(04-13-2021 08:04 AM)TGTiger Wrote:  

(04-10-2021 02:05 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  

(04-10-2021 01:17 PM)TGTiger Wrote:  

(04-10-2021 01:04 PM)sherekhan Wrote:  

(04-10-2021 12:28 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  That is just it. Have a 7 foot center with his wingspan and athletic ability changes how the other team operates and runs their offense. That does not show up in just traditional stat lines but having him in the game changes how the other team operates. We did not have the #1 defense in the country by chance. He was a major part of the reason why.

I agree. Without him the defense will not be as effective and it stands to reason his offense would improve with more experience.

I hate to see him leave.

Completely agree. Too many middle age men and senior citizens on here living vicariously through 18-22 year olds. Cisse has been playing basketball for all of 6 years.

He has a lot to work on but also has a lot of upside.

I haven’t read the entire thread. Would you mind elaborating?

Over the top comments like some in this thread referring to a kid who should be graduating HS (and who has played the sport for 5-6 years) as “mr rock hands.” There are several examples.

I got a negative comment for that post even though I didn’t explicitly call anyone here out so I must have hit too close to home for someone :)

I haven’t read through the thread to single out comments, but my frustration is not with fan expectation, but “handler” expectation. Anyone who watched Moussa this season saw a kid with raw talent and very little basketball IQ. The kid played at Lausanne, for Christ sakes, so he feasted on slow 5’11” white dudes from Collierville, and is now battling it out against players more experienced & equally gifted. Moussa improved as the season progressed, but his people obviously believe he should be NBA ready. Geez, 8 months ago, he wasn’t AAC ready... and that’s the rub. As a coach, handlers expect “their kid’s” development to be placed above other players, team goals & the coach’s job security. In many instances, a kid like Malcolm, who was further along than Moussa, was asked to sit while Moussa played & developed. Nothing wrong with investing in Moussa’s development, as certainly was any the arrangement from the beginning, but a kid like Moussa needs stability so he can build upon what he has learned... not yet another restart somewhere else... and certainly not in the NBA, where they’ll send him to purgatory in 2 years. If his “people” truly have his best interest in mind, then they’ll tell him to park it for 2 more years and prepare because he is no where close to being ready to play against the best players in the world.

(04-13-2021 08:04 AM)TGTiger Wrote:  

(04-10-2021 02:05 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  

(04-10-2021 01:17 PM)TGTiger Wrote:  

(04-10-2021 01:04 PM)sherekhan Wrote:  

(04-10-2021 12:28 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  That is just it. Have a 7 foot center with his wingspan and athletic ability changes how the other team operates and runs their offense. That does not show up in just traditional stat lines but having him in the game changes how the other team operates. We did not have the #1 defense in the country by chance. He was a major part of the reason why.

I agree. Without him the defense will not be as effective and it stands to reason his offense would improve with more experience.

I hate to see him leave.

Completely agree. Too many middle age men and senior citizens on here living vicariously through 18-22 year olds. Cisse has been playing basketball for all of 6 years.

He has a lot to work on but also has a lot of upside.

I haven’t read the entire thread. Would you mind elaborating?

Over the top comments like some in this thread referring to a kid who should be graduating HS (and who has played the sport for 5-6 years) as “mr rock hands.” There are several examples.

I got a negative comment for that post even though I didn’t explicitly call anyone here out so I must have hit too close to home for someone :)

I got that part. I just don’t know the age of everyone here. From reading the posts, my guess is anywhere from 12 to 100.

(04-12-2021 03:45 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(04-12-2021 03:14 PM)Tigerspartan Wrote:  Cisse was a weird fit for penny’s plan from the beginning. He can’t guard the switch, and in this system you won’t see the floor much when everything is working the way it should

I really do not understand why people keep spouting this. Our defensive numbers as a team were considerably better when Cisse was on the court...

The guy is a game changer on the defensive end.

Absolutely

(04-13-2021 10:07 AM)uskjtc02 Wrote:  

(04-12-2021 03:45 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(04-12-2021 03:14 PM)Tigerspartan Wrote:  Cisse was a weird fit for penny’s plan from the beginning. He can’t guard the switch, and in this system you won’t see the floor much when everything is working the way it should

I really do not understand why people keep spouting this. Our defensive numbers as a team were considerably better when Cisse was on the court...

The guy is a game changer on the defensive end.

Absolutely

100%

(04-13-2021 08:46 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(04-13-2021 08:04 AM)TGTiger Wrote:  

(04-10-2021 02:05 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  

(04-10-2021 01:17 PM)TGTiger Wrote:  

(04-10-2021 01:04 PM)sherekhan Wrote:  I agree. Without him the defense will not be as effective and it stands to reason his offense would improve with more experience.

I hate to see him leave.

Completely agree. Too many middle age men and senior citizens on here living vicariously through 18-22 year olds. Cisse has been playing basketball for all of 6 years.

He has a lot to work on but also has a lot of upside.

I haven’t read the entire thread. Would you mind elaborating?

Over the top comments like some in this thread referring to a kid who should be graduating HS (and who has played the sport for 5-6 years) as “mr rock hands.” There are several examples.

I got a negative comment for that post even though I didn’t explicitly call anyone here out so I must have hit too close to home for someone :)

I haven’t read through the thread to single out comments, but my frustration is not with fan expectation, but “handler” expectation. Anyone who watched Moussa this season saw a kid with raw talent and very little basketball IQ. The kid played at Lausanne, for Christ sakes, so he feasted on slow 5’11” white dudes from Collierville, and is now battling it out against players more experienced & equally gifted. Moussa improved as the season progressed, but his people obviously believe he should be NBA ready. Geez, 8 months ago, he wasn’t AAC ready... and that’s the rub. As a coach, handlers expect “their kid’s” development to be placed above other players, team goals & the coach’s job security. In many instances, a kid like Malcolm, who was further along than Moussa, was asked to sit while Moussa played & developed. Nothing wrong with investing in Moussa’s development, as certainly was any the arrangement from the beginning, but a kid like Moussa needs stability so he can build upon what he has learned... not yet another restart somewhere else... and certainly not in the NBA, where they’ll send him to purgatory in 2 years. If his “people” truly have his best interest in mind, then they’ll tell him to park it for 2 more years and prepare because he is no where close to being ready to play against the best players in the world.

What “handlers” does Cisse have?

(04-13-2021 12:55 PM)TGTiger Wrote:  

(04-13-2021 08:46 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(04-13-2021 08:04 AM)TGTiger Wrote:  

(04-10-2021 02:05 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  

(04-10-2021 01:17 PM)TGTiger Wrote:  Completely agree. Too many middle age men and senior citizens on here living vicariously through 18-22 year olds. Cisse has been playing basketball for all of 6 years.

He has a lot to work on but also has a lot of upside.

I haven’t read the entire thread. Would you mind elaborating?

Over the top comments like some in this thread referring to a kid who should be graduating HS (and who has played the sport for 5-6 years) as “mr rock hands.” There are several examples.

I got a negative comment for that post even though I didn’t explicitly call anyone here out so I must have hit too close to home for someone :)

I haven’t read through the thread to single out comments, but my frustration is not with fan expectation, but “handler” expectation. Anyone who watched Moussa this season saw a kid with raw talent and very little basketball IQ. The kid played at Lausanne, for Christ sakes, so he feasted on slow 5’11” white dudes from Collierville, and is now battling it out against players more experienced & equally gifted. Moussa improved as the season progressed, but his people obviously believe he should be NBA ready. Geez, 8 months ago, he wasn’t AAC ready... and that’s the rub. As a coach, handlers expect “their kid’s” development to be placed above other players, team goals & the coach’s job security. In many instances, a kid like Malcolm, who was further along than Moussa, was asked to sit while Moussa played & developed. Nothing wrong with investing in Moussa’s development, as certainly was any the arrangement from the beginning, but a kid like Moussa needs stability so he can build upon what he has learned... not yet another restart somewhere else... and certainly not in the NBA, where they’ll send him to purgatory in 2 years. If his “people” truly have his best interest in mind, then they’ll tell him to park it for 2 more years and prepare because he is no where close to being ready to play against the best players in the world.

What “handlers” does Cisse have?

Apparently not bright ones

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(04-13-2021 08:46 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(04-13-2021 08:04 AM)TGTiger Wrote:  

(04-10-2021 02:05 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  

(04-10-2021 01:17 PM)TGTiger Wrote:  

(04-10-2021 01:04 PM)sherekhan Wrote:  I agree. Without him the defense will not be as effective and it stands to reason his offense would improve with more experience.

I hate to see him leave.

Completely agree. Too many middle age men and senior citizens on here living vicariously through 18-22 year olds. Cisse has been playing basketball for all of 6 years.

He has a lot to work on but also has a lot of upside.

I haven’t read the entire thread. Would you mind elaborating?

Over the top comments like some in this thread referring to a kid who should be graduating HS (and who has played the sport for 5-6 years) as “mr rock hands.” There are several examples.

I got a negative comment for that post even though I didn’t explicitly call anyone here out so I must have hit too close to home for someone :)

I haven’t read through the thread to single out comments, but my frustration is not with fan expectation, but “handler” expectation. Anyone who watched Moussa this season saw a kid with raw talent and very little basketball IQ. The kid played at Lausanne, for Christ sakes, so he feasted on slow 5’11” white dudes from Collierville, and is now battling it out against players more experienced & equally gifted. Moussa improved as the season progressed, but his people obviously believe he should be NBA ready. Geez, 8 months ago, he wasn’t AAC ready... and that’s the rub. As a coach, handlers expect “their kid’s” development to be placed above other players, team goals & the coach’s job security. In many instances, a kid like Malcolm, who was further along than Moussa, was asked to sit while Moussa played & developed. Nothing wrong with investing in Moussa’s development, as certainly was any the arrangement from the beginning, but a kid like Moussa needs stability so he can build upon what he has learned... not yet another restart somewhere else... and certainly not in the NBA, where they’ll send him to purgatory in 2 years. If his “people” truly have his best interest in mind, then they’ll tell him to park it for 2 more years and prepare because he is no where close to being ready to play against the best players in the world.

Good stuff.

(04-13-2021 08:59 AM)Browning Hall Wrote:  

(04-13-2021 08:04 AM)TGTiger Wrote:  

(04-10-2021 02:05 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  

(04-10-2021 01:17 PM)TGTiger Wrote:  

(04-10-2021 01:04 PM)sherekhan Wrote:  I agree. Without him the defense will not be as effective and it stands to reason his offense would improve with more experience.

I hate to see him leave.

Completely agree. Too many middle age men and senior citizens on here living vicariously through 18-22 year olds. Cisse has been playing basketball for all of 6 years.

He has a lot to work on but also has a lot of upside.

I haven’t read the entire thread. Would you mind elaborating?

Over the top comments like some in this thread referring to a kid who should be graduating HS (and who has played the sport for 5-6 years) as “mr rock hands.” There are several examples.

I got a negative comment for that post even though I didn’t explicitly call anyone here out so I must have hit too close to home for someone :)

I got that part. I just don’t know the age of everyone here. From reading the posts, my guess is anywhere from 12 to 100.

Or 100 going on 12.

(04-13-2021 08:04 AM)TGTiger Wrote:  

(04-10-2021 02:05 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  

(04-10-2021 01:17 PM)TGTiger Wrote:  

(04-10-2021 01:04 PM)sherekhan Wrote:  

(04-10-2021 12:28 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  That is just it. Have a 7 foot center with his wingspan and athletic ability changes how the other team operates and runs their offense. That does not show up in just traditional stat lines but having him in the game changes how the other team operates. We did not have the #1 defense in the country by chance. He was a major part of the reason why.

I agree. Without him the defense will not be as effective and it stands to reason his offense would improve with more experience.

I hate to see him leave.

Completely agree. Too many middle age men and senior citizens on here living vicariously through 18-22 year olds. Cisse has been playing basketball for all of 6 years.

He has a lot to work on but also has a lot of upside.

I haven’t read the entire thread. Would you mind elaborating?

Over the top comments like some in this thread referring to a kid who should be graduating HS (and who has played the sport for 5-6 years) as “mr rock hands.” There are several examples.

I got a negative comment for that post even though I didn’t explicitly call anyone here out so I must have hit too close to home for someone :)

some people just get easily butt hurt ..,,,.,,....

(04-13-2021 05:16 PM)Cletus Wrote:  

(04-13-2021 08:04 AM)TGTiger Wrote:  

(04-10-2021 02:05 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  

(04-10-2021 01:17 PM)TGTiger Wrote:  

(04-10-2021 01:04 PM)sherekhan Wrote:  I agree. Without him the defense will not be as effective and it stands to reason his offense would improve with more experience.

I hate to see him leave.

Completely agree. Too many middle age men and senior citizens on here living vicariously through 18-22 year olds. Cisse has been playing basketball for all of 6 years.

He has a lot to work on but also has a lot of upside.

I haven’t read the entire thread. Would you mind elaborating?

Over the top comments like some in this thread referring to a kid who should be graduating HS (and who has played the sport for 5-6 years) as “mr rock hands.” There are several examples.

I got a negative comment for that post even though I didn’t explicitly call anyone here out so I must have hit too close to home for someone :)

some people just get easily butt hurt ..,,,.,,....

DAYUM

(04-13-2021 01:25 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(04-13-2021 12:55 PM)TGTiger Wrote:  

(04-13-2021 08:46 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(04-13-2021 08:04 AM)TGTiger Wrote:  

(04-10-2021 02:05 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  I haven’t read the entire thread. Would you mind elaborating?

Over the top comments like some in this thread referring to a kid who should be graduating HS (and who has played the sport for 5-6 years) as “mr rock hands.” There are several examples.

I got a negative comment for that post even though I didn’t explicitly call anyone here out so I must have hit too close to home for someone :)

I haven’t read through the thread to single out comments, but my frustration is not with fan expectation, but “handler” expectation. Anyone who watched Moussa this season saw a kid with raw talent and very little basketball IQ. The kid played at Lausanne, for Christ sakes, so he feasted on slow 5’11” white dudes from Collierville, and is now battling it out against players more experienced & equally gifted. Moussa improved as the season progressed, but his people obviously believe he should be NBA ready. Geez, 8 months ago, he wasn’t AAC ready... and that’s the rub. As a coach, handlers expect “their kid’s” development to be placed above other players, team goals & the coach’s job security. In many instances, a kid like Malcolm, who was further along than Moussa, was asked to sit while Moussa played & developed. Nothing wrong with investing in Moussa’s development, as certainly was any the arrangement from the beginning, but a kid like Moussa needs stability so he can build upon what he has learned... not yet another restart somewhere else... and certainly not in the NBA, where they’ll send him to purgatory in 2 years. If his “people” truly have his best interest in mind, then they’ll tell him to park it for 2 more years and prepare because he is no where close to being ready to play against the best players in the world.

What “handlers” does Cisse have?

Apparently not bright ones

I’ve not read anything on his “handlers” have you? Who are these ghost handlers that several in this thread seem to keep referring to?

Also I don’t see anything stupid about declaring without an agent for feedback. Quite the opposite.

He won’t get drafted but should get valuable feedback. Maybe it will motivate him even more to work on deficiencies.

Calling him names and piling on the things even the most casual fan likely observed last season seems childish.

Nobody is calling him names. Y'all make ish up.

So, anyway, how long does he have to decide. There is a time limit, right? So when will we know for sure what he's going to do?

(04-13-2021 07:20 PM)cmt Wrote:  Nobody is calling him names. Y'all make ish up.

So, anyway, how long does he have to decide. There is a time limit, right? So when will we know for sure what he's going to do?

I don’t make things up.

https://csnbbs.com/thread-920194-post-17...id17371231

He might be a pretty sound player in a few years but I don't know that missing out on his next season would be anything to cry over. Love to have him back, happy to move on if he doesn't choose that.

(04-10-2021 01:17 PM)TGTiger Wrote:  

(04-10-2021 01:04 PM)sherekhan Wrote:  

(04-10-2021 12:28 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote:  

(04-10-2021 12:15 PM)tnzazz Wrote:  Cisse on defense changes the game....it’s just that easy to see. His offense will grow. I definitely hope he comes back.


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That is just it. Have a 7 foot center with his wingspan and athletic ability changes how the other team operates and runs their offense. That does not show up in just traditional stat lines but having him in the game changes how the other team operates. We did not have the #1 defense in the country by chance. He was a major part of the reason why.

I agree. Without him the defense will not be as effective and it stands to reason his offense would improve with more experience.

I hate to see him leave.

Completely agree. Too many middle age men and senior citizens on here living vicariously through 18-22 year olds. Cisse has been playing basketball for all of 6 years.

He has a lot to work on but also has a lot of upside.

If your 12 year old child started playing basketball...Where would you expect them to be by their senior year.

Say your son is 6'...Would you expect your son to make the HS team if he had Moussa's skillset.

If you expect your career to be with the NBA, you take every opportunity to meet people and build relationships.

This is a smart move.

(04-13-2021 07:20 PM)cmt Wrote:  Nobody is calling him names. Y'all make ish up.

So, anyway, how long does he have to decide. There is a time limit, right? So when will we know for sure what he's going to do?

Nobody has. All we have done is critique his game. People are so sensitive now.

(04-13-2021 07:24 PM)TGTiger Wrote:  

(04-13-2021 07:20 PM)cmt Wrote:  Nobody is calling him names. Y'all make ish up.

So, anyway, how long does he have to decide. There is a time limit, right? So when will we know for sure what he's going to do?

I don’t make things up.

https://csnbbs.com/thread-920194-post-17...id17371231

So where’s the name calling ? Someone saying he probably won’t get drafted ?

Somehow saying "hands of stone" is name calling. Snowflakes.

He is an African basketball player from a single mom household who didn't move to NY until he hit a growth spurt at age 16. Always attending private schools, he moved from NY to Memphis in HS, and became the #10 recruit. If you don't think he has handlers in this day & age, I don't know what to tell you.

I admire his story. But he has a long way to go to make NBA money. And it appears that Memphis might be moving on without him.