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(03-11-2021 11:48 AM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

What will that woman and soyboy do if they didn't leave? Call the police?
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(03-10-2021 06:29 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  I never get picked for jury duty in the civilian world...white, retired military officer equals immediate disqualification from the defense.

I'm less likely than you. White, retired military officer, attorney, and CPA. Nobody wants me on their jury.
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(03-09-2021 03:20 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  Prosecutors dont want THIS guy...



Someone tell the dummy it's PERemptory.

If your gonna go on the twitter and be the smartest guy in the room don't trip and fall over the threshold.
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(03-11-2021 01:06 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

Isn't 3rd degree a lesser charge than 2nd degree?

Breaking: Minnesota Court Reinstates Third Degree Murder Charges Against Officer Chauvin as Second-Degree Murder Case Implodes

Yeah.

I don't really get how they are allowing this.

IMHO, the Minnesota courts absolutely bent to judicial activism when holding this charge applicable to the cop shooting the lady in pajamas a few years ago.

Basically, the courts saw there was no way he did it intentionally (2nd degree) but thought "what he did was bad enough to go to jail" so they made the 3rd degree fit. (my opinion)

It seems like the 3rd degree statute was meant for killings when the deceased wasn't the intended person.

It also underscores how sh!tty legislation can be written which requires courts to guess as to the meaning (or invent) of crappily written statutes.
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(03-11-2021 01:06 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

Isn't 3rd degree a lesser charge than 2nd degree?

Breaking: Minnesota Court Reinstates Third Degree Murder Charges Against Officer Chauvin as Second-Degree Murder Case Implodes
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Going to avoid the Twin Cities like the plague when the verdict gets announced. The riots won't impact us in greater Minnesota - where people will actually defend their property.
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(03-11-2021 03:23 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Because she thinks the Police WILL protect him, or they WON'T?
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(03-11-2021 11:48 AM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Great. So now we have our very own No Go Zones.

How about those innocent homeowners? You see what appears to be reasonably well kept up, perhaps middle-class homes. Are they kicked out forever? My Dad grew up on a street like that, only in St Paul, would they have lost everything over something they had nothing to do with?

Where are the cops in this?
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(03-08-2021 12:47 PM)450bench Wrote:  Yep absolutely. I think it will trigger an actual civil war. For the record, I think he has to be convicted because what he did was truly heinous.


The inconvenient truth here is that if Floyd had not ingested a deadly amount of fentanyl he likely would have never died, no matter how long they had him on the ground with a knee in him.

And the only reason he was on the ground with a knee on him in the first place is he refused to get in the car after they peacefully tired to get him in for several minutes. They tried and tried and tried to get him in the car and he cause the whole thing by resisting.

The initial edited clip really angered me, but like most people when I saw the full clip and had more detail of his OD, it changed my view.
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(03-11-2021 04:07 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  The inconvenient truth here is that if Floyd had not ingested a deadly amount of fentanyl he likely would have never died, no matter how long they had him on the ground with a knee in him.

And the only reason he was on the ground with a knee on him in the first place is he refused to get in the car after they peacefully tired to get him in for several minutes.

The initial edited clip really angered me, but like most people when I saw the full clip and had more detail of his OD, it changed my view.

That's me too.
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(03-11-2021 04:09 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  
(03-11-2021 04:07 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  The inconvenient truth here is that if Floyd had not ingested a deadly amount of fentanyl he likely would have never died, no matter how long they had him on the ground with a knee in him.

And the only reason he was on the ground with a knee on him in the first place is he refused to get in the car after they peacefully tired to get him in for several minutes.

The initial edited clip really angered me, but like most people when I saw the full clip and had more detail of his OD, it changed my view.

That's me too.



I think some people have still never seen the full clip.

The initial clip we saw shows just how powerful of an effect targeted video editing can color peoples responses.
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It angered me how long they kept a knee on him after he stopped moving, but again when you watch the full clip you understand more why they did.

It was a difficult situation for the cops. They guy was clearly on something and looked like he just passed out after resisting violently for several minutes.

He was claiming he couldn't breath while he was just standing there LONG before they ever got him on the ground, and if you can't breath then why are you violently resisting? It looked like he was just trying to whine his way out of an arrest.
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(03-11-2021 04:19 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  It was a difficult situation for the cops. They guy was clearly on something and looked like he just passed out after resisting violently for several minutes.

He was claiming he couldn't breath while he was just standing there LONG before they ever got him on the ground, and if you can't breath then why are you violently resisting? It looked like he was just trying to whine his way out of an arrest.

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(03-11-2021 12:40 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(03-09-2021 03:20 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  Prosecutors dont want THIS guy...



Someone tell the dummy it's PERemptory.

If YOU'RE gonna go on the twitter and be the smartest guy in the room don't trip and fall over the threshold.

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(03-11-2021 05:09 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  
(03-11-2021 12:40 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(03-09-2021 03:20 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  Prosecutors dont want THIS guy...



Someone tell the dummy it's PERemptory.

If YOU'RE gonna go on the twitter and be the smartest guy in the room don't trip and fall over the threshold.

fyp

Funny. Corrected an layman on a word only attorneys use but couldn't get basic English right. Thanks Ms. Magilucutty. You fail.
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