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RE: More bowl games cancelled: Hawai'i and Bahamas
Updated Cancel

Hawaii ...... MW, AAC

Bahamas ... CUSA, MAC

Redbox ...... PAC, B1G

Holiday ...... PAC, ACC

Fenway ...... Now in Montgomery for 2020

Detroit ....... B1G, MAC

One thing, I do think the NCAA should have done. Reward teams in Pools with 6 games wins an assured spot instead of saying APR is the only thing needed this year. It would be wrong to leave any 6 win team out that is in a pool that does not have an official tie-in to allow a team that played less games and has losing record to go.
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Updated Cancellation list

Hawaii ...... MW, AAC

Bahamas ... CUSA, MAC

Redbox ...... PAC, B1G

Holiday ...... PAC, ACC

Fenway ...... Now in Montgomery for 2020

Detroit ....... B1G, MAC

New Mexico ...Moved to Frisco, TX for 2020

Pinstripe ......ACC, B1G
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RE: More bowl games cancelled: Hawai'i and Bahamas
(11-27-2020 11:50 AM)f1do Wrote:  FIFY

Updated Cancellation list

Hawaii ...... Big kahuna Burger

Bahamas ... McChicken

Redbox ...... Filet O Fish

Holiday ...... Double Stack

Fenway ...... Big MICK

Detroit ....... B1G MAC

New Mexico ...Quarter-pounder

Pinstripe ......Whopper
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(11-27-2020 11:50 AM)f1do Wrote:  Updated Cancellation list

Hawaii ...... MW, AAC

Bahamas ... CUSA, MAC

Redbox ...... PAC, B1G

Holiday ...... PAC, ACC

Fenway ...... Now in Montgomery for 2020

Detroit ....... B1G, MAC

New Mexico ...Moved to Frisco, TX for 2020

Pinstripe ......ACC, B1G

Given that the Pinstripe is in New York, its cancelation was a foregone conclusion. Still sad though.
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(11-01-2020 04:58 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  One thing, I do think the NCAA should have done. Reward teams in Pools with 6 games wins an assured spot instead of saying APR is the only thing needed this year. It would be wrong to leave any 6 win team out that is in a pool that does not have an official tie-in to allow a team that played less games and has losing record to go.

I imagine conference ties are going to decide who goes and who does not. Everyone with good APR is eligible for a bowl this year so a lot will stay home.

As of now we know 14 teams that usually would play in bowls will not go bowling this year. That's a lot, and we aren't done with this yet.
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(10-23-2020 07:44 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(10-23-2020 07:07 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  
(10-23-2020 07:41 AM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  
(10-23-2020 06:52 AM)Crayton Wrote:  Holiday Bowl in sunny San Diego cancelled:

https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...s-pandemic

Bowls are no fun without games like this.

Bowls are no fun for players who are mostly confined to hotel rooms for a week and are playing in front of no fans.

I don't really see the point of bowls this year.

1. 15 more days of practice. I want it for my team.
2. Football players want to play football. For many of these guys, it's a last chance to strap it on, with the added benefit of tours, aiding local charities etc. I bet they still want to do it.

Not true this year. This year doesn't count as a year of eligibility for anyone.
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RE: More bowl games cancelled: Hawai'i and Bahamas
(11-28-2020 12:01 PM)MidnightBlueGold Wrote:  
(10-23-2020 07:44 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(10-23-2020 07:07 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  
(10-23-2020 07:41 AM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  
(10-23-2020 06:52 AM)Crayton Wrote:  Holiday Bowl in sunny San Diego cancelled:

https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...s-pandemic

Bowls are no fun without games like this.

Bowls are no fun for players who are mostly confined to hotel rooms for a week and are playing in front of no fans.

I don't really see the point of bowls this year.

1. 15 more days of practice. I want it for my team.
2. Football players want to play football. For many of these guys, it's a last chance to strap it on, with the added benefit of tours, aiding local charities etc. I bet they still want to do it.

Not true this year. This year doesn't count as a year of eligibility for anyone.

That doesn’t mean they will return for that extra year. If you get a degree and you’re not headed to the NFL, maybe you want to start your career as you had planned
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(11-28-2020 12:18 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  
(11-28-2020 12:01 PM)MidnightBlueGold Wrote:  
(10-23-2020 07:44 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(10-23-2020 07:07 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  
(10-23-2020 07:41 AM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  Bowls are no fun without games like this.

Bowls are no fun for players who are mostly confined to hotel rooms for a week and are playing in front of no fans.

I don't really see the point of bowls this year.

1. 15 more days of practice. I want it for my team.
2. Football players want to play football. For many of these guys, it's a last chance to strap it on, with the added benefit of tours, aiding local charities etc. I bet they still want to do it.

Not true this year. This year doesn't count as a year of eligibility for anyone.

That doesn’t mean they will return for that extra year. If you get a degree and you’re not headed to the NFL, maybe you want to start your career as you had planned
Or you take advantage of the opportunity and go to grad school.
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(11-28-2020 12:18 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  
(11-28-2020 12:01 PM)MidnightBlueGold Wrote:  
(10-23-2020 07:44 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(10-23-2020 07:07 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  
(10-23-2020 07:41 AM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  Bowls are no fun without games like this.

Bowls are no fun for players who are mostly confined to hotel rooms for a week and are playing in front of no fans.

I don't really see the point of bowls this year.

1. 15 more days of practice. I want it for my team.
2. Football players want to play football. For many of these guys, it's a last chance to strap it on, with the added benefit of tours, aiding local charities etc. I bet they still want to do it.

Not true this year. This year doesn't count as a year of eligibility for anyone.

That doesn’t mean they will return for that extra year. If you get a degree and you’re not headed to the NFL, maybe you want to start your career as you had planned

Soooo, it is still not their last chance. That is their choice to come back or not. If they want to play another game, they can.
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(11-28-2020 04:04 PM)MidnightBlueGold Wrote:  
(11-28-2020 12:18 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  
(11-28-2020 12:01 PM)MidnightBlueGold Wrote:  
(10-23-2020 07:44 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(10-23-2020 07:07 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  Bowls are no fun for players who are mostly confined to hotel rooms for a week and are playing in front of no fans.

I don't really see the point of bowls this year.

1. 15 more days of practice. I want it for my team.
2. Football players want to play football. For many of these guys, it's a last chance to strap it on, with the added benefit of tours, aiding local charities etc. I bet they still want to do it.

Not true this year. This year doesn't count as a year of eligibility for anyone.

That doesn’t mean they will return for that extra year. If you get a degree and you’re not headed to the NFL, maybe you want to start your career as you had planned

Soooo, it is still not their last chance. That is their choice to come back or not. If they want to play another game, they can.

Navy lens - this year's 26 seniors will be USMC 2LTs and Navy Ensigns this time next year, even if they have a COVID-year of eligibility in their pockets.
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I'm interested to see what BYU announces on 12/12 (the last scheduled game at home) as far as honoring "seniors". DB Chris Wilcox has already come out and said he graduated last summer and would make a run at the NFL so won't be returning. There is a handful of guys who will have eligibility left due to covid-exception or otherwise who are expected to jump for the NFL (QB Wilson, OL Christensen, Hoge, and probably Empey, DL Tonga, etc.). They usually only honor those on that last day who are not planning to return.
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Wouldn't it be neat if some of these bowl games can be used to match up some teams that missed out on cross-conference rivalry games? Like say pitting Louisville vs Kentucky in the Music City Bowl?

Yes, I think it would be, LOL.

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(11-29-2020 01:31 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Wouldn't it be neat if some of these bowl games can be used to match up some teams that missed out on cross-conference rivalry games? Like say pitting Louisville vs Kentucky in the Music City Bowl?

Yes, I think it would be, LOL.

07-coffee3

IIRC, the SEC actually has a rule about that: Bowl games with SEC tie-ins can't match an SEC team with an in-state opponent unless the SEC team agrees.
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(11-28-2020 12:01 PM)MidnightBlueGold Wrote:  
(10-23-2020 07:44 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(10-23-2020 07:07 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  
(10-23-2020 07:41 AM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  
(10-23-2020 06:52 AM)Crayton Wrote:  Holiday Bowl in sunny San Diego cancelled:

https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...s-pandemic

Bowls are no fun without games like this.

Bowls are no fun for players who are mostly confined to hotel rooms for a week and are playing in front of no fans.

I don't really see the point of bowls this year.

1. 15 more days of practice. I want it for my team.
2. Football players want to play football. For many of these guys, it's a last chance to strap it on, with the added benefit of tours, aiding local charities etc. I bet they still want to do it.

Not true this year. This year doesn't count as a year of eligibility for anyone.

It's true if you play for a service academy, as the guy who posted that represents.
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(11-29-2020 01:31 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Wouldn't it be neat if some of these bowl games can be used to match up some teams that missed out on cross-conference rivalry games? Like say pitting Louisville vs Kentucky in the Music City Bowl?

Yes, I think it would be, LOL.

07-coffee3

I’d be a fan of this happening
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https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/statu...6344271874

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Liberty may not receive bowl bid even though Flames could finish 10-1, sources told @Stadium. Reason is LU doesn't have guaranteed bowl tie-in & w/out any win requirements for teams to be bowl eligible, bowls expected to fill w/their designated conference affiliations source said
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(11-30-2020 10:27 AM)f1do Wrote:  https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/statu...6344271874

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Liberty may not receive bowl bid even though Flames could finish 10-1, sources told @Stadium. Reason is LU doesn't have guaranteed bowl tie-in & w/out any win requirements for teams to be bowl eligible, bowls expected to fill w/their designated conference affiliations source said

Yes, we already know that their are 7 fewer bowls, meaning 14 fewer slots, than normal, and more bowl cancelations are likely. That's almost 20% fewer slots and counting.

IIRC, the Liberty and ESPN deal means ESPN can place Liberty in these bowls:

Boca Raton Bowl
Camellia Bowl
Famous Idaho Potato Bowl
Frisco Bowl
Myrtle Beach Bowl
New Mexico Bowl

The good news is, so far, none of these have been canceled. Bad news is this is a secondary arrangement, meaning Liberty only will be placed if a conference tied to a bowl cannot fill its slot. But the NCAA has basically made everyone not on APR or infractions probation bowl-eligible. The virus could work in Liberty's favor, causing teams to maybe cancel their bowl appearance such that Liberty could possibly step in at the last minute. But it looks dicey for them.
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Liberty may not receive bowl bid even though Flames could finish 10-1, sources told @Stadium. Reason is LU doesn't have guaranteed bowl tie-in & w/out any win requirements for teams to be bowl eligible, bowls expected to fill w/their designated conference affiliations source said
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(11-30-2020 10:56 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  @Brett_McMurphy
Liberty may not receive bowl bid even though Flames could finish 10-1, sources told @Stadium. Reason is LU doesn't have guaranteed bowl tie-in & w/out any win requirements for teams to be bowl eligible, bowls expected to fill w/their designated conference affiliations source said

Yes, see the two posts before yours. :)
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(11-30-2020 10:37 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(11-30-2020 10:27 AM)f1do Wrote:  https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/statu...6344271874

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Liberty may not receive bowl bid even though Flames could finish 10-1, sources told @Stadium. Reason is LU doesn't have guaranteed bowl tie-in & w/out any win requirements for teams to be bowl eligible, bowls expected to fill w/their designated conference affiliations source said

Yes, we already know that their are 7 fewer bowls, meaning 14 fewer slots, than normal, and more bowl cancelations are likely. That's almost 20% fewer slots and counting.

IIRC, the Liberty and ESPN deal means ESPN can place Liberty in these bowls:

Boca Raton Bowl
Camellia Bowl
Famous Idaho Potato Bowl
Frisco Bowl
Myrtle Beach Bowl
New Mexico Bowl

The good news is, so far, none of these have been canceled. Bad news is this is a secondary arrangement, meaning Liberty only will be placed if a conference tied to a bowl cannot fill its slot. But the NCAA has basically made everyone not on APR or infractions probation bowl-eligible. The virus could work in Liberty's favor, causing teams to maybe cancel their bowl appearance such that Liberty could possibly step in at the last minute. But it looks dicey for them.

Because of canceled bowls, there will be other schools that would normally be bowl eligible without a place to land. Is there anything from stopping a couple of available schools from simply scheduling a late December game against each other?
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