still be the highest ranked G5 but it won't be the case with the departure of Cincy, UCF & UH. And while some computer generated statistical avg may still show the AAC the strongest now, it won't when we no longer play CINCY, UCF & UH - and are dragged down by playing Rice, Charlotte, NoTX.

Those teams would probably be fine in the Sun Belt. Have you looked at the schedule the Sun Belt teams play?

Yep but App St & CC seem to be media favorites, get ranked early & they generally do play at least one respectable OOC game.

(10-23-2021 03:05 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 01:40 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 01:06 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 10:32 AM)Browning Hall Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 09:33 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  Have heard this logic time & again but the NY6 bowl & expanded CFP slot will be determined by the highest ranking G5 school not some conference avg.... we're screwed by ESPN & their perception of TV viewership vs choosing the most competitive available FB & MBB programs.

I get it that they don’t invite the entire conference to the bowl, but wouldn’t the highest ranked conference typically have the best chance of producing the highest ranked team? At least on average?

That's is the case for the strongest G5 conference & the AAC has generally been given the benefit of that logic by its champ even being able to lose a game & still be the highest ranked G5 but it won't be the case with the departure of Cincy, UCF & UH. And while some computer generated statistical avg may still show the AAC the strongest now, it won't when we no longer play CINCY, UCF & UH - and are dragged down by playing Rice, Charlotte, NoTX.

Those teams would probably be fine in the Sun Belt. Have you looked at the schedule the Sun Belt teams play?

Yep but App St & CC seem to be media favorites, get ranked early & they generally do play at least one respectable OOC game.

I don’t disagree with any of that. I actually like that conference now and I never thought that possible. They play good football. I don’t think any of them become a perennial top 20 team, but the conference is definitely on the rise. Will it last? As we well know, every successful coach will be hired away and they’re just one bad hire away from…...yuck.

If you think the media darling of today will be the media darling two years from now, you don't understand how fickle people are.

(10-23-2021 08:32 PM)Psicosis Wrote:  If you think the media darling of today will be the media darling two years from now, you don't understand how fickle people are.

App St has been a media darling since they beat Ohio St in 2010 I think. That's a little more than 2 yrs - and they continue to win. Same could be said for Boise.

(10-23-2021 01:06 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 10:32 AM)Browning Hall Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 09:33 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 08:12 AM)Browning Hall Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 06:32 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  USM went to the conference that will compete annually with the MWC for the NY6 bowl & the 6th slot in an expanded CFP while we play Rice, North TX & Charlotte on ESPN+ before a 12K live audience.

Subtract the defectors/add the newcomers and I think the AAC is still a higher ranked conference than the Sun Belt this year. MWC may have an edge this year, but not by leaps and bounds.

Have heard this logic time & again but the NY6 bowl & expanded CFP slot will be determined by the highest ranking G5 school not some conference avg.... we're screwed by ESPN & their perception of TV viewership vs choosing the most competitive available FB & MBB programs.

I get it that they don’t invite the entire conference to the bowl, but wouldn’t the highest ranked conference typically have the best chance of producing the highest ranked team? At least on average?

That's is the case for the strongest G5 conference & the AAC has generally been given the benefit of that logic by its champ even being able to lose a game & still be the highest ranked G5 but it won't be the case with the departure of Cincy, UCF & UH. And while some computer generated statistical avg may still show the AAC the strongest now, it won't when we no longer play CINCY, UCF & UH - and are dragged down by playing Rice, Charlotte, NoTX.

Simply not true.
I know we're all disappointed, but have you even studied the metrics, or just firing off a bitter opinion?
The AAC will still be clearly above the SBC.
You talk up CC and AppSt like they have been good forever and pull the SBC up.
But you're not giving that same credit to the ability of Memphis, SMU, Navy to pull up the AAC.
Heck, SMU and UTSA are currently ranked ahead of AppSt, Boise, Houston and UCF.
If Cincy were already gone, it would be a battle between SMU, UTSA, CC, and SDSU for the slot.
With the AAC having 2 of those teams set to likely play each other in the CCG, it would likely be for the access slot.

(10-23-2021 09:47 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 01:06 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 10:32 AM)Browning Hall Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 09:33 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(10-23-2021 08:12 AM)Browning Hall Wrote:  Subtract the defectors/add the newcomers and I think the AAC is still a higher ranked conference than the Sun Belt this year. MWC may have an edge this year, but not by leaps and bounds.

Have heard this logic time & again but the NY6 bowl & expanded CFP slot will be determined by the highest ranking G5 school not some conference avg.... we're screwed by ESPN & their perception of TV viewership vs choosing the most competitive available FB & MBB programs.

I get it that they don’t invite the entire conference to the bowl, but wouldn’t the highest ranked conference typically have the best chance of producing the highest ranked team? At least on average?

That's is the case for the strongest G5 conference & the AAC has generally been given the benefit of that logic by its champ even being able to lose a game & still be the highest ranked G5 but it won't be the case with the departure of Cincy, UCF & UH. And while some computer generated statistical avg may still show the AAC the strongest now, it won't when we no longer play CINCY, UCF & UH - and are dragged down by playing Rice, Charlotte, NoTX.

Simply not true.
I know we're all disappointed, but have you even studied the metrics, or just firing off a bitter opinion?
The AAC will still be clearly above the SBC.
You talk up CC and AppSt like they have been good forever and pull the SBC up.
But you're not giving that same credit to the ability of Memphis, SMU, Navy to pull up the AAC.
Heck, SMU and UTSA are currently ranked ahead of AppSt, Boise, Houston and UCF.
If Cincy were already gone, it would be a battle between SMU, UTSA, CC, and SDSU for the slot.
With the AAC having 2 of those teams set to likely play each other in the CCG, it would likely be for the access slot.

Problem is the voting coaches, media & CFP don't look at the metrics when they vote.

(10-23-2021 09:40 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  USM is currently 1-6. Don’t get why everyone is so up in arms.

new coaching staff, new system.
Its not one that a QB picks up on right away.
There is a major improvement seen in QBs in year 2. We've been spoiled recently in our run with good QBs.