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(12-28-2020 09:45 AM)Ken Barna Wrote:  Dear brovol,
Please, when you say check the facts with President Obama, that's exactly what you should do. Obama's last two years were low unemployment and an improved economy overall. You are better then that.

So, as compared to his previous six years of economic plight, the last two of Obama's eight years were better? And that is Obama style "recovery"!

How many businesses closed in Ypsilanti during the Obama years Ken? Lots of boarded up buildings all across the country.

But you are right about one thing; I should be better than to engage in these conversations online. I was pretty good about if for awhile, and now like a sober drunk who has a lapse. LOL.

Have a good New Year Ken. I still appreciate your style.
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(12-28-2020 11:09 AM)brovol Wrote:  
(12-28-2020 09:45 AM)Ken Barna Wrote:  Dear brovol,
Please, when you say check the facts with President Obama, that's exactly what you should do. Obama's last two years were low unemployment and an improved economy overall. You are better then that.

So, as compared to his previous six years of economic plight, the last two of Obama's eight years were better? And that is Obama style "recovery"!

How many businesses closed in Ypsilanti during the Obama years Ken? Lots of boarded up buildings all across the country.

But you are right about one thing; I should be better than to engage in these conversations online. I was pretty good about if for awhile, and now like a sober drunk who has a lapse. LOL.

Have a good New Year Ken. I still appreciate your style.

You don't have a very firm grasp on how an economy works. It's a slow moving vessel. Not a speedboat. Barack Obama inherited an economy in financial crisis. Worst it had been since the Great Depression. Bailouts of Wall Street, the auto industry, etc were occurring right as W transitioned to Barack. Obviously, there were still bad times ahead as our economy can not rebound overnight. I hope you can grasp this concept.

We saw recovery & growth during the Obama years. That's one of the reasons America re-elected him, unlike Trump.

Then Trump took over and the economy continued to grow. This is where Trump, and I'm assuming you, think it had nothing to do with the 8 years of recovery under Obama. No connection whatsoever right?

Now the economy has tanked again. I don't put all the blame on Trump. Obviously, COVID is decimating economies all over the world. But, he surely hasn't helped any. He was a public COVID denier in the early days, yet he told Bob Woodward on tape that it was very bad. He has irresponsibly led us on simple things like mask wearing and even told states to LIBERATE themselves. And guess what, Michigan tried. Real consequences to his reckless tweets. His political grandstanding has continued to current day where he has delayed a bipartisan COVID stimulus bill, when Americans desperately need it.
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(12-28-2020 12:35 PM)BroncoMinor Wrote:  
(12-28-2020 11:09 AM)brovol Wrote:  
(12-28-2020 09:45 AM)Ken Barna Wrote:  Dear brovol,
Please, when you say check the facts with President Obama, that's exactly what you should do. Obama's last two years were low unemployment and an improved economy overall. You are better then that.

So, as compared to his previous six years of economic plight, the last two of Obama's eight years were better? And that is Obama style "recovery"!

How many businesses closed in Ypsilanti during the Obama years Ken? Lots of boarded up buildings all across the country.

But you are right about one thing; I should be better than to engage in these conversations online. I was pretty good about if for awhile, and now like a sober drunk who has a lapse. LOL.

Have a good New Year Ken. I still appreciate your style.

You don't have a very firm grasp on how an economy works. It's a slow moving vessel. Not a speedboat. Barack Obama inherited an economy in financial crisis. Worst it had been since the Great Depression. Bailouts of Wall Street, the auto industry, etc were occurring right as W transitioned to Barack. Obviously, there were still bad times ahead as our economy can not rebound overnight. I hope you can grasp this concept.

We saw recovery & growth during the Obama years. That's one of the reasons America re-elected him, unlike Trump.

Then Trump took over and the economy continued to grow. This is where Trump, and I'm assuming you, think it had nothing to do with the 8 years of recovery under Obama. No connection whatsoever right?

Now the economy has tanked again. I don't put all the blame on Trump. Obviously, COVID is decimating economies all over the world. But, he surely hasn't helped any. He was a public COVID denier in the early days, yet he told Bob Woodward on tape that it was very bad. He has irresponsibly led us on simple things like mask wearing and even told states to LIBERATE themselves. And guess what, Michigan tried. Real consequences to his reckless tweets. His political grandstanding has continued to current day where he has delayed a bipartisan COVID stimulus bill, when Americans desperately need it.

Bull $hit!
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Truth hurts when you're STILL bitter about outcome of election?
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Biden has been more Presidential in the last month than Trump was for four years.
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Saying things are "facts" just because you feel like it, whether that has to do with the false claim on these message boards that I see often that Dunn hired Fleck or whether it has to do with Obama leading the country out of financial ruin, does not make those things anymore factual.

They are just false statements not based in reality.
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(12-28-2020 05:31 PM)StrikeGold1 Wrote:  Saying things are "facts" just because you feel like it, whether that has to do with the false claim on these message boards that I see often that Dunn hired Fleck or whether it has to do with Obama leading the country out of financial ruin, does not make those things anymore factual.

They are just false statements not based in reality.
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(12-28-2020 03:25 PM)MajorHoople Wrote:  Biden has been more Presidential in the last month than Trump was for four years.

Glad you're impressed. People inside the Democratic Party have always said Biden is style not substance. The guy is a trainwreck that's why he was muzzled during the campaign. He'd come up with another, Obama "the first main stream African-American who is articulate bright and clean and a nice-looking guy." Oh yeah his claim about marching during the civil rights movement, except he didn't.
Top half of his law school class, #76 out of 85.
Guy is a big phony and this goes back to his first Presidential run which lasted about 3 months until
people found out what he was really about.
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(12-29-2020 10:55 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  
(12-28-2020 03:25 PM)MajorHoople Wrote:  Biden has been more Presidential in the last month than Trump was for four years.

Glad you're impressed. People inside the Democratic Party have always said Biden is style not substance. The guy is a trainwreck that's why he was muzzled during the campaign. He'd come up with another, Obama "the first main stream African-American who is articulate bright and clean and a nice-looking guy." Oh yeah his claim about marching during the civil rights movement, except he didn't.
Top half of his law school class, #76 out of 85.
Guy is a big phony and this goes back to his first Presidential run which lasted about 3 months until
people found out what he was really about.
Please refer me to any actual evidence that people inside the Democratic Party say he is style not substance.

Some of the gaffs you & others are pointing out is the opposite of style over substance. He's a 78 year old man who has tragically lost a wife, a daughter, and a son. He has a stuttering problem. He rode a train to work for most of his working life.

Again...not trying to put Biden up on a pedestal. But, no one can seem to support Trump's actions as President with anything other than criticisms of Biden. Who, by my count, has been President for zero days so far.
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(12-29-2020 11:13 AM)BroncoMinor Wrote:  
(12-29-2020 10:55 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  
(12-28-2020 03:25 PM)MajorHoople Wrote:  Biden has been more Presidential in the last month than Trump was for four years.

Glad you're impressed. People inside the Democratic Party have always said Biden is style not substance. The guy is a trainwreck that's why he was muzzled during the campaign. He'd come up with another, Obama "the first main stream African-American who is articulate bright and clean and a nice-looking guy." Oh yeah his claim about marching during the civil rights movement, except he didn't.
Top half of his law school class, #76 out of 85.
Guy is a big phony and this goes back to his first Presidential run which lasted about 3 months until
people found out what he was really about.
Please refer me to any actual evidence that people inside the Democratic Party say he is style not substance.

Some of the gaffs you & others are pointing out is the opposite of style over substance. He's a 78 year old man who has tragically lost a wife, a daughter, and a son. He has a stuttering problem. He rode a train to work for most of working career.

Again...not trying to put Biden up on a pedestal. But, no one can seem to support Trump's actions as President with anything other than criticisms of Biden. Who, by my count, has been President for zero days so far.

OMG Minor; you have really drank the blue koolaid.

Biden doesn't stutter at all. He is, in fact, a quite polished speaker. I hired him to speak at a law review convention when I was in law school, and had a lengthy conversation with him after he spoke. It was after his first run for president. He is old now, and like many his age, his capacities have diminished. How diminished? We can all make our assessments, but without question his election team very openly and conspicuously kept him hidden so as not to allow Joe to manifest how diminished his capacity was and is. I promise there will be books written by insiders in the next 5-10 years.

Biden's wife died many years ago, when she drove into an oncoming semi. Joe used her death for decades to gain the exact sympathy you obviously have, in order to promote his political aspirations. Worse, he mischaracterized the event by suggesting that the accident was the semi-driver's fault, when it wasn't at all, and Joe claimed that the truck driver had been drinking, which was entirely false and slanderous. These things are evidence of very poor character, and dishonesty.

As for style over substance, that label applies to almost all politicians, on both sides. The reality is that American voters don't know much about what legitimate and relevant issues are in an election, and decide who they are going to vote for based on what other people feed them from the media or in their personal lives. Some people vote based on party, and nothing more. Some vote on who they find more physically or sexually attractive. And yes, some vote based on hating or loving what the candidate tweets. Voters are too easy to manipulate; particularly in national or statewide elections. Folks dont know what good government is or should be, and as generations pass, Americans have lost sight how our country's government was established, why it was established the way it was, how it is supposed to work, and why liberty, is so important. As this last year has so clearly illustrated, Americans have no appreciation for the goose that has been laying the golden eggs for America and Americans, of all colors and creeds, and have been too willing to piss away so much. Sad!
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(12-29-2020 12:57 PM)brovol Wrote:  
(12-29-2020 11:13 AM)BroncoMinor Wrote:  
(12-29-2020 10:55 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  
(12-28-2020 03:25 PM)MajorHoople Wrote:  Biden has been more Presidential in the last month than Trump was for four years.

Glad you're impressed. People inside the Democratic Party have always said Biden is style not substance. The guy is a trainwreck that's why he was muzzled during the campaign. He'd come up with another, Obama "the first main stream African-American who is articulate bright and clean and a nice-looking guy." Oh yeah his claim about marching during the civil rights movement, except he didn't.
Top half of his law school class, #76 out of 85.
Guy is a big phony and this goes back to his first Presidential run which lasted about 3 months until
people found out what he was really about.
Please refer me to any actual evidence that people inside the Democratic Party say he is style not substance.

Some of the gaffs you & others are pointing out is the opposite of style over substance. He's a 78 year old man who has tragically lost a wife, a daughter, and a son. He has a stuttering problem. He rode a train to work for most of working career.

Again...not trying to put Biden up on a pedestal. But, no one can seem to support Trump's actions as President with anything other than criticisms of Biden. Who, by my count, has been President for zero days so far.

OMG Minor; you have really drank the blue koolaid.

Biden doesn't stutter at all. He is, in fact, a quite polished speaker. I hired him to speak at a law review convention when I was in law school, and had a lengthy conversation with him after he spoke. It was after his first run for president. He is old now, and like many his age, his capacities have diminished. How diminished? We can all make our assessments, but without question his election team very openly and conspicuously kept him hidden so as not to allow Joe to manifest how diminished his capacity was and is. I promise there will be books written by insiders in the next 5-10 years.

Biden's wife died many years ago, when she drove into an oncoming semi. Joe used her death for decades to gain the exact sympathy you obviously have, in order to promote his political aspirations. Worse, he mischaracterized the event by suggesting that the accident was the semi-driver's fault, when it wasn't at all, and Joe claimed that the truck driver had been drinking, which was entirely false and slanderous. These things are evidence of very poor character, and dishonesty.

As for style over substance, that label applies to almost all politicians, on both sides. The reality is that American voters don't know much about what legitimate and relevant issues are in an election, and decide who they are going to vote for based on what other people feed them from the media or in their personal lives. Some people vote based on party, and nothing more. Some vote on who they find more physically or sexually attractive. And yes, some vote based on hating or loving what the candidate tweets. Voters are too easy to manipulate; particularly in national or statewide elections. Folks dont know what good government is or should be, and as generations pass, Americans have lost sight how our country's government was established, why it was established the way it was, how it is supposed to work, and why liberty, is so important. As this last year has so clearly illustrated, Americans have no appreciation for the goose that has been laying the golden eggs for America and Americans, of all colors and creeds, and have been too willing to piss away so much. Sad!
Joe Biden is in fact a stutterer. If you can't accept simple statements of reality, there is no point to having a back and forth discussion.

https://www.stutteringhelp.org/content/joe-biden

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/05/politics/...index.html

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/arc...le/602401/
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Agreed on the stuttering









The similarities are fairly obvious.
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When Trump was elected in 2016, my neighbor was upset. I told him, "Let's see how he does."

Now that Biden is elected, I say the same thing, "Let's see how he does."

God Bless America!!! . . . and GO BRONCOS!!!
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You obviously have not watched any of Biden's speeches-press conferences within the last month.

And even if he did falter once or twice - he is not a pathological liar like his soon-to-be predecessor.
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(12-29-2020 05:22 PM)MajorHoople Wrote:  You obviously have not watched any of Biden's speeches-press conferences within the last month.

And even if he did falter once or twice - he is not a pathological liar like his soon-to-be predecessor.


I wasn't criticizing Joe Biden. Or comparing him to DJT.

They are both nothing to me.

The lowest of the low.

Anyone care to share a video of the adult version of Joe Biden "stuttering"?
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(12-29-2020 06:11 PM)ess Wrote:  
(12-29-2020 05:22 PM)MajorHoople Wrote:  You obviously have not watched any of Biden's speeches-press conferences within the last month.

And even if he did falter once or twice - he is not a pathological liar like his soon-to-be predecessor.


I wasn't criticizing Joe Biden. Or comparing him to DJT.

They are both nothing to me.

The lowest of the low.

Anyone care to share a video of the adult version of Joe Biden "stuttering"?
There are times when you can see him tripping on his words. I’m not pointing this out to criticize him. There are plenty of people who are stutterers and overcome this as adults: Biden, Bill Walton, James Earl Jones, Samuel L Jackson.

I just brought this up because it doesn’t align with someone who is style over substance.
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(12-29-2020 07:07 PM)BroncoMinor Wrote:  There are times when you can see him tripping on his words. I’m not pointing this out to criticize him.

I didn't think you were criticizing him.

"Tripping on your words" is not stuttering.

It's tripping on your words.

IMHO....stuttering (as an adult) is a narrative that is being used to excuse his repeated "tripping".

I'm happy to be proven wrong.

As Warner Wolf would say...."let's go to the video tape".

Anyone?
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Wow. We're to the point that having a dead wife and two dead kids is a character flaw. This is bad, guys. This is really bad.
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(12-29-2020 10:25 PM)StrikeGold1 Wrote:  Wow. We're to the point that having a dead wife and two dead kids is a character flaw. This is bad, guys. This is really bad.

No, but embellishing the story for attention is......

How ****** up do you have to be to lose a wife and child and still lie about the story to make it more dramatic?
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(12-29-2020 03:36 PM)BroncoMinor Wrote:  
(12-29-2020 12:57 PM)brovol Wrote:  
(12-29-2020 11:13 AM)BroncoMinor Wrote:  
(12-29-2020 10:55 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  
(12-28-2020 03:25 PM)MajorHoople Wrote:  Biden has been more Presidential in the last month than Trump was for four years.

Glad you're impressed. People inside the Democratic Party have always said Biden is style not substance. The guy is a trainwreck that's why he was muzzled during the campaign. He'd come up with another, Obama "the first main stream African-American who is articulate bright and clean and a nice-looking guy." Oh yeah his claim about marching during the civil rights movement, except he didn't.
Top half of his law school class, #76 out of 85.
Guy is a big phony and this goes back to his first Presidential run which lasted about 3 months until
people found out what he was really about.
Please refer me to any actual evidence that people inside the Democratic Party say he is style not substance.

Some of the gaffs you & others are pointing out is the opposite of style over substance. He's a 78 year old man who has tragically lost a wife, a daughter, and a son. He has a stuttering problem. He rode a train to work for most of working career.

Again...not trying to put Biden up on a pedestal. But, no one can seem to support Trump's actions as President with anything other than criticisms of Biden. Who, by my count, has been President for zero days so far.

OMG Minor; you have really drank the blue koolaid.

Biden doesn't stutter at all. He is, in fact, a quite polished speaker. I hired him to speak at a law review convention when I was in law school, and had a lengthy conversation with him after he spoke. It was after his first run for president. He is old now, and like many his age, his capacities have diminished. How diminished? We can all make our assessments, but without question his election team very openly and conspicuously kept him hidden so as not to allow Joe to manifest how diminished his capacity was and is. I promise there will be books written by insiders in the next 5-10 years.

Biden's wife died many years ago, when she drove into an oncoming semi. Joe used her death for decades to gain the exact sympathy you obviously have, in order to promote his political aspirations. Worse, he mischaracterized the event by suggesting that the accident was the semi-driver's fault, when it wasn't at all, and Joe claimed that the truck driver had been drinking, which was entirely false and slanderous. These things are evidence of very poor character, and dishonesty.

As for style over substance, that label applies to almost all politicians, on both sides. The reality is that American voters don't know much about what legitimate and relevant issues are in an election, and decide who they are going to vote for based on what other people feed them from the media or in their personal lives. Some people vote based on party, and nothing more. Some vote on who they find more physically or sexually attractive. And yes, some vote based on hating or loving what the candidate tweets. Voters are too easy to manipulate; particularly in national or statewide elections. Folks dont know what good government is or should be, and as generations pass, Americans have lost sight how our country's government was established, why it was established the way it was, how it is supposed to work, and why liberty, is so important. As this last year has so clearly illustrated, Americans have no appreciation for the goose that has been laying the golden eggs for America and Americans, of all colors and creeds, and have been too willing to piss away so much. Sad!
Joe Biden is in fact a stutterer. If you can't accept simple statements of reality, there is no point to having a back and forth discussion.

https://www.stutteringhelp.org/content/joe-biden

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/05/politics/...index.html

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/arc...le/602401/

Not remembering which college you attended is not
attributable to stuttering.
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