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New Study: Hydroxychloroquine touted by Trump increased COVID survival rates by 200%
My God! people died just so that they could hurt Trump and they outright suppressed the Truth from getting out. It’s no longer labeled misinformation now that Trump is out of office…unbelievable

Quote:A malaria drug which Donald Trump was condemned for hailing as a possible COVID-19 treatment can increase survival rates by up to 200 per cent, scientists say.

Scientists found that, when ventilated patients with a severe version of COVID were given high doses of hydroxychloroquine with zinc, their survival rates could increase dramatically.

The former president had previously touted hydroxy as a potential miracle treatment, with scientists lining up to insist he was wrong to do so.

Yet Trump's allies on Wednesday were highlighting the study, conducted by Saint Barnabas Medical Center in New Jersey on 255 patients.

It was published on May 31 on the medical site medRxiv

Trump's spokesman, Jason Miller, tweeted: 'Oh.'

He quoted: 'Study shows hydroxychloroquine and zinc treatments increased coronavirus survival rate by almost three times'

His son, Donald Trump Jr, said: 'In the last week alone, we've learned that the media, so-called fact checkers and their Big Tech enforcers lied to us about the lab-leak theory, Hydroxychloroquine and the clearing of Lafayette Square.

'All to hurt Donald Trump.

'What else are they lying about?'

Last summer, Twitter restricted the account of Trump Jr after he posted a video of doctors touting the effectiveness of the drug. The social media platform accused him of 'spreading misleading and potentially harmful misinformation' related to the coronavirus.

In March of this year, the World Health Organization warned against using the drug to prevent the coronavirus, citing data suggesting it was ineffective.

Yet the authors of the new report state: 'We found that when the cumulative doses of two drugs, HCQ and AZM, were above a certain level, patients had a survival rate 2.9 times the other patients.

'By using causal analysis and considering of weight-adjusted cumulative dose, we prove the combined therapy, >3 g HCQ and > 1g AZM greatly increases survival in Covid patients on IMV and that HCQ cumulative dose > 80 mg/kg works substantially better.'

Hydroxychloroquine is still an unproven drug for COVID treatment.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...ssion=true
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WIth this and the vaccine, no reason for any more restrictions.
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(06-10-2021 08:07 AM)fsquid Wrote:  WIth this and the vaccine, no reason for any more restrictions.

FSquid, would you please issue the official proclamation?
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I’m certain the board discussed this to ad nauseam b4 the pre masking -stolen election…

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RE: New Study: Hydroxychloroquine touted by Trump increased COVID survival rates by 200%
(06-10-2021 08:07 AM)fsquid Wrote:  WIth this and the vaccine, no reason for any more restrictions.

Agreed, but the ugly truth is there was never a reason for restrictions past the initial spread from March to May last year. HCQ was readily available and cheap.

"The Big Lie" is close to being fully exposed. The only remaining questions is whether or not the media will do their job and exposes ANYBODY with a hand in using covid to effectively shut down the world.

I firmly believe this was intentional. It was meant to drag the US down, to end our status as the superpower, as a means to ease a more centralized global government - "The Great Reset". DJT beating HRC threw a huge monkey wrench in the global elitist plans and had been re-elected it would have set their agenda an goals back decades.
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Quote:*Important Notice
medRxiv publishes preliminary scientific reports that are not peer-reviewed and, therefore, should not be regarded as conclusive, guide clinical practice/health-related behavior, or treated as established information.
https://www.news-medical.net/news/202106...ients.aspx
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New Study: Hydroxychloroquine touted by Trump increased COVID survival rates by 200%
Yup.

I even did the math on this over a year ago.

No money in it. I’ve forgotten the recommended protocols by now, but I believe the entire treatment regimen came to around $4.40 per patient. No Bill Gates kinda money in there.

The Drumpf never claimed it as a “cure” any more than he said “inject bleach”. All made up bulllschit by the idiot lapdog media and their knuckle dragging “audience”. No one can cite one example of either, and people died because of the fake news media complex.

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New Study: Hydroxychloroquine touted by Trump increased COVID survival rates by 200%
(06-10-2021 08:17 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
Quote:*Important Notice
medRxiv publishes preliminary scientific reports that are not peer-reviewed and, therefore, should not be regarded as conclusive, guide clinical practice/health-related behavior, or treated as established information.
https://www.news-medical.net/news/202106...ients.aspx


Go read the peer reviewed studies that are out there and get back to us.

They DO exist and have for over a year now.
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RE: New Study: Hydroxychloroquine touted by Trump increased COVID survival rates by 200%
(06-10-2021 08:17 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
Quote:*Important Notice
medRxiv publishes preliminary scientific reports that are not peer-reviewed and, therefore, should not be regarded as conclusive, guide clinical practice/health-related behavior, or treated as established information.
https://www.news-medical.net/news/202106...ients.aspx

There were study’s conducted even last year in the midst of Covid like in France that had similar results. Go somewhere else with that
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RE: New Study: Hydroxychloroquine touted by Trump increased COVID survival rates by 200%
(06-10-2021 08:21 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  
(06-10-2021 08:17 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
Quote:*Important Notice
medRxiv publishes preliminary scientific reports that are not peer-reviewed and, therefore, should not be regarded as conclusive, guide clinical practice/health-related behavior, or treated as established information.
https://www.news-medical.net/news/202106...ients.aspx


Go read the peer reviewed studies that are out there and get back to us.

They DO exist and have for over a year now.

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(06-10-2021 08:10 AM)Claw Wrote:  
(06-10-2021 08:07 AM)fsquid Wrote:  WIth this and the vaccine, no reason for any more restrictions.

FSquid, would you please issue the official proclamation?

Man I can't even get the woman of the house or the dog to listen
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RE: New Study: Hydroxychloroquine touted by Trump increased COVID survival rates by 200%
Sample size was tiny.
Observational study with no control.

255 patients, 201 died.

“37 patients received > 3g HCQ and > 1g AZM. 18 patients (48.6%) of these 37 patients survived. Comparatively, 36 patients (16.5%) of 218 patients who received either <= 3g HCQ or <= 1g AZM survived. The absolute difference (32.1%) in survival was significant [C.I = 15.9% −48.2%; p <0.0001]. The relative difference in survival = 194.5%. Differences of these magnitudes have not been reported in other clinical studies.”

So half the patients who got the dose they wanted still died, and they are declaring that that tiny batch of 18 survivors is statistically significant difference to base a conclusion on. You can’t make conclusions off of sample sizes this small.
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(06-10-2021 08:50 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  Sample size was tiny.
Observational study with no control.

255 patients, 201 died.

“37 patients received > 3g HCQ and > 1g AZM. 18 patients (48.6%) of these 37 patients survived. Comparatively, 36 patients (16.5%) of 218 patients who received either <= 3g HCQ or <= 1g AZM survived. The absolute difference (32.1%) in survival was significant [C.I = 15.9% −48.2%; p <0.0001]. The relative difference in survival = 194.5%. Differences of these magnitudes have not been reported in other clinical studies.”

So half the patients who got the dose they wanted still died, and they are declaring that that tiny batch of 18 survivors is statistically significant difference to base a conclusion on. You can’t make conclusions off of sample sizes this small.

ummmmmmkay….how about smoothing the long term residual impact due to fast tracking muh placebo’d alchemist’ cocktail that is #muhVaccine…

JFC!

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(06-10-2021 08:21 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  
(06-10-2021 08:17 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
Quote:*Important Notice
medRxiv publishes preliminary scientific reports that are not peer-reviewed and, therefore, should not be regarded as conclusive, guide clinical practice/health-related behavior, or treated as established information.
https://www.news-medical.net/news/202106...ients.aspx


Go read the peer reviewed studies that are out there and get back to us.

They DO exist and have for over a year now.

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(06-10-2021 08:50 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  Sample size was tiny.
Observational study with no control.

255 patients, 201 died.

“37 patients received > 3g HCQ and > 1g AZM. 18 patients (48.6%) of these 37 patients survived. Comparatively, 36 patients (16.5%) of 218 patients who received either <= 3g HCQ or <= 1g AZM survived. The absolute difference (32.1%) in survival was significant [C.I = 15.9% −48.2%; p <0.0001]. The relative difference in survival = 194.5%. Differences of these magnitudes have not been reported in other clinical studies.”

So half the patients who got the dose they wanted still died, and they are declaring that that tiny batch of 18 survivors is statistically significant difference to base a conclusion on. You can’t make conclusions off of sample sizes this small.

Kind of like how we are always told by polls that the Dem will beat the Rep in any given election because 1,000 registered voters in a country of 330,000,000 people say so?
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(06-10-2021 08:17 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
Quote:*Important Notice
medRxiv publishes preliminary scientific reports that are not peer-reviewed and, therefore, should not be regarded as conclusive, guide clinical practice/health-related behavior, or treated as established information.
https://www.news-medical.net/news/202106...ients.aspx

We know you dolt. This is why I hadnt sent you this link yet. I told you it wasnt porn star reviewed yet.

Keep in mind, you posted the study from the porn star wannabe that was turned out NOT to be peer reviewed oin the Lancet, and you have yet to disavow it. So you dont care if its peer reviewed or not.
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(06-10-2021 08:50 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  Sample size was tiny.
Observational study with no control.

255 patients, 201 died.

“37 patients received > 3g HCQ and > 1g AZM. 18 patients (48.6%) of these 37 patients survived. Comparatively, 36 patients (16.5%) of 218 patients who received either <= 3g HCQ or <= 1g AZM survived. The absolute difference (32.1%) in survival was significant [C.I = 15.9% −48.2%; p <0.0001]. The relative difference in survival = 194.5%. Differences of these magnitudes have not been reported in other clinical studies.”

So half the patients who got the dose they wanted still died, and they are declaring that that tiny batch of 18 survivors is statistically significant difference to base a conclusion on. You can’t make conclusions off of sample sizes this small.

Did you perform this sample size analysis on the study published in the Lancet from the porn star wannabe? Yea, didnt think so.

You and Tom are the reason people are dead.
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(06-10-2021 08:32 AM)fsquid Wrote:  
(06-10-2021 08:10 AM)Claw Wrote:  
(06-10-2021 08:07 AM)fsquid Wrote:  WIth this and the vaccine, no reason for any more restrictions.

FSquid, would you please issue the official proclamation?

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FOR GOD'S SAKE MAN............

ALL Audits that are not performed by certified / accredited auditors are invalid

ALL Medical studies that are not PEER REVIEWED are invalid.

Never ever ever! GET WITH THE PROGRAM
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(06-10-2021 09:38 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  
(06-10-2021 08:32 AM)fsquid Wrote:  
(06-10-2021 08:10 AM)Claw Wrote:  
(06-10-2021 08:07 AM)fsquid Wrote:  WIth this and the vaccine, no reason for any more restrictions.

FSquid, would you please issue the official proclamation?

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