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RE: Is America Turning Into Nazi Germany?
(03-22-2021 11:32 AM)JRsec Wrote:  It ceased being about race a long time ago and became about making demands for free stuff the rest of us work to get.

It's actually about power. "Keep 'em dumb, keep 'em poor, keep 'em dependent on handouts, and you can keep 'em voting democrat."

And republicans can't seem to figure this out an offer credible opposition. It's not that hard.
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(03-22-2021 11:32 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(03-22-2021 11:01 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  No one is perfect, no country is perfect. The whole idea that "imperfection" = "evil" is asinine and trollish.

Let's put this into terms that express what actually happened and is happening.

The nation in the mid 1800's decided to deal with slavery because it was contradictory to the principles of the union. A horrible war was fought to determine the outcome.

Slavery existed at the time the nation was created because it was permitted by the colonizing forces in Europe and began with indentured servants which were a limited form of slavery that could be chose or the result of debts. A collusion between the Portuguese and certain African tribes led to the capture and sale of Africans to the colonies.

So what legally existed under European law was finally settled by conflict in the new world.

Political power struggles led to Jim Crow laws which disenfranchised freed slaves. The Civil Rights movement mid century in the 1900's put an end to that.

Discrimination at the work place was addressed in the 1970's and Affirmative Action was born as a temporary measure to address the wrong of job discrimination.

Then the flip began. Affirmative Action was more broadly applied and the concept used to alter admissions requirements at Universities, then used to alter ACT and SAT lines of examination, then White Bias was claimed to thwart the teaching of logic and now Math is under assault.

Equal opportunity was abandoned for trying to fix it so that there were equal results. When equal results are chosen as a societal goal competence and innovation start to break down and fail.

Our society was built on the being the brightest and the best and pursuing excellence. When the moronic leap, under the guise of Civil Rights, was to dumb down requirements to achieve equal results those damaged were the brightest and best of all races. It ceased to be about righting wrongs and became purely a regressive Socialist policy.

Since even forcing equal results can't work, now the issue is that Whites and Asians exist. This is as racist as it gets and the longer we allow these enemies of all that is profoundly good about being a mere human (creativity, innovation, curiosity, scientific approach, thinking beyond the scope of one's own existence) and instead expecting to be given shelter, food, clothing, and entertainment for simply existing, we continue to feed a nihilism that will destroy us all.

So when you say no country is perfect that is true, but what goes unsaid is that for 200 plus years of this nation's existence it has truly tried to become a more perfect and just union, at least until about the 1990's when Liberation Theology gave rise to Critical Race Theory, and both are simply the repackaging of Marxism in the guise of social reform.

It ceased being about race a long time ago and became about making demands for free stuff the rest of us work to get.


If they keep goading the Whites and Asians racially, and attacking the productive African Americans, and family oriented hard working Hispanics, they are going to bite off way more than they can chew and they will force this country's people to fight back. When that happens, if corporations throw in with the middle class, we will have fascism and the scapegoats will be those who alienated themselves by provoking the productive who always remain asleep at the wheel until they get threatened and then always strike back forcefully and ferociously like they did against Germany and Japan.

These Marxist agitators, and that is what they are, think that they can make inroads if they poke the middle class. All they will do is what Yamamoto feared, "awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve."

America is not being attacked because it is racist, because it is one of the least racist nations in a world filled with xenophobes. America is being attacked because it is massively successful in a world that competes for resources. And it is being attacked because it doesn't think about race and if we don't think about it those groups that exist and profit from claims of racism fail. So they have to manufacture racism where it doesn't exist and they do that through Critical Race Theory that tells people how everything can be twisted to be considered racist, and by pissing off the productive middle class hoping to make them feel guilty.

I wonder if these dumbasses realize that when Americans get through feeling guilty they just get pissed off and all sympathy disappears? I wonder that because that's where we are headed fast and capitalism without sympathy is as cold hearted and as vicious as it gets. So pushing no "God" as religions usually encourage compassion, and pushing hate for racial groups like Asians and Whites, is going to prompt a merciless backlash that a fraction of a minority isn't going to want to experience.

you guys just received the history lesson they don't teach...
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This is from a columnist of ABQ Journal.

Quote:It sometimes feels as though our democracy is broken, and I wonder if it is our own fault. We have the right to know what our government does on our behalf, but we have become an apathetic citizenry, apparently not caring enough to speak up when we don’t like how politicians run the government or spend our tax dollars.

When was the last time you went to a City Council meeting, read a proposed piece of legislation or contacted an elected official to express your opinion about a bill you thought was a lousy idea? I’m betting it was either a long time ago, or never.

The mainstream public has been effectively canceled by its own silence, and much smaller groups of outspoken activists have stepped into the void. As a result, politicians – and “woke” corporations – bend to interest groups’ desires even though it is clear their demands are not supported by the majority. Defund the police, keep the schools closed, refuse to prosecute for looting, arson or destruction of property, cancel nonconforming people and products.

Activists hammer on issues and politicians react. What the majority wants ceases to matter. This is not the way a democracy is supposed to function.

Did you register opinions on allowing sanctuary cities, prisoners’ right to vote, national health care or recent unconstitutional voting law changes? Were you allowed input into President Joe Biden’s executive order that suddenly halted drilling on federal lands and shut down construction of the XL pipeline, erasing thousands of American jobs?

For years now we, the public, have been left out of the right to know what our elected officials are doing before they do it. Presidential orders and mysterious congressional actions abound, initiated by both Republicans and Democrats.

I hadn’t really pondered how often Americans have given up their “right to know” until I was contacted recently by an Italian named Matteo Angioli, secretary general the Global Committee for the Rule of Law. Matteo wanted to discuss one of my past columns in which I wrote,

“We have entered a phase of politics where leading by partisan edict is becoming more frequent. No debate of issues, just politicians who feel emboldened to ram through their ideas.”

Speaking via Zoom from his home near Florence, Italy, Matteo told me he thought those two lines summed up “perfectly one of the biggest issues of our time.”

We had a fascinating conversation about his efforts to change things by working with the Council of Europe, an international organization founded right after World War II and dedicated to upholding human rights, democracy and the rule of law. Matteo’s goal is tied to the Tromsø Convention, which calls for all European countries to increase government transparency, improve public access to official documents and politician’s decision-making processes, and to restore citizen’s trust in government.

Wouldn’t it be great if our state and national governments followed the Tromsø Convention? While Americans can file Freedom of Information requests for government documents, it is a cumbersome and arbitrary system. Yes, a few U.S. politicians still hold occasional town hall meetings, but open public debate forums should become the norm.

Matteo and I agreed civilians need to care about their “right to know” again. We have to find time in our hectic lives to get informed about where our country and our taxes are headed, and if we don’t like it to voice our opposition. We need to fight our apathy so a sense of equality and justice can prevail.

The lynchpin in all this, of course, is a fair and impartial media. It is their job to report what’s really important. Instead of concentrating on who-said-what-on-Twitter years ago, media outlets need to return to truly informing the public about government activities.

Another trillion-dollar spending bill is already in the congressional pipeline. I’d like to see a full accounting of where that money will go before the bill passes.

Yes, American citizens have a right to know what our elected leaders are doing – every step of the way. But If we don’t make our desires known to the politicians, those small groups of eager activists will continue to drive the national narrative. They will continue to erode our society.

Time to let politicians know what you want.

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(03-22-2021 12:27 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  
Quote:“We have entered a phase of politics where leading by partisan edict is becoming more frequent. No debate of issues, just politicians who feel emboldened to ram through their ideas.”
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Yep. Team over country, all the way.

We have one side passionately pursuing an evil agenda, and the other side too stupid figure out how to stop them.
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(03-22-2021 12:37 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(03-22-2021 12:27 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  
Quote:“We have entered a phase of politics where leading by partisan edict is becoming more frequent. No debate of issues, just politicians who feel emboldened to ram through their ideas.”
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Yep. Team over country, all the way.

We have one side passionately pursuing an evil agenda, and the other side too stupid figure out how to stop them.

Stupid/lazy/chickenshiiit/complicit/all of the above take your pick
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RE: Is America Turning Into Nazi Germany?
(03-22-2021 12:43 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  
(03-22-2021 12:37 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(03-22-2021 12:27 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  
Quote:“We have entered a phase of politics where leading by partisan edict is becoming more frequent. No debate of issues, just politicians who feel emboldened to ram through their ideas.”
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Yep. Team over country, all the way.

We have one side passionately pursuing an evil agenda, and the other side too stupid figure out how to stop them.

Stupid/lazy/chickenshiiit/complicit/all of the above take your pick

Uhm, add in the pockets of some of the same corporations that are behind the backasward policies of the Dems.
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Good point
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(03-22-2021 01:15 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(03-22-2021 12:43 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  
(03-22-2021 12:37 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(03-22-2021 12:27 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  
Quote:“We have entered a phase of politics where leading by partisan edict is becoming more frequent. No debate of issues, just politicians who feel emboldened to ram through their ideas.”
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Yep. Team over country, all the way.

We have one side passionately pursuing an evil agenda, and the other side too stupid figure out how to stop them.

Stupid/lazy/chickenshiiit/complicit/all of the above take your pick

Uhm, add in the pockets of some of the same corporations that are behind the backasward policies of the Dems.

...and the pubs...

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