Thread is on thin ice right now.

I get it.. this is a sensitive topic.

For it to not to make it into the Spin Room, I need folks to try and make serious posts going forward. Memes and .gifs don't help the conversation. Sometimes a response is a lived response, so try to respond accordingly with a level of respect even if you disagree or are not aware of different backgrounds existing. Not everyone here has the same life experience.

Does Texas State have any candidates in mind? With this investigation taking several months there must be a short list. But then again Larry Teis is your AD, and we all know how you guys feel about him.

There are absolutely things that can be said that are totally offensive, and should not be used in civilized society. The line between what can be said and shouldn't be said can be very blurry. Unfortunately, the bar for what is "offensive" to some has plummeted in recent times. I believe a large portion of those today that perceive things as offensive do it by choice. It is their choice to be offended by it. If they don't like it, they can choose to not be offended by it. That solve a lot of problems and would be more appropriate than to beat someone into submission or ruin their life. There is a very good book that I read years ago called "The Four Agreements." It discusses self limiting beliefs that rob us of joy and creates needless suffering. One of them is "Don't take things personally." I think this is the same thing as people being offended by microaggressions or whatever other non "PC" subjects. I wish more people would take heed to this. In regards to Kaspar, I'm not making a judgement since I wasn't there to hear what he said.

So let me get this straight. Texas States starting point guard transferred out last year and indicated it was due feeling the head coach fostered racial bias, a claim that was supported by other former players and an internal investigation was done by the school. And you guys think this guy should keep his ******* job?!!??!?!? Y'all are nuts.

(09-23-2020 11:50 AM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  There are absolutely things that can be said that are totally offensive, and should not be used in civilized society. The line between what can be said and shouldn't be said can be very blurry. Unfortunately, the bar for what is "offensive" to some has plummeted in recent times. I believe a large portion of those today that perceive things as offensive do it by choice. It is their choice to be offended by it. If they don't like it, they can choose to not be offended by it. That solve a lot of problems and would be more appropriate than to beat someone into submission or ruin their life. There is a very good book that I read years ago called "The Four Agreements." It discusses self limiting beliefs that rob us of joy and creates needless suffering. One of them is "Don't take things personally." I think this is the same thing as people being offended by microaggressions or whatever other non "PC" subjects. I wish more people would take heed to this. In regards to Kaspar, I'm not making a judgement since I wasn't there to hear what he said.

Correct, and you can weaponize offense or pretend offense against people that you don't like. This mess with Kaspar came up in the middle of when everyone was scared out of their minds to not be seen as insensitive.

(09-23-2020 11:57 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  

(09-23-2020 11:50 AM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  There are absolutely things that can be said that are totally offensive, and should not be used in civilized society. The line between what can be said and shouldn't be said can be very blurry. Unfortunately, the bar for what is "offensive" to some has plummeted in recent times. I believe a large portion of those today that perceive things as offensive do it by choice. It is their choice to be offended by it. If they don't like it, they can choose to not be offended by it. That solve a lot of problems and would be more appropriate than to beat someone into submission or ruin their life. There is a very good book that I read years ago called "The Four Agreements." It discusses self limiting beliefs that rob us of joy and creates needless suffering. One of them is "Don't take things personally." I think this is the same thing as people being offended by microaggressions or whatever other non "PC" subjects. I wish more people would take heed to this. In regards to Kaspar, I'm not making a judgement since I wasn't there to hear what he said.

Correct, and you can weaponize offense or pretend offense to people that you don't like. This mess with Kaspar came up in the middle of when everyone was scared out of their minds to not be seen as insensitive.

And you have evidence that this is the case with Caspar or are you just predisposed to believe that in every case of alleged racism?

I really do wish this conversation could've happened years ago when everything wasn't so polarized in this country. We could've possibly found middle ground somewhere.

I think for this situation, the things he said could've easily been avoided. There are millions of words and different ways you can send a message without involving racial/sexual stereotypes. For example if you want your players to run faster, all you have to say is "run faster or we are going to run bleachers." That is simple and effective enough to get the players to get a move on. More importantly, it's not offensive. Now it's possible that Kaspar came from a time where this was "acceptable" but that is not an excuse to not adapt to changes.

I also think in general, everyone needs to be more empathetic and try to think in another's shoes. If people just had enough patience to think in that perspective, our country would not be the way it is now. Honestly, everybody just needs to do better. We need to calm down, have reasonable discussions, and try to find a way to create changes to avoid future mistakes. I'm tired of seeing anger and insults thrown at each other. It's just going to create more division and it doesn't create any progression in a conversation. It just worries me but it's not too late to fix things.

The name calling in this thread continues and I’m going to flip a coin and send it to a random board and leave it unlocked for only Seminole Indian to post in

Water almost went though my nose...lmao

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(09-23-2020 11:47 AM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  Does Texas State have any candidates in mind? With this investigation taking several months there must be a short list. But then again Larry Teis is your AD, and we all know how you guys feel about him.

Nope. The assistant coach will be interim this season and they will go from there.

i think the definition of racism, which should be consistent because we have books and websites where we keep such things, varies greatly from person to person. allowing words and phrases to change meaning quickly and frequently only makes reaching middle ground more difficult.

definitions can evolve, but the majority of a population should be casually aware of the change before it's made 'official'.

hail southern

The real challenge we have is that language is okay for certain people and not for others and if you make the mistake of assuming certain language will be received with it's "obvious" intent you risk everything. No matter if common purpose drives you. Dudes life's work is now worthless and some are happy about it. Think about that.

Oh, God...make it stop...

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Too many people look at the extreme caricatures of PC culture and act like that's what happens all the time. It's not. Most of us white guys really aren't in danger in this movement. Yep, it's weird that if I sing along with Lizzo, there are words that I'm not "supposed to" say. But WTF do I care? Am I really going to be outraged that others don't want to hear me say the N-word? I'll focus my anxieties elsewhere. The extreme implications of "cancel culture" can surely suck, but it's largely become this bogeyman that gets thrown around to scare folks into thinking political correctness is going to ruin their lives. Be a genuine person and try to see others' points of view, and it usually works out just fine.

Perhaps all people should refrain from using certain words and/or images.

Should a decedent of a southern solider in the civil war be allowed to fly the battle flag as a symbol of their heritage without the connotation of being portrayed as an image of racism? If your answer is no, perhaps NO ONE should use racist terms in any setting. Or said a different way any person that does should receive similar public perception "punishment". Society drives behavior and normalizing using words/images enables further divide.

We should concentrate on viewing each other an individuals not groups of people that we put into buckets that all think/feel/act alike.

(09-23-2020 11:56 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  So let me get this straight. Texas States starting point guard transferred out last year and indicated it was due feeling the head coach fostered racial bias, a claim that was supported by other former players and an internal investigation was done by the school. And you guys think this guy should keep his ******* job?!!??!?!? Y'all are nuts.

He was so racist that he offered said walk-on a full scholarship and a job as a GA after the next season. He was so racist that for every former player that said he had racially insensitive comments, he had 10 former players say that he was absolutely not racist in any way.

(09-24-2020 03:21 PM)tx.state Wrote:  

(09-23-2020 11:56 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  So let me get this straight. Texas States starting point guard transferred out last year and indicated it was due feeling the head coach fostered racial bias, a claim that was supported by other former players and an internal investigation was done by the school. And you guys think this guy should keep his ******* job?!!??!?!? Y'all are nuts.

He was so racist that he offered said walk-on a full scholarship and a job as a GA after the next season. He was so racist that for every former player that said he had racially insensitive comments, he had 10 former players say that he was absolutely not racist in any way.

It only takes one accusation against someone of his demographic and it negates a lifetime of good deeds. Those are the rules of the game now. You can either accept it or you will lose your entire livelihood. Your choice.

(09-22-2020 07:24 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  https://www.kvue.com/article/sports/texa...04dbac43fd

Snowflakery wins.

Good. Let his racist ass sit on the unemployment line.

(09-23-2020 10:04 AM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  

(09-23-2020 09:59 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote:  Would he have been fired if he had called a white kid a hillbilly or a redneck?

I think we all know the answer to that question.

This is true...sad but true. We as a nation have made this double standard acceptable.

Do we really want to talk about things this country has made acceptable lol. It sure hasn't been to the detriment of wh... you know what i'm gonna leave this topic.