(12-19-2020 07:17 PM)Big Red Wrote:  

(12-19-2020 06:53 PM)HuskieDave Wrote:  

(12-19-2020 05:36 PM)Big Red Wrote:  

(12-19-2020 05:30 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  

(12-19-2020 05:26 PM)Big Red Wrote:  Someone had to "win" the West.

Difficult for any team to beat Ohio State. Northwestern is good. They would wipe the floor with us.

Comparing any team in the B1G West to what they would do to NIU is a waste of time. Ohio State slogged through a win today against NU and didn't overly impress at all.

I think if Iowa State beat Oklahoma, they'd have leapfrogged Ohio State for the CFP. But them losing means the only team that has a chance to nudge them out is Texas A&M but, they're a long shot not being in a conference championship.

A two loss, including a blowout loss to Louisiana, Iowa State was not going to jump an undefeated B1G champion. No chance.

Maybe. But its a moot point.

Now...does Notre Dame hold on to the 4th spot after today?

Notre Dame really sucks when it counts most. They’re not a top 5 team as usual.

(12-19-2020 07:21 PM)BDB5yp Wrote:  

(12-19-2020 07:17 PM)Big Red Wrote:  

(12-19-2020 06:53 PM)HuskieDave Wrote:  

(12-19-2020 05:36 PM)Big Red Wrote:  

(12-19-2020 05:30 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  Difficult for any team to beat Ohio State. Northwestern is good. They would wipe the floor with us.

Comparing any team in the B1G West to what they would do to NIU is a waste of time. Ohio State slogged through a win today against NU and didn't overly impress at all.

I think if Iowa State beat Oklahoma, they'd have leapfrogged Ohio State for the CFP. But them losing means the only team that has a chance to nudge them out is Texas A&M but, they're a long shot not being in a conference championship.

A two loss, including a blowout loss to Louisiana, Iowa State was not going to jump an undefeated B1G champion. No chance.

Maybe. But its a moot point.

Now...does Notre Dame hold on to the 4th spot after today?

Notre Dame really sucks when it counts most. They’re not a top 5 team as usual.

I don't think so either, but I'm not super comfortable with anyone else replacing them. Texas A&M doesn't inspire me. Neither does Oklahoma and their loss to Kansas State.

So....I dunno.

(12-19-2020 09:51 PM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  

(12-19-2020 07:21 PM)BDB5yp Wrote:  

(12-19-2020 07:17 PM)Big Red Wrote:  

(12-19-2020 06:53 PM)HuskieDave Wrote:  

(12-19-2020 05:36 PM)Big Red Wrote:  Comparing any team in the B1G West to what they would do to NIU is a waste of time. Ohio State slogged through a win today against NU and didn't overly impress at all.

I think if Iowa State beat Oklahoma, they'd have leapfrogged Ohio State for the CFP. But them losing means the only team that has a chance to nudge them out is Texas A&M but, they're a long shot not being in a conference championship.

A two loss, including a blowout loss to Louisiana, Iowa State was not going to jump an undefeated B1G champion. No chance.

Maybe. But its a moot point.

Now...does Notre Dame hold on to the 4th spot after today?

Notre Dame really sucks when it counts most. They’re not a top 5 team as usual.

Notre Dame got lucky the first time they played Clemson with Lawrence out. They would have gotten dusted in that game if he played. I don’t want to see them in the playoff. Give someone else a shot. I am good on watching Alabama blowing them out in the semis.

While I agree, Lawrence didn't hold them to 10 points.

(12-19-2020 01:23 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  

(12-19-2020 01:15 PM)NIU05 Wrote:  Bielema is a good hire for them, at the vet least he will bring respectability back. That Toledo hire (Beckman) set them back a decade. He wasn't even a top MAC coach and one of the weaker coaches that have coached at Toledo.

And Toledo has had plenty of bad coaches. We know it’s not the players because they annually have the no. 1 recruiting classes in the nation.

Bielma is a good hire for the Illini.

Its fun to poke fun at Toledo. Plenty of bad coaches? Besides Beckman, please tell me the rest that were bad? Going back three decades we had Nick Sabin (Alabama), Gary Pinkle (retired from Missouri), Tom Amstutz (retired from UT), Tim Beckman (fired from Illinois), Matt Campbell (Iowa State), and now Jason Candle. I would not characterize any of them as bad, but we certainly could have done better some years, no doubt about that.

Speaking of bad coaches, if you are up for a little fun you should check the standings for NIU in football, mens basketball and womens basketball. All three in last place out of every single team in the MAC. That is an amazing feat. 36 total teams in all three sports with NIU having all three of them ranked dead last. You all might have a few bad coaches on your hands right now. Your AD better figure out what is wrong and fast. Wait, you might have a bad athletic director too? He made all of these hires. Way to represent the league across the board!

(12-20-2020 07:43 AM)stpeterocketfan Wrote:  

(12-19-2020 01:23 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  [quote='NIU05' pid='17171594' dateline='1608401747']
Bielema is a good hire for them, at the vet least he will bring respectability back. That Toledo hire (Beckman) set them back a decade. He wasn't even a top MAC coach and one of the weaker coaches that have coached at Toledo.

And Toledo has had plenty of bad coaches. We know it’s not the players because they annually have the no. 1 recruiting classes in the nation.

Bielma is a good hire for the Illini.

Its fun to poke fun at Toledo. Plenty of bad coaches? Besides Beckman, please tell me the rest that were bad? Going back three decades we had Nick Sabin (Alabama), Gary Pinkle (retired from Missouri), Tom Amstutz (retired from UT), Tim Beckman (fired from Illinois), Matt Campbell (Iowa State), and now Jason Candle. I would not characterize any of them as bad, but we certainly could have done better some years, no doubt about that.

Speaking of bad coaches, if you are up for a little fun you should check the standings for NIU in football, mens basketball and womens basketball. All three in last place out of every single team in the MAC. That is an amazing feat. 36 total teams in all three sports with NIU having all three of them ranked dead last. You all might have a few bad coaches on your hands right now. Happy to compare your basketball coaches to ours in both mens and womens basketball. Your AD better figure out what is wrong and fast. Wait, you might have a bad athletic director too? He made all three hires and they dont look good. Our AD Mike O'Brien has been at UT for 25 years. Bad Athletic directors dont keep their jobs that long.

If I was NIU I would be very worried about your AD and the coaches he has fired. But I guess I will worry about all of our bad coaches that seem to have winning seasons just about every single year in all three major sports.

He is a great hire. Knows midwest and big 10. Good recruiter. Probably their best coach in decades. I still feel that Michigan and TheOSU were main reasons that Illinois got death penalty back in 80s when White was coaching

(12-20-2020 08:10 AM)stpeterocketfan Wrote:  

(12-20-2020 07:43 AM)stpeterocketfan Wrote:  

(12-19-2020 01:23 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  [quote='NIU05' pid='17171594' dateline='1608401747']
Bielema is a good hire for them, at the vet least he will bring respectability back. That Toledo hire (Beckman) set them back a decade. He wasn't even a top MAC coach and one of the weaker coaches that have coached at Toledo.

And Toledo has had plenty of bad coaches. We know it’s not the players because they annually have the no. 1 recruiting classes in the nation.

Bielma is a good hire for the Illini.

Its fun to poke fun at Toledo. Plenty of bad coaches? Besides Beckman, please tell me the rest that were bad? Going back three decades we had Nick Sabin (Alabama), Gary Pinkle (retired from Missouri), Tom Amstutz (retired from UT), Tim Beckman (fired from Illinois), Matt Campbell (Iowa State), and now Jason Candle. I would not characterize any of them as bad, but we certainly could have done better some years, no doubt about that.

Speaking of bad coaches, if you are up for a little fun you should check the standings for NIU in football, mens basketball and womens basketball. All three in last place out of every single team in the MAC. That is an amazing feat. 36 total teams in all three sports with NIU having all three of them ranked dead last. You all might have a few bad coaches on your hands right now. Happy to compare your basketball coaches to ours in both mens and womens basketball. Your AD better figure out what is wrong and fast. Wait, you might have a bad athletic director too? He made all three hires and they dont look good. Our AD Mike O'Brien has been at UT for 25 years. Bad Athletic directors dont keep their jobs that long.

If I was NIU I would be very worried about your AD and the coaches he has fired. But I guess I will worry about all of our bad coaches that seem to have winning seasons just about every single year in all three major sports.

As of this moment, I have to agree with many of the above statements. When you add basketball to the mix and overall sports success...I would rather have Toledo’s resume in some ways. Though football was quite magical in 2010-2013, it is slowly fading away and basketball has been a hair pulling, head banging frustration

(12-20-2020 10:24 AM)JB04 Wrote:  

(12-20-2020 08:10 AM)stpeterocketfan Wrote:  

(12-20-2020 07:43 AM)stpeterocketfan Wrote:  

(12-19-2020 01:23 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  [quote='NIU05' pid='17171594' dateline='1608401747']
Bielema is a good hire for them, at the vet least he will bring respectability back. That Toledo hire (Beckman) set them back a decade. He wasn't even a top MAC coach and one of the weaker coaches that have coached at Toledo.

And Toledo has had plenty of bad coaches. We know it’s not the players because they annually have the no. 1 recruiting classes in the nation.

Bielma is a good hire for the Illini.

Its fun to poke fun at Toledo. Plenty of bad coaches? Besides Beckman, please tell me the rest that were bad? Going back three decades we had Nick Sabin (Alabama), Gary Pinkle (retired from Missouri), Tom Amstutz (retired from UT), Tim Beckman (fired from Illinois), Matt Campbell (Iowa State), and now Jason Candle. I would not characterize any of them as bad, but we certainly could have done better some years, no doubt about that.

Speaking of bad coaches, if you are up for a little fun you should check the standings for NIU in football, mens basketball and womens basketball. All three in last place out of every single team in the MAC. That is an amazing feat. 36 total teams in all three sports with NIU having all three of them ranked dead last. You all might have a few bad coaches on your hands right now. Happy to compare your basketball coaches to ours in both mens and womens basketball. Your AD better figure out what is wrong and fast. Wait, you might have a bad athletic director too? He made all three hires and they dont look good. Our AD Mike O'Brien has been at UT for 25 years. Bad Athletic directors dont keep their jobs that long.

If I was NIU I would be very worried about your AD and the coaches he has fired. But I guess I will worry about all of our bad coaches that seem to have winning seasons just about every single year in all three major sports.

As of this moment, I have to agree with many of the above statements. When you add basketball to the mix and overall sports success...I would rather have Toledo’s resume in some ways. Though football was quite magical in 2010-2013, it is slowly fading away and basketball has been a hair pulling, head banging frustration

Toledo is a good middle of the MAC team. Nothing more. They compete every year. I guess that’s good. Though it is impressive that they have had the nation’s #1 recruiting classes for many years.

And if some of their fans are happy with their coaches, they should read the Toledo board - particularly after losses and at the end of the season.

(12-20-2020 08:10 AM)stpeterocketfan Wrote:  

(12-20-2020 07:43 AM)stpeterocketfan Wrote:  

(12-19-2020 01:23 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  [quote='NIU05' pid='17171594' dateline='1608401747']
Bielema is a good hire for them, at the vet least he will bring respectability back. That Toledo hire (Beckman) set them back a decade. He wasn't even a top MAC coach and one of the weaker coaches that have coached at Toledo.

And Toledo has had plenty of bad coaches. We know it’s not the players because they annually have the no. 1 recruiting classes in the nation.

Bielma is a good hire for the Illini.

Its fun to poke fun at Toledo. Plenty of bad coaches? Besides Beckman, please tell me the rest that were bad? Going back three decades we had Nick Sabin (Alabama), Gary Pinkle (retired from Missouri), Tom Amstutz (retired from UT), Tim Beckman (fired from Illinois), Matt Campbell (Iowa State), and now Jason Candle. I would not characterize any of them as bad, but we certainly could have done better some years, no doubt about that.

Speaking of bad coaches, if you are up for a little fun you should check the standings for NIU in football, mens basketball and womens basketball. All three in last place out of every single team in the MAC. That is an amazing feat. 36 total teams in all three sports with NIU having all three of them ranked dead last. You all might have a few bad coaches on your hands right now. Happy to compare your basketball coaches to ours in both mens and womens basketball. Your AD better figure out what is wrong and fast. Wait, you might have a bad athletic director too? He made all three hires and they dont look good. Our AD Mike O'Brien has been at UT for 25 years. Bad Athletic directors dont keep their jobs that long.

If I was NIU I would be very worried about your AD and the coaches he has fired. But I guess I will worry about all of our bad coaches that seem to have winning seasons just about every single year in all three major sports.

Without a doubt, Tom Amstutz was my favorite. Tell me, are his gym teacher’s whistle and sweat stained 6X shirts in the Toledo Hall of Fame yet?

I think he's from Phrophetstown, IL, which means he will likely recruit Illinois hard.

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Does it seem like Illinois is the one state that top recruits rarely consider the main state school. Wisconsin usually gets all the top.players. ohio state gets ohio players etc. Illinois gets very few

(12-20-2020 11:30 AM)Dog Fan Wrote:  

(12-20-2020 08:10 AM)stpeterocketfan Wrote:  

(12-20-2020 07:43 AM)stpeterocketfan Wrote:  

(12-19-2020 01:23 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  [quote='NIU05' pid='17171594' dateline='1608401747']
Bielema is a good hire for them, at the vet least he will bring respectability back. That Toledo hire (Beckman) set them back a decade. He wasn't even a top MAC coach and one of the weaker coaches that have coached at Toledo.

And Toledo has had plenty of bad coaches. We know it’s not the players because they annually have the no. 1 recruiting classes in the nation.

Bielma is a good hire for the Illini.

Its fun to poke fun at Toledo. Plenty of bad coaches? Besides Beckman, please tell me the rest that were bad? Going back three decades we had Nick Sabin (Alabama), Gary Pinkle (retired from Missouri), Tom Amstutz (retired from UT), Tim Beckman (fired from Illinois), Matt Campbell (Iowa State), and now Jason Candle. I would not characterize any of them as bad, but we certainly could have done better some years, no doubt about that.

Speaking of bad coaches, if you are up for a little fun you should check the standings for NIU in football, mens basketball and womens basketball. All three in last place out of every single team in the MAC. That is an amazing feat. 36 total teams in all three sports with NIU having all three of them ranked dead last. You all might have a few bad coaches on your hands right now. Happy to compare your basketball coaches to ours in both mens and womens basketball. Your AD better figure out what is wrong and fast. Wait, you might have a bad athletic director too? He made all three hires and they dont look good. Our AD Mike O'Brien has been at UT for 25 years. Bad Athletic directors dont keep their jobs that long.

If I was NIU I would be very worried about your AD and the coaches he has fired. But I guess I will worry about all of our bad coaches that seem to have winning seasons just about every single year in all three major sports.

Without a doubt, Tom Amstutz was my favorite. Tell me, are his gym teacher’s whistle and sweat stained 6X shirts in the Toledo Hall of Fame yet?

He is in the UT hall of fame. He lives in Palm Harbor (near Tampa) Florida and is fit as a fiddle now.

(12-21-2020 07:11 AM)stpeterocketfan Wrote:  

(12-20-2020 11:30 AM)Dog Fan Wrote:  

(12-20-2020 08:10 AM)stpeterocketfan Wrote:  

(12-20-2020 07:43 AM)stpeterocketfan Wrote:  

(12-19-2020 01:23 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  [quote='NIU05' pid='17171594' dateline='1608401747']
Bielema is a good hire for them, at the vet least he will bring respectability back. That Toledo hire (Beckman) set them back a decade. He wasn't even a top MAC coach and one of the weaker coaches that have coached at Toledo.

And Toledo has had plenty of bad coaches. We know it’s not the players because they annually have the no. 1 recruiting classes in the nation.

Bielma is a good hire for the Illini.

Its fun to poke fun at Toledo. Plenty of bad coaches? Besides Beckman, please tell me the rest that were bad? Going back three decades we had Nick Sabin (Alabama), Gary Pinkle (retired from Missouri), Tom Amstutz (retired from UT), Tim Beckman (fired from Illinois), Matt Campbell (Iowa State), and now Jason Candle. I would not characterize any of them as bad, but we certainly could have done better some years, no doubt about that.

Speaking of bad coaches, if you are up for a little fun you should check the standings for NIU in football, mens basketball and womens basketball. All three in last place out of every single team in the MAC. That is an amazing feat. 36 total teams in all three sports with NIU having all three of them ranked dead last. You all might have a few bad coaches on your hands right now. Happy to compare your basketball coaches to ours in both mens and womens basketball. Your AD better figure out what is wrong and fast. Wait, you might have a bad athletic director too? He made all three hires and they dont look good. Our AD Mike O'Brien has been at UT for 25 years. Bad Athletic directors dont keep their jobs that long.

If I was NIU I would be very worried about your AD and the coaches he has fired. But I guess I will worry about all of our bad coaches that seem to have winning seasons just about every single year in all three major sports.

Without a doubt, Tom Amstutz was my favorite. Tell me, are his gym teacher’s whistle and sweat stained 6X shirts in the Toledo Hall of Fame yet?

He is in the UT hall of fame. He lives in Palm Harbor (near Tampa) Florida and is fit as a fiddle now.

Really?! That's great. He must have lost a lot of weight, which is wonderful. But, he won't be the real Toledo Tom unless he has all the weight. I used to love watching him run out onto the field and lead the team. Now, we just need to get Thomas Hammock to follow the Toledo Tom diet. I guess I should, too.

Bielema rode Barry's coat tails at Wisconsin and was a disaster at Arkansas. Good to see the Illness hire another retread that will be a failure. Good for them they deserve it. For all the times U of I has made NIU bend over, no way I would ever root for them. Good to see their overrated Basketball team crash over the last week as well.

(12-20-2020 10:58 AM)Dog Fan Wrote:  

(12-20-2020 10:24 AM)JB04 Wrote:  

(12-20-2020 08:10 AM)stpeterocketfan Wrote:  

(12-20-2020 07:43 AM)stpeterocketfan Wrote:  

(12-19-2020 01:23 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  [quote='NIU05' pid='17171594' dateline='1608401747']
Bielema is a good hire for them, at the vet least he will bring respectability back. That Toledo hire (Beckman) set them back a decade. He wasn't even a top MAC coach and one of the weaker coaches that have coached at Toledo.

And Toledo has had plenty of bad coaches. We know it’s not the players because they annually have the no. 1 recruiting classes in the nation.

Bielma is a good hire for the Illini.

Its fun to poke fun at Toledo. Plenty of bad coaches? Besides Beckman, please tell me the rest that were bad? Going back three decades we had Nick Sabin (Alabama), Gary Pinkle (retired from Missouri), Tom Amstutz (retired from UT), Tim Beckman (fired from Illinois), Matt Campbell (Iowa State), and now Jason Candle. I would not characterize any of them as bad, but we certainly could have done better some years, no doubt about that.

Speaking of bad coaches, if you are up for a little fun you should check the standings for NIU in football, mens basketball and womens basketball. All three in last place out of every single team in the MAC. That is an amazing feat. 36 total teams in all three sports with NIU having all three of them ranked dead last. You all might have a few bad coaches on your hands right now. Happy to compare your basketball coaches to ours in both mens and womens basketball. Your AD better figure out what is wrong and fast. Wait, you might have a bad athletic director too? He made all three hires and they dont look good. Our AD Mike O'Brien has been at UT for 25 years. Bad Athletic directors dont keep their jobs that long.

If I was NIU I would be very worried about your AD and the coaches he has fired. But I guess I will worry about all of our bad coaches that seem to have winning seasons just about every single year in all three major sports.

As of this moment, I have to agree with many of the above statements. When you add basketball to the mix and overall sports success...I would rather have Toledo’s resume in some ways. Though football was quite magical in 2010-2013, it is slowly fading away and basketball has been a hair pulling, head banging frustration

Toledo is a good middle of the MAC team. Nothing more. They compete every year. I guess that’s good. Though it is impressive that they have had the nation’s #1 recruiting classes for many years.

And if some of their fans are happy with their coaches, they should read the Toledo board - particularly after losses and at the end of the season.

you are not being fair...Toledo has won more Pre-season MAC Championships than any other MAC school..

(12-19-2020 01:33 PM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote:  I liked Lovie and thought he was helping build them back up from being awful into a team that was at least competing. But again, just competing isn't good enough. They need a team to get them to that next level, from just being in the race to winning the race.

I very much believe Bielema can be that guy to turn them into a winner again. Illinois isn't a team I cheer for, but I want someone in Illinois (other than Northwestern) to be competitive enough to establish football relevancy for our state. Sorry Dog Fan, I agree with you on most of anything. But I'm not a fan Northwestern people.

Yeah, everyone loves grandpa Moses. Proving Leo Durocher right again - nice guys finish last. Illini were dead last in the Big 10 (14). You apparently have a different definition of competitive. Blown out by 3-3 Wisc 45-7, 3-4 Minn 41-14, 4-5 Penn 56-21. Unless the race was the race to the bottom they weren't in "the race".

(12-21-2020 09:31 AM)El Duderino Wrote:  

(12-19-2020 01:33 PM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote:  I liked Lovie and thought he was helping build them back up from being awful into a team that was at least competing. But again, just competing isn't good enough. They need a team to get them to that next level, from just being in the race to winning the race.

I very much believe Bielema can be that guy to turn them into a winner again. Illinois isn't a team I cheer for, but I want someone in Illinois (other than Northwestern) to be competitive enough to establish football relevancy for our state. Sorry Dog Fan, I agree with you on most of anything. But I'm not a fan Northwestern people.

Yeah, everyone loves grandpa Moses. Proving Leo Durocher right again - nice guys finish last. Illini were dead last in the Big 10 (14). You apparently have a different definition of competitive. Blown out by 3-3 Wisc 45-7, 3-4 Minn 41-14, 4-5 Penn 56-21. Unless the race was the race to the bottom they weren't in "the race".

I bet you're fun at parties you get invited to.

(12-20-2020 07:43 AM)stpeterocketfan Wrote:  

(12-19-2020 01:23 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  

(12-19-2020 01:15 PM)NIU05 Wrote:  Bielema is a good hire for them, at the vet least he will bring respectability back. That Toledo hire (Beckman) set them back a decade. He wasn't even a top MAC coach and one of the weaker coaches that have coached at Toledo.

And Toledo has had plenty of bad coaches. We know it’s not the players because they annually have the no. 1 recruiting classes in the nation.

Bielma is a good hire for the Illini.

Its fun to poke fun at Toledo. Plenty of bad coaches? Besides Beckman, please tell me the rest that were bad? Going back three decades we had Nick Sabin (Alabama), Gary Pinkle (retired from Missouri), Tom Amstutz (retired from UT), Tim Beckman (fired from Illinois), Matt Campbell (Iowa State), and now Jason Candle. I would not characterize any of them as bad, but we certainly could have done better some years, no doubt about that.

Speaking of bad coaches, if you are up for a little fun you should check the standings for NIU in football, mens basketball and womens basketball. All three in last place out of every single team in the MAC. That is an amazing feat. 36 total teams in all three sports with NIU having all three of them ranked dead last. You all might have a few bad coaches on your hands right now. Your AD better figure out what is wrong and fast. Wait, you might have a bad athletic director too? He made all of these hires. Way to represent the league across the board!

Auch! Ouch!

(12-21-2020 12:16 PM)chihuskie Wrote:  

(12-20-2020 07:43 AM)stpeterocketfan Wrote:  

(12-19-2020 01:23 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  

(12-19-2020 01:15 PM)NIU05 Wrote:  Bielema is a good hire for them, at the vet least he will bring respectability back. That Toledo hire (Beckman) set them back a decade. He wasn't even a top MAC coach and one of the weaker coaches that have coached at Toledo.

And Toledo has had plenty of bad coaches. We know it’s not the players because they annually have the no. 1 recruiting classes in the nation.

Bielma is a good hire for the Illini.

Its fun to poke fun at Toledo. Plenty of bad coaches? Besides Beckman, please tell me the rest that were bad? Going back three decades we had Nick Sabin (Alabama), Gary Pinkle (retired from Missouri), Tom Amstutz (retired from UT), Tim Beckman (fired from Illinois), Matt Campbell (Iowa State), and now Jason Candle. I would not characterize any of them as bad, but we certainly could have done better some years, no doubt about that.

Speaking of bad coaches, if you are up for a little fun you should check the standings for NIU in football, mens basketball and womens basketball. All three in last place out of every single team in the MAC. That is an amazing feat. 36 total teams in all three sports with NIU having all three of them ranked dead last. You all might have a few bad coaches on your hands right now. Your AD better figure out what is wrong and fast. Wait, you might have a bad athletic director too? He made all of these hires. Way to represent the league across the board!

Auch! Ouch!

Woof.