Volkmar
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RE: West Div Technicality: UAB needs game next week
(11-26-2020 10:29 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote: (11-26-2020 09:48 PM)Volkmar Wrote: (11-26-2020 06:17 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote: (11-26-2020 11:11 AM)Volkmar Wrote: (11-26-2020 06:12 AM)blazr Wrote: After USM canceled our game Friday, we only have 1 conf game left: @Rice 12/12. That puts us at 4 w/ 5 being the minimum to qualify for West Division title. Our AD is supposed to be working with CUSA offices. Looks like our options are UTSA (would be a rematch), WKU (another rematch), or MTSU. If we beat Rice on the 12th, we would be at 3-1...the only 1-loss team in the West.
I really hope a school steps up or CUSA can shuffle some things around.
If anyone didn't put an asterisk on this season before it began then they're not paying attention. But I don't think anyone wants a team denied the chance to win a title due to COVID-related cancellations. Am I right? Maybe some of you do. I don't think any UAB fans would want a West title, either, having just played 4 games.
If UTSA beats UNT this weekend, we would be 5-2, the only 5-win team in the West. Tit for tat. I would love to have another shot at UAB now that we're more healthy again at the QB position. The question would be where it would be played... at UAB again, at our Alamodome, or at a neutral site (which would virtually guarantee an almost empty stadium).
At any rate, I think we all knew from the outset that this was probably gonna be an effed up season, with all sorts of twists and turns, including the conference championship scenarios. Given that we had 7 wins in the last two years combined, I'm happy just to see us in the position we're in to begin with, especially with all the injuries we sustained by playing 8 games without a bye.
Not gonna lie when I say that it would be a bit of a downer if we're snubbed for a division title due to a COVID-related, end-of-season numbers game. It would far more upsetting to me if we lose to UNT, finish 6-5, and get snubbed for a bowl with an above .500 record for the 2nd time in 4 years though. So whatever ends up happening with this weird scenario, IF we beat UNT to go 7-4 (5-2), I think we're basically guaranteed a bowl and I'd be cool with that, regardless of whether or not we have a shot for a West title.
This is the kind of stuff that drives the animosity between our schools. Don't think for a second North Texas wouldn't like to repay UTSA for costing us that western division title back in 2013.
Plus, as crazy as it sounds, UNT sill has an outside shot at this year's western division title. But, North Texas can't lose or miss another game on our schedule. Due to both programs having so much to play for, I expect a very hard fought game Saturday.
My statement had nothing whatsoever to do with UNT. If our next opponent were USM, Rice, UTEP, anyone in the West, I'd have said the same thing, because it didn't feel good to go 6-5 in 2017 and not get invited into a bowl. When you're trying to build a program as we are, every bowl invitation is huge and probably goes farther for us than it does for someone who already has a lot of history and tradition.
You guys were 5-7 just the year before that and you did get in. I get that it sometimes boils down to circumstance and fortune/misfortune, but I'd rather not leave it to chance again. Yeah, we cost you guys the division title in 2013, but you still went to a bowl game that year and won it, so it's not as though your home loss to us ended the season for you. Those two things you're trying to compare are just not the same.
Besides, we missed out on a bowl in 2013 despite going 7-5 because we hadn't been in FBS long enough, just as we missed out on another bowl in 2012 when we went 8-4 in the WAC because we hadn't been an FBS program for enough years yet. Basically, every year we've finished with a winning record so far (2012, 2013, 2017), we were denied a bowl bid. How many FBS teams can say that? Imagine how frustrating that would be for a new program trying to build a reputation and leave a mark. It's not easy finding success when you build a program from scratch and jump right into FBS in year two, and it's even harder when you have yet to even be rewarded for any of your winning seasons. Hopefully the 4th one will be the charm this year, but I like our chances much better at 7-4 than at 6-5.
I was mostly referring to the divisional title race, and how we could ruin it for UTSA.
The NCAA already waived the 6 win criteria for going bowling. I think UTSA gets a bowl regardless of how the Saturday goes. Plus, the New Mexico Bowl relocated to Frisco for this season, so their is another bowl game in Texas. Due to COVID, I could certainly see bowls looking for more regional teams. If UTSA doesn't earn a bowl bid I'll be shocked.
You may be shocked, but some in our ranks wouldn't. As far as waiving the 6-win criteria, that just means others who've played only half the season can still get in before us. That doesn't give me much comfort.
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