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This was posted in The Shocker Faithful facebook group yesterday. Rather interesting and given how long this is taking to come to a conclusion makes you continue to wonder where is this going.

Copied from another poster: I spoke in detail with a dear client of mine today that happens to be a prominent figure not only in our city, but for WSU/Mens Bball and our coach. I wont name names, but all of you know his name and the value it holds in the program. He encourages us all to wait for an official statement and has confidence in the possiblity of coach staying and working through this. He and several other dominant figures helped outline a potental process to keep Marshall. He also informed me of a clause in Gregg's contract that protects him from being fired without specific processes being met in writing.... That has NOT happened.
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Local media is reporting he was not at practice Monday, Tuesday or today. Wednesday was a scheduled day off. University spokesperson only will say he has been gone due to "personal reasons"
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(11-11-2020 05:10 PM)GoShox7 Wrote:  [Image: nzIbbJc.png]

FWIW, they escort you out with security at a lot of state jobs, at least in NC...
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(11-12-2020 02:16 PM)Nameless Wrote:  
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(11-12-2020 12:19 PM)Nameless Wrote:  
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(11-11-2020 10:10 PM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  Stupid Move... WSU just became irrelevant!

CBS' independent confirmation of Goodman's story, whose original story was also backed up independently by the Wichita Eagle, seems to be the last nail in the coffin for Marshall.

It's sad. No gloating here. We need as many good teams in this conference as we can get. Now Wichita gets the Jim Calhoun/UConn test. Let's all hope they pass it.


How exactly does one define "passing" said test? If they win a national championship this year or next, but struggle to reach .500 and are basically a total failure of a program after that, have they passed the test?

I just hope they don't have 4-5 down seasons, then decide to go back to the MVC to be with their old rivals just as they start to get good again 04-cheers

I thought the answer was obvious. Passing the test means regaining some consistent semblance of the past glory attained by the single iconic coach no longer there.

UConn is still taking its test, lol. Ollie was a flop, even though he won a natty right out of the gate. Now Hurley seems to be going in the right direction. But it's a long way back to anything close to the top of the mountain.

Wheaters haven't even started yet, lol, so who knows. It's by definition a long process, unless you catch lightning in a bottle. I thought UConn had it with the 2014 natty, but then no.

And as of this minute, Marshall isn't even officially gone.

Sorry, you mentioned UConn so I had to take the opportunity to take a dig at my own team lol. The question was more in jest. I do find it to be an interesting question though, especially in WSU's situation since they're looking for their first natty still.

If they did get a natty in year one or two, but then kept having sub .500 seasons, would that count as a successful hire? Would someone who came in and got them to the tourney almost every year but never had any deep runs be considered a more successful hire? It kind of highlights the subjectivity of what "success" is. I guess it's ultimately up to the fans to decide, but still interesting to think about if they do end up in a coaching search, which seems more and more likely.

Wichita State will probably take a short term hit. The good news though, is they're actually in a better situation than we were when Cal left Memphis.

Cal took a program that had lost its luster and brought Memphis back to their best time in history. Replacing him was hard because nobody wanted to follow that act. We ended up settling on a videographer for a coach.

Wichita is firing Marshall for cause. That leaves them with quite a few options for their next coach. I think they'll land a good one again.

They have a great fanbase, excellent history, excellent facilities, etc. They're the only act in town, and the town loves them.

They'll be fine.
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(11-12-2020 07:58 PM)Chappy Wrote:  
(11-11-2020 05:10 PM)GoShox7 Wrote:  [Image: nzIbbJc.png]

FWIW, they escort you out with security at a lot of state jobs, at least in NC...

Since I posted that it does not seem credible at all that it happened. So many unknowns right now and everything thathas been posted is pure speculation by everyone.
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Has missed practice all this week.

https://www.kansas.com/sports/college/wi...58444.html
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Ron Baker went on the 4 SZNS NBA Podcast and gave a brief comment on the Gregg Marshall situation and the boosters supporting Gregg.

"They weren't in the gym when those things were happening...there will definitely be a time where I think I'll get into it more in depth"
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Marshall beats Wichita State!



Oh wait, we're not talking about the NCAA tournament are we?



.....this is awkward....
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So, inquiring minds want to know - Is this thread title accurate? A Google search only shows me articles saying that Marshall is "expected to be fired". Now I know that messageboard truth is an oxymoron, but how much of this thread is fact and how much is just speculation?

Can anyone cite an actual news article confirming Marshall's firing?
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(11-12-2020 07:58 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  
(11-12-2020 02:16 PM)Nameless Wrote:  
(11-12-2020 02:07 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(11-12-2020 12:19 PM)Nameless Wrote:  
(11-11-2020 11:36 PM)TripleA Wrote:  CBS' independent confirmation of Goodman's story, whose original story was also backed up independently by the Wichita Eagle, seems to be the last nail in the coffin for Marshall.

It's sad. No gloating here. We need as many good teams in this conference as we can get. Now Wichita gets the Jim Calhoun/UConn test. Let's all hope they pass it.


How exactly does one define "passing" said test? If they win a national championship this year or next, but struggle to reach .500 and are basically a total failure of a program after that, have they passed the test?

I just hope they don't have 4-5 down seasons, then decide to go back to the MVC to be with their old rivals just as they start to get good again 04-cheers

I thought the answer was obvious. Passing the test means regaining some consistent semblance of the past glory attained by the single iconic coach no longer there.

UConn is still taking its test, lol. Ollie was a flop, even though he won a natty right out of the gate. Now Hurley seems to be going in the right direction. But it's a long way back to anything close to the top of the mountain.

Wheaters haven't even started yet, lol, so who knows. It's by definition a long process, unless you catch lightning in a bottle. I thought UConn had it with the 2014 natty, but then no.

And as of this minute, Marshall isn't even officially gone.

Sorry, you mentioned UConn so I had to take the opportunity to take a dig at my own team lol. The question was more in jest. I do find it to be an interesting question though, especially in WSU's situation since they're looking for their first natty still.

If they did get a natty in year one or two, but then kept having sub .500 seasons, would that count as a successful hire? Would someone who came in and got them to the tourney almost every year but never had any deep runs be considered a more successful hire? It kind of highlights the subjectivity of what "success" is. I guess it's ultimately up to the fans to decide, but still interesting to think about if they do end up in a coaching search, which seems more and more likely.

Wichita State will probably take a short term hit. The good news though, is they're actually in a better situation than we were when Cal left Memphis.

Cal took a program that had lost its luster and brought Memphis back to their best time in history. Replacing him was hard because nobody wanted to follow that act. We ended up settling on a videographer for a coach.

Wichita is firing Marshall for cause. That leaves them with quite a few options for their next coach. I think they'll land a good one again.

They have a great fanbase, excellent history, excellent facilities, etc. They're the only act in town, and the town loves them.

They'll be fine.

From what I remember, Scott Drew actually campaigned for the job, was offered, and was prepared to sign the contract. Someone tipped off the Commercial Appeal, and Geoff Caulkins came out with an absolutely disgraceful hit-piece the very next day. At that point, either R.C. Johnson got cold feet and rescinded the offer or Drew backed out.

Interesting to think what could have been.
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(11-14-2020 09:26 AM)EvilLore Wrote:  
(11-12-2020 07:58 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  
(11-12-2020 02:16 PM)Nameless Wrote:  
(11-12-2020 02:07 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(11-12-2020 12:19 PM)Nameless Wrote:  [/b]

How exactly does one define "passing" said test? If they win a national championship this year or next, but struggle to reach .500 and are basically a total failure of a program after that, have they passed the test?

I just hope they don't have 4-5 down seasons, then decide to go back to the MVC to be with their old rivals just as they start to get good again 04-cheers

I thought the answer was obvious. Passing the test means regaining some consistent semblance of the past glory attained by the single iconic coach no longer there.

UConn is still taking its test, lol. Ollie was a flop, even though he won a natty right out of the gate. Now Hurley seems to be going in the right direction. But it's a long way back to anything close to the top of the mountain.

Wheaters haven't even started yet, lol, so who knows. It's by definition a long process, unless you catch lightning in a bottle. I thought UConn had it with the 2014 natty, but then no.

And as of this minute, Marshall isn't even officially gone.

Sorry, you mentioned UConn so I had to take the opportunity to take a dig at my own team lol. The question was more in jest. I do find it to be an interesting question though, especially in WSU's situation since they're looking for their first natty still.

If they did get a natty in year one or two, but then kept having sub .500 seasons, would that count as a successful hire? Would someone who came in and got them to the tourney almost every year but never had any deep runs be considered a more successful hire? It kind of highlights the subjectivity of what "success" is. I guess it's ultimately up to the fans to decide, but still interesting to think about if they do end up in a coaching search, which seems more and more likely.

Wichita State will probably take a short term hit. The good news though, is they're actually in a better situation than we were when Cal left Memphis.

Cal took a program that had lost its luster and brought Memphis back to their best time in history. Replacing him was hard because nobody wanted to follow that act. We ended up settling on a videographer for a coach.

Wichita is firing Marshall for cause. That leaves them with quite a few options for their next coach. I think they'll land a good one again.

They have a great fanbase, excellent history, excellent facilities, etc. They're the only act in town, and the town loves them.

They'll be fine.

From what I remember, Scott Drew actually campaigned for the job, was offered, and was prepared to sign the contract. Someone tipped off the Commercial Appeal, and Geoff Caulkins came out with an absolutely disgraceful hit-piece the very next day. At that point, either R.C. Johnson got cold feet and rescinded the offer or Drew backed out.

Interesting to think what could have been.

Eh, I don't think Drew's that great of a coach.

The only reason he's doing well now is that he has the unlimited cheating resources of scummy Baylor.
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(11-14-2020 09:26 AM)EvilLore Wrote:  
(11-12-2020 07:58 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  
(11-12-2020 02:16 PM)Nameless Wrote:  
(11-12-2020 02:07 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(11-12-2020 12:19 PM)Nameless Wrote:  [/b]

How exactly does one define "passing" said test? If they win a national championship this year or next, but struggle to reach .500 and are basically a total failure of a program after that, have they passed the test?

I just hope they don't have 4-5 down seasons, then decide to go back to the MVC to be with their old rivals just as they start to get good again 04-cheers

I thought the answer was obvious. Passing the test means regaining some consistent semblance of the past glory attained by the single iconic coach no longer there.

UConn is still taking its test, lol. Ollie was a flop, even though he won a natty right out of the gate. Now Hurley seems to be going in the right direction. But it's a long way back to anything close to the top of the mountain.

Wheaters haven't even started yet, lol, so who knows. It's by definition a long process, unless you catch lightning in a bottle. I thought UConn had it with the 2014 natty, but then no.

And as of this minute, Marshall isn't even officially gone.

Sorry, you mentioned UConn so I had to take the opportunity to take a dig at my own team lol. The question was more in jest. I do find it to be an interesting question though, especially in WSU's situation since they're looking for their first natty still.

If they did get a natty in year one or two, but then kept having sub .500 seasons, would that count as a successful hire? Would someone who came in and got them to the tourney almost every year but never had any deep runs be considered a more successful hire? It kind of highlights the subjectivity of what "success" is. I guess it's ultimately up to the fans to decide, but still interesting to think about if they do end up in a coaching search, which seems more and more likely.

Wichita State will probably take a short term hit. The good news though, is they're actually in a better situation than we were when Cal left Memphis.

Cal took a program that had lost its luster and brought Memphis back to their best time in history. Replacing him was hard because nobody wanted to follow that act. We ended up settling on a videographer for a coach.

Wichita is firing Marshall for cause. That leaves them with quite a few options for their next coach. I think they'll land a good one again.

They have a great fanbase, excellent history, excellent facilities, etc. They're the only act in town, and the town loves them.

They'll be fine.

From what I remember, Scott Drew actually campaigned for the job, was offered, and was prepared to sign the contract. Someone tipped off the Commercial Appeal, and Geoff Caulkins came out with an absolutely disgraceful hit-piece the very next day. At that point, either R.C. Johnson got cold feet and rescinded the offer or Drew backed out.

Interesting to think what could have been.

Thanks for bringing that up. I forgot about it.
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(11-14-2020 09:26 AM)EvilLore Wrote:  
(11-12-2020 07:58 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  
(11-12-2020 02:16 PM)Nameless Wrote:  
(11-12-2020 02:07 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(11-12-2020 12:19 PM)Nameless Wrote:  [/b]

How exactly does one define "passing" said test? If they win a national championship this year or next, but struggle to reach .500 and are basically a total failure of a program after that, have they passed the test?

I just hope they don't have 4-5 down seasons, then decide to go back to the MVC to be with their old rivals just as they start to get good again 04-cheers

I thought the answer was obvious. Passing the test means regaining some consistent semblance of the past glory attained by the single iconic coach no longer there.

UConn is still taking its test, lol. Ollie was a flop, even though he won a natty right out of the gate. Now Hurley seems to be going in the right direction. But it's a long way back to anything close to the top of the mountain.

Wheaters haven't even started yet, lol, so who knows. It's by definition a long process, unless you catch lightning in a bottle. I thought UConn had it with the 2014 natty, but then no.

And as of this minute, Marshall isn't even officially gone.

Sorry, you mentioned UConn so I had to take the opportunity to take a dig at my own team lol. The question was more in jest. I do find it to be an interesting question though, especially in WSU's situation since they're looking for their first natty still.

If they did get a natty in year one or two, but then kept having sub .500 seasons, would that count as a successful hire? Would someone who came in and got them to the tourney almost every year but never had any deep runs be considered a more successful hire? It kind of highlights the subjectivity of what "success" is. I guess it's ultimately up to the fans to decide, but still interesting to think about if they do end up in a coaching search, which seems more and more likely.

Wichita State will probably take a short term hit. The good news though, is they're actually in a better situation than we were when Cal left Memphis.

Cal took a program that had lost its luster and brought Memphis back to their best time in history. Replacing him was hard because nobody wanted to follow that act. We ended up settling on a videographer for a coach.

Wichita is firing Marshall for cause. That leaves them with quite a few options for their next coach. I think they'll land a good one again.

They have a great fanbase, excellent history, excellent facilities, etc. They're the only act in town, and the town loves them.

They'll be fine.

From what I remember, Scott Drew actually campaigned for the job, was offered, and was prepared to sign the contract. Someone tipped off the Commercial Appeal, and Geoff Caulkins came out with an absolutely disgraceful hit-piece the very next day. At that point, either R.C. Johnson got cold feet and rescinded the offer or Drew backed out.

Interesting to think what could have been.

I disagree on the second paragraph. I'm glad we passed on Drew.

But you do have the story essentially right. Both sides claim they withdrew first, but best I can tell, RC did.
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Doug Wojcik is tanned, rested and ready. And he’s probably completed that anger management course by now.
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Marshall still not fired, lol. Why can't they make a decision? Either fire him or not already.
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(11-15-2020 11:37 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Marshall still not fired, lol. Why can't they make a decision? Either fire him or not already.

They are actually waiting to see if there is basketball season
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(11-15-2020 11:37 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Marshall still not fired, lol. Why can't they make a decision? Either fire him or not already.

They are actually waiting to see if there is basketball season

News flash. There will be a basketball season. In some way, shape, format. Just like there was a football season.

You guys have 3 consecutive games scheduled starting in 10 days.
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Fans are very restless and frustrated that there has been nothing communicated. Seems rediculous the way the university is handling this but none of us knows what is going on behind closed doors so we wait in suspense until something breaks. Its tough there has not even been a hint of when we might hear something.
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(11-15-2020 09:49 PM)GoShox7 Wrote:  Fans are very restless and frustrated that there has been nothing communicated. Seems rediculous the way the university is handling this but none of us knows what is going on behind closed doors so we wait in suspense until something breaks. Its tough there has not even been a hint of when we might hear something.

I agree. Weird, no matter what happens.
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Since no one can confirm if Marshall has been fired, can anyone confirm the team is practicing & who is leading those practices?
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