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UCF is the American flagship and it's not even close.
Thank you UCF for bringing some inkling of validity to this conference. Houston had its moment. The rest of us are all frauds.
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Lmao
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No flagship in AAC. That's the true beauty of AAC....we're not a 1 trick pony and depending on 1 team to be good year in year out.
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I'd play along if not for the fact the state of Oklahoma went 4-0 against the state of Florida this year. Gonna start calling it Oklahoma-South.
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UCF made a name for their program. Somehow the most hated underdog in the land. For better or worse all college football fans recognize them.

I think the natty claim really inspired hate in the hearts of fans who cheer for P5 teams that will never sniff a title. Somehow an Illinois type fan gets really worked up over UCF.
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(01-01-2021 03:50 PM)mustangxc Wrote:  Thank you UCF for bringing some inkling of validity to this conference. Houston had its moment. The rest of us are all frauds.

SMU doesn't even qualify to be a fraud.
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The conference owns the NY6 G5 slot so we got that going for us.
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Someone see,s mad that SMU can’t seem to have a complete season.
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I have all the respect in the world for UCF but SMU fan cucking himself to UCF is pretty sad.
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(01-01-2021 03:50 PM)mustangxc Wrote:  Thank you UCF for bringing some inkling of validity to this conference. Houston had its moment. The rest of us are all frauds.

SMU is a fraud, that is for sure. UCF has been good , but currently about 45 points inferior to BYU. Or was it 55?
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(01-01-2021 04:04 PM)Hurricane Drummer Wrote:  I'd play along if not for the fact the state of Oklahoma went 4-0 against the state of Florida this year. Gonna start calling it Oklahoma-South.

Too bad you couldn't take down 3-7 Mississippi State. But feel free to pat yourself on the back for the OU and OSU wins this week. which of course Tulsa had nothing to do with.
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(01-01-2021 05:23 PM)vabearcat Wrote:  
(01-01-2021 04:04 PM)Hurricane Drummer Wrote:  I'd play along if not for the fact the state of Oklahoma went 4-0 against the state of Florida this year. Gonna start calling it Oklahoma-South.

Too bad you couldn't take down 3-7 Mississippi State. But feel free to pat yourself on the back for the OU and OSU wins this week. which of course Tulsa had nothing to do with.

This is exactly why this conference sucks...I’m the flagship.... no I’m the flagship...get us out of this conference because my school is the flagship...well no one is taking any one of us..for the foreseeable future...so get your rocks off being the flagship..
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It does suck that we can’t capitalize on any of the big games recently. Our loss to LSU I feel is understandable, we lost our starting QB. But Memphis last year was a FG kicking contest, and Cincy flat out choked. We have to capitalize on games like this to bring some more respect and viewers to this conference or else we will never be a P6
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I just want the AAC Champion to win the NY6 bowl on a consistent basis.

Both the CFP expansion and Power 6 depend on it.

UCF and Boise State have the Goliath Killer persona by the media.
I’m not sure why Houston’s NY6 win doesn’t carry the same weight in public perception.
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2/3 of AAC NY6 bowl wins, impressive.
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(01-01-2021 05:31 PM)uchoops Wrote:  
(01-01-2021 05:23 PM)vabearcat Wrote:  
(01-01-2021 04:04 PM)Hurricane Drummer Wrote:  I'd play along if not for the fact the state of Oklahoma went 4-0 against the state of Florida this year. Gonna start calling it Oklahoma-South.

Too bad you couldn't take down 3-7 Mississippi State. But feel free to pat yourself on the back for the OU and OSU wins this week. which of course Tulsa had nothing to do with.

This is exactly why this conference sucks...I’m the flagship.... no I’m the flagship...get us out of this conference because my school is the flagship...well no one is taking any one of us..for the foreseeable future...so get your rocks off being the flagship..

Confused...no UCF fan made that point and the only post prior to mine was to laugh at the OP.....
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(01-01-2021 04:04 PM)ncbeta Wrote:  UCF made a name for their program. Somehow the most hated underdog in the land. For better or worse all college football fans recognize them.

I think the natty claim really inspired hate in the hearts of fans who cheer for P5 teams that will never sniff a title. Somehow an Illinois type fan gets really worked up over UCF.

We took the PT Barnum approach and it’s worked.
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(01-01-2021 05:45 PM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  I just want the AAC Champion to win the NY6 bowl on a consistent basis.

Both the CFP expansion and Power 6 depend on it.

UCF and Boise State have the Goliath Killer persona by the media.
I’m not sure why Houston’s NY6 win doesn’t carry the same weight in public perception.

The biggest difference is UCF and Boise State have both made 3 BCS/NY6 bowls in the last 15 years whereas Houston only made one appearance. Houston was very close on two other occasions but close is simply forgotten by most fans.
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(01-02-2021 11:31 AM)mustangxc Wrote:  
(01-01-2021 05:45 PM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  I just want the AAC Champion to win the NY6 bowl on a consistent basis.

Both the CFP expansion and Power 6 depend on it.

UCF and Boise State have the Goliath Killer persona by the media.
I’m not sure why Houston’s NY6 win doesn’t carry the same weight in public perception.

The biggest difference is UCF and Boise State have both made 3 BCS/NY6 bowls in the last 15 years whereas Houston only made one appearance. Houston was very close on two other occasions but close is simply forgotten by most fans.

2016 and Houston after the Peach Bowl win is actually an interesting discussion point.
Houston finished 2015 8/8 in the final polls, and then was pre-season 15/13. By comparison, UCF was 6/7 after their 2017 Peach Bowl win and opened at 21/23.
Houston beat Oklahoma and was at 6/5 (still before CFP came out) when Navy beat them. After that loss, Houston only dropped to #13/12 (and Navy, with a bad loss to Air Force prior came into the AP at #25, rv in Coaches). Before Houston's loss to SMU, they got up to 11/11. Why does that matter before CFP? Well, when the first CFP rankings came out that year, the top 11 in the AP poll were in the top 11 of the CFP. Had Houston lost to Navy but not to SMU, they would have almost certainly have started the CFP rankings higher than UCF did after their Peach Bowl win. Had they won both? The Coogs might have started the 2016 CFP rankings higher than any of our flag-bearers have ever been since. Undefeated UW was at #5 in the first CFP ranking and would end up #4 with one loss; UW might have fallen below Houston with their first loss. Then a November win over one-loss Louisville might have solidified #4 for Houston - Louisville was #5 in the CFP when Houston beat them in mid-November. (and supposedly, then, not lose to Memphis, and then beat Temple again in the ccg).
But that didn't happen.

That was the year where 2-loss Navy was poised to overtake undefeated WMU for the NY6 bid based on "quality wins"...which the CFP committee identified as their AAC wins, not the win over a down Notre Dame.

...cynical me says that a Houston team, with wins over Oklahoma and Louisville, undefeated in a tough AAC that that year's committee credited when it was a #18 discussion not a top 4 discussion would have still somehow been #5.

And then, 2016 gets overshadowed by flash-in-the-pan WMU taking the NY6 bowl bid over THREE loss Temple.

On one hand, UCF fans should squawk less about doing things no one else has, or being some kind of trailblazer, or everyone else owes credit to them.
On the other hand...did UCF get downgraded through 2018 because Houston didn't deliver on 2015's promise in 2016?
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(01-02-2021 09:10 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(01-02-2021 11:31 AM)mustangxc Wrote:  
(01-01-2021 05:45 PM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  I just want the AAC Champion to win the NY6 bowl on a consistent basis.

Both the CFP expansion and Power 6 depend on it.

UCF and Boise State have the Goliath Killer persona by the media.
I’m not sure why Houston’s NY6 win doesn’t carry the same weight in public perception.

The biggest difference is UCF and Boise State have both made 3 BCS/NY6 bowls in the last 15 years whereas Houston only made one appearance. Houston was very close on two other occasions but close is simply forgotten by most fans.

2016 and Houston after the Peach Bowl win is actually an interesting discussion point.
Houston finished 2015 8/8 in the final polls, and then was pre-season 15/13. By comparison, UCF was 6/7 after their 2017 Peach Bowl win and opened at 21/23.
Houston beat Oklahoma and was at 6/5 (still before CFP came out) when Navy beat them. After that loss, Houston only dropped to #13/12 (and Navy, with a bad loss to Air Force prior came into the AP at #25, rv in Coaches). Before Houston's loss to SMU, they got up to 11/11. Why does that matter before CFP? Well, when the first CFP rankings came out that year, the top 11 in the AP poll were in the top 11 of the CFP. Had Houston lost to Navy but not to SMU, they would have almost certainly have started the CFP rankings higher than UCF did after their Peach Bowl win. Had they won both? The Coogs might have started the 2016 CFP rankings higher than any of our flag-bearers have ever been since. Undefeated UW was at #5 in the first CFP ranking and would end up #4 with one loss; UW might have fallen below Houston with their first loss. Then a November win over one-loss Louisville might have solidified #4 for Houston - Louisville was #5 in the CFP when Houston beat them in mid-November. (and supposedly, then, not lose to Memphis, and then beat Temple again in the ccg).
But that didn't happen.

That was the year where 2-loss Navy was poised to overtake undefeated WMU for the NY6 bid based on "quality wins"...which the CFP committee identified as their AAC wins, not the win over a down Notre Dame.

...cynical me says that a Houston team, with wins over Oklahoma and Louisville, undefeated in a tough AAC that that year's committee credited when it was a #18 discussion not a top 4 discussion would have still somehow been #5.

And then, 2016 gets overshadowed by flash-in-the-pan WMU taking the NY6 bowl bid over THREE loss Temple.

On one hand, UCF fans should squawk less about doing things no one else has, or being some kind of trailblazer, or everyone else owes credit to them.
On the other hand...did UCF get downgraded through 2018 because Houston didn't deliver on 2015's promise in 2016?
UCF fans didn’t start this thread.
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