(07-27-2020 10:37 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(07-27-2020 10:11 AM)Bronco14 Wrote:  I feel like nowadays if your names Jamal, you're more likely to get called back. Tho in truth, if I had to guess, employers are looking for most qualified candidate.

Depends on who is doing the hiring. If it's the operations side, they are looking for the most qualified candidate. If it's HR, they are looking for Jamal.

^simplified: quotas

(07-27-2020 08:08 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(07-26-2020 10:43 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(07-26-2020 04:29 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  I think an interesting thing about names is that they sometimes go from in-fashion to trashy. One example is the Le/La prefix. It was pretty common for a white kid to be named LaMichael, LaMar, LaVell.

In fact, the guy who invented the roller coaster was a white guy named LaMarcus.

False....
From 1880 to 2018, the Social Security Administration has recorded 312 babies born with the first name Lamichael in the United States. So even if all 312 were white, which I doubt. The name is very uncommon

LaVell was at its all time high in 2018, 8k per-million and from the 60s to mid 2000s teen it was in the 2 to 4k range and while it doesnt list the breakdown by race. I doubt if 25% of the 2 to 4k was white.

Lavell is not in the top 1000 names for any year of birth beginning with 1900.
Lamichael is not in the top 1000 names for any year of birth beginning with 1900.

LaMar ....bettwen 200 and 611 each year I'm sure a lot of those are black babies
The year when the name Lamar was most popular is 1980. In that year, the number of births is 611, which represents 0.033 percent of total male births in 1980.


I think this is about like Orange and Lemon

Doing research I’ve found that it was particularly a Mormon thing. My fault.

Not a big deal. I was just doing the same to you as you did to CardinalJim over lemon and orange. Both of us failed to use any tact in the reply

(07-26-2020 04:43 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(07-26-2020 04:35 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(07-26-2020 04:22 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(07-26-2020 04:14 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(07-26-2020 04:00 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  Not a true story.

If you're gonna tell this story, tell it right. The twins are Lemonjello and Orangejello and, judging bTy the amount of people who have indirectly crossed twins with these names, they are two of the most popular names in America.

Yeah that one is a classic. The funny thing is the people that tell the stories believe it. My recently retired boss used to tell the story about a set of twins born in one of our hospitals (I work in health care). I never had the heart to call him out because he genuinely one of the nicest people I have ever been fortunate to meet.

Man, I've heard it sooo many places. "My FTO told me that one time he arrested these twins...", "My boss told me about these twins that he hired...", "My teacher said that he had these twins in his class named..."

It's always prefaced with "no lie" or something like that and told like it's brand-spanking new.

Yep. As I said earlier in the thread, whites people have their own issues coming up with ridiculous names. We have an Oaklynn, Jurnee, Baylor, Kace (boy), Jaxxon, and a Kairo among others here in my kids elementary school. I am sure I am forgetting some other good ones.

The crazy thing is white women are getting so crazy with these name that by the time these kids are adults the hiring managers will think Steve or Bill are odd names while Kairo will be normalized.

Those names are going to go the way of Stacy or Crystal. They'll fall out of favor once they start to become common.

Steve Levitt had a chapter on this in the book Freakonomics.

He says that among white people, names are classist. Most people want to give their kids upper-class names, but lower-class people are always behind the times.

"Once a name catches on among high-income, highly educated parents, it starts working its way down the socioeconomic ladder. Amber, Heather, and Stephanie started out as high-end names. For every high-end baby given those names, however, another five lower-income girls received those names within 10 years.... Once a high-end name is adopted en masse, however, high-end parents begin to abandon it. Eventually, it will be considered so common that even lower-end parents may not want it, whereby it falls out of the rotation entirely. The lower-end parents, meanwhile, go looking for the next name that the upper-end parents have broken in."

(07-27-2020 08:30 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(07-27-2020 08:25 AM)banker Wrote:  No one posted the Key & Peele college all-star game skit. Disappointing.

Never seen it before, but looked it up. Almost too true to be funny.

This one is pretty good, too...

Where you at A-Aron?

(07-27-2020 08:28 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  I've always wondered if other countries have this issue. Like is there some guy in Poland saying he can't get a job because his name is Lucifer?

It has popped up, or at least the fear of it. I know immigrant parents at least thought that name bias was going to happen. That's why you'll see that random Indian kid with a name like Steve Patel from time to time. That was in Canada. I know name bias is a perceived problem in the UK as well. It's probably worse in a homogeneous population like Japan.

(07-27-2020 07:11 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(07-27-2020 08:28 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  I've always wondered if other countries have this issue. Like is there some guy in Poland saying he can't get a job because his name is Lucifer?

It has popped up, or at least the fear of it. I know immigrant parents at least thought that name bias was going to happen. That's why you'll see that random Indian kid with a name like Steve Patel from time to time. That was in Canada. I know name bias is a perceived problem in the UK as well. It's probably worse in a homogeneous population like Japan.

Most immigrants to South Korea choose Kim or Park as their last name in Korean script. I read somewhere that they choose Kim or Park at an even higher rate than native Koreans, which is ridiculous because 45% of Koreans are named Kim, Park, or Lee.

Fun fact - Before 1997 it was illegal in Korea to marry someone with the same last name as you. Creates a lot of havoc when 90% of the country has the same 20 last names.