(02-21-2021 02:51 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(02-21-2021 02:18 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Didn't you know? Impassioned Conservatives are a terrorist theat. Hell, anything that opposes the Marxist bastards who are currently in power is a terrorist threat. Add that to all of the soccer moms who don't want to be called racist or privileged by Oprah and Ellen or the View, and the only socially acceptable place for them is in the tepid category. They want better for their kids, but won't stand up to the crap they teach in public education, and won't risk getting banned from Facebook and Twitter. If you won't stand up for yourself on social media, and you are more concerned about fake public opinion than what is right and just then you aren't worth a damn and can't be counted on to do what is required.
So there's your dilemma Owl. If you stand up you are a threat. If you want to be liked you're screwed anyway.
Just tell the truth, we have a boat load of so called conservatives who aren't worth a damn in a fight for survival. They'd sell you and me out in a heartbeat just like the sorry ***** in the Republican Party that they elect. People concerned about appearances simply can't ever be counted on, not in politics, not in your community, and sure as hell not in your Fox Hole!
Back to Dad's rule: Stay away from stupid people. Stupid people get you killed!

I've read a couple of interesting books recently, George Friedman's THE STORM BEFORE THE CALM, and Andrei Martyanov's LOSING MILITARY SUPREMACY. Both basically describe, in different contexts, a situation where the USA has become a struggle between the elites and common sense. Martyanov is a Russian immigrant, and there is a bit of a pro-Russian bias in his writings, but he basically says that the neocon elites in both parties (neocons came from the democrats, remember, Scoop Jackson was probably the quintessential neocon) missed a huge opportunity after 1990 to forge an alliance with Russia, and have driven Russia and China together in an alliance that we can't defeat. Friedman expects the struggle between the elites and common sense to come to a head some time in the next decade. So do I.

I think the driver will not be a military defeat, but rather a tanking of the economy. As Martyanov notes, we are falling behind China in manufacturing, across the board, and sustaining economic prosperity (not to mention a middle class) without manufacturing is going to be well nigh impossible.

I see a tremendous opportunity for republicans to position themselves as the party of restoring American manufacturing, and as such to become the party of the blue collar middle class against the ivory tower elites that dominate the democrats. But they need to get high behind that, and folks like Mitch McConnell are going to have zero credibility in selling that. I still think it was tragic that GHWB and Jack Kemp disliked each other intensely. I think that following Reagan with an administration with Kemp as VP, where GHWB handled foreign policy and Kemp handled domestic policy, would have left us in far better shape than we are today. Looking back at 1992, I think Ross Perot had a lot of good ideas (too bad he was a nutcase in other ways) and I think Bill Clinton was a good domestic president although he missed a lot of opportunities (including Martyanov's above) on the diplomatic side.

The democrat vision of a socialist/communist/fascist (three peas in the same pod) Amerika is a country where I do not want to live, and right now I don't see a credible alternative coming from republicans. Democrats are passionate for a terrible agenda, and republicans are simply satisfied, and passion beats satisfaction 1000 times out of 1000.

Owl I think you are a dreamer. You leave out the single most important ingredient for a comeback of American industry and exceptionalism. None of it has a chance in hell unless we take back the classrooms. The Ivory Tower elites dominate the young because they have been programmed not to think, but to receive approval. There is no blue collar coalition until the blue collar is trained to think for themselves and that is not what the schools are producing. They have handicapped the kids where it comes to critical thought, analysis, and basic math and science skills. 3 generations preconditioned to recognition answers but without the ability to explain why an answer is correct, let alone why it is important is why we have fallen behind.

You can't bake even the simplest of cakes successfully without good ingredients and you can't build a solid house upon a poor foundation. So your assumption that we need a president who will return blue collar jobs just got proven to be a fallacy. Trump was a blue collar as you will get and the workers turned out in record numbers for him and he was defeated by the 18 to 30 vote who crawled out of momma's basement to vote for Biden at the urging of the Ivory tower crowd, which the only thing elite about them would be their egos and he lengths they will go to remain powerful.

So if this is your conclusion the you are way out of touch with reality. If you want to win you have to take back the curriculum and classrooms from the Left. Then you erode the base that is replacing the Boomers and keep the balance of power with the middle class. This coalition you speak of would be favored if that happens because Hispanics will trend more conservative than reactionary.

And I don't think it is too late to build a coalition with Russia. Putin knows how xenophobic the Chinese really are and he can't be as comfortable empowering them as he would be sharing with us.

(02-21-2021 03:09 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Owl I think you are a dreamer. You leave out the single most important ingredient for a comeback of American industry and exceptionalism. None of it has a chance in hell unless we take back the classrooms. The Ivory Tower elites dominate the young because they have been programmed not to think, but to receive approval. There is no blue collar coalition until the blue collar is trained to think for themselves and that is not what the schools are producing. They have handicapped the kids where it comes to critical thought, analysis, and basic math and science skills. 3 generations preconditioned to recognition answers but without the ability to explain why an answer is correct, let alone why it is important is why we have fallen behind.
You can't bake even the simplest of cakes successfully without good ingredients and you can't build a solid house upon a poor foundation. So your assumption that we need a president who will return blue collar jobs just got proven to be a fallacy. Trump was a blue collar as you will get and the workers turned out in record numbers for him and he was defeated by the 18 to 30 vote who crawled out of momma's basement to vote for Biden at the urging of the Ivory tower crowd, which the only thing elite about them would be their egos and he lengths they will go to remain powerful.
So if this is your conclusion the you are way out of touch with reality. If you want to win you have to take back the curriculum and classrooms from the Left. Then you erode the base that is replacing the Boomers and keep the balance of power with the middle class. This coalition you speak of would be favored if that happens because Hispanics will trend more conservative than reactionary.
And I don't think it is too late to build a coalition with Russia. Putin knows how xenophobic the Chinese really are and he can't be as comfortable empowering them as he would be sharing with us.

If the economy goes where I think it is headed, there is going to be one very powerful backlash. It will be the blue collar working class against the elites. If republicans had any election sense, they could very easy start positioning themselves with the working and entrepreneurial classes against what will be the democratic coalition of the elites and the welfare class.

(02-21-2021 03:48 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(02-21-2021 03:09 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Owl I think you are a dreamer. You leave out the single most important ingredient for a comeback of American industry and exceptionalism. None of it has a chance in hell unless we take back the classrooms. The Ivory Tower elites dominate the young because they have been programmed not to think, but to receive approval. There is no blue collar coalition until the blue collar is trained to think for themselves and that is not what the schools are producing. They have handicapped the kids where it comes to critical thought, analysis, and basic math and science skills. 3 generations preconditioned to recognition answers but without the ability to explain why an answer is correct, let alone why it is important is why we have fallen behind.
You can't bake even the simplest of cakes successfully without good ingredients and you can't build a solid house upon a poor foundation. So your assumption that we need a president who will return blue collar jobs just got proven to be a fallacy. Trump was a blue collar as you will get and the workers turned out in record numbers for him and he was defeated by the 18 to 30 vote who crawled out of momma's basement to vote for Biden at the urging of the Ivory tower crowd, which the only thing elite about them would be their egos and he lengths they will go to remain powerful.
So if this is your conclusion the you are way out of touch with reality. If you want to win you have to take back the curriculum and classrooms from the Left. Then you erode the base that is replacing the Boomers and keep the balance of power with the middle class. This coalition you speak of would be favored if that happens because Hispanics will trend more conservative than reactionary.
And I don't think it is too late to build a coalition with Russia. Putin knows how xenophobic the Chinese really are and he can't be as comfortable empowering them as he would be sharing with us.

If the economy goes where I think it is headed, there is going to be one very powerful backlash. It will be the blue collar working class against the elites. If republicans had any election sense, they could very easy start positioning themselves with the working and entrepreneurial classes against what will be the democratic coalition of the elites and the welfare class.

And you ignored education. If you don't change that you never win again. There should never have been a backlash against all of the common sense trade moves and business moves that Trump made. But we didn't have the elite owned media, we didn't have the young, the WWII generation who had common sense and determination are gone. Boomer's are beginning to go, and if you don't control the young you lose.

So I don't buy your backlash theory at all and see it quite frankly as wishful thinking and lazy as opposed to proactive moves to overcome the socialist programming and virtue signaling of the 30 and under crowd who don't like lives that require work to get stuff. They don't give a damn about common sense as they have none, nor do they think about foreign trade and manufacturing because trade they see as big corporation stuff and manufacturing they see as dangerous work where they get hot and sweaty.

You had best get in touch about who it is you think will revolt in backlash because the only thing they reactionary to is work and thinking.

(02-21-2021 04:28 PM)JRsec Wrote:  And you ignored education. If you don't change that you never win again. There should never have been a backlash against all of the common sense trade moves and business moves that Trump made. But we didn't have the elite owned media, we didn't have the young, the WWII generation who had common sense and determination are gone. Boomer's are beginning to go, and if you don't control the young you lose.
So I don't buy your backlash theory at all and see it quite frankly as wishful thinking and lazy as opposed to proactive moves to overcome the socialist programming and virtue signaling of the 30 and under crowd who don't like lives that require work to get stuff. They don't give a damn about common sense as they have none, nor do they think about foreign trade and manufacturing because trade they see as big corporation stuff and manufacturing they see as dangerous work where they get hot and sweaty.
You had best get in touch about who it is you think will revolt in backlash because the only thing they reactionary to is work and thinking.

No, I didn't ignore it at all. I think a big part of the backlash is going to be against the overexpensive, underproductive waste that our education system has become. I see several areas that need to change--the teaching of a socialist/communist/fascist/globalist worldview and the abject failure of our vocational education system being two the worst.

But here's the problem I see. Somebody needs to channel that backlash into useful and helpful changes. Donald Trump ignited a backlash, but republicans either couldn't or wouldn't channel it. Next time around, instead of fighting it, republicans need to embrace and channel it.

(02-21-2021 04:44 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(02-21-2021 04:28 PM)JRsec Wrote:  And you ignored education. If you don't change that you never win again. There should never have been a backlash against all of the common sense trade moves and business moves that Trump made. But we didn't have the elite owned media, we didn't have the young, the WWII generation who had common sense and determination are gone. Boomer's are beginning to go, and if you don't control the young you lose.
So I don't buy your backlash theory at all and see it quite frankly as wishful thinking and lazy as opposed to proactive moves to overcome the socialist programming and virtue signaling of the 30 and under crowd who don't like lives that require work to get stuff. They don't give a damn about common sense as they have none, nor do they think about foreign trade and manufacturing because trade they see as big corporation stuff and manufacturing they see as dangerous work where they get hot and sweaty.
You had best get in touch about who it is you think will revolt in backlash because the only thing they reactionary to is work and thinking.

No, I didn't ignore it at all. I think a big part of the backlash is going to be against the overexpensive, underproductive waste that our education system has become. I see several areas that need to change--the teaching of a socialist/communist/fascist/globalist worldview and the abject failure of our vocational education system being two the worst.

But here's the problem I see. Somebody needs to channel that backlash into useful and helpful changes. Donald Trump ignited a backlash, but republicans either couldn't or wouldn't channel it. Next time around, instead of fighting it, republicans need to embrace and channel it.

Owl as long as Corporate Globalist Elite PAC money goes to both parties the Republicans will be a house divided and there is no way they take the momentum and do something constructive. The forces that Trump unleashed were checked from the beginning by those paid for by that money on both sides of the aisle.

Education is reform #1.

Elimination of PAC money is reform #2.

Accomplish those and the nation we grew up in returns whether it is Democrat or Republican. Right now neither side of the aisle works for the people. And as long as Congress is under corporate control so too is the Military and Intelligence services where the leadership is appointed by Congress. Right now with the Media so skewed the People aren't represented at all, other than the tokenism of wokeism.

(02-21-2021 04:49 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Owl as long as Corporate Globalist Elite PAC money goes to both parties the Republicans will be a house divided and there is no way they take the momentum and do something constructive. The forces that Trump unleashed were checked from the beginning by those paid for by that money on both sides of the aisle.
Education is reform #1.
Elimination of PAC money is reform #2.
Accomplish those and the nation we grew up in returns whether it is Democrat or Republican. Right now neither side of the aisle works for the people. And as long as Congress is under corporate control so too is the Military and Intelligence services where the leadership is appointed by Congress. Right now with the Media so skewed the People aren't represented at all, other than the tokenism of wokeism.

Don't disagree. Except I don't see any way it happens under democrats. And frankly very little way under republicans as now constituted.

Only way I see it happening is an economic collapse that turns the middle class against the elites that perpetrated it. Fortunately or unfortunately, I could see that happening in the next 2-3 years.

(02-21-2021 05:10 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(02-21-2021 04:49 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Owl as long as Corporate Globalist Elite PAC money goes to both parties the Republicans will be a house divided and there is no way they take the momentum and do something constructive. The forces that Trump unleashed were checked from the beginning by those paid for by that money on both sides of the aisle.
Education is reform #1.
Elimination of PAC money is reform #2.
Accomplish those and the nation we grew up in returns whether it is Democrat or Republican. Right now neither side of the aisle works for the people. And as long as Congress is under corporate control so too is the Military and Intelligence services where the leadership is appointed by Congress. Right now with the Media so skewed the People aren't represented at all, other than the tokenism of wokeism.

Don't disagree. Except I don't see any way it happens under democrats. And frankly very little way under republicans as now constituted.

Only way I see it happening is an economic collapse that turns the middle class against the elites that perpetrated it. Fortunately or unfortunately, I could see that happening in the next 2-3 years.

Owl commodities inflation is running 20%. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see a 30% correction in stocks by the end of the year with another 15% in commodities inflation. I think your time span may be a tad generous. What it will take to repeal PAC money is a grass roots amendment movement. But things as they are presently comported is very much like a fascist coup.

(02-21-2021 04:49 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(02-21-2021 04:44 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(02-21-2021 04:28 PM)JRsec Wrote:  And you ignored education. If you don't change that you never win again. There should never have been a backlash against all of the common sense trade moves and business moves that Trump made. But we didn't have the elite owned media, we didn't have the young, the WWII generation who had common sense and determination are gone. Boomer's are beginning to go, and if you don't control the young you lose.
So I don't buy your backlash theory at all and see it quite frankly as wishful thinking and lazy as opposed to proactive moves to overcome the socialist programming and virtue signaling of the 30 and under crowd who don't like lives that require work to get stuff. They don't give a damn about common sense as they have none, nor do they think about foreign trade and manufacturing because trade they see as big corporation stuff and manufacturing they see as dangerous work where they get hot and sweaty.
You had best get in touch about who it is you think will revolt in backlash because the only thing they reactionary to is work and thinking.

No, I didn't ignore it at all. I think a big part of the backlash is going to be against the overexpensive, underproductive waste that our education system has become. I see several areas that need to change--the teaching of a socialist/communist/fascist/globalist worldview and the abject failure of our vocational education system being two the worst.

But here's the problem I see. Somebody needs to channel that backlash into useful and helpful changes. Donald Trump ignited a backlash, but republicans either couldn't or wouldn't channel it. Next time around, instead of fighting it, republicans need to embrace and channel it.

Owl as long as Corporate Globalist Elite PAC money goes to both parties the Republicans will be a house divided and there is no way they take the momentum and do something constructive. The forces that Trump unleashed were checked from the beginning by those paid for by that money on both sides of the aisle.

Education is reform #1.

Elimination of PAC money is reform #2.

Accomplish those and the nation we grew up in returns whether it is Democrat or Republican. Right now neither side of the aisle works for the people. And as long as Congress is under corporate control so too is the Military and Intelligence services where the leadership is appointed by Congress. Right now with the Media so skewed the People aren't represented at all, other than the tokenism of wokeism.

Somehow we need to defeat the teachers unions and fund private education. But I don't see that happening under the Democrats who are beholden to the teachers unions.

(02-21-2021 03:09 PM)JRsec Wrote:  [quote='Owl 69/70/75' pid='17284533' dateline='1613937088']
[quote='JRsec' pid='17284430' dateline='1613935120']


Owl I think you are a dreamer. You leave out the single most important ingredient for a comeback of American industry and exceptionalism. None of it has a chance in hell unless we take back the classrooms. The Ivory Tower elites dominate the young because they have been programmed not to think, but to receive approval. There is no blue collar coalition until the blue collar is trained to think for themselves and that is not what the schools are producing. They have handicapped the kids where it comes to critical thought, analysis, and basic math and science skills. 3 generations preconditioned to recognition answers but without the ability to explain why an answer is correct, let alone why it is important is why we have fallen behind.

You can't bake even the simplest of cakes successfully without good ingredients and you can't build a solid house upon a poor foundation. So your assumption that we need a president who will return blue collar jobs just got proven to be a fallacy. Trump was a blue collar as you will get and the workers turned out in record numbers for him and he was defeated by the 18 to 30 vote who crawled out of momma's basement to vote for Biden at the urging of the Ivory tower crowd, which the only thing elite about them would be their egos and he lengths they will go to remain powerful.

So if this is your conclusion the you are way out of touch with reality. If you want to win you have to take back the curriculum and classrooms from the Left. Then you erode the base that is replacing the Boomers and keep the balance of power with the middle class. This coalition you speak of would be favored if that happens because Hispanics will trend more conservative than reactionary.

And I don't think it is too late to build a coalition with Russia. Putin knows how xenophobic the Chinese really are and he can't be as comfortable empowering them as he would be sharing with us.

While I see a lot of people like you describe, that's not what I see in the way my children were educated. Now neither were in regular public schools since elementary, but even there, they were taught critical thinking skills. I don't understand the people in their 20s who can't think. Did they lose the ability in college? Or did their parents teach them that way?

Sure there's a lot of propaganda in education, especially history, but they aren't taught not to think.

(02-21-2021 11:37 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(02-21-2021 03:09 PM)JRsec Wrote:  [quote='Owl 69/70/75' pid='17284533' dateline='1613937088']
[quote='JRsec' pid='17284430' dateline='1613935120']


Owl I think you are a dreamer. You leave out the single most important ingredient for a comeback of American industry and exceptionalism. None of it has a chance in hell unless we take back the classrooms. The Ivory Tower elites dominate the young because they have been programmed not to think, but to receive approval. There is no blue collar coalition until the blue collar is trained to think for themselves and that is not what the schools are producing. They have handicapped the kids where it comes to critical thought, analysis, and basic math and science skills. 3 generations preconditioned to recognition answers but without the ability to explain why an answer is correct, let alone why it is important is why we have fallen behind.

You can't bake even the simplest of cakes successfully without good ingredients and you can't build a solid house upon a poor foundation. So your assumption that we need a president who will return blue collar jobs just got proven to be a fallacy. Trump was a blue collar as you will get and the workers turned out in record numbers for him and he was defeated by the 18 to 30 vote who crawled out of momma's basement to vote for Biden at the urging of the Ivory tower crowd, which the only thing elite about them would be their egos and he lengths they will go to remain powerful.

So if this is your conclusion the you are way out of touch with reality. If you want to win you have to take back the curriculum and classrooms from the Left. Then you erode the base that is replacing the Boomers and keep the balance of power with the middle class. This coalition you speak of would be favored if that happens because Hispanics will trend more conservative than reactionary.

And I don't think it is too late to build a coalition with Russia. Putin knows how xenophobic the Chinese really are and he can't be as comfortable empowering them as he would be sharing with us.

While I see a lot of people like you describe, that's not what I see in the way my children were educated. Now neither were in regular public schools since elementary, but even there, they were taught critical thinking skills. I don't understand the people in their 20s who can't think. Did they lose the ability in college? Or did their parents teach them that way?

Sure there's a lot of propaganda in education, especially history, but they aren't taught not to think.

Sure they have Bullet. When you quit teaching logic, when you start prepping student for recognition tests rather than making them show their grasp of why the answer is correct through essay explanation. When you quit asking them to analyze information and look for a few stated facts instead, and when they don't have to show their work on math tests, or chemistry equations because they use a hand held device instead of understanding the process and theories, you aren't teaching them to think. This started in the 80's in some school districts and is now widespread. Syllogisms are a thing of the past. All of these call not only for arriving at a correct answer but understanding the process and theories behind the process. Essay exams call for the collective analysis of information and the summation of your analysis in a clear and orderly fashion. All of those things teach you think.

And none of those is common in the high school class room anymore. If kids get these skills they get them in private or parochial schools as mine did. For 20 years I had weekly exposure to the product of public education and I watched this deterioration first hand. It was disgusting.

If you children have managed to pick up these skills it's probably due to a good private education and two parents who were involved.

The past 30 years has seen a fairly rapid decline in math and verbal skills. But of course standardized tests have been changed to cover the deficits. True / False and Multiple Choice tests account for the vast majority of tests given even in college work and I am sad to say in way to much graduate work that isn't research oriented.

So I'm not backing off my claims an Iota's worth. They can't read well, certainly are no longer taught to read cursive or write it, they can't spell thanks to spell check and texting, and they can't think out complex problems when given the variables.

I is what it is. It's why I give my grandchildren problem solving games and teach them to play chess.

(02-21-2021 12:35 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(02-21-2021 12:30 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(02-21-2021 11:27 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  This is scary crap. We have a demented puppet in the highest office in the land. It's not as if most of us didn't already know it but the real question is exactly who is it, who's pulling the strings? Even armed with that knowledge what could be done to stop them? Imagine the power and resources they have...

We survived the mentally competent, although moronic, prog filth deep state POS Obama.

We will survive the Dementia King.

+2.

while I do not disagree, what happens when policy overwhelms when the numbers cannot support that stank puss-n-boots..

shite like this is why HR was the afterbirth of muh econ pr0n(g)(fs) back in the 80's...

(02-22-2021 12:13 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(02-21-2021 11:37 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(02-21-2021 03:09 PM)JRsec Wrote:  [quote='Owl 69/70/75' pid='17284533' dateline='1613937088']
[quote='JRsec' pid='17284430' dateline='1613935120']


Owl I think you are a dreamer. You leave out the single most important ingredient for a comeback of American industry and exceptionalism. None of it has a chance in hell unless we take back the classrooms. The Ivory Tower elites dominate the young because they have been programmed not to think, but to receive approval. There is no blue collar coalition until the blue collar is trained to think for themselves and that is not what the schools are producing. They have handicapped the kids where it comes to critical thought, analysis, and basic math and science skills. 3 generations preconditioned to recognition answers but without the ability to explain why an answer is correct, let alone why it is important is why we have fallen behind.

You can't bake even the simplest of cakes successfully without good ingredients and you can't build a solid house upon a poor foundation. So your assumption that we need a president who will return blue collar jobs just got proven to be a fallacy. Trump was a blue collar as you will get and the workers turned out in record numbers for him and he was defeated by the 18 to 30 vote who crawled out of momma's basement to vote for Biden at the urging of the Ivory tower crowd, which the only thing elite about them would be their egos and he lengths they will go to remain powerful.

So if this is your conclusion the you are way out of touch with reality. If you want to win you have to take back the curriculum and classrooms from the Left. Then you erode the base that is replacing the Boomers and keep the balance of power with the middle class. This coalition you speak of would be favored if that happens because Hispanics will trend more conservative than reactionary.

And I don't think it is too late to build a coalition with Russia. Putin knows how xenophobic the Chinese really are and he can't be as comfortable empowering them as he would be sharing with us.

While I see a lot of people like you describe, that's not what I see in the way my children were educated. Now neither were in regular public schools since elementary, but even there, they were taught critical thinking skills. I don't understand the people in their 20s who can't think. Did they lose the ability in college? Or did their parents teach them that way?

Sure there's a lot of propaganda in education, especially history, but they aren't taught not to think.

Sure they have Bullet. When you quit teaching logic, when you start prepping student for recognition tests rather than making them show their grasp of why the answer is correct through essay explanation. When you quit asking them to analyze information and look for a few stated facts instead, and when they don't have to show their work on math tests, or chemistry equations because they use a hand held device instead of understanding the process and theories, you aren't teaching them to think. This started in the 80's in some school districts and is now widespread. Syllogisms are a thing of the past. All of these call not only for arriving at a correct answer but understanding the process and theories behind the process. Essay exams call for the collective analysis of information and the summation of your analysis in a clear and orderly fashion. All of those things teach you think.

And none of those is common in the high school class room anymore. If kids get these skills they get them in private or parochial schools as mine did. For 20 years I had weekly exposure to the product of public education and I watched this deterioration first hand. It was disgusting.

If you children have managed to pick up these skills it's probably due to a good private education and two parents who were involved.

The past 30 years has seen a fairly rapid decline in math and verbal skills. But of course standardized tests have been changed to cover the deficits. True / False and Multiple Choice tests account for the vast majority of tests given even in college work and I am sad to say in way to much graduate work that isn't research oriented.

So I'm not backing off my claims an Iota's worth. They can't read well, certainly are no longer taught to read cursive or write it, they can't spell thanks to spell check and texting, and they can't think out complex problems when given the variables.

I is what it is. It's why I give my grandchildren problem solving games and teach them to play chess.

there are some posts ya cannot get past playing from the ches(t)s...

#asAlwaysGrandmaster

@kudos

(02-21-2021 05:42 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(02-21-2021 05:10 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(02-21-2021 04:49 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Owl as long as Corporate Globalist Elite PAC money goes to both parties the Republicans will be a house divided and there is no way they take the momentum and do something constructive. The forces that Trump unleashed were checked from the beginning by those paid for by that money on both sides of the aisle.
Education is reform #1.
Elimination of PAC money is reform #2.
Accomplish those and the nation we grew up in returns whether it is Democrat or Republican. Right now neither side of the aisle works for the people. And as long as Congress is under corporate control so too is the Military and Intelligence services where the leadership is appointed by Congress. Right now with the Media so skewed the People aren't represented at all, other than the tokenism of wokeism.

Don't disagree. Except I don't see any way it happens under democrats. And frankly very little way under republicans as now constituted.

Only way I see it happening is an economic collapse that turns the middle class against the elites that perpetrated it. Fortunately or unfortunately, I could see that happening in the next 2-3 years.

Owl commodities inflation is running 20%. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see a 30% correction in stocks by the end of the year with another 15% in commodities inflation. I think your time span may be a tad generous. What it will take to repeal PAC money is a grass roots amendment movement. But things as they are presently comported is very much like a fascist coup.

if you're not long in commodities to date, well, you simply don't get it...

at least he's mostly in cash as a 'hold on'....

it's an oxymoron, but you guy have to die first...