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RE: West Div Technicality: UAB needs game next week
(11-26-2020 08:35 PM)HERDDDDD Wrote:  So UAB has 1 game but needs 2, let’s assume they schedule one. if just ONE of UABs next two games are cancelled (which is very possible) then they don’t qualify for the CCG?

UTSA would win the west if they don’t lose.

LaTech still has an outside shot but needs one of UABs games to be cancelled or UAB to lose one game, and UTSA to lose a game. That’s kinda a long shot.

Is that basically the west race?

We've played 3. We had USM scheduled for tomorrow but they had COVID issues. We have @Rice scheduled for 12/12. Even if that Rice game gets played we'll have only played 4 conf games when 5 is the minimum. So, yes, UAB is eliminated on a technicality.
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RE: West Div Technicality: UAB needs game next week
(11-26-2020 06:17 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(11-26-2020 11:11 AM)Volkmar Wrote:  
(11-26-2020 06:12 AM)blazr Wrote:  After USM canceled our game Friday, we only have 1 conf game left: @Rice 12/12. That puts us at 4 w/ 5 being the minimum to qualify for West Division title. Our AD is supposed to be working with CUSA offices. Looks like our options are UTSA (would be a rematch), WKU (another rematch), or MTSU. If we beat Rice on the 12th, we would be at 3-1...the only 1-loss team in the West.

I really hope a school steps up or CUSA can shuffle some things around.

If anyone didn't put an asterisk on this season before it began then they're not paying attention. But I don't think anyone wants a team denied the chance to win a title due to COVID-related cancellations. Am I right? Maybe some of you do. I don't think any UAB fans would want a West title, either, having just played 4 games.

If UTSA beats UNT this weekend, we would be 5-2, the only 5-win team in the West. Tit for tat. I would love to have another shot at UAB now that we're more healthy again at the QB position. The question would be where it would be played... at UAB again, at our Alamodome, or at a neutral site (which would virtually guarantee an almost empty stadium).

At any rate, I think we all knew from the outset that this was probably gonna be an effed up season, with all sorts of twists and turns, including the conference championship scenarios. Given that we had 7 wins in the last two years combined, I'm happy just to see us in the position we're in to begin with, especially with all the injuries we sustained by playing 8 games without a bye.

Not gonna lie when I say that it would be a bit of a downer if we're snubbed for a division title due to a COVID-related, end-of-season numbers game. It would far more upsetting to me if we lose to UNT, finish 6-5, and get snubbed for a bowl with an above .500 record for the 2nd time in 4 years though. So whatever ends up happening with this weird scenario, IF we beat UNT to go 7-4 (5-2), I think we're basically guaranteed a bowl and I'd be cool with that, regardless of whether or not we have a shot for a West title.

This is the kind of stuff that drives the animosity between our schools. Don't think for a second North Texas wouldn't like to repay UTSA for costing us that western division title back in 2013. 03-hissyfit

Plus, as crazy as it sounds, UNT sill has an outside shot at this year's western division title. But, North Texas can't lose or miss another game on our schedule. Due to both programs having so much to play for, I expect a very hard fought game Saturday. 04-cheers

My statement had nothing whatsoever to do with UNT. If our next opponent were USM, Rice, UTEP, anyone in the West, I'd have said the same thing, because it didn't feel good to go 6-5 in 2017 and not get invited to a bowl. When you're trying to build a program as we are, every bowl invitation is huge and probably goes farther for us than it does for someone who already has a lot of history and tradition. After all, we're still trying to build ours.

Heck, as you already mentioned earlier in this thread, you guys went bowling the year before that (2016) with a record of 5-7. I get that it sometimes boils down to circumstance and fortune/misfortune, but I'd rather not leave it to chance again. Yeah, we cost you guys the division title in 2013, but you still went to a bowl game that year and won it, so it's not as though your home loss to us ended the season for you. Those two things you're trying to compare are just not the same.

We missed out on a bowl in 2013 despite going 7-5 because we hadn't been in FBS long enough, just as we missed out on another bowl in 2012 when we went 8-4 in the WAC because we hadn't been an FBS program for enough years yet. Basically, every year we've finished with a winning record so far (2012, 2013, 2017), we were denied a bowl bid. How many FBS teams can say that? Imagine how frustrating that would be for a new program trying to build a reputation and leave a mark. It's not easy finding success when you build a program from scratch and jump right into FBS in year two, and it's even harder when you have yet to even be rewarded for any of your winning seasons. Hopefully the 4th winning season will be the charm this year, but I like our chances much better at 7-4 than at 6-5.
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RE: West Div Technicality: UAB needs game next week
(11-26-2020 08:43 PM)blazr Wrote:  
(11-26-2020 08:35 PM)HERDDDDD Wrote:  So UAB has 1 game but needs 2, let’s assume they schedule one. if just ONE of UABs next two games are cancelled (which is very possible) then they don’t qualify for the CCG?

UTSA would win the west if they don’t lose.

LaTech still has an outside shot but needs one of UABs games to be cancelled or UAB to lose one game, and UTSA to lose a game. That’s kinda a long shot.

Is that basically the west race?

We've played 3. We had USM scheduled for tomorrow but they had COVID issues. We have @Rice scheduled for 12/12. Even if that Rice game gets played we'll have only played 4 conf games when 5 is the minimum. So, yes, UAB is eliminated on a technicality.
If the SEC rule is followed, the USM game counts as played toward the minimum because the cancellation was not caused by UAB.

The conference office could have cleared this up weeks ago by publicly releasing the full guidelines as the SEC and other conferences did. Once again...(crickets).
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RE: West Div Technicality: UAB needs game next week
(11-26-2020 09:48 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  
(11-26-2020 06:17 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(11-26-2020 11:11 AM)Volkmar Wrote:  
(11-26-2020 06:12 AM)blazr Wrote:  After USM canceled our game Friday, we only have 1 conf game left: @Rice 12/12. That puts us at 4 w/ 5 being the minimum to qualify for West Division title. Our AD is supposed to be working with CUSA offices. Looks like our options are UTSA (would be a rematch), WKU (another rematch), or MTSU. If we beat Rice on the 12th, we would be at 3-1...the only 1-loss team in the West.

I really hope a school steps up or CUSA can shuffle some things around.

If anyone didn't put an asterisk on this season before it began then they're not paying attention. But I don't think anyone wants a team denied the chance to win a title due to COVID-related cancellations. Am I right? Maybe some of you do. I don't think any UAB fans would want a West title, either, having just played 4 games.

If UTSA beats UNT this weekend, we would be 5-2, the only 5-win team in the West. Tit for tat. I would love to have another shot at UAB now that we're more healthy again at the QB position. The question would be where it would be played... at UAB again, at our Alamodome, or at a neutral site (which would virtually guarantee an almost empty stadium).

At any rate, I think we all knew from the outset that this was probably gonna be an effed up season, with all sorts of twists and turns, including the conference championship scenarios. Given that we had 7 wins in the last two years combined, I'm happy just to see us in the position we're in to begin with, especially with all the injuries we sustained by playing 8 games without a bye.

Not gonna lie when I say that it would be a bit of a downer if we're snubbed for a division title due to a COVID-related, end-of-season numbers game. It would far more upsetting to me if we lose to UNT, finish 6-5, and get snubbed for a bowl with an above .500 record for the 2nd time in 4 years though. So whatever ends up happening with this weird scenario, IF we beat UNT to go 7-4 (5-2), I think we're basically guaranteed a bowl and I'd be cool with that, regardless of whether or not we have a shot for a West title.

This is the kind of stuff that drives the animosity between our schools. Don't think for a second North Texas wouldn't like to repay UTSA for costing us that western division title back in 2013. 03-hissyfit

Plus, as crazy as it sounds, UNT sill has an outside shot at this year's western division title. But, North Texas can't lose or miss another game on our schedule. Due to both programs having so much to play for, I expect a very hard fought game Saturday. 04-cheers

My statement had nothing whatsoever to do with UNT. If our next opponent were USM, Rice, UTEP, anyone in the West, I'd have said the same thing, because it didn't feel good to go 6-5 in 2017 and not get invited into a bowl. When you're trying to build a program as we are, every bowl invitation is huge and probably goes farther for us than it does for someone who already has a lot of history and tradition.

You guys were 5-7 just the year before that and you did get in. I get that it sometimes boils down to circumstance and fortune/misfortune, but I'd rather not leave it to chance again. Yeah, we cost you guys the division title in 2013, but you still went to a bowl game that year and won it, so it's not as though your home loss to us ended the season for you. Those two things you're trying to compare are just not the same.

Besides, we missed out on a bowl in 2013 despite going 7-5 because we hadn't been in FBS long enough, just as we missed out on another bowl in 2012 when we went 8-4 in the WAC because we hadn't been an FBS program for enough years yet. Basically, every year we've finished with a winning record so far (2012, 2013, 2017), we were denied a bowl bid. Hopefully the 4th one will be the charm this year, but I like our chances much better at 7-4 than at 6-5.

I was mostly referring to the divisional title race, and how we could ruin it for UTSA.

The NCAA already waived the 6 win criteria for going bowling. I think UTSA gets a bowl regardless of how the Saturday goes. Plus, the New Mexico Bowl relocated to Frisco for this season, so their is another bowl game in Texas. Due to COVID, I could certainly see bowls looking for more regional teams. If UTSA doesn't earn a bowl bid I'll be shocked.
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RE: West Div Technicality: UAB needs game next week
(11-26-2020 10:29 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(11-26-2020 09:48 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  
(11-26-2020 06:17 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(11-26-2020 11:11 AM)Volkmar Wrote:  
(11-26-2020 06:12 AM)blazr Wrote:  After USM canceled our game Friday, we only have 1 conf game left: @Rice 12/12. That puts us at 4 w/ 5 being the minimum to qualify for West Division title. Our AD is supposed to be working with CUSA offices. Looks like our options are UTSA (would be a rematch), WKU (another rematch), or MTSU. If we beat Rice on the 12th, we would be at 3-1...the only 1-loss team in the West.

I really hope a school steps up or CUSA can shuffle some things around.

If anyone didn't put an asterisk on this season before it began then they're not paying attention. But I don't think anyone wants a team denied the chance to win a title due to COVID-related cancellations. Am I right? Maybe some of you do. I don't think any UAB fans would want a West title, either, having just played 4 games.

If UTSA beats UNT this weekend, we would be 5-2, the only 5-win team in the West. Tit for tat. I would love to have another shot at UAB now that we're more healthy again at the QB position. The question would be where it would be played... at UAB again, at our Alamodome, or at a neutral site (which would virtually guarantee an almost empty stadium).

At any rate, I think we all knew from the outset that this was probably gonna be an effed up season, with all sorts of twists and turns, including the conference championship scenarios. Given that we had 7 wins in the last two years combined, I'm happy just to see us in the position we're in to begin with, especially with all the injuries we sustained by playing 8 games without a bye.

Not gonna lie when I say that it would be a bit of a downer if we're snubbed for a division title due to a COVID-related, end-of-season numbers game. It would far more upsetting to me if we lose to UNT, finish 6-5, and get snubbed for a bowl with an above .500 record for the 2nd time in 4 years though. So whatever ends up happening with this weird scenario, IF we beat UNT to go 7-4 (5-2), I think we're basically guaranteed a bowl and I'd be cool with that, regardless of whether or not we have a shot for a West title.

This is the kind of stuff that drives the animosity between our schools. Don't think for a second North Texas wouldn't like to repay UTSA for costing us that western division title back in 2013. 03-hissyfit

Plus, as crazy as it sounds, UNT sill has an outside shot at this year's western division title. But, North Texas can't lose or miss another game on our schedule. Due to both programs having so much to play for, I expect a very hard fought game Saturday. 04-cheers

My statement had nothing whatsoever to do with UNT. If our next opponent were USM, Rice, UTEP, anyone in the West, I'd have said the same thing, because it didn't feel good to go 6-5 in 2017 and not get invited into a bowl. When you're trying to build a program as we are, every bowl invitation is huge and probably goes farther for us than it does for someone who already has a lot of history and tradition.

You guys were 5-7 just the year before that and you did get in. I get that it sometimes boils down to circumstance and fortune/misfortune, but I'd rather not leave it to chance again. Yeah, we cost you guys the division title in 2013, but you still went to a bowl game that year and won it, so it's not as though your home loss to us ended the season for you. Those two things you're trying to compare are just not the same.

Besides, we missed out on a bowl in 2013 despite going 7-5 because we hadn't been in FBS long enough, just as we missed out on another bowl in 2012 when we went 8-4 in the WAC because we hadn't been an FBS program for enough years yet. Basically, every year we've finished with a winning record so far (2012, 2013, 2017), we were denied a bowl bid. How many FBS teams can say that? Imagine how frustrating that would be for a new program trying to build a reputation and leave a mark. It's not easy finding success when you build a program from scratch and jump right into FBS in year two, and it's even harder when you have yet to even be rewarded for any of your winning seasons. Hopefully the 4th one will be the charm this year, but I like our chances much better at 7-4 than at 6-5.

I was mostly referring to the divisional title race, and how we could ruin it for UTSA.

The NCAA already waived the 6 win criteria for going bowling. I think UTSA gets a bowl regardless of how the Saturday goes. Plus, the New Mexico Bowl relocated to Frisco for this season, so their is another bowl game in Texas. Due to COVID, I could certainly see bowls looking for more regional teams. If UTSA doesn't earn a bowl bid I'll be shocked.

You may be shocked, but some in our ranks wouldn't. As far as waiving the 6-win criteria, that just means others who've played only half the season can still get in before us. That doesn't give me much comfort.
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RE: West Div Technicality: UAB needs game next week
(11-26-2020 08:35 PM)HERDDDDD Wrote:  So UAB has 1 game but needs 2, let’s assume they schedule one. if just ONE of UABs next two games are cancelled (which is very possible) then they don’t qualify for the CCG?

UTSA would win the west if they don’t lose.

LaTech still has an outside shot but needs one of UABs games to be cancelled or UAB to lose one game, and UTSA to lose a game. That’s kinda a long shot.

Is that basically the west race?

North Texas has a chance too. They have 2 conference losses and would be 4-2 in CUSA if they get past @UTSA and home vs La Tech. If the Green can win through they should play @UAB on 12/12 in what would be a winner-takes-all for the West. NT is currently scheduled to play UTEP on 12/12, but the Miners have other games they can make up on that date.
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(11-26-2020 10:37 PM)Curtzilla Wrote:  
(11-26-2020 08:35 PM)HERDDDDD Wrote:  So UAB has 1 game but needs 2, let’s assume they schedule one. if just ONE of UABs next two games are cancelled (which is very possible) then they don’t qualify for the CCG?

UTSA would win the west if they don’t lose.

LaTech still has an outside shot but needs one of UABs games to be cancelled or UAB to lose one game, and UTSA to lose a game. That’s kinda a long shot.

Is that basically the west race?

North Texas has a chance too. They have 2 conference losses and would be 4-2 in CUSA if they get past @UTSA and home vs La Tech. If the Green can win through they should play @UAB on 12/12 in what would be a winner-takes-all for the West. NT is currently scheduled to play UTEP on 12/12, but the Miners have other games they can make up on that date.

And we have Rice on 12/12. One thing the conference is not going to do is shuffle things around to get a virtual playoff. Hell, they can't even keep all the pieces on the board week-to-week (and that's not totally their fault). People forget that the conference is a voluntary association. They can't just go to the teams and say, "Ok, Rice and UTEP, you are playing 12/12. UAB and UNT, get ready for a showdown." While they have mismanaged their part, it is true that the first step in resolving any of this is between the schools themselves.
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(11-26-2020 09:48 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  
(11-26-2020 06:17 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(11-26-2020 11:11 AM)Volkmar Wrote:  
(11-26-2020 06:12 AM)blazr Wrote:  After USM canceled our game Friday, we only have 1 conf game left: @Rice 12/12. That puts us at 4 w/ 5 being the minimum to qualify for West Division title. Our AD is supposed to be working with CUSA offices. Looks like our options are UTSA (would be a rematch), WKU (another rematch), or MTSU. If we beat Rice on the 12th, we would be at 3-1...the only 1-loss team in the West.

I really hope a school steps up or CUSA can shuffle some things around.

If anyone didn't put an asterisk on this season before it began then they're not paying attention. But I don't think anyone wants a team denied the chance to win a title due to COVID-related cancellations. Am I right? Maybe some of you do. I don't think any UAB fans would want a West title, either, having just played 4 games.

If UTSA beats UNT this weekend, we would be 5-2, the only 5-win team in the West. Tit for tat. I would love to have another shot at UAB now that we're more healthy again at the QB position. The question would be where it would be played... at UAB again, at our Alamodome, or at a neutral site (which would virtually guarantee an almost empty stadium).

At any rate, I think we all knew from the outset that this was probably gonna be an effed up season, with all sorts of twists and turns, including the conference championship scenarios. Given that we had 7 wins in the last two years combined, I'm happy just to see us in the position we're in to begin with, especially with all the injuries we sustained by playing 8 games without a bye.

Not gonna lie when I say that it would be a bit of a downer if we're snubbed for a division title due to a COVID-related, end-of-season numbers game. It would far more upsetting to me if we lose to UNT, finish 6-5, and get snubbed for a bowl with an above .500 record for the 2nd time in 4 years though. So whatever ends up happening with this weird scenario, IF we beat UNT to go 7-4 (5-2), I think we're basically guaranteed a bowl and I'd be cool with that, regardless of whether or not we have a shot for a West title.

This is the kind of stuff that drives the animosity between our schools. Don't think for a second North Texas wouldn't like to repay UTSA for costing us that western division title back in 2013. 03-hissyfit

Plus, as crazy as it sounds, UNT sill has an outside shot at this year's western division title. But, North Texas can't lose or miss another game on our schedule. Due to both programs having so much to play for, I expect a very hard fought game Saturday. 04-cheers

My statement had nothing whatsoever to do with UNT. If our next opponent were USM, Rice, UTEP, anyone in the West, I'd have said the same thing, because it didn't feel good to go 6-5 in 2017 and not get invited to a bowl. When you're trying to build a program as we are, every bowl invitation is huge and probably goes farther for us than it does for someone who already has a lot of history and tradition. After all, we're still trying to build ours.

Heck, as you already mentioned earlier in this thread, you guys went bowling the year before that (2016) with a record of 5-7. I get that it sometimes boils down to circumstance and fortune/misfortune, but I'd rather not leave it to chance again. Yeah, we cost you guys the division title in 2013, but you still went to a bowl game that year and won it, so it's not as though your home loss to us ended the season for you. Those two things you're trying to compare are just not the same.

We missed out on a bowl in 2013 despite going 7-5 because we hadn't been in FBS long enough, just as we missed out on another bowl in 2012 when we went 8-4 in the WAC because we hadn't been an FBS program for enough years yet. Basically, every year we've finished with a winning record so far (2012, 2013, 2017), we were denied a bowl bid. How many FBS teams can say that? Imagine how frustrating that would be for a new program trying to build a reputation and leave a mark. It's not easy finding success when you build a program from scratch and jump right into FBS in year two, and it's even harder when you have yet to even be rewarded for any of your winning seasons. Hopefully the 4th winning season will be the charm this year, but I like our chances much better at 7-4 than at 6-5.

Boo hoo...do a little research before you post such a misinformed question. Teams with 9-2 and 9-3 records and some quality wins have been passed over for bowls.
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(11-27-2020 06:38 AM)Tech80 Wrote:  
(11-26-2020 09:48 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  
(11-26-2020 06:17 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(11-26-2020 11:11 AM)Volkmar Wrote:  
(11-26-2020 06:12 AM)blazr Wrote:  After USM canceled our game Friday, we only have 1 conf game left: @Rice 12/12. That puts us at 4 w/ 5 being the minimum to qualify for West Division title. Our AD is supposed to be working with CUSA offices. Looks like our options are UTSA (would be a rematch), WKU (another rematch), or MTSU. If we beat Rice on the 12th, we would be at 3-1...the only 1-loss team in the West.

I really hope a school steps up or CUSA can shuffle some things around.

If anyone didn't put an asterisk on this season before it began then they're not paying attention. But I don't think anyone wants a team denied the chance to win a title due to COVID-related cancellations. Am I right? Maybe some of you do. I don't think any UAB fans would want a West title, either, having just played 4 games.

If UTSA beats UNT this weekend, we would be 5-2, the only 5-win team in the West. Tit for tat. I would love to have another shot at UAB now that we're more healthy again at the QB position. The question would be where it would be played... at UAB again, at our Alamodome, or at a neutral site (which would virtually guarantee an almost empty stadium).

At any rate, I think we all knew from the outset that this was probably gonna be an effed up season, with all sorts of twists and turns, including the conference championship scenarios. Given that we had 7 wins in the last two years combined, I'm happy just to see us in the position we're in to begin with, especially with all the injuries we sustained by playing 8 games without a bye.

Not gonna lie when I say that it would be a bit of a downer if we're snubbed for a division title due to a COVID-related, end-of-season numbers game. It would far more upsetting to me if we lose to UNT, finish 6-5, and get snubbed for a bowl with an above .500 record for the 2nd time in 4 years though. So whatever ends up happening with this weird scenario, IF we beat UNT to go 7-4 (5-2), I think we're basically guaranteed a bowl and I'd be cool with that, regardless of whether or not we have a shot for a West title.

This is the kind of stuff that drives the animosity between our schools. Don't think for a second North Texas wouldn't like to repay UTSA for costing us that western division title back in 2013. 03-hissyfit

Plus, as crazy as it sounds, UNT sill has an outside shot at this year's western division title. But, North Texas can't lose or miss another game on our schedule. Due to both programs having so much to play for, I expect a very hard fought game Saturday. 04-cheers

My statement had nothing whatsoever to do with UNT. If our next opponent were USM, Rice, UTEP, anyone in the West, I'd have said the same thing, because it didn't feel good to go 6-5 in 2017 and not get invited to a bowl. When you're trying to build a program as we are, every bowl invitation is huge and probably goes farther for us than it does for someone who already has a lot of history and tradition. After all, we're still trying to build ours.

Heck, as you already mentioned earlier in this thread, you guys went bowling the year before that (2016) with a record of 5-7. I get that it sometimes boils down to circumstance and fortune/misfortune, but I'd rather not leave it to chance again. Yeah, we cost you guys the division title in 2013, but you still went to a bowl game that year and won it, so it's not as though your home loss to us ended the season for you. Those two things you're trying to compare are just not the same.

We missed out on a bowl in 2013 despite going 7-5 because we hadn't been in FBS long enough, just as we missed out on another bowl in 2012 when we went 8-4 in the WAC because we hadn't been an FBS program for enough years yet. Basically, every year we've finished with a winning record so far (2012, 2013, 2017), we were denied a bowl bid. How many FBS teams can say that? Imagine how frustrating that would be for a new program trying to build a reputation and leave a mark. It's not easy finding success when you build a program from scratch and jump right into FBS in year two, and it's even harder when you have yet to even be rewarded for any of your winning seasons. Hopefully the 4th winning season will be the charm this year, but I like our chances much better at 7-4 than at 6-5.

Boo hoo...do a little research before you post such a misinformed question. Teams with 9-2 and 9-3 records and some quality wins have been passed over for bowls.

You do realize I phrased that in question form because I didn't know the answer, right?
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LOL....I hope UAB is disqualified from the championship game. You had the opportunity to play us earlier in the year and wouldn't do it. KARMA!
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RE: West Div Technicality: UAB needs game next week
(11-27-2020 11:24 AM)herdfan129 Wrote:  LOL....I hope UAB is disqualified from the championship game. You had the opportunity to play us earlier in the year and wouldn't do it. KARMA!

We’d be sitting in the same boat except with 2 losses. I don’t blame the staff at all for not wanting to head to Marshall at that point in the season.
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West Div Technicality: UAB needs game next week
(11-27-2020 11:24 AM)herdfan129 Wrote:  LOL....I hope UAB is disqualified from the championship game. You had the opportunity to play us earlier in the year and wouldn't do it. KARMA!


Since you were in the AD’s office, was Marshall waiting on BYU’s response and let UAB go to voice mail?


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RE: West Div Technicality: UAB needs game next week
(11-27-2020 12:03 PM)blazr Wrote:  
(11-27-2020 11:24 AM)herdfan129 Wrote:  LOL....I hope UAB is disqualified from the championship game. You had the opportunity to play us earlier in the year and wouldn't do it. KARMA!


Since you were in the AD’s office, was Marshall waiting on BYU’s response and let UAB go to voice mail?


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I was told by the AD office that a game with UAB was close to being announced back in late October. If fell through because UAB wanted in in Birmingham. That made no sense because, at the time, it was to fill the Rice void, which was a home game for us and a road game for UAB.

You played your hand and it looks like it will cost you. Of course I think there’s no way FIU will play us so we are counting on Rice to show up or we will be in the same boat.
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RE: West Div Technicality: UAB needs game next week
Cry me a River. Well play another game and end up at Marshall in a championship game unless we both tank.
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(11-27-2020 01:07 PM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  Cry me a River. Well play another game and end up at Marshall in a championship game unless we both tank.

In case you didn’t notice, it was a UAB fan that started this thread and Marshall fans laughing, not crying, at the premise because it is of your administration’s doing.
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(11-26-2020 06:12 AM)blazr Wrote:  After USM canceled our game Friday, we only have 1 conf game left: @Rice 12/12. That puts us at 4 w/ 5 being the minimum to qualify for West Division title. Our AD is supposed to be working with CUSA offices. Looks like our options are UTSA (would be a rematch), WKU (another rematch), or MTSU. If we beat Rice on the 12th, we would be at 3-1...the only 1-loss team in the West.

I really hope a school steps up or CUSA can shuffle some things around.

If anyone didn't put an asterisk on this season before it began then they're not paying attention. But I don't think anyone wants a team denied the chance to win a title due to COVID-related cancellations. Am I right? Maybe some of you do. I don't think any UAB fans would want a West title, either, having just played 4 games.

Yeah this is a real mess, I certainly feel for you guys. My sons HS football team was left out of the Georgia 6-A playoffs, due to this exact reason, They finished 4-2 in their region and they were replaced by a team that finished 4-3 because they were able to play one more region game. (there were no dates available to reschedule that 7th region game, as their bye was the 5th week of the season, the game they missed as fate would have was the 6th week when their opponent reported Covid issues.)
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Oh and UAB didn’t turn down a game at Marshall. You got bad info. ;-)
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RE: West Div Technicality: UAB needs game next week
Turns out UAB doesn't actually need a game next weekend and this was an argument about...well, nothing.

According to details revealed today (see picture and link below), such a game and victory wouldn't make one bit of difference in deciding UAB's fate in the west. UAB wins the West by winning percentage as long as they win out. UAB loses a game and there is no scenario that allows the Blazers to win the west, regardless of whether there is an additional win not. With a loss, UAB loses on percentage or head-to-head to any other school that finishes with two losses and also loses out on winning percentage to possible 3 loss teams should they end up as the only 2 loss team, because of the lesser number of conference games played. The only reason to play a game next weekend would be to provide a cushion should Rice refuse to play again on 12/12.

I personally warned our AD about this possible situation in October and urged them to be proactive and to schedule additional conference games, if possible, as UTSA did with MTSU. But they "trusted" the conference office to take care of things...and here we are.

I have broken down all of UAB's realistic scenarios on Blazertalk. https://csnbbs.com/thread-911265-post-17...id17120530
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RE: West Div Technicality: UAB needs game next week
Until there is an official release from the conference office and not just a quote from an unidentified C-USA spokesperson, I don't trust anything.

This is the first time anything has ever been mentioned of "no less than two fewer conference games than the average number...." The previous notice had "one fewer conference game" like all other conferences are using that have published their guidelines.

Way past time that the C-USA office was held accountable for its inconsistency and lack of transparency which dates back long before Louisiana Tech joined in 2013.
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RE: West Div Technicality: UAB needs game next week
Honestly, at this point I think, every team in the west, know they are playing for a *west division title and a 17 to 24 point loss in the championship game...

the 17 is if Marshall, gets a 24 point lead and Doc, goes into prevent mode of running out the clock. The west team scores a late TD. If it happens to be UAB ...

Doc might not shut it down so early and Marshall shows why UAB knew what they were doing when they ducked out of a earlier season game
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