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will be allowed at the Olympics in Japan. The excitement of the crowd is one of the things that makes sports fun to watch. It certainly won't be the same. I am starting to worry about the situation for spectator sports in low vaccine states like Arkansas and Missouri. We went to Lake of the Ozarks in Missouri last month. I thought my wife was somewhat ridiculous about refusing to eat inside. Not so much now. One of the places we stopped at, Springfield, now has the worst outbreak of Covid in the country with it's hospitals overwhelmed.
07-08-2021 11:07 AM
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It almost falls into the "why bother?" category if there are not going to be any fans. Almost. Not quite, because someone will go home with medals.
07-08-2021 02:34 PM
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(07-08-2021 02:34 PM)MICHAELSPAPPY Wrote:  It almost falls into the "why bother?" category if there are not going to be any fans. Almost. Not quite, because someone will go home with medals.

I had the same thought. I guess you have athletes who have been training for this for years. Also, while Japan will take a blood bath, financially, they will at least get TV money this way.
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Sister-in-law is a manager at a Baxter Regional. They are short nurses and have a bunch of Covid cases. When my father was at Unity in Searcy one night his wing had 2 RNs and one 1LPN. Nurse said they ideally would have had 5 RNs and normal short-handed night would have been 4 RNs.

They weren’t seeing a lot of Covid then but we’re getting some cases after some time of none or just a few. He was only on palliative care so it wasn’t a critical issue for him. Nurse said ICU was only fully staffed part of the hospital. ER was tasking residents to do some nursing care, so there’s a plus to the two new med schools.
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(07-10-2021 10:30 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  Sister-in-law is a manager at a Baxter Regional. They are short nurses and have a bunch of Covid cases. When my father was at Unity in Searcy one night his wing had 2 RNs and one 1LPN. Nurse said they ideally would have had 5 RNs and normal short-handed night would have been 4 RNs.

They weren’t seeing a lot of Covid then but we’re getting some cases after some time of none or just a few. He was only on palliative care so it wasn’t a critical issue for him. Nurse said ICU was only fully staffed part of the hospital. ER was tasking residents to do some nursing care, so there’s a plus to the two new med schools.

Hearing more and more about vaccinated folks getting sick, with some even being hospitalized. Still not clear if this is simply expected with the vaccine not being "perfect" (90% to 95% effective), the vaccine not being as effective against the Delta variant, or possibly even the vaccine losing some of it's potency after 6 months or so. I guess option #1 would be the best scenario as "break through" cases occur with any vaccine. The other 2 options are much more worrisome.
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I think people are taking the number of deaths of the vaccinated the wrong way because the vast majority of new cases and deaths are the unvaccinated. So this proves that vaccines are way more effective than not getting the vaccine. Yes, vaccines are never perfect but they help your chances a lot more than being unvaccinated. Even the flu shot isn't 100%. Now if everyone got vaccinated, covid could be handled to a point in which we can go back to a good level of normalcy (and it also helps the hospitals out a lot).

I'm starting to get frustrated at people who seem to like it when there some news of a vaccine losing its effectiveness or if there's a rare (and minor) side effect. Like how is that a good thing? Do you really want to go back where we were in early 2020? Do you want to be in lockdown again? Of course not! So get your shot before another variant pops up!

All I know is that I'm prepared to get a booster or a new Delta vaccination whenever it's ready (it's already in development) and recommended by the people who have dedicated 10 years of their life to college education and many more years of hospital experience to protect the health of the people. I'm not going to listen to some person on Facebook whos source is "just trust me, bro."
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(07-15-2021 10:12 AM)mjs Wrote:  
(07-10-2021 10:30 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  Sister-in-law is a manager at a Baxter Regional. They are short nurses and have a bunch of Covid cases. When my father was at Unity in Searcy one night his wing had 2 RNs and one 1LPN. Nurse said they ideally would have had 5 RNs and normal short-handed night would have been 4 RNs.

They weren’t seeing a lot of Covid then but we’re getting some cases after some time of none or just a few. He was only on palliative care so it wasn’t a critical issue for him. Nurse said ICU was only fully staffed part of the hospital. ER was tasking residents to do some nursing care, so there’s a plus to the two new med schools.

Hearing more and more about vaccinated folks getting sick, with some even being hospitalized. Still not clear if this is simply expected with the vaccine not being "perfect" (90% to 95% effective), the vaccine not being as effective against the Delta variant, or possibly even the vaccine losing some of it's potency after 6 months or so. I guess option #1 would be the best scenario as "break through" cases occur with any vaccine. The other 2 options are much more worrisome.

In a sense, this is proof that a vaccine works. 98 percent of the current hospitalized patients in the state were unvaccinated. I think this is more reflective of the current level of spread in the state that we are seeing breakthrough cases. The more someone is exposed, the more likely they will be infected. However, as long as the cases continue to remain mild, it means little

Of course, the state legislature has made any future covid restrictions impossible, so what we are fighting now, we will continue to fight until vaccinations increase.
07-18-2021 08:38 PM
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