(01-06-2021 07:31 AM)TheOriginalBigApp Wrote:  look for Raffensberger (sp) to resign within 90 days. No way in hell he runs again.

I won't be surprised if he flips parties and runs as a democrat.

If Trump had accepted defeat gracefully without all the theatrics of the lawsuits and conspiracy theories I think the republicans would have won one of these, possibly both. I prefer one house of Congress to be opposite the president. Then they have to come together for the important stuff but there is a barrier for the frivolous.

He kept the “never trump” political base fully engaged with his attack on the federal election, and his support mentally turned these two races into an extension of the presidential race. Without Trumps election attacks the democrats wouldn’t have had quite the turnout they did.

(01-06-2021 08:14 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  If Trump had accepted defeat gracefully without all the theatrics of the lawsuits and conspiracy theories I think the republicans would have won one of these, possibly both. I prefer one house of Congress to be opposite the president. Then they have to come together for the important stuff but there is a barrier for the frivolous.

He kept the “never trump” political base fully engaged with his attack on the federal election, and his support mentally turned these two races into an extension of the presidential race. Without Trumps election attacks the democrats wouldn’t have had quite the turnout they did.

If Trump would have acquiesced to the left stealing the election via massive election fraud?

(01-06-2021 08:27 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(01-06-2021 08:14 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  If Trump had accepted defeat gracefully without all the theatrics of the lawsuits and conspiracy theories I think the republicans would have won one of these, possibly both. I prefer one house of Congress to be opposite the president. Then they have to come together for the important stuff but there is a barrier for the frivolous.

He kept the “never trump” political base fully engaged with his attack on the federal election, and his support mentally turned these two races into an extension of the presidential race. Without Trumps election attacks the democrats wouldn’t have had quite the turnout they did.

If Trump would have acquiesced to the left stealing the election via massive election fraud?

There was no "massive" fraud. Stop whining.

(01-06-2021 08:29 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(01-06-2021 08:27 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(01-06-2021 08:14 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  If Trump had accepted defeat gracefully without all the theatrics of the lawsuits and conspiracy theories I think the republicans would have won one of these, possibly both. I prefer one house of Congress to be opposite the president. Then they have to come together for the important stuff but there is a barrier for the frivolous.

He kept the “never trump” political base fully engaged with his attack on the federal election, and his support mentally turned these two races into an extension of the presidential race. Without Trumps election attacks the democrats wouldn’t have had quite the turnout they did.

If Trump would have acquiesced to the left stealing the election via massive election fraud?

There was no "massive" fraud. Stop whining.

You can continue to say that, but your words mean nothing.

PA told both the House and Senate not to count their votes due to election fraud.

(01-06-2021 08:27 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  If Trump would have acquiesced to the left stealing the election via massive election fraud?

After the fact, you can't prove anything that is actionable. You can produce all the statistical and circumstantial evidence there is (and there is a lot in this case), but you have to get it down to specific ballots to win anything. Once the ballots are in the box, there simply isn't much you can do.

What republicans should have done was to focus on saving the two seats in Georgia, and on finding ways to provide adequate controls to prevent fraud in the future (which we do not have now).

Probably also didn't help that Lin Wood stood on stage at a rally urged people to not vote.

(01-06-2021 08:31 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(01-06-2021 08:29 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(01-06-2021 08:27 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(01-06-2021 08:14 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  If Trump had accepted defeat gracefully without all the theatrics of the lawsuits and conspiracy theories I think the republicans would have won one of these, possibly both. I prefer one house of Congress to be opposite the president. Then they have to come together for the important stuff but there is a barrier for the frivolous.

He kept the “never trump” political base fully engaged with his attack on the federal election, and his support mentally turned these two races into an extension of the presidential race. Without Trumps election attacks the democrats wouldn’t have had quite the turnout they did.

If Trump would have acquiesced to the left stealing the election via massive election fraud?

There was no "massive" fraud. Stop whining.

You can continue to say that, but your words mean nothing.

PA told both the House and Senate not to count their votes due to election fraud.

Then don't take my word for it. Put forth the evidence.

And it doesn't matter what the PA house and senate do at this point. Unless they authorize and send an additional slate of electors to DC before 1:00 p.m. today, their grandstanding is moot.

What a beautiful morning.

(01-06-2021 08:55 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  What a beautiful morning.

What good could POSSIBLY come of unchecked Socialism in America? Honest question.

(01-06-2021 08:55 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  What a beautiful morning.

Not a surprising take from someone with no character.

reading this thread is a GREAT way to start my day!

Scary how many people actually believe the lie that Biden’s tax plan (which i’d imagine will now be implemented right away with these results, assuming the senate votes partisan) won’t have any effect on their lives because they aren’t a corporation and don’t make $400,000 a year.

I suspect a good amount of people in this country just voted to pay more money out of pocket for everyday products while their wages/salary will remain the same.

I’m sure the government will make good use of the extra tax money. They always do.

(01-06-2021 09:22 AM)BcatMatt13 Wrote:  Scary how many people actually believe the lie that Biden’s tax plan (which i’d imagine will now be implemented right away with these results, assuming the senate votes partisan) won’t have any effect on their lives because they aren’t a corporation and don’t make $400,000 a year.

I suspect a good amount of people in this country just voted to pay more money out of pocket for everyday products while their wages/salary will remain the same.

I’m sure the government will make good use of the extra tax money. They always do.

Bailing out the blue states will be item number 1.

I would have to imagine that the $2k stimulus will come with a bailout for the blue states.

(01-06-2021 09:25 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(01-06-2021 09:22 AM)BcatMatt13 Wrote:  Scary how many people actually believe the lie that Biden’s tax plan (which i’d imagine will now be implemented right away with these results, assuming the senate votes partisan) won’t have any effect on their lives because they aren’t a corporation and don’t make $400,000 a year.

I suspect a good amount of people in this country just voted to pay more money out of pocket for everyday products while their wages/salary will remain the same.

I’m sure the government will make good use of the extra tax money. They always do.

Bailing out the blue states will be item number 1.

Yup. Raised taxes being used to fix problems of wasteful tax spending.

Let’s forget about the foreign governments. They’re big winners in this too.

(01-06-2021 09:22 AM)BcatMatt13 Wrote:  Scary how many people actually believe the lie that Biden’s tax plan (which i’d imagine will now be implemented right away with these results, assuming the senate votes partisan) won’t have any effect on their lives because they aren’t a corporation and don’t make $400,000 a year.

I suspect a good amount of people in this country just voted to pay more money out of pocket for everyday products while their wages/salary will remain the same.

I’m sure the government will make good use of the extra tax money. They always do.

The Democrats are stupid people. No more, no less.

(01-06-2021 09:34 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  

(01-06-2021 09:22 AM)BcatMatt13 Wrote:  Scary how many people actually believe the lie that Biden’s tax plan (which i’d imagine will now be implemented right away with these results, assuming the senate votes partisan) won’t have any effect on their lives because they aren’t a corporation and don’t make $400,000 a year.

I suspect a good amount of people in this country just voted to pay more money out of pocket for everyday products while their wages/salary will remain the same.

I’m sure the government will make good use of the extra tax money. They always do.

The Democrats are stupid people. No more, no less.

better than being a loooser like Trump...he lost bigly...it was YUGE!

(01-06-2021 09:36 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(01-06-2021 09:34 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  

(01-06-2021 09:22 AM)BcatMatt13 Wrote:  Scary how many people actually believe the lie that Biden’s tax plan (which i’d imagine will now be implemented right away with these results, assuming the senate votes partisan) won’t have any effect on their lives because they aren’t a corporation and don’t make $400,000 a year.

I suspect a good amount of people in this country just voted to pay more money out of pocket for everyday products while their wages/salary will remain the same.

I’m sure the government will make good use of the extra tax money. They always do.

The Democrats are stupid people. No more, no less.

better than being a loooser like Trump...he lost bigly...it was YUGE!

but you are a loser

(01-06-2021 09:36 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(01-06-2021 09:34 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  

(01-06-2021 09:22 AM)BcatMatt13 Wrote:  Scary how many people actually believe the lie that Biden’s tax plan (which i’d imagine will now be implemented right away with these results, assuming the senate votes partisan) won’t have any effect on their lives because they aren’t a corporation and don’t make $400,000 a year.

I suspect a good amount of people in this country just voted to pay more money out of pocket for everyday products while their wages/salary will remain the same.

I’m sure the government will make good use of the extra tax money. They always do.

The Democrats are stupid people. No more, no less.

better than being a loooser like Trump...he lost bigly...it was YUGE!

“I don’t care if the ship sinks, as long as my guy is the captain.”