(03-14-2021 10:39 PM)Old Sammy Wrote:  

(03-14-2021 09:38 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  I didn't see that toss in the video (from the Rice baseball twitter feed - about 15 minutes ago). I'm not really sure where the error was unless it was when the SS didn't pick up the ball right away after it took the bad hop off him. He tried to pick it up and it dribbled a few feet in front of him.

I definitely think it's a single - hard hit and a crazy hop right in front of the fielder (who was blocked out by Dukes running in front of him too).

From the Twitter feed it looks like Dukes' running was a significant factor in the SS's misplay. He passed directly in front of him. The ball passed less than a foot behind him. Even if he hadn't dribbled the pickup it appears Garibay was safe at 2nd.

And Janish’s aggressive coaching at third waving him around.

(03-14-2021 11:59 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  

(03-14-2021 10:39 PM)Old Sammy Wrote:  

(03-14-2021 09:38 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  I didn't see that toss in the video (from the Rice baseball twitter feed - about 15 minutes ago). I'm not really sure where the error was unless it was when the SS didn't pick up the ball right away after it took the bad hop off him. He tried to pick it up and it dribbled a few feet in front of him.

I definitely think it's a single - hard hit and a crazy hop right in front of the fielder (who was blocked out by Dukes running in front of him too).

From the Twitter feed it looks like Dukes' running was a significant factor in the SS's misplay. He passed directly in front of him. The ball passed less than a foot behind him. Even if he hadn't dribbled the pickup it appears Garibay was safe at 2nd.

And Janish’s aggressive coaching at third waving him around.

It was a pretty easy call as, if you look at the replay, the hit and run was on. Duke took a walking lead and had already started running before Comeaux made contact. That's why he was so far down the basepath as the ball passed him. Gutsy call by Bragga given that there were two outs with a man in scoring position already (2B) with your best hitter at bat.

Back to the defensive effort last night:

K-state has averaged six runs per game so far this season. This was the first time they were shut out; their prior season low was a 2-1 victory.

(03-15-2021 07:38 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(03-14-2021 11:59 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  

(03-14-2021 10:39 PM)Old Sammy Wrote:  

(03-14-2021 09:38 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  I didn't see that toss in the video (from the Rice baseball twitter feed - about 15 minutes ago). I'm not really sure where the error was unless it was when the SS didn't pick up the ball right away after it took the bad hop off him. He tried to pick it up and it dribbled a few feet in front of him.

I definitely think it's a single - hard hit and a crazy hop right in front of the fielder (who was blocked out by Dukes running in front of him too).

From the Twitter feed it looks like Dukes' running was a significant factor in the SS's misplay. He passed directly in front of him. The ball passed less than a foot behind him. Even if he hadn't dribbled the pickup it appears Garibay was safe at 2nd.

And Janish’s aggressive coaching at third waving him around.

It was a pretty easy call as, if you look at the replay, the hit and run was on. Duke took a walking lead and had already started running before Comeaux made contact. That's why he was so far down the basepath as the ball passed him. Gutsy call by Bragga given that there were two outs with a man in scoring position already (2B) with your best hitter at bat.

I don't know if that was a hit and run. Dukes had to jump to get out of the way of a ball hit to the SS, so he had not made much progress to 3rd as you would hope on a hit and run. However, if it was a hit and run, I would say it was beyond gutsy. If was was, I would mildly use the word stupid. Why? The count was 0-2 with two outs, so there is no reason to risk the inning when the pitcher could easily be trying to get the hitter to chase outside the zone. A pitch a foot outside or in the dirt ends the inning on a hit and run.

Unrelated to Rice but this just happened in the TT-UConn game

https://twitter.com/ttu_baseball/status/...13893?s=21

(03-15-2021 02:34 PM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote:  Unrelated to Rice but this just happened in the TT-UConn game

https://twitter.com/ttu_baseball/status/...13893?s=21

That kind of offense is definitely unrelated to Rice.

(03-15-2021 02:34 PM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote:  Unrelated to Rice but this just happened in the TT-UConn game

https://twitter.com/ttu_baseball/status/...13893?s=21

Gorilla ball is back!

(03-15-2021 01:40 PM)Owl Is In Chains Wrote:  

(03-15-2021 07:38 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(03-14-2021 11:59 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  

(03-14-2021 10:39 PM)Old Sammy Wrote:  

(03-14-2021 09:38 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  I didn't see that toss in the video (from the Rice baseball twitter feed - about 15 minutes ago). I'm not really sure where the error was unless it was when the SS didn't pick up the ball right away after it took the bad hop off him. He tried to pick it up and it dribbled a few feet in front of him.

I definitely think it's a single - hard hit and a crazy hop right in front of the fielder (who was blocked out by Dukes running in front of him too).

From the Twitter feed it looks like Dukes' running was a significant factor in the SS's misplay. He passed directly in front of him. The ball passed less than a foot behind him. Even if he hadn't dribbled the pickup it appears Garibay was safe at 2nd.

And Janish’s aggressive coaching at third waving him around.

It was a pretty easy call as, if you look at the replay, the hit and run was on. Duke took a walking lead and had already started running before Comeaux made contact. That's why he was so far down the basepath as the ball passed him. Gutsy call by Bragga given that there were two outs with a man in scoring position already (2B) with your best hitter at bat.

I don't know if that was a hit and run. Dukes had to jump to get out of the way of a ball hit to the SS, so he had not made much progress to 3rd as you would hope on a hit and run. However, if it was a hit and run, I would say it was beyond gutsy. If was was, I would mildly use the word stupid. Why? The count was 0-2 with two outs, so there is no reason to risk the inning when the pitcher could easily be trying to get the hitter to chase outside the zone. A pitch a foot outside or in the dirt ends the inning on a hit and run.

Again, look at the video. Duke was taking a walking lead, then started jogging to 3B as the pitch was delivered and before Comeaux made contact. That was a laser shot. There's no way Duke could have made it to the other side of the ball had he not been running. But go ahead a relook at the video; it's pretty clear.

(03-15-2021 04:36 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(03-15-2021 01:40 PM)Owl Is In Chains Wrote:  

(03-15-2021 07:38 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(03-14-2021 11:59 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  

(03-14-2021 10:39 PM)Old Sammy Wrote:  From the Twitter feed it looks like Dukes' running was a significant factor in the SS's misplay. He passed directly in front of him. The ball passed less than a foot behind him. Even if he hadn't dribbled the pickup it appears Garibay was safe at 2nd.

And Janish’s aggressive coaching at third waving him around.

It was a pretty easy call as, if you look at the replay, the hit and run was on. Duke took a walking lead and had already started running before Comeaux made contact. That's why he was so far down the basepath as the ball passed him. Gutsy call by Bragga given that there were two outs with a man in scoring position already (2B) with your best hitter at bat.

I don't know if that was a hit and run. Dukes had to jump to get out of the way of a ball hit to the SS, so he had not made much progress to 3rd as you would hope on a hit and run. However, if it was a hit and run, I would say it was beyond gutsy. If was was, I would mildly use the word stupid. Why? The count was 0-2 with two outs, so there is no reason to risk the inning when the pitcher could easily be trying to get the hitter to chase outside the zone. A pitch a foot outside or in the dirt ends the inning on a hit and run.

Again, look at the video. Duke was taking a walking lead, then started jogging to 3B as the pitch was delivered and before Comeaux made contact. That was a laser shot. There's no way Duke could have made it to the other side of the ball had he not been running. But go ahead a relook at the video; it's pretty clear.

If it was a true hit and run, Duke wouldn't/shouldn't have been "jogging to 3B as the pitch was delivered and before Comeaux made contact". He would/should have been running hard. I think he was just extending his walking lead as he should have been off 2B, and which may have also prevented him from being hit by Comeaux's rocket, which was behind Duke, but still caused him to react as if he thought it might hit him. In any event, it worked out well and was the kind of aggressive baseball I'd like to see more often from the Owls. If you watch the video, you will also see Janish was more than half way down the line toward home. Paul was definitely into the play as well as Duke!

(03-15-2021 04:36 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(03-15-2021 01:40 PM)Owl Is In Chains Wrote:  

(03-15-2021 07:38 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(03-14-2021 11:59 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  

(03-14-2021 10:39 PM)Old Sammy Wrote:  From the Twitter feed it looks like Dukes' running was a significant factor in the SS's misplay. He passed directly in front of him. The ball passed less than a foot behind him. Even if he hadn't dribbled the pickup it appears Garibay was safe at 2nd.

And Janish’s aggressive coaching at third waving him around.

It was a pretty easy call as, if you look at the replay, the hit and run was on. Duke took a walking lead and had already started running before Comeaux made contact. That's why he was so far down the basepath as the ball passed him. Gutsy call by Bragga given that there were two outs with a man in scoring position already (2B) with your best hitter at bat.

I don't know if that was a hit and run. Dukes had to jump to get out of the way of a ball hit to the SS, so he had not made much progress to 3rd as you would hope on a hit and run. However, if it was a hit and run, I would say it was beyond gutsy. If was was, I would mildly use the word stupid. Why? The count was 0-2 with two outs, so there is no reason to risk the inning when the pitcher could easily be trying to get the hitter to chase outside the zone. A pitch a foot outside or in the dirt ends the inning on a hit and run.

Again, look at the video. Duke was taking a walking lead, then started jogging to 3B as the pitch was delivered and before Comeaux made contact. That was a laser shot. There's no way Duke could have made it to the other side of the ball had he not been running. But go ahead a relook at the video; it's pretty clear.

I still have a hard time seeing that. I don't see the runner from first come into the frame before contact. Also, if you are on second with two outs with the potential leading run, you are cheating as much as possible to get a big jump so you can score on a single to the outfield. You don't have to worry about line drive outs to infielders. Also, why jog? You should be running all out?

Having said that, if indeed it was a hit and run, would you agree that it would be idiotic to do a hit and run on an 0-2 pitch with 2 outs when most pitchers would try to get you to chase?

(03-15-2021 05:33 PM)Owl Is In Chains Wrote:  

(03-15-2021 04:36 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(03-15-2021 01:40 PM)Owl Is In Chains Wrote:  

(03-15-2021 07:38 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(03-14-2021 11:59 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  And Janish’s aggressive coaching at third waving him around.

It was a pretty easy call as, if you look at the replay, the hit and run was on. Duke took a walking lead and had already started running before Comeaux made contact. That's why he was so far down the basepath as the ball passed him. Gutsy call by Bragga given that there were two outs with a man in scoring position already (2B) with your best hitter at bat.

I don't know if that was a hit and run. Dukes had to jump to get out of the way of a ball hit to the SS, so he had not made much progress to 3rd as you would hope on a hit and run. However, if it was a hit and run, I would say it was beyond gutsy. If was was, I would mildly use the word stupid. Why? The count was 0-2 with two outs, so there is no reason to risk the inning when the pitcher could easily be trying to get the hitter to chase outside the zone. A pitch a foot outside or in the dirt ends the inning on a hit and run.

Again, look at the video. Duke was taking a walking lead, then started jogging to 3B as the pitch was delivered and before Comeaux made contact. That was a laser shot. There's no way Duke could have made it to the other side of the ball had he not been running. But go ahead a relook at the video; it's pretty clear.

I still have a hard time seeing that. I don't see the runner from first come into the frame before contact. Also, if you are on second with two outs with the potential leading run, you are cheating as much as possible to get a big jump so you can score on a single to the outfield. You don't have to worry about line drive outs to infielders. Also, why jog? You should be running all out?

Having said that, if indeed it was a hit and run, would you agree that it would be idiotic to do a hit and run on an 0-2 pitch with 2 outs when most pitchers would try to get you to chase?

Yes, I agree, and I agree he shouldn't have been jogging, but I disagree that Duke was simply extending his lead. If you watch the video he was at first taking a walking lead and then started running (not at full speed) before Comeaux began to swing. It really is pretty clear from the video. No way Duke would have been that far down the base path otherwise. He was more than half way to 3B before the batted ball passed him.

(03-15-2021 05:43 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(03-15-2021 05:33 PM)Owl Is In Chains Wrote:  

(03-15-2021 04:36 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(03-15-2021 01:40 PM)Owl Is In Chains Wrote:  

(03-15-2021 07:38 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  It was a pretty easy call as, if you look at the replay, the hit and run was on. Duke took a walking lead and had already started running before Comeaux made contact. That's why he was so far down the basepath as the ball passed him. Gutsy call by Bragga given that there were two outs with a man in scoring position already (2B) with your best hitter at bat.

I don't know if that was a hit and run. Dukes had to jump to get out of the way of a ball hit to the SS, so he had not made much progress to 3rd as you would hope on a hit and run. However, if it was a hit and run, I would say it was beyond gutsy. If was was, I would mildly use the word stupid. Why? The count was 0-2 with two outs, so there is no reason to risk the inning when the pitcher could easily be trying to get the hitter to chase outside the zone. A pitch a foot outside or in the dirt ends the inning on a hit and run.

Again, look at the video. Duke was taking a walking lead, then started jogging to 3B as the pitch was delivered and before Comeaux made contact. That was a laser shot. There's no way Duke could have made it to the other side of the ball had he not been running. But go ahead a relook at the video; it's pretty clear.

I still have a hard time seeing that. I don't see the runner from first come into the frame before contact. Also, if you are on second with two outs with the potential leading run, you are cheating as much as possible to get a big jump so you can score on a single to the outfield. You don't have to worry about line drive outs to infielders. Also, why jog? You should be running all out?

Having said that, if indeed it was a hit and run, would you agree that it would be idiotic to do a hit and run on an 0-2 pitch with 2 outs when most pitchers would try to get you to chase?

Yes, I agree, and I agree he shouldn't have been jogging, but I disagree that Duke was simply extending his lead. If you watch the video he was at first taking a walking lead and then started running (not at full speed) before Comeaux began to swing. It really is pretty clear from the video. No way Duke would have been that far down the base path otherwise. He was more than half way to 3B before the batted ball passed him.

That is not a hit and run, at all. Dukes is clearly getting a very aggressive secondary lead, given the situation (late in the game, two outs, 0-2 count) and the fact that he is not being held on. He must score on a batted ball, and if the pitch was a ball, the second baseman would not have beat him back to the bag behind him. Dukes did a great job, and that was definitely, 100%, unequivocally not a hit and run.

(03-16-2021 03:14 PM)DMS Owl Wrote:  

(03-15-2021 05:43 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(03-15-2021 05:33 PM)Owl Is In Chains Wrote:  

(03-15-2021 04:36 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(03-15-2021 01:40 PM)Owl Is In Chains Wrote:  I don't know if that was a hit and run. Dukes had to jump to get out of the way of a ball hit to the SS, so he had not made much progress to 3rd as you would hope on a hit and run. However, if it was a hit and run, I would say it was beyond gutsy. If was was, I would mildly use the word stupid. Why? The count was 0-2 with two outs, so there is no reason to risk the inning when the pitcher could easily be trying to get the hitter to chase outside the zone. A pitch a foot outside or in the dirt ends the inning on a hit and run.

Again, look at the video. Duke was taking a walking lead, then started jogging to 3B as the pitch was delivered and before Comeaux made contact. That was a laser shot. There's no way Duke could have made it to the other side of the ball had he not been running. But go ahead a relook at the video; it's pretty clear.

I still have a hard time seeing that. I don't see the runner from first come into the frame before contact. Also, if you are on second with two outs with the potential leading run, you are cheating as much as possible to get a big jump so you can score on a single to the outfield. You don't have to worry about line drive outs to infielders. Also, why jog? You should be running all out?

Having said that, if indeed it was a hit and run, would you agree that it would be idiotic to do a hit and run on an 0-2 pitch with 2 outs when most pitchers would try to get you to chase?

Yes, I agree, and I agree he shouldn't have been jogging, but I disagree that Duke was simply extending his lead. If you watch the video he was at first taking a walking lead and then started running (not at full speed) before Comeaux began to swing. It really is pretty clear from the video. No way Duke would have been that far down the base path otherwise. He was more than half way to 3B before the batted ball passed him.

That is not a hit and run, at all. Dukes is clearly getting a very aggressive secondary lead, given the situation (late in the game, two outs, 0-2 count) and the fact that he is not being held on. He must score on a batted ball, and if the pitch was a ball, the second baseman would not have beat him back to the bag behind him. Dukes did a great job, and that was definitely, 100%, unequivocally not a hit and run.

It might not have been a hit & run in the truest sense, but it was NOT simply an aggressive secondary lead....and there is no way in hell he would have beaten the 2B back to the bag had it been a ball. He was jogging toward 3B and his momentum was in that direction. In fact, had it been a ball there would have been a play at 3B. Again he was more than half way down the base path when the ball was hit.