We are spoiled from having Dorceus, Henderson, Taylor, Pollard and Gibson and we don't have any RBs on the radar that I know of that are that good.

The guys we have now can't take it to the house. I think we have had one or two runs of 40 plus yards this year.

(11-30-2020 06:14 AM)Crazier Wrote:  

(11-29-2020 09:24 AM)micman Wrote:  We need to eliminate the RPO from our offense (as long as Brady is the QB). Just go straight run or straight pass. Brady is so much better when he's just passing the ball.

Bingo! I been saying that since Norvell. He is no run threat at all so there is no option.

No kidding. Waste of time and effort. Like fish in December, Defenses aren't biting.

(11-30-2020 12:48 PM)Tiger46 Wrote:  We are spoiled from having Dorceus, Henderson, Taylor, Pollard and Gibson and we don't have any RBs on the radar that I know of that are that good.

The guys we have now can't take it to the house. I think we have had one or two runs of 40 plus yards this year.

We may be a little spoiled by those backs in the past, but my eyeball test is still telling me the bigger drop off is in the positions between the offensive tackles, than the actual drop off at the back position.

Isn’t much a RB can do when he is constantly either being met in the backfield with an unblocked defender or his own lineman being push back into the space he needs to make cuts.

Now I think maybe our play calling could improve to run more toss sweeps or jet sweeps to try to get them in space more to make plays vs the constant between the tackles calls.

(11-30-2020 03:09 PM)hk25 Wrote:  

(11-30-2020 12:48 PM)Tiger46 Wrote:  We are spoiled from having Dorceus, Henderson, Taylor, Pollard and Gibson and we don't have any RBs on the radar that I know of that are that good.

The guys we have now can't take it to the house. I think we have had one or two runs of 40 plus yards this year.

We may be a little spoiled by those backs in the past, but my eyeball test is still telling me the bigger drop off is in the positions between the offensive tackles, than the actual drop off at the back position.

Isn’t much a RB can do when he is constantly either being met in the backfield with an unblocked defender or his own lineman being push back into the space he needs to make cuts.


Now I think maybe our play calling could improve to run more toss sweeps or jet sweeps to try to get them in space more to make plays vs the constant between the tackles calls.

Agreed. I think we miss Woodard and Dill. It looked like to me we were running straight into blitzes a few times.Try pitches, reverses, screens, anything besides straight hand offs.

(11-30-2020 03:09 PM)hk25 Wrote:  

(11-30-2020 12:48 PM)Tiger46 Wrote:  We are spoiled from having Dorceus, Henderson, Taylor, Pollard and Gibson and we don't have any RBs on the radar that I know of that are that good.

The guys we have now can't take it to the house. I think we have had one or two runs of 40 plus yards this year.

We may be a little spoiled by those backs in the past, but my eyeball test is still telling me the bigger drop off is in the positions between the offensive tackles, than the actual drop off at the back position.

Isn’t much a RB can do when he is constantly either being met in the backfield with an unblocked defender or his own lineman being push back into the space he needs to make cuts.

Now I think maybe our play calling could improve to run more toss sweeps or jet sweeps to try to get them in space more to make plays vs the constant between the tackles calls.

Weaver runs blind and isn't a blazer...

Clark has good vision but isn't fast either.

The only back I have seen who has high level speed is Timothy Taylor.

(11-30-2020 07:39 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(11-30-2020 03:09 PM)hk25 Wrote:  

(11-30-2020 12:48 PM)Tiger46 Wrote:  We are spoiled from having Dorceus, Henderson, Taylor, Pollard and Gibson and we don't have any RBs on the radar that I know of that are that good.

The guys we have now can't take it to the house. I think we have had one or two runs of 40 plus yards this year.

We may be a little spoiled by those backs in the past, but my eyeball test is still telling me the bigger drop off is in the positions between the offensive tackles, than the actual drop off at the back position.

Isn’t much a RB can do when he is constantly either being met in the backfield with an unblocked defender or his own lineman being push back into the space he needs to make cuts.

Now I think maybe our play calling could improve to run more toss sweeps or jet sweeps to try to get them in space more to make plays vs the constant between the tackles calls.

Weaver runs blind and isn't a blazer...

Clark has good vision but isn't fast either.

The only back I have seen who has high level speed is Timothy Taylor.

This. I would like to see more of Taylor. We need his speed.

(11-29-2020 12:01 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(11-29-2020 09:24 AM)micman Wrote:  We need to eliminate the RPO from our offense (as long as Brady is the QB). Just go straight run or straight pass. Brady is so much better when he's just passing the ball.

I think you are misusing your terms

RPO - Run Pass Option = Hand the ball to the running back or QB pulls and Passes the ball.

Read Option - Hand the ball off or the QB pulls and throws the ball

Iiiiiii seeeee.... So the difference is between passing and throwing the ball. Now I got it...

(11-30-2020 11:48 AM)Titans3775 Wrote:  Based on the Navy game, Asa Martin appears to be the best we have and Clark should be his backup. Clark and others just don't have that "it" factor that our previous running backs had. Martin consistently got positive yards while Weaver and Watkins struggled. The rest should play in garbage time.

Weaver slows down when getting to the line, waiting for a hole to open up. Hate to tell ya, Weaver, but this line ain't opening up holes that are not already there, and all you are doing is allowing the weak-side pursuit to get there and tackle you.

You have to hit the line full-steam ahead, MAYBE one cut, and what you get is what you get. This is not high school anymore. These linebackers in this conference are not going to sit there and wait on you.

What ever happened to the those bubble screen passes out to sides and letting out RBs catch it with 3 blockers in front of them....man Henderson and Gainwell would be gone on those plays!

(12-01-2020 01:32 AM)PennyWise Wrote:  What ever happened to the those bubble screen passes out to sides and letting out RBs catch it with 3 blockers in front of them....man Henderson and Gainwell would be gone on those plays!

The first defender isn't missing.

(11-30-2020 09:51 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(11-30-2020 11:48 AM)Titans3775 Wrote:  Based on the Navy game, Asa Martin appears to be the best we have and Clark should be his backup. Clark and others just don't have that "it" factor that our previous running backs had. Martin consistently got positive yards while Weaver and Watkins struggled. The rest should play in garbage time.

Weaver slows down when getting to the line, waiting for a hole to open up. Hate to tell ya, Weaver, but this line ain't opening up holes that are not already there, and all you are doing is allowing the weak-side pursuit to get there and tackle you.

You have to hit the line full-steam ahead, MAYBE one cut, and what you get is what you get. This is not high school anymore. These linebackers in this conference are not going to sit there and wait on you.

Yep.

Watkins is actually getting better about dancing around, but he still hasn't maxed his potential yet.
I like what Asa did this week, but he's evidently not winning the battles in practice.
Nonetheless, based upon gameday observations, I go with:
Martin
Clark
Taylor
Watkins

(12-01-2020 02:36 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(12-01-2020 01:32 AM)PennyWise Wrote:  What ever happened to the those bubble screen passes out to sides and letting out RBs catch it with 3 blockers in front of them....man Henderson and Gainwell would be gone on those plays!

The first defender isn't missing.

Our little WRs are not blocking as well this year

(11-29-2020 11:45 AM)k2tigers Wrote:  

(11-29-2020 05:13 AM)holyterror Wrote:  I never heard-was Clark unavailable?

announcers mentioned it in first half....he didn't even make the trip

Wolo pregame said Clark, Javon Ivory, and the punter Adam Williams were all unavailable.
He got one of them right.

(12-01-2020 11:11 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(11-29-2020 11:45 AM)k2tigers Wrote:  

(11-29-2020 05:13 AM)holyterror Wrote:  I never heard-was Clark unavailable?

announcers mentioned it in first half....he didn't even make the trip

Wolo pregame said Clark, Javon Ivory, and the punter Adam Williams were all unavailable.
He got one of them right.