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RE: The Time is Now for AAC Schools To Build On-Campus Stadiums
(09-20-2021 01:52 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  
(09-20-2021 11:45 AM)vick mike Wrote:  Yes, an on campus stadium for Temple would be a huge plus for the program. It would improve recruiting and indicate the University’s commitment to football and athletics. It would improve student and alumni engagement with campus. A UCF type stadium would go a long way and be a less expensive option than steel, masonry and concrete.
Why hasn’t it happened?
1.Neighborhood and political resistance.
2. Small but loud anti-athletics students (stadium stompers)
3. Lack of institutional fortitude (see 1 & 2)
4. Local journalistic antagonism towards Temple football (many reporters believe Temple should stick to rowing and basketball, since football is covered by psu and the Eagles)
These are not insignificant obstacles. Additionally, Temples urban campus offers design and construction difficulties. However, Temple faced similar obstacles when they built the Liacoras Center for basketball. Maybe our new president, who among other accomplishments was an athlete at Stanford, will be a proponent.

Wow. If you re-wrote that post, and changed out Memphis for each instance of Temple, the post would be just as true. We are in the same boat. Exactly.

How far is Liberty Bowl (Fed Ex field) from your campus?
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(09-20-2021 03:05 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  
(09-20-2021 02:36 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  
(09-20-2021 10:45 AM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  
(09-20-2021 10:35 AM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  
(09-20-2021 10:32 AM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  No but they could have not killed a $1 billion tv deal…


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Ok man if you really believe that USF that was a late addition to BigEast, only after BC left and that the basketball C7 held their nose to add because our basketball was slightly better than UCF’s would then have the power to KO a billion dollar tv deal for the conference. If you really believe USF had that power, I got some land south of the Tamiami Trail for sale for you.


Well were is you evidence they didn’t? Because there is plenty of evidence they did…


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What evidence is that? McMurphy reporting it and a few others repeating his garbage.
Honestly I don’t care if you want to believe that drivel or not. I don’t need to prove anything, I was pointing out how irrational the point is. But at the end is water under the bridge. I rather focus on 5he now.

Just more stupid **** UCF fans spewing lies and being ******** in every thread.

I’ve never seen a program get everything they want and then still act like petulant children with inferiority complex.

(And ya, I am a psychologist and can diagnose this… not even joking)

Pretty sure UCF wanted to get into BE so not everything. Good luck to usf.
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(09-20-2021 03:26 PM)Sideshow2313 Wrote:  
(09-20-2021 03:05 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  
(09-20-2021 02:36 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  
(09-20-2021 10:45 AM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  
(09-20-2021 10:35 AM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  Ok man if you really believe that USF that was a late addition to BigEast, only after BC left and that the basketball C7 held their nose to add because our basketball was slightly better than UCF’s would then have the power to KO a billion dollar tv deal for the conference. If you really believe USF had that power, I got some land south of the Tamiami Trail for sale for you.


Well were is you evidence they didn’t? Because there is plenty of evidence they did…


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What evidence is that? McMurphy reporting it and a few others repeating his garbage.
Honestly I don’t care if you want to believe that drivel or not. I don’t need to prove anything, I was pointing out how irrational the point is. But at the end is water under the bridge. I rather focus on 5he now.

Just more stupid **** UCF fans spewing lies and being ******** in every thread.

I’ve never seen a program get everything they want and then still act like petulant children with inferiority complex.

(And ya, I am a psychologist and can diagnose this… not even joking)

Pretty sure UCF wanted to get into BE so not everything. Good luck to usf.

Touché

Good luck to you too.
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(09-20-2021 03:04 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  
(09-20-2021 02:29 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  
(09-20-2021 02:28 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  NO were just stupid enough to be ucf fans who believe a 25 year old program should have everything a much older program has.

We already are building a IPF before UCF ever did and have $20 million toward a stadium we expect to be in for the 2025/26 season... which is fast than UCF did, but ya man... let stop with facts.


Annnd what how does that disprove anything I said?


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Wasn’t coming at you. Our messages crossed… one level up was the target there.


I figured, but wasn’t sure. It’s all good though.


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(09-20-2021 02:36 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  
(09-20-2021 10:45 AM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  
(09-20-2021 10:35 AM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  
(09-20-2021 10:32 AM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  
(09-20-2021 10:32 AM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  LOL. Sure USF could tell the BigEast schools what to do. That’s pretty funny.


No but they could have not killed a $1 billion tv deal…


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Ok man if you really believe that USF that was a late addition to BigEast, only after BC left and that the basketball C7 held their nose to add because our basketball was slightly better than UCF’s would then have the power to KO a billion dollar tv deal for the conference. If you really believe USF had that power, I got some land south of the Tamiami Trail for sale for you.


Well were is you evidence they didn’t? Because there is plenty of evidence they did…


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What evidence is that? McMurphy reporting it and a few others repeating his garbage.
Honestly I don’t care if you want to believe that drivel or not. I don’t need to prove anything, I was pointing out how irrational the point is. But at the end is water under the bridge. I rather focus on 5he now.


I mean it’s not irrational to believe a school would do whatever it took to keep it’s competition down. I’m not even sure there is anything you can claim was irrational about what usf did. It turned out to be a bad decision, but you definitely can’t claim that it would be irrational.


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(09-20-2021 02:18 PM)CLTPirate Wrote:  As an ECU fan I can definitely say having a good stadium is not the "ticket to moving up"

Yeah having 70k students is apparently.
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(09-20-2021 03:33 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  
(09-20-2021 02:36 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  
(09-20-2021 10:45 AM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  
(09-20-2021 10:35 AM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  
(09-20-2021 10:32 AM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  No but they could have not killed a $1 billion tv deal…


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Ok man if you really believe that USF that was a late addition to BigEast, only after BC left and that the basketball C7 held their nose to add because our basketball was slightly better than UCF’s would then have the power to KO a billion dollar tv deal for the conference. If you really believe USF had that power, I got some land south of the Tamiami Trail for sale for you.


Well were is you evidence they didn’t? Because there is plenty of evidence they did…


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What evidence is that? McMurphy reporting it and a few others repeating his garbage.
Honestly I don’t care if you want to believe that drivel or not. I don’t need to prove anything, I was pointing out how irrational the point is. But at the end is water under the bridge. I rather focus on 5he now.


I mean it’s not irrational to believe a school would do whatever it took to keep it’s competition down. I’m not even sure there is anything you can claim was irrational about what usf did. It turned out to be a bad decision, but you definitely can’t claim that it would be irrational.


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No what is irrational is to think that USF had the power to overrule the rest of the Big East into such a decision. We saw the power the C7 exerted when adding new members and if USF had such power why didn’t they block UCF again when they had to reformed the league? You figured that with the departures USF would have had more on a voice in blocking them.
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(09-20-2021 05:15 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  
(09-20-2021 03:33 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  
(09-20-2021 02:36 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  
(09-20-2021 10:45 AM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  
(09-20-2021 10:35 AM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  Ok man if you really believe that USF that was a late addition to BigEast, only after BC left and that the basketball C7 held their nose to add because our basketball was slightly better than UCF’s would then have the power to KO a billion dollar tv deal for the conference. If you really believe USF had that power, I got some land south of the Tamiami Trail for sale for you.


Well were is you evidence they didn’t? Because there is plenty of evidence they did…


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What evidence is that? McMurphy reporting it and a few others repeating his garbage.
Honestly I don’t care if you want to believe that drivel or not. I don’t need to prove anything, I was pointing out how irrational the point is. But at the end is water under the bridge. I rather focus on 5he now.


I mean it’s not irrational to believe a school would do whatever it took to keep it’s competition down. I’m not even sure there is anything you can claim was irrational about what usf did. It turned out to be a bad decision, but you definitely can’t claim that it would be irrational.


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No what is irrational is to think that USF had the power to overrule the rest of the Big East into such a decision. We saw the power the C7 exerted when adding new members and if USF had such power why didn’t they block UCF again when they had to reformed the league? You figured that with the departures USF would have had more on a voice in blocking them.


Because by that point it was about desperation to survive what USF wanted no longer mattered. Weather you like it or not it’s what happened and this is coming from an outsider that’s glad it did.

If I’m wrong show me evidence. Opinions don’t equal evidence.


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(09-20-2021 02:28 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  NO were just not stupid enough to be ucf fans who believe a 25 year old program should have everything a much older program has.

We already are building a IPF before UCF ever did and have $20 million toward a stadium we expect to be in for the 2025/26 season... which is fast than UCF did, but ya man... let stop with facts.

We built our IPF in '05, first school in Florida to build one... but you know facts and stuff.
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(09-20-2021 05:18 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  
(09-20-2021 05:15 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  
(09-20-2021 03:33 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  
(09-20-2021 02:36 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  
(09-20-2021 10:45 AM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  Well were is you evidence they didn’t? Because there is plenty of evidence they did…


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What evidence is that? McMurphy reporting it and a few others repeating his garbage.
Honestly I don’t care if you want to believe that drivel or not. I don’t need to prove anything, I was pointing out how irrational the point is. But at the end is water under the bridge. I rather focus on 5he now.


I mean it’s not irrational to believe a school would do whatever it took to keep it’s competition down. I’m not even sure there is anything you can claim was irrational about what usf did. It turned out to be a bad decision, but you definitely can’t claim that it would be irrational.


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No what is irrational is to think that USF had the power to overrule the rest of the Big East into such a decision. We saw the power the C7 exerted when adding new members and if USF had such power why didn’t they block UCF again when they had to reformed the league? You figured that with the departures USF would have had more on a voice in blocking them.


Because by that point it was about desperation to survive what USF wanted no longer mattered. Weather you like it or not it’s what happened and this is coming from an outsider that’s glad it did.

If I’m wrong show me evidence. Opinions don’t equal evidence.


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LOL. As I said I don’t give a crap. I was pointing out the irrationality of the situation. So USF was strong enough to block the 14 million tv deal that according to you would have kept BigEast afloat but then didn’t have the power to block them after the defections.
If the Big East wanted UCF for that 14 million contract they would have overruled USF. The fact they didn’t tells you a lot
The Big East didn’t need UCF to save it, in fact our tv payout was crap those few years. But hey sure believe what you want to believe.
As I said that’s in the past and doesn’t matter now.
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(09-20-2021 05:22 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  
(09-20-2021 05:18 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  
(09-20-2021 05:15 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  
(09-20-2021 03:33 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  
(09-20-2021 02:36 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  What evidence is that? McMurphy reporting it and a few others repeating his garbage.
Honestly I don’t care if you want to believe that drivel or not. I don’t need to prove anything, I was pointing out how irrational the point is. But at the end is water under the bridge. I rather focus on 5he now.


I mean it’s not irrational to believe a school would do whatever it took to keep it’s competition down. I’m not even sure there is anything you can claim was irrational about what usf did. It turned out to be a bad decision, but you definitely can’t claim that it would be irrational.


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No what is irrational is to think that USF had the power to overrule the rest of the Big East into such a decision. We saw the power the C7 exerted when adding new members and if USF had such power why didn’t they block UCF again when they had to reformed the league? You figured that with the departures USF would have had more on a voice in blocking them.


Because by that point it was about desperation to survive what USF wanted no longer mattered. Weather you like it or not it’s what happened and this is coming from an outsider that’s glad it did.

If I’m wrong show me evidence. Opinions don’t equal evidence.


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LOL. As I said I don’t give a crap. I was pointing out the irrationality of the situation. So USF was strong enough to block the 14 million tv deal that according to you would have kept BigEast afloat but then didn’t have the power to block them after the defections.
The Big East didn’t need UCF to save it, in fact our tv payout was crap those few years. But hey sure believe what you want to believe.
As I said that’s in the past and doesn’t matter now.


I mean all of that was literally in the article from people with sources… it definitely wasn’t something I made
up. And I never said it would keep it afloat, I said we will never know if it would have because USF killed it before it could even happen.


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(09-20-2021 05:27 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  
(09-20-2021 05:22 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  
(09-20-2021 05:18 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  
(09-20-2021 05:15 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  
(09-20-2021 03:33 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  I mean it’s not irrational to believe a school would do whatever it took to keep it’s competition down. I’m not even sure there is anything you can claim was irrational about what usf did. It turned out to be a bad decision, but you definitely can’t claim that it would be irrational.


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No what is irrational is to think that USF had the power to overrule the rest of the Big East into such a decision. We saw the power the C7 exerted when adding new members and if USF had such power why didn’t they block UCF again when they had to reformed the league? You figured that with the departures USF would have had more on a voice in blocking them.


Because by that point it was about desperation to survive what USF wanted no longer mattered. Weather you like it or not it’s what happened and this is coming from an outsider that’s glad it did.

If I’m wrong show me evidence. Opinions don’t equal evidence.


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LOL. As I said I don’t give a crap. I was pointing out the irrationality of the situation. So USF was strong enough to block the 14 million tv deal that according to you would have kept BigEast afloat but then didn’t have the power to block them after the defections.
The Big East didn’t need UCF to save it, in fact our tv payout was crap those few years. But hey sure believe what you want to believe.
As I said that’s in the past and doesn’t matter now.


I mean all of that was literally in the article from people with sources… it definitely wasn’t something I made
up. And I never said it would keep it afloat, I said we will never know if it would have because USF killed it before it could even happen.


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Here are some other sources you should read.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/8560...e-big-east
A lot of those sources were from Brett McMurphy who had an axe to grind with USF and was then picked up and repeated by others.
Look at the link I posted it wasn’t USF who turned down ESPN’s offer. It was Pitt and Cuse who were already behind the backs working on leaving for ACC and it didn’t matter if UCF came or not.
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(09-20-2021 05:31 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  
(09-20-2021 05:27 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  
(09-20-2021 05:22 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  
(09-20-2021 05:18 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  
(09-20-2021 05:15 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  No what is irrational is to think that USF had the power to overrule the rest of the Big East into such a decision. We saw the power the C7 exerted when adding new members and if USF had such power why didn’t they block UCF again when they had to reformed the league? You figured that with the departures USF would have had more on a voice in blocking them.


Because by that point it was about desperation to survive what USF wanted no longer mattered. Weather you like it or not it’s what happened and this is coming from an outsider that’s glad it did.

If I’m wrong show me evidence. Opinions don’t equal evidence.


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LOL. As I said I don’t give a crap. I was pointing out the irrationality of the situation. So USF was strong enough to block the 14 million tv deal that according to you would have kept BigEast afloat but then didn’t have the power to block them after the defections.
The Big East didn’t need UCF to save it, in fact our tv payout was crap those few years. But hey sure believe what you want to believe.
As I said that’s in the past and doesn’t matter now.


I mean all of that was literally in the article from people with sources… it definitely wasn’t something I made
up. And I never said it would keep it afloat, I said we will never know if it would have because USF killed it before it could even happen.


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Here are some other sources you should read.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/8560...e-big-east
A lot of those sources were from Brett McMurphy who had an axe to grind with USF and was then picked up and repeated by others.
Look at the link I posted it wasn’t USF who turned down ESPN’s offer. It was Pitt and Cuse who were already behind the backs working on leaving for ACC and it didn’t matter if UCF came or not.


Don’t see any mention one way or another about ucf, and the link to article about pitt killing the deal no longer works. So other than a bunch of opinions from a georgetown writer that openly hates pitt I guess we will never know the truth.


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(09-20-2021 05:37 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  
(09-20-2021 05:31 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  
(09-20-2021 05:27 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  
(09-20-2021 05:22 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  
(09-20-2021 05:18 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  Because by that point it was about desperation to survive what USF wanted no longer mattered. Weather you like it or not it’s what happened and this is coming from an outsider that’s glad it did.

If I’m wrong show me evidence. Opinions don’t equal evidence.


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LOL. As I said I don’t give a crap. I was pointing out the irrationality of the situation. So USF was strong enough to block the 14 million tv deal that according to you would have kept BigEast afloat but then didn’t have the power to block them after the defections.
The Big East didn’t need UCF to save it, in fact our tv payout was crap those few years. But hey sure believe what you want to believe.
As I said that’s in the past and doesn’t matter now.


I mean all of that was literally in the article from people with sources… it definitely wasn’t something I made
up. And I never said it would keep it afloat, I said we will never know if it would have because USF killed it before it could even happen.


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Here are some other sources you should read.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/8560...e-big-east
A lot of those sources were from Brett McMurphy who had an axe to grind with USF and was then picked up and repeated by others.
Look at the link I posted it wasn’t USF who turned down ESPN’s offer. It was Pitt and Cuse who were already behind the backs working on leaving for ACC and it didn’t matter if UCF came or not.


Don’t see any mention one way or another about ucf, and the link to article about pitt killing the deal no longer works. So other than a bunch of opinions from a georgetown writer that openly hates pitt I guess we will never know the truth.


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LOL
https://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/18/sport...burgh.html
Here is another saying exactly the same thing. Pitt AD led the charge in turning down ESPN offer while 2orking behind the backs with Cuse to leave for ACC.
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(09-20-2021 05:40 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  
(09-20-2021 05:37 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  
(09-20-2021 05:31 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  
(09-20-2021 05:27 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  
(09-20-2021 05:22 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  LOL. As I said I don’t give a crap. I was pointing out the irrationality of the situation. So USF was strong enough to block the 14 million tv deal that according to you would have kept BigEast afloat but then didn’t have the power to block them after the defections.
The Big East didn’t need UCF to save it, in fact our tv payout was crap those few years. But hey sure believe what you want to believe.
As I said that’s in the past and doesn’t matter now.


I mean all of that was literally in the article from people with sources… it definitely wasn’t something I made
up. And I never said it would keep it afloat, I said we will never know if it would have because USF killed it before it could even happen.


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Here are some other sources you should read.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/8560...e-big-east
A lot of those sources were from Brett McMurphy who had an axe to grind with USF and was then picked up and repeated by others.
Look at the link I posted it wasn’t USF who turned down ESPN’s offer. It was Pitt and Cuse who were already behind the backs working on leaving for ACC and it didn’t matter if UCF came or not.


Don’t see any mention one way or another about ucf, and the link to article about pitt killing the deal no longer works. So other than a bunch of opinions from a georgetown writer that openly hates pitt I guess we will never know the truth.


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LOL
https://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/18/sport...burgh.html
Here is another saying exactly the same thing. Pitt AD led the charge in turning down ESPN offer while 2orking behind the backs with Cuse to leave for ACC.


Can’t read it, pay wall.

Edit: just used a vpn and it lacks any details unsurprisingly.

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(09-20-2021 05:40 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  
(09-20-2021 05:40 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  
(09-20-2021 05:37 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  
(09-20-2021 05:31 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  
(09-20-2021 05:27 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  I mean all of that was literally in the article from people with sources… it definitely wasn’t something I made
up. And I never said it would keep it afloat, I said we will never know if it would have because USF killed it before it could even happen.


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Here are some other sources you should read.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/8560...e-big-east
A lot of those sources were from Brett McMurphy who had an axe to grind with USF and was then picked up and repeated by others.
Look at the link I posted it wasn’t USF who turned down ESPN’s offer. It was Pitt and Cuse who were already behind the backs working on leaving for ACC and it didn’t matter if UCF came or not.


Don’t see any mention one way or another about ucf, and the link to article about pitt killing the deal no longer works. So other than a bunch of opinions from a georgetown writer that openly hates pitt I guess we will never know the truth.


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LOL
https://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/18/sport...burgh.html
Here is another saying exactly the same thing. Pitt AD led the charge in turning down ESPN offer while 2orking behind the backs with Cuse to leave for ACC.


Can’t read it, pay wall.

Edit: just used a vpn and the article makes no mention of anything you claim.


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LOL. Oh really it doesn’t? Read the part about what happens to the Big East. I won’t copy paste on here. But is very clear
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(09-20-2021 05:46 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  
(09-20-2021 05:40 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  
(09-20-2021 05:40 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  
(09-20-2021 05:37 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  
(09-20-2021 05:31 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  Here are some other sources you should read.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/8560...e-big-east
A lot of those sources were from Brett McMurphy who had an axe to grind with USF and was then picked up and repeated by others.
Look at the link I posted it wasn’t USF who turned down ESPN’s offer. It was Pitt and Cuse who were already behind the backs working on leaving for ACC and it didn’t matter if UCF came or not.


Don’t see any mention one way or another about ucf, and the link to article about pitt killing the deal no longer works. So other than a bunch of opinions from a georgetown writer that openly hates pitt I guess we will never know the truth.


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LOL
https://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/18/sport...burgh.html
Here is another saying exactly the same thing. Pitt AD led the charge in turning down ESPN offer while 2orking behind the backs with Cuse to leave for ACC.


Can’t read it, pay wall.

Edit: just used a vpn and the article makes no mention of anything you claim.


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LOL. Oh really it doesn’t? Read the part about what happens to the Big East. I won’t copy paste on here. But is very clear


Ya it lacks details and leaves it a throway line. No mention either way about UCF or wether usf was involved.


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(09-20-2021 05:48 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  
(09-20-2021 05:46 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  
(09-20-2021 05:40 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  
(09-20-2021 05:40 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  
(09-20-2021 05:37 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  Don’t see any mention one way or another about ucf, and the link to article about pitt killing the deal no longer works. So other than a bunch of opinions from a georgetown writer that openly hates pitt I guess we will never know the truth.


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LOL
https://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/18/sport...burgh.html
Here is another saying exactly the same thing. Pitt AD led the charge in turning down ESPN offer while 2orking behind the backs with Cuse to leave for ACC.


Can’t read it, pay wall.

Edit: just used a vpn and the article makes no mention of anything you claim.


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LOL. Oh really it doesn’t? Read the part about what happens to the Big East. I won’t copy paste on here. But is very clear


Ya it lacks details and leaves it a throway line. No mention either way about UCF or wether usf was involved.


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I see so you choose to ignore the part about the Pitt AD pushing to decline the ESPN offer while working with ACC, but you believe the part about USF being the one that blocked the tv deal by blocking UCF.
It is very clear from that article that it was Pitt who blocked that ESPN TV deal, it had nothing to do with USF or UCF that’s why that’s not even mentioned
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(09-20-2021 05:51 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  
(09-20-2021 05:48 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  
(09-20-2021 05:46 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  
(09-20-2021 05:40 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  
(09-20-2021 05:40 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  LOL
https://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/18/sport...burgh.html
Here is another saying exactly the same thing. Pitt AD led the charge in turning down ESPN offer while 2orking behind the backs with Cuse to leave for ACC.


Can’t read it, pay wall.

Edit: just used a vpn and the article makes no mention of anything you claim.


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LOL. Oh really it doesn’t? Read the part about what happens to the Big East. I won’t copy paste on here. But is very clear


Ya it lacks details and leaves it a throway line. No mention either way about UCF or wether usf was involved.


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I see so you choose to ignore the part about the Pitt AD pushing to decline the ESPN offer while working with ACC, but you believe the part about USF being the one that blocked the tv deal by blocking UCF.
It is very clear from that article that it was Pitt who blocked that ESPN TV deal, it had nothing to do with USF or UCF that’s why that’s not even mentioned


I mean sure they could have lead the charge but they could have also been motivated by some of the demands of USF. You’re bleacher report article even mentioned that Pitt was open to other options besides leaving. What if one of those was one USF wasn’t comfortable with and so pitt said screw it and left.

Like I said we will never know the truth.


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RE: The Time is Now for AAC Schools To Build On-Campus Stadiums
(09-20-2021 05:54 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  
(09-20-2021 05:51 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  
(09-20-2021 05:48 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  
(09-20-2021 05:46 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  
(09-20-2021 05:40 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  Can’t read it, pay wall.

Edit: just used a vpn and the article makes no mention of anything you claim.


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LOL. Oh really it doesn’t? Read the part about what happens to the Big East. I won’t copy paste on here. But is very clear


Ya it lacks details and leaves it a throway line. No mention either way about UCF or wether usf was involved.


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I see so you choose to ignore the part about the Pitt AD pushing to decline the ESPN offer while working with ACC, but you believe the part about USF being the one that blocked the tv deal by blocking UCF.
It is very clear from that article that it was Pitt who blocked that ESPN TV deal, it had nothing to do with USF or UCF that’s why that’s not even mentioned


I mean sure they could have lead the charge but they could have also been motivated by some of the demands of USF. You’re bleacher report article even mentioned that Pitt was open to other options besides leaving. What if one of those was one USF wasn’t comfortable with and so pitt said screw it and left.

Like I said we will never know the truth.


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LOL. Whatever dude I’m done
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