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(07-27-2021 01:59 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(07-27-2021 01:50 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  Twitter suspends other audit accounts. PA., NV., GA., WI.

This is some Big Time BS here.

How so?

I read some speculation that many of these accounts were setup by the same person or people, which twitter frowns upon if you post duplicative or similar content. So if one broke the rules...they'd can them all.

Again, just a guess.

It's amazing to what lengths you will go to. Run cover for the corruption that even as feeble minded as you are you know by now what went on in this election. Its obvious to anyone who reads your post that you have performed well as both a compulsive liar as well as a pathological liar.
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"Weird how all these election audit accounts are getting suspended on the same day as House Democrats begin their Jan. 6th Show Trial." 07-coffee3
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(07-27-2021 03:03 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  "Weird how all these election audit accounts are getting suspended on the same day as House Democrats begin their Jan. 6th Show Trial." 07-coffee3

It won’t make all the evidence disappear.
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(07-27-2021 02:35 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  https://ktar.com/story/4592513/shut-out-...nsparency/

Quote:PHOENIX – Arizona Senate liaison Ken Bennett said Monday that he’s being shut out of the Cyber Ninjas-led audit of the 2020 Maricopa County election, and he raised concerns about the contractors’ lack of transparency.

Bennett has been the audit’s most prominent public face since it started April 23, but his future as the Senate’s representative is in doubt with a final report expected in the next month.


“I can only be a part of moving forward and vouching for the final product if … there is transparency in seeing the procedures and things that are going to be used to build that final product,” he told KTAR News 92.3 FM’s The Mike Broomhead Show.

The former Arizona secretary of state has been providing regular media updates as a spokesman for the Senate Republicans who hired Cyber Ninjas and other contractors to recount approximately 2.1 million ballots and inspect voting equipment from the November general election in metro Phoenix.

He said co-liaison Randy Pullen had already taken the lead during the new count, which Bennett thought an independent group should conduct after the Cyber Ninjas’ tally didn’t match the total documented by Maricopa County.

Pullen confirmed to KTAR News 92.3 FM on Monday that Bennett no longer has access to the Wesley Bolin Building at the fairgrounds, where the last recount is happening, but he’s still the audit liaison.


The auditors have refused to reveal their procedures for the latest count, Bennett said, leaving him “very concerned” they would “force balance” in the direction of their earlier findings.

Because of his concerns, he consulted with an outside group that has been researching the election independently of the audit and had offered assistance.

“Indirectly, I allowed some information that was supposed to be private to get out,” Bennett said. “He leaked it to the press, and I felt bad about that. Obviously Mr. Pullen and maybe the Senate and others were upset. And so that’s why I was denied access.”

Bennett said it’s not the first time the Cyber Ninjas have withheld procedural information from him, but he hopes things can be worked out so he can continue as liaison until the end of the process.

“I just cannot function as the liaison with those kinds of hide-the-ball-from-me stuff,” he said. “But I’m working with (Senate) President (Karen) Fann, and if we can get those kinds of things worked out, I want to see this audit through to success.

“And success to me is the facts. Election integrity is not about whether or not Donald Trump won an election. Election integrity is about, did we get the election right? And that’s what I’m focused on.”

The linked article has so many holes in it.

I don't see where it mentioned Bennett violating the NDA. That may have something to do with supposed lack of transparency.

I doubt they're hiding their procedures given that the court ruled they had to make their procedures public. I would think if they are withholding additional procedures there would be a lawsuit filed.

As to whether or not the final reconciliatory count should be performed by a 3rd party, Cyber Ninjas is the 3rd party. At least, that's what they've been called by the MCBOS.

Again, we'll see. But using someone who violated their NDA as a source doesn't seem to be the best basis for a story. That is, unless you're trying to cast doubt on the entire forensic audit process and its results.

But why would the MCBOS and leftist media try to do that? I mean, if they are it's not working.

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RE: Election Update from Arizona
(07-27-2021 03:11 PM)Halfcourt Wrote:  
(07-27-2021 03:03 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  "Weird how all these election audit accounts are getting suspended on the same day as House Democrats begin their Jan. 6th Show Trial." 07-coffee3

It won’t make all the evidence disappear.

That's very true, what gets me, is this happened before or right after the Election. A lot of accounts on tweeter were caned.
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LAA Voter Integrity Project: 157,299 Illegal Ballots Cast in Wisconsin Presidential Election

Biden - 1,630,866
Trump - 1,610,184
Margin - 20,682

Quote:Look Ahead America’s Executive Director Matt Braynard has announced that they have discovered at least 157,299 illegal ballots cast in the Wisconsin presidential election.

That's 7.6 times as many potentially illegal ballots vs margin of victory.
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(07-27-2021 03:39 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  LAA Voter Integrity Project: 157,299 Illegal Ballots Cast in Wisconsin Presidential Election

Biden - 1,630,866
Trump - 1,610,184
Margin - 20,682

Quote:Look Ahead America’s Executive Director Matt Braynard has announced that they have discovered at least 157,299 illegal ballots cast in the Wisconsin presidential election.

That's 7.6 times as many potentially illegal ballots vs margin of victory.

The thing about all of this is. You will never hear the Main News Groups talk about this. And this is also the reason tweeter is doing what it is doing. I'm tired of this Sht
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RE: Election Update from Arizona
(07-27-2021 03:52 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  
(07-27-2021 03:39 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  LAA Voter Integrity Project: 157,299 Illegal Ballots Cast in Wisconsin Presidential Election

Biden - 1,630,866
Trump - 1,610,184
Margin - 20,682

Quote:Look Ahead America’s Executive Director Matt Braynard has announced that they have discovered at least 157,299 illegal ballots cast in the Wisconsin presidential election.

That's 7.6 times as many potentially illegal ballots vs margin of victory.

The thing about all of this is. You will never hear the Main News Groups talk about this. And this is also the reason tweeter is doing what it is doing. I'm tired of this Sht

I hear ya. But regardless of the media and politicians spouting out their lies, there's a grassroots movement sweeping the country that won't be denied. It's organized at the national and state levels. Every state is represented and every state is in the process of capturing election data from every county.

National members - 25,899
TN members - 1,973

Sampling of other states...

California - 6,258
Georgia - 8,716
Michigan - 4,264
New York - 2,826
Pennsylvania - 3,403
Wisconsin - 5,141
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RE: Election Update from Arizona
(07-27-2021 03:29 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  
(07-27-2021 02:35 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  https://ktar.com/story/4592513/shut-out-...nsparency/

Quote:PHOENIX – Arizona Senate liaison Ken Bennett said Monday that he’s being shut out of the Cyber Ninjas-led audit of the 2020 Maricopa County election, and he raised concerns about the contractors’ lack of transparency.

Bennett has been the audit’s most prominent public face since it started April 23, but his future as the Senate’s representative is in doubt with a final report expected in the next month.


“I can only be a part of moving forward and vouching for the final product if … there is transparency in seeing the procedures and things that are going to be used to build that final product,” he told KTAR News 92.3 FM’s The Mike Broomhead Show.

The former Arizona secretary of state has been providing regular media updates as a spokesman for the Senate Republicans who hired Cyber Ninjas and other contractors to recount approximately 2.1 million ballots and inspect voting equipment from the November general election in metro Phoenix.

He said co-liaison Randy Pullen had already taken the lead during the new count, which Bennett thought an independent group should conduct after the Cyber Ninjas’ tally didn’t match the total documented by Maricopa County.

Pullen confirmed to KTAR News 92.3 FM on Monday that Bennett no longer has access to the Wesley Bolin Building at the fairgrounds, where the last recount is happening, but he’s still the audit liaison.


The auditors have refused to reveal their procedures for the latest count, Bennett said, leaving him “very concerned” they would “force balance” in the direction of their earlier findings.

Because of his concerns, he consulted with an outside group that has been researching the election independently of the audit and had offered assistance.

“Indirectly, I allowed some information that was supposed to be private to get out,” Bennett said. “He leaked it to the press, and I felt bad about that. Obviously Mr. Pullen and maybe the Senate and others were upset. And so that’s why I was denied access.”

Bennett said it’s not the first time the Cyber Ninjas have withheld procedural information from him, but he hopes things can be worked out so he can continue as liaison until the end of the process.

“I just cannot function as the liaison with those kinds of hide-the-ball-from-me stuff,” he said. “But I’m working with (Senate) President (Karen) Fann, and if we can get those kinds of things worked out, I want to see this audit through to success.

“And success to me is the facts. Election integrity is not about whether or not Donald Trump won an election. Election integrity is about, did we get the election right? And that’s what I’m focused on.”

The linked article has so many holes in it.

I don't see where it mentioned Bennett violating the NDA. That may have something to do with supposed lack of transparency.

I doubt they're hiding their procedures given that the court ruled they had to make their procedures public. I would think if they are withholding additional procedures there would be a lawsuit filed.

As to whether or not the final reconciliatory count should be performed by a 3rd party, Cyber Ninjas is the 3rd party. At least, that's what they've been called by the MCBOS.

Again, we'll see. But using someone who violated their NDA as a source doesn't seem to be the best basis for a story. That is, unless you're trying to cast doubt on the entire forensic audit process and its results.

But why would the MCBOS and leftist media try to do that? I mean, if they are it's not working.

A.U.D.I.T. of Elections: Grassroots Pressure Begins to Pay Off




If they weren't hiding their procedures the court wouldn't have to tell them to make them public.

You guys said this audit was more transparent than the election count, but the election count had observers from both parties and no NDAs.

Why would you need an NDA when performing a service for the state government if you have nothing to hide about your "audit".
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(07-27-2021 02:43 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  
(07-25-2021 12:56 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  I thought this audit was supposed to be clear and transparent? They just banned Ken Bennet, the senate liaison and audit director, from the audit.

https://www.newsweek.com/arizona-gop-aud...ss-1612791

I wonder if they didn’t find anything and wanted time to cook the books and Bennett started talking early. Or they just want to drag this out as long as possible, since the audit itself helps further their goals more than any results that can be responded to by the county.

The only thing cooked is your brain from years of inhaling the propaganda. Your a pathetic lackey that has no clue even if the evidence was handed to you on silver platter. No one is blinder than he who won't see.

You're, not your.

You don't know the difference between your and you're, apparently if you want to see a cooked brain you don't have to look further than the mirror.
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RE: Election Update from Arizona
(07-27-2021 05:46 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  
(07-27-2021 02:43 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  
(07-25-2021 12:56 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  I thought this audit was supposed to be clear and transparent? They just banned Ken Bennet, the senate liaison and audit director, from the audit.

https://www.newsweek.com/arizona-gop-aud...ss-1612791

I wonder if they didn’t find anything and wanted time to cook the books and Bennett started talking early. Or they just want to drag this out as long as possible, since the audit itself helps further their goals more than any results that can be responded to by the county.

The only thing cooked is your brain from years of inhaling the propaganda. Your a pathetic lackey that has no clue even if the evidence was handed to you on silver platter. No one is blinder than he who won't see.

You're, not your.

You don't know the difference between your and you're, apparently if you want to see a cooked brain you don't have to look further than the mirror.

EVERYBODY RUN!!!! IT'S THE GRAMMAR POLICE!!! SHE GONE GIVE US ALL A D.
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(07-27-2021 05:39 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  
(07-27-2021 03:29 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  
(07-27-2021 02:35 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  https://ktar.com/story/4592513/shut-out-...nsparency/

Quote:PHOENIX – Arizona Senate liaison Ken Bennett said Monday that he’s being shut out of the Cyber Ninjas-led audit of the 2020 Maricopa County election, and he raised concerns about the contractors’ lack of transparency.

Bennett has been the audit’s most prominent public face since it started April 23, but his future as the Senate’s representative is in doubt with a final report expected in the next month.


“I can only be a part of moving forward and vouching for the final product if … there is transparency in seeing the procedures and things that are going to be used to build that final product,” he told KTAR News 92.3 FM’s The Mike Broomhead Show.

The former Arizona secretary of state has been providing regular media updates as a spokesman for the Senate Republicans who hired Cyber Ninjas and other contractors to recount approximately 2.1 million ballots and inspect voting equipment from the November general election in metro Phoenix.

He said co-liaison Randy Pullen had already taken the lead during the new count, which Bennett thought an independent group should conduct after the Cyber Ninjas’ tally didn’t match the total documented by Maricopa County.

Pullen confirmed to KTAR News 92.3 FM on Monday that Bennett no longer has access to the Wesley Bolin Building at the fairgrounds, where the last recount is happening, but he’s still the audit liaison.


The auditors have refused to reveal their procedures for the latest count, Bennett said, leaving him “very concerned” they would “force balance” in the direction of their earlier findings.

Because of his concerns, he consulted with an outside group that has been researching the election independently of the audit and had offered assistance.

“Indirectly, I allowed some information that was supposed to be private to get out,” Bennett said. “He leaked it to the press, and I felt bad about that. Obviously Mr. Pullen and maybe the Senate and others were upset. And so that’s why I was denied access.”

Bennett said it’s not the first time the Cyber Ninjas have withheld procedural information from him, but he hopes things can be worked out so he can continue as liaison until the end of the process.

“I just cannot function as the liaison with those kinds of hide-the-ball-from-me stuff,” he said. “But I’m working with (Senate) President (Karen) Fann, and if we can get those kinds of things worked out, I want to see this audit through to success.

“And success to me is the facts. Election integrity is not about whether or not Donald Trump won an election. Election integrity is about, did we get the election right? And that’s what I’m focused on.”

The linked article has so many holes in it.

I don't see where it mentioned Bennett violating the NDA. That may have something to do with supposed lack of transparency.

I doubt they're hiding their procedures given that the court ruled they had to make their procedures public. I would think if they are withholding additional procedures there would be a lawsuit filed.

As to whether or not the final reconciliatory count should be performed by a 3rd party, Cyber Ninjas is the 3rd party. At least, that's what they've been called by the MCBOS.

Again, we'll see. But using someone who violated their NDA as a source doesn't seem to be the best basis for a story. That is, unless you're trying to cast doubt on the entire forensic audit process and its results.

But why would the MCBOS and leftist media try to do that? I mean, if they are it's not working.

A.U.D.I.T. of Elections: Grassroots Pressure Begins to Pay Off




If they weren't hiding their procedures the court wouldn't have to tell them to make them public.

You guys said this audit was more transparent than the election count, but the election count had observers from both parties and no NDAs.

Why would you need an NDA when performing a service for the state government if you have nothing to hide about your "audit".

Elvis this might help you understand about the NDA.

It is irresponsible to disclose partial information to the media since they are not “confirmed” facts until the audit is final. This only leads to confusion and misinformation with the public. For that reason, it is imperative anyone working with the audit is required to adhere to the rules of not disclosing unconfirmed information.

And here's the rest of it. It came out this afternoon.
https://www.azsenaterepublicans.com/post...ren-fann-1
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(07-27-2021 06:25 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  
(07-27-2021 05:39 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  
(07-27-2021 03:29 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  
(07-27-2021 02:35 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  https://ktar.com/story/4592513/shut-out-...nsparency/

Quote:PHOENIX – Arizona Senate liaison Ken Bennett said Monday that he’s being shut out of the Cyber Ninjas-led audit of the 2020 Maricopa County election, and he raised concerns about the contractors’ lack of transparency.

Bennett has been the audit’s most prominent public face since it started April 23, but his future as the Senate’s representative is in doubt with a final report expected in the next month.


“I can only be a part of moving forward and vouching for the final product if … there is transparency in seeing the procedures and things that are going to be used to build that final product,” he told KTAR News 92.3 FM’s The Mike Broomhead Show.

The former Arizona secretary of state has been providing regular media updates as a spokesman for the Senate Republicans who hired Cyber Ninjas and other contractors to recount approximately 2.1 million ballots and inspect voting equipment from the November general election in metro Phoenix.

He said co-liaison Randy Pullen had already taken the lead during the new count, which Bennett thought an independent group should conduct after the Cyber Ninjas’ tally didn’t match the total documented by Maricopa County.

Pullen confirmed to KTAR News 92.3 FM on Monday that Bennett no longer has access to the Wesley Bolin Building at the fairgrounds, where the last recount is happening, but he’s still the audit liaison.


The auditors have refused to reveal their procedures for the latest count, Bennett said, leaving him “very concerned” they would “force balance” in the direction of their earlier findings.

Because of his concerns, he consulted with an outside group that has been researching the election independently of the audit and had offered assistance.

“Indirectly, I allowed some information that was supposed to be private to get out,” Bennett said. “He leaked it to the press, and I felt bad about that. Obviously Mr. Pullen and maybe the Senate and others were upset. And so that’s why I was denied access.”

Bennett said it’s not the first time the Cyber Ninjas have withheld procedural information from him, but he hopes things can be worked out so he can continue as liaison until the end of the process.

“I just cannot function as the liaison with those kinds of hide-the-ball-from-me stuff,” he said. “But I’m working with (Senate) President (Karen) Fann, and if we can get those kinds of things worked out, I want to see this audit through to success.

“And success to me is the facts. Election integrity is not about whether or not Donald Trump won an election. Election integrity is about, did we get the election right? And that’s what I’m focused on.”

The linked article has so many holes in it.

I don't see where it mentioned Bennett violating the NDA. That may have something to do with supposed lack of transparency.

I doubt they're hiding their procedures given that the court ruled they had to make their procedures public. I would think if they are withholding additional procedures there would be a lawsuit filed.

As to whether or not the final reconciliatory count should be performed by a 3rd party, Cyber Ninjas is the 3rd party. At least, that's what they've been called by the MCBOS.

Again, we'll see. But using someone who violated their NDA as a source doesn't seem to be the best basis for a story. That is, unless you're trying to cast doubt on the entire forensic audit process and its results.

But why would the MCBOS and leftist media try to do that? I mean, if they are it's not working.

A.U.D.I.T. of Elections: Grassroots Pressure Begins to Pay Off




If they weren't hiding their procedures the court wouldn't have to tell them to make them public.

You guys said this audit was more transparent than the election count, but the election count had observers from both parties and no NDAs.

Why would you need an NDA when performing a service for the state government if you have nothing to hide about your "audit".

Elvis this might help you understand about the NDA.

It is irresponsible to disclose partial information to the media since they are not “confirmed” facts until the audit is final. This only leads to confusion and misinformation with the public. For that reason, it is imperative anyone working with the audit is required to adhere to the rules of not disclosing unconfirmed information.

And here's the rest of it. It came out this afternoon.
https://www.azsenaterepublicans.com/post...ren-fann-1

I do agree that partial information is misinformation, which is all that has come out of the audit team. 74k mail in votes with no record of being mailed turned out to be BS.

So the audit only wants their misinformation released, but they don’t actually want transparency (which is why there was a lawsuit over revealing methods in the first place).

The end goal of this audit has nothing to do with the truth, it is political posturing to get election laws passed that the republicans think will benefit them more than the democrats.
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RE: Election Update from Arizona
(07-27-2021 06:50 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  
(07-27-2021 06:25 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  
(07-27-2021 05:39 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  
(07-27-2021 03:29 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  
(07-27-2021 02:35 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  https://ktar.com/story/4592513/shut-out-...nsparency/

The linked article has so many holes in it.

I don't see where it mentioned Bennett violating the NDA. That may have something to do with supposed lack of transparency.

I doubt they're hiding their procedures given that the court ruled they had to make their procedures public. I would think if they are withholding additional procedures there would be a lawsuit filed.

As to whether or not the final reconciliatory count should be performed by a 3rd party, Cyber Ninjas is the 3rd party. At least, that's what they've been called by the MCBOS.

Again, we'll see. But using someone who violated their NDA as a source doesn't seem to be the best basis for a story. That is, unless you're trying to cast doubt on the entire forensic audit process and its results.

But why would the MCBOS and leftist media try to do that? I mean, if they are it's not working.

A.U.D.I.T. of Elections: Grassroots Pressure Begins to Pay Off




If they weren't hiding their procedures the court wouldn't have to tell them to make them public.

You guys said this audit was more transparent than the election count, but the election count had observers from both parties and no NDAs.

Why would you need an NDA when performing a service for the state government if you have nothing to hide about your "audit".

Elvis this might help you understand about the NDA.

It is irresponsible to disclose partial information to the media since they are not “confirmed” facts until the audit is final. This only leads to confusion and misinformation with the public. For that reason, it is imperative anyone working with the audit is required to adhere to the rules of not disclosing unconfirmed information.

And here's the rest of it. It came out this afternoon.
https://www.azsenaterepublicans.com/post...ren-fann-1

I do agree that partial information is misinformation, which is all that has come out of the audit team. 74k mail in votes with no record of being mailed turned out to be BS.

So the audit only wants their misinformation released, but they don’t actually want transparency (which is why there was a lawsuit over revealing methods in the first place).

The end goal of this audit has nothing to do with the truth, it is political posturing to get election laws passed that the republicans think will benefit them more than the democrats.

LOL, OK
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RE: Election Update from Arizona
(07-27-2021 06:50 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  
(07-27-2021 06:25 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  
(07-27-2021 05:39 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  
(07-27-2021 03:29 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  
(07-27-2021 02:35 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  https://ktar.com/story/4592513/shut-out-...nsparency/

The linked article has so many holes in it.

I don't see where it mentioned Bennett violating the NDA. That may have something to do with supposed lack of transparency.

I doubt they're hiding their procedures given that the court ruled they had to make their procedures public. I would think if they are withholding additional procedures there would be a lawsuit filed.

As to whether or not the final reconciliatory count should be performed by a 3rd party, Cyber Ninjas is the 3rd party. At least, that's what they've been called by the MCBOS.

Again, we'll see. But using someone who violated their NDA as a source doesn't seem to be the best basis for a story. That is, unless you're trying to cast doubt on the entire forensic audit process and its results.

But why would the MCBOS and leftist media try to do that? I mean, if they are it's not working.

A.U.D.I.T. of Elections: Grassroots Pressure Begins to Pay Off




If they weren't hiding their procedures the court wouldn't have to tell them to make them public.

You guys said this audit was more transparent than the election count, but the election count had observers from both parties and no NDAs.

Why would you need an NDA when performing a service for the state government if you have nothing to hide about your "audit".

Elvis this might help you understand about the NDA.

It is irresponsible to disclose partial information to the media since they are not “confirmed” facts until the audit is final. This only leads to confusion and misinformation with the public. For that reason, it is imperative anyone working with the audit is required to adhere to the rules of not disclosing unconfirmed information.

And here's the rest of it. It came out this afternoon.
https://www.azsenaterepublicans.com/post...ren-fann-1

74k mail in votes with no record of being mailed turned out to be BS.

Nope. 74K mail in votes with no record of being requested is correct. Under the current procedures the county has handed over, this should not be the case. The audit is asking the county to explain and show them in the procedures how this could have occurred. The county is refusing.
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RE: Election Update from Arizona
(07-27-2021 06:55 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  
(07-27-2021 06:50 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  
(07-27-2021 06:25 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  
(07-27-2021 05:39 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  
(07-27-2021 03:29 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  The linked article has so many holes in it.

I don't see where it mentioned Bennett violating the NDA. That may have something to do with supposed lack of transparency.

I doubt they're hiding their procedures given that the court ruled they had to make their procedures public. I would think if they are withholding additional procedures there would be a lawsuit filed.

As to whether or not the final reconciliatory count should be performed by a 3rd party, Cyber Ninjas is the 3rd party. At least, that's what they've been called by the MCBOS.

Again, we'll see. But using someone who violated their NDA as a source doesn't seem to be the best basis for a story. That is, unless you're trying to cast doubt on the entire forensic audit process and its results.

But why would the MCBOS and leftist media try to do that? I mean, if they are it's not working.

A.U.D.I.T. of Elections: Grassroots Pressure Begins to Pay Off




If they weren't hiding their procedures the court wouldn't have to tell them to make them public.

You guys said this audit was more transparent than the election count, but the election count had observers from both parties and no NDAs.

Why would you need an NDA when performing a service for the state government if you have nothing to hide about your "audit".

Elvis this might help you understand about the NDA.

It is irresponsible to disclose partial information to the media since they are not “confirmed” facts until the audit is final. This only leads to confusion and misinformation with the public. For that reason, it is imperative anyone working with the audit is required to adhere to the rules of not disclosing unconfirmed information.

And here's the rest of it. It came out this afternoon.
https://www.azsenaterepublicans.com/post...ren-fann-1

I do agree that partial information is misinformation, which is all that has come out of the audit team. 74k mail in votes with no record of being mailed turned out to be BS.

So the audit only wants their misinformation released, but they don’t actually want transparency (which is why there was a lawsuit over revealing methods in the first place).

The end goal of this audit has nothing to do with the truth, it is political posturing to get election laws passed that the republicans think will benefit them more than the democrats.

LOL, OK

You yourself say it’s irresponsible to disclose partial information when the audit had a press conference to disclose partial information.

So what you are saying is partial information that makes the election look rigged is OK, but other partial information is misleading.
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RE: Election Update from Arizona
(07-27-2021 05:39 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  
(07-27-2021 03:29 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  
(07-27-2021 02:35 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  https://ktar.com/story/4592513/shut-out-...nsparency/

Quote:PHOENIX – Arizona Senate liaison Ken Bennett said Monday that he’s being shut out of the Cyber Ninjas-led audit of the 2020 Maricopa County election, and he raised concerns about the contractors’ lack of transparency.

Bennett has been the audit’s most prominent public face since it started April 23, but his future as the Senate’s representative is in doubt with a final report expected in the next month.


“I can only be a part of moving forward and vouching for the final product if … there is transparency in seeing the procedures and things that are going to be used to build that final product,” he told KTAR News 92.3 FM’s The Mike Broomhead Show.

The former Arizona secretary of state has been providing regular media updates as a spokesman for the Senate Republicans who hired Cyber Ninjas and other contractors to recount approximately 2.1 million ballots and inspect voting equipment from the November general election in metro Phoenix.

He said co-liaison Randy Pullen had already taken the lead during the new count, which Bennett thought an independent group should conduct after the Cyber Ninjas’ tally didn’t match the total documented by Maricopa County.

Pullen confirmed to KTAR News 92.3 FM on Monday that Bennett no longer has access to the Wesley Bolin Building at the fairgrounds, where the last recount is happening, but he’s still the audit liaison.


The auditors have refused to reveal their procedures for the latest count, Bennett said, leaving him “very concerned” they would “force balance” in the direction of their earlier findings.

Because of his concerns, he consulted with an outside group that has been researching the election independently of the audit and had offered assistance.

“Indirectly, I allowed some information that was supposed to be private to get out,” Bennett said. “He leaked it to the press, and I felt bad about that. Obviously Mr. Pullen and maybe the Senate and others were upset. And so that’s why I was denied access.”

Bennett said it’s not the first time the Cyber Ninjas have withheld procedural information from him, but he hopes things can be worked out so he can continue as liaison until the end of the process.

“I just cannot function as the liaison with those kinds of hide-the-ball-from-me stuff,” he said. “But I’m working with (Senate) President (Karen) Fann, and if we can get those kinds of things worked out, I want to see this audit through to success.

“And success to me is the facts. Election integrity is not about whether or not Donald Trump won an election. Election integrity is about, did we get the election right? And that’s what I’m focused on.”

The linked article has so many holes in it.

I don't see where it mentioned Bennett violating the NDA. That may have something to do with supposed lack of transparency.

I doubt they're hiding their procedures given that the court ruled they had to make their procedures public. I would think if they are withholding additional procedures there would be a lawsuit filed.

As to whether or not the final reconciliatory count should be performed by a 3rd party, Cyber Ninjas is the 3rd party. At least, that's what they've been called by the MCBOS.

Again, we'll see. But using someone who violated their NDA as a source doesn't seem to be the best basis for a story. That is, unless you're trying to cast doubt on the entire forensic audit process and its results.

But why would the MCBOS and leftist media try to do that? I mean, if they are it's not working.

A.U.D.I.T. of Elections: Grassroots Pressure Begins to Pay Off




If they weren't hiding their procedures the court wouldn't have to tell them to make them public.

You guys said this audit was more transparent than the election count, but the election count had observers from both parties and no NDAs.

Why would you need an NDA when performing a service for the state government if you have nothing to hide about your "audit".

You weren't watching the same election as the rest of the world.
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RE: Election Update from Arizona
(07-27-2021 08:49 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  
(07-27-2021 05:39 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  
(07-27-2021 03:29 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  
(07-27-2021 02:35 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  https://ktar.com/story/4592513/shut-out-...nsparency/

Quote:PHOENIX – Arizona Senate liaison Ken Bennett said Monday that he’s being shut out of the Cyber Ninjas-led audit of the 2020 Maricopa County election, and he raised concerns about the contractors’ lack of transparency.

Bennett has been the audit’s most prominent public face since it started April 23, but his future as the Senate’s representative is in doubt with a final report expected in the next month.


“I can only be a part of moving forward and vouching for the final product if … there is transparency in seeing the procedures and things that are going to be used to build that final product,” he told KTAR News 92.3 FM’s The Mike Broomhead Show.

The former Arizona secretary of state has been providing regular media updates as a spokesman for the Senate Republicans who hired Cyber Ninjas and other contractors to recount approximately 2.1 million ballots and inspect voting equipment from the November general election in metro Phoenix.

He said co-liaison Randy Pullen had already taken the lead during the new count, which Bennett thought an independent group should conduct after the Cyber Ninjas’ tally didn’t match the total documented by Maricopa County.

Pullen confirmed to KTAR News 92.3 FM on Monday that Bennett no longer has access to the Wesley Bolin Building at the fairgrounds, where the last recount is happening, but he’s still the audit liaison.


The auditors have refused to reveal their procedures for the latest count, Bennett said, leaving him “very concerned” they would “force balance” in the direction of their earlier findings.

Because of his concerns, he consulted with an outside group that has been researching the election independently of the audit and had offered assistance.

“Indirectly, I allowed some information that was supposed to be private to get out,” Bennett said. “He leaked it to the press, and I felt bad about that. Obviously Mr. Pullen and maybe the Senate and others were upset. And so that’s why I was denied access.”

Bennett said it’s not the first time the Cyber Ninjas have withheld procedural information from him, but he hopes things can be worked out so he can continue as liaison until the end of the process.

“I just cannot function as the liaison with those kinds of hide-the-ball-from-me stuff,” he said. “But I’m working with (Senate) President (Karen) Fann, and if we can get those kinds of things worked out, I want to see this audit through to success.

“And success to me is the facts. Election integrity is not about whether or not Donald Trump won an election. Election integrity is about, did we get the election right? And that’s what I’m focused on.”

The linked article has so many holes in it.

I don't see where it mentioned Bennett violating the NDA. That may have something to do with supposed lack of transparency.

I doubt they're hiding their procedures given that the court ruled they had to make their procedures public. I would think if they are withholding additional procedures there would be a lawsuit filed.

As to whether or not the final reconciliatory count should be performed by a 3rd party, Cyber Ninjas is the 3rd party. At least, that's what they've been called by the MCBOS.

Again, we'll see. But using someone who violated their NDA as a source doesn't seem to be the best basis for a story. That is, unless you're trying to cast doubt on the entire forensic audit process and its results.

But why would the MCBOS and leftist media try to do that? I mean, if they are it's not working.

A.U.D.I.T. of Elections: Grassroots Pressure Begins to Pay Off




If they weren't hiding their procedures the court wouldn't have to tell them to make them public.

You guys said this audit was more transparent than the election count, but the election count had observers from both parties and no NDAs.

Why would you need an NDA when performing a service for the state government if you have nothing to hide about your "audit".

You weren't watching the same election as the rest of the world.

No, I just wasn't listening to the Cult45 BS.
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RE: Election Update from Arizona
(07-27-2021 05:46 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  
(07-27-2021 02:43 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  
(07-25-2021 12:56 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  I thought this audit was supposed to be clear and transparent? They just banned Ken Bennet, the senate liaison and audit director, from the audit.

https://www.newsweek.com/arizona-gop-aud...ss-1612791

I wonder if they didn’t find anything and wanted time to cook the books and Bennett started talking early. Or they just want to drag this out as long as possible, since the audit itself helps further their goals more than any results that can be responded to by the county.

The only thing cooked is your brain from years of inhaling the propaganda. Your a pathetic lackey that has no clue even if the evidence was handed to you on silver platter. No one is blinder than he who won't see.

You're, not your.

You don't know the difference between your and you're, apparently if you want to see a cooked brain you don't have to look further than the mirror.

If you're going to be like that, pretty weak if you ask me, then do it right. You failed to point out all the errors, it should read thus: Your You're a pathetic lackey that who has would have no clue even if the evidence was handed to you on a silver platter.
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RE: Election Update from Arizona
(07-27-2021 08:56 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  
(07-27-2021 08:49 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  
(07-27-2021 05:39 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  
(07-27-2021 03:29 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  
(07-27-2021 02:35 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  https://ktar.com/story/4592513/shut-out-...nsparency/

The linked article has so many holes in it.

I don't see where it mentioned Bennett violating the NDA. That may have something to do with supposed lack of transparency.

I doubt they're hiding their procedures given that the court ruled they had to make their procedures public. I would think if they are withholding additional procedures there would be a lawsuit filed.

As to whether or not the final reconciliatory count should be performed by a 3rd party, Cyber Ninjas is the 3rd party. At least, that's what they've been called by the MCBOS.

Again, we'll see. But using someone who violated their NDA as a source doesn't seem to be the best basis for a story. That is, unless you're trying to cast doubt on the entire forensic audit process and its results.

But why would the MCBOS and leftist media try to do that? I mean, if they are it's not working.

A.U.D.I.T. of Elections: Grassroots Pressure Begins to Pay Off




If they weren't hiding their procedures the court wouldn't have to tell them to make them public.

You guys said this audit was more transparent than the election count, but the election count had observers from both parties and no NDAs.

Why would you need an NDA when performing a service for the state government if you have nothing to hide about your "audit".

You weren't watching the same election as the rest of the world.

No, I just wasn't listening to the Cult45 BS.

Keep listening.

And try to figure out what you're gonna do if fraud is real.
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