Buried in the infrastructure bill is a requirement for all automakers to have technology to monitor and prevent drunk driving

Quote:The $1 trillion infrastructure bill passed by the U.S. Senate includes a provision that would mandate passive technology in all new cars to prevent drunk or impaired drivers from operating the vehicle.

This technology, according to the bill, would be required to “passively monitor the performance of a driver [to] to accurately identify whether that driver may be impaired” and “prevent or limit motor vehicle operation if an impairment is detected.”

The bill would require the U.S. Transportation Department to establish a safety standard for the new technology within three years and then gives automakers another two years to comply.

According to the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS) alcohol-detection systems that prevent impaired driving could save upward of 9,000 lives annually, and reduce the estimated $44 billion in economic costs associated with drunk driving deaths in the United States. IIHS says that U.S. police departments arrest about 1 million people a year for alcohol-impaired driving.

The inclusion of this language in the infrastructure bill has the support of Mothers Against Drunk Driving (MADD) which has been working to pass a stand-alone bill, the Reduce Impaired Driving for Everyone (RIDE) Act, with similar requirements for the past several years. MADD supports several technology possibilities including driver monitoring systems, touch-based systems that can read a drivers’ blood alcohol concentration (BAC) through their fingertips, and air-sampling systems that can test and isolate just the air exhaled by the driver.

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a mask should solve that, TTToo…

@opensWindowHangsHead

#420compliant?!

Interesting... I'm guessing they're still working out the details but I'm curious how it will work. Would it just shut down your car if some software detects that you're driving erratically?

I've driven down some old country roads where I'm constantly swerving to avoid massive potholes. Would it be able to detect that I'm doing this on purpose or would it think I'm drunk at the wheel?

(08-12-2021 09:03 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  a mask should solve that, TTToo…

@opensWindowHangsHead

#420compliant?!

They coming for you too stinky

Quote:It’s too early to tell if this technology would be limited only to alcohol impaired driving or if it might be extended to drug-impaired driving as well, an issue that has received increased attention as more states move to legalize the use of marijuana.

“Recent state actions to legalize the use of marijuana for medical and recreational use have further exacerbated concern over potential risks of driving impaired by marijuana,” the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) said in 2015. The administration found in a study that an estimated 16% of all accidents were cause by drug-impaired drivers.

The infrastructure bill begins to address this as well. A little over 100 pages after the requirement for impaired driver technology in new cars, a section entitled “Drug-Impaired Driving Data Collection” sets a deadline for certain federal agencies to identify ways to improve reporting of toxicology testing in cases of motor vehicle crashes.

The very next section calls for a report, within two years, that identifies barriers to the establishment of a national clearinghouse for facilitating research specifically on marijuana-impaired driving.

(08-12-2021 09:09 AM)bobdizole Wrote:  

(08-12-2021 09:03 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  a mask should solve that, TTToo…

@opensWindowHangsHead

#420compliant?!

They coming for you too stinky

Quote:It’s too early to tell if this technology would be limited only to alcohol impaired driving or if it might be extended to drug-impaired driving as well, an issue that has received increased attention as more states move to legalize the use of marijuana.

“Recent state actions to legalize the use of marijuana for medical and recreational use have further exacerbated concern over potential risks of driving impaired by marijuana,” the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) said in 2015. The administration found in a study that an estimated 16% of all accidents were cause by drug-impaired drivers.

The infrastructure bill begins to address this as well. A little over 100 pages after the requirement for impaired driver technology in new cars, a section entitled “Drug-Impaired Driving Data Collection” sets a deadline for certain federal agencies to identify ways to improve reporting of toxicology testing in cases of motor vehicle crashes.

The very next section calls for a report, within two years, that identifies barriers to the establishment of a national clearinghouse for facilitating research specifically on marijuana-impaired driving.

lmao…never travel with muh 420 unless in me toolbox on a road trip

just like makers or glenlivet, it’s designed for 420 or > in our finite time machine…

(08-12-2021 09:08 AM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  Interesting... I'm guessing they're still working out the details but I'm curious how it will work. Would it just shut down your car if some software detects that you're driving erratically?

I've driven down some old country roads where I'm constantly swerving to avoid massive potholes. Would it be able to detect that I'm doing this on purpose or would it think I'm drunk at the wheel?

best guess is it taps into a database and sicks the ‘hounds’ on your arse..

(08-12-2021 09:08 AM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  Interesting... I'm guessing they're still working out the details but I'm curious how it will work. Would it just shut down your car if some software detects that you're driving erratically?

I was under the impression the auto-industries already had the technology for some of this. Certain manufacturers made equipment so that you couldn't start the car if you were over a certain BAL or THC level.

And the ones for the "lane drift" are supposed to alarm and then kick in if your angle of drift doesn't change over "x number of seconds".

(08-12-2021 09:34 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(08-12-2021 09:08 AM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  Interesting... I'm guessing they're still working out the details but I'm curious how it will work. Would it just shut down your car if some software detects that you're driving erratically?

I was under the impression the auto-industries already had the technology for some of this. Certain manufacturers made equipment so that you couldn't start the car if you were over a certain BAL or THC level.

And the ones for the "lane drift" are supposed to alarm and then kick in if your angle of drift doesn't change over "x number of seconds".

Interlocs have been around awhile for people that can't stop getting DUIs. A coworker had to get one installed and boy was it not cheap. Also they are really gross. I can't imagine a system like that would be deployed to every new vehicle

(08-12-2021 09:34 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(08-12-2021 09:08 AM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  Interesting... I'm guessing they're still working out the details but I'm curious how it will work. Would it just shut down your car if some software detects that you're driving erratically?

I was under the impression the auto-industries already had the technology for some of this. Certain manufacturers made equipment so that you couldn't start the car if you were over a certain BAL or THC level.

And the ones for the "lane drift" are supposed to alarm and then kick in if your angle of drift doesn't change over "x number of seconds".

it’s all documented in The Minority Report….

(08-12-2021 09:37 AM)bobdizole Wrote:  

(08-12-2021 09:34 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(08-12-2021 09:08 AM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  Interesting... I'm guessing they're still working out the details but I'm curious how it will work. Would it just shut down your car if some software detects that you're driving erratically?

I was under the impression the auto-industries already had the technology for some of this. Certain manufacturers made equipment so that you couldn't start the car if you were over a certain BAL or THC level.

And the ones for the "lane drift" are supposed to alarm and then kick in if your angle of drift doesn't change over "x number of seconds".

Interlocs have been around awhile for people that can't stop getting DUIs. A coworker had to get one installed and boy was it not cheap. Also they are really gross. I can't imagine a system like that would be deployed to every new vehicle

Yeah I interpreted this as being something entirely different than an ignition interlock. They mentioned it would be passive, so something actively monitoring your driving in the background. I know certain insurance companies already have those plug-in devises that can monitor how quickly you accelerate, how hard you break, etc...

I'm just curious whether or not these future vehicles will alert the authorities if you're driving erratically or will it actively shut your car down if it assumes your impaired.

My dad's car has a feature that suggests you pull over and grab a coffee if it notices that you're crossing into the shoulder too often.

They should call it a Biden* device, to prevent people like Joe's brother from being impaired and having his car kill a father.

(08-12-2021 09:08 AM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  Interesting... I'm guessing they're still working out the details but I'm curious how it will work. Would it just shut down your car if some software detects that you're driving erratically?

I've driven down some old country roads where I'm constantly swerving to avoid massive potholes. Would it be able to detect that I'm doing this on purpose or would it think I'm drunk at the wheel?

Doesn't matter how it works. It's pure big brother and another measure of control govt is attempting to exercise over private citizens.

Another huge leap towards America becoming a communist hell-hole.

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(08-12-2021 09:43 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(08-12-2021 09:34 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(08-12-2021 09:08 AM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  Interesting... I'm guessing they're still working out the details but I'm curious how it will work. Would it just shut down your car if some software detects that you're driving erratically?

I was under the impression the auto-industries already had the technology for some of this. Certain manufacturers made equipment so that you couldn't start the car if you were over a certain BAL or THC level.

And the ones for the "lane drift" are supposed to alarm and then kick in if your angle of drift doesn't change over "x number of seconds".

it’s all documented in The Minority Report….

(08-12-2021 10:49 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(08-12-2021 09:08 AM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  Interesting... I'm guessing they're still working out the details but I'm curious how it will work. Would it just shut down your car if some software detects that you're driving erratically?

I've driven down some old country roads where I'm constantly swerving to avoid massive potholes. Would it be able to detect that I'm doing this on purpose or would it think I'm drunk at the wheel?

Doesn't matter how it works. It's pure big brother and another measure of control govt is attempting to exercise over private citizens.

Another huge leap towards America becoming a communist hell-hole.

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absolutely

So, what I'm seeing is that this will drive up the cost of cars quite quickly and can give false readings that can be quite problematic.

But yay for even more government intrusion!!!

I'd be for a device in your cell phone that keeps people from texting while driving. To me, that's a lot more of an issue than drunk driving.

(08-12-2021 12:56 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  I'd be for a device in your cell phone that keeps people from texting while driving. To me, that's a lot more of an issue than drunk driving.

Facts. I ran into two of them yesterday, one was a cop blocking my neighborhood too busy staring at a screen in his car. Do I honk and get him pissed or do I sit here indefinitely and wait for him to move? He could've easily pulled across the street to a park but nah, let's block an active road. Then, on my way home I witnessed someone sitting at a green light not moving. A truck carrying a tractor didn't see him due to other cars pulling away at the last minute. Good thing the truck had a turn lane and an oncoming traffic turn lane to veer off into to avoid causing a nasty collision.

(08-12-2021 12:56 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  I'd be for a device in your cell phone that keeps people from texting while driving. To me, that's a lot more of an issue than drunk driving.

I agree, but I wouldn't know how to implement it. How would your phone be able to tell if you were the driver or the passenger?

A former school board member in my town just got some jailtime for a texting while driving accident. She rear ended a car at a stoplight waiting to make a left, knocked their car into oncoming traffic. The driver and the passenger of the car she hit were both hospitalized, with one still in a wheelchair after nearly two years.

The woman ended up getting 10 days in jail. Apparently she thought the sentencing was too strict, so she appealed, and the judge ended up giving her 3 months instead!

(08-12-2021 01:58 PM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  

(08-12-2021 12:56 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  I'd be for a device in your cell phone that keeps people from texting while driving. To me, that's a lot more of an issue than drunk driving.

I agree, but I wouldn't know how to implement it. How would your phone be able to tell if you were the driver or the passenger?

A former school board member in my town just got some jailtime for a texting while driving accident. She rear ended a car at a stoplight waiting to make a left, knocked their car into oncoming traffic. The driver and the passenger of the car she hit were both hospitalized, with one still in a wheelchair after nearly two years.

The woman ended up getting 10 days in jail. Apparently she thought the sentencing was too strict, so she appealed, and the judge ended up giving her 3 months instead!

You don't. It's like guns, don't punish the masses for the crimes of a few. You give mass punishment to the few that commit the crimes.

(08-12-2021 12:56 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  I'd be for a device in your cell phone that keeps people from texting while driving. To me, that's a lot more of an issue than drunk driving.

how do you fix the retro issue…does one confiscate all non-compliant vehicles, or mandate x + y = zzzzzz

JUST JFC

g’damn, I’ve inhereted dipshite-land…