(08-12-2021 10:28 AM)banker Wrote:  

(08-12-2021 09:18 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(08-12-2021 08:56 AM)banker Wrote:  

(08-12-2021 08:45 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(08-12-2021 08:41 AM)banker Wrote:  I just wonder if the ruling class elite has a treatment they just haven’t let us in on yet. If you look at the size of the Washington power broker group - Congress, the WH, the Supreme Court, cabinet members, agency leadership - and look at the demographics (a lot of old people), it’s near impossible that some of them haven’t died from COVID. Maybe I’m forgetting someone, but I can’t think of a single death from that group.

Some of your political leaders HAVE died from Covid. The rest are, gasp, vaccinated!

What political leaders on the national level have died from COVID? Also, there was no vaccine for several months, how many died during that time frame?

I’ll hang up and listen to your answer.

https://ballotpedia.org/Government_offic..._officials

Found this list. I remember hearing about half a dozen or so. All the deaths seem to be pre-vaccine. 3 federal of 76 diagnosed died, more state but that # of state officials is obviously higher. You can also see the rate drops dramatically with the vaccines being introduced.

https://www.texastribune.org/2021/02/08/...ight-dies/
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congres...s-n1252520
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/20/obitu...virus.html



From a quick refresh search it seems most federal and state employees started getting the vaccine around mid December. Given the time for it to kick in you see the trend with drops in late January.

https://twitter.com/MittRomney/status/13...8866174978 Mitt getting his for example.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/22/politics/...index.html Seems like most politicians are either admitting to being vaccinated or refusing to identify their status (well within their right to, but you have to wonder if the denial is political in nature so as not to upset their constituents who are anti-vax).

So your 3 deaths are a guy who had been battling cancer for years, a guy who was elected but not yet in office and an 83 year old appeals judge.

That’s all you have out of the thousands and thousands of high level government employees in the group I defined (and two of yours were outside the defined group, leaving you with only a guy who was actively fighting cancer for the previous two years)?

I do not have an easily digestible (like above) link to a a database that tracks your "thousands and thousands" (you need to be more specific as to who you want me to track down if your net is that wide... I kept it cute to mostly elected reps/officials).

You asked for examples. I gave you examples. Up to you to cherry pick whom you deem is important enough to include/ignore for the narrative you want to paint. I guess thats how the Spin Room operates.

(08-12-2021 08:45 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(08-12-2021 08:41 AM)banker Wrote:  I just wonder if the ruling class elite has a treatment they just haven’t let us in on yet. If you look at the size of the Washington power broker group - Congress, the WH, the Supreme Court, cabinet members, agency leadership - and look at the demographics (a lot of old people), it’s near impossible that some of them haven’t died from COVID. Maybe I’m forgetting someone, but I can’t think of a single death from that group.

Some of your political leaders HAVE died from Covid. The rest are, gasp, vaccinated!

who?

(08-12-2021 10:28 AM)banker Wrote:  

(08-12-2021 09:18 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(08-12-2021 08:56 AM)banker Wrote:  

(08-12-2021 08:45 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(08-12-2021 08:41 AM)banker Wrote:  I just wonder if the ruling class elite has a treatment they just haven’t let us in on yet. If you look at the size of the Washington power broker group - Congress, the WH, the Supreme Court, cabinet members, agency leadership - and look at the demographics (a lot of old people), it’s near impossible that some of them haven’t died from COVID. Maybe I’m forgetting someone, but I can’t think of a single death from that group.

Some of your political leaders HAVE died from Covid. The rest are, gasp, vaccinated!

What political leaders on the national level have died from COVID? Also, there was no vaccine for several months, how many died during that time frame?

I’ll hang up and listen to your answer.

https://ballotpedia.org/Government_offic..._officials

Found this list. I remember hearing about half a dozen or so. All the deaths seem to be pre-vaccine. 3 federal of 76 diagnosed died, more state but that # of state officials is obviously higher. You can also see the rate drops dramatically with the vaccines being introduced.

https://www.texastribune.org/2021/02/08/...ight-dies/
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congres...s-n1252520
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/20/obitu...virus.html



From a quick refresh search it seems most federal and state employees started getting the vaccine around mid December. Given the time for it to kick in you see the trend with drops in late January.

https://twitter.com/MittRomney/status/13...8866174978 Mitt getting his for example.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/22/politics/...index.html Seems like most politicians are either admitting to being vaccinated or refusing to identify their status (well within their right to, but you have to wonder if the denial is political in nature so as not to upset their constituents who are anti-vax).

So your 3 deaths are a guy who had been battling cancer for years, a guy who was elected but not yet in office and an 83 year old appeals judge.

That’s all you have out of the thousands and thousands of high level government employees in the group I defined (and two of yours were outside the defined group, leaving you with only a guy who was actively fighting cancer for the previous two years)?

They just aren't very smart.

(08-12-2021 10:46 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(08-12-2021 10:28 AM)banker Wrote:  

(08-12-2021 09:18 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(08-12-2021 08:56 AM)banker Wrote:  

(08-12-2021 08:45 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  Some of your political leaders HAVE died from Covid. The rest are, gasp, vaccinated!

What political leaders on the national level have died from COVID? Also, there was no vaccine for several months, how many died during that time frame?

I’ll hang up and listen to your answer.

https://ballotpedia.org/Government_offic..._officials

Found this list. I remember hearing about half a dozen or so. All the deaths seem to be pre-vaccine. 3 federal of 76 diagnosed died, more state but that # of state officials is obviously higher. You can also see the rate drops dramatically with the vaccines being introduced.

https://www.texastribune.org/2021/02/08/...ight-dies/
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congres...s-n1252520
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/20/obitu...virus.html



From a quick refresh search it seems most federal and state employees started getting the vaccine around mid December. Given the time for it to kick in you see the trend with drops in late January.

https://twitter.com/MittRomney/status/13...8866174978 Mitt getting his for example.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/22/politics/...index.html Seems like most politicians are either admitting to being vaccinated or refusing to identify their status (well within their right to, but you have to wonder if the denial is political in nature so as not to upset their constituents who are anti-vax).

So your 3 deaths are a guy who had been battling cancer for years, a guy who was elected but not yet in office and an 83 year old appeals judge.

That’s all you have out of the thousands and thousands of high level government employees in the group I defined (and two of yours were outside the defined group, leaving you with only a guy who was actively fighting cancer for the previous two years)?

I do not have an easily digestible (like above) link to a a database that tracks your "thousands and thousands" (you need to be more specific as to who you want me to track down if your net is that wide... I kept it cute to mostly elected reps/officials).

You asked for examples. I gave you examples. Up to you to cherry pick whom you deem is important enough to include/ignore for the narrative you want to paint. I guess thats how the Spin Room operates.

No, you can't weasel your way out of failing to prove the point you were trying to make. Just admit you whiffed and move on.

(08-12-2021 11:09 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(08-12-2021 10:46 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(08-12-2021 10:28 AM)banker Wrote:  

(08-12-2021 09:18 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(08-12-2021 08:56 AM)banker Wrote:  What political leaders on the national level have died from COVID? Also, there was no vaccine for several months, how many died during that time frame?

I’ll hang up and listen to your answer.

https://ballotpedia.org/Government_offic..._officials

Found this list. I remember hearing about half a dozen or so. All the deaths seem to be pre-vaccine. 3 federal of 76 diagnosed died, more state but that # of state officials is obviously higher. You can also see the rate drops dramatically with the vaccines being introduced.

https://www.texastribune.org/2021/02/08/...ight-dies/
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congres...s-n1252520
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/20/obitu...virus.html



From a quick refresh search it seems most federal and state employees started getting the vaccine around mid December. Given the time for it to kick in you see the trend with drops in late January.

https://twitter.com/MittRomney/status/13...8866174978 Mitt getting his for example.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/22/politics/...index.html Seems like most politicians are either admitting to being vaccinated or refusing to identify their status (well within their right to, but you have to wonder if the denial is political in nature so as not to upset their constituents who are anti-vax).

So your 3 deaths are a guy who had been battling cancer for years, a guy who was elected but not yet in office and an 83 year old appeals judge.

That’s all you have out of the thousands and thousands of high level government employees in the group I defined (and two of yours were outside the defined group, leaving you with only a guy who was actively fighting cancer for the previous two years)?

I do not have an easily digestible (like above) link to a a database that tracks your "thousands and thousands" (you need to be more specific as to who you want me to track down if your net is that wide... I kept it cute to mostly elected reps/officials).

You asked for examples. I gave you examples. Up to you to cherry pick whom you deem is important enough to include/ignore for the narrative you want to paint. I guess thats how the Spin Room operates.

No, you can't weasel your way out of failing to prove the point you were trying to make. Just admit you whiffed and move on.

Politicians have died on a national level as well as state, and their rates of getting Covid went down when the vaccines began. If you want to lalalalalala ignore those facts that's on you. When you boys want to actually read the articles and discuss them I'll chime back in.

The rich have had different rules since 1776

(08-12-2021 11:17 AM)fsquid Wrote:  The rich have had different rules since 1776

The rich have had different rules since the beginning of time