(06-21-2020 08:58 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(06-21-2020 07:52 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(06-21-2020 06:19 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(06-21-2020 02:32 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(06-21-2020 02:24 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Biden was not against school integration, but against federally mandated busing. Are southern conservatives now running on a return to school busing?

So just how did he think integration was going to work without bussing? He evidently had cognitive problems starting long ago.

By allowing states and local municipalities determine how best to integrate and not the federal government.

JFC, your own ******* party wants it on a national level. On the surface it's a valid point you brought up except your point would be DOA in a Democrat controlled bicameral chamber at the capitol building. Modern Dems would NEVER put a Federalist style solution forward.

This is the type of sh!t that pisses me off. You're so obsessed with being contrarian that you start throwing out points that the progressive agenda would never allow to happen.

...which is why was asinine to bring up nuanced policy positions from 1973 and to try and pretend they represent a position now.

Biden held no nuanced position on integration that relied on Federalism. Even back then, the Democrat party was routinely in favor of enacting these policies on a national level. Otherwise, the Dems would not have pushed the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and allowed the state and local gov'ts to unwind the racist laws and lack of enforcement of existing laws to create more just communities. That was the position of Barry Goldwater - that the Civil Rights act was unnecessary meddling on a national level where simply enforcing the existing laws equally across everyone would have yielded the same results. Kennedy and LBJ (who himself was a racist until he died) championed it.

The reality of it was Biden was - and still is IMHO - a racist in the typical Democrat mold from those times. As was par for the course since LBJ's Great Society was kicked off - most Dems were racists who used the welfare state as a means to building a long lasting subservient class of people who will be given "just enough" to keep them voting Democrat. There is no desire to fix these long standing problems to allow EVERYONE to maximize their potential - just a desire to grow a dependent class who will obediently vote per the will of their political masters.

(06-22-2020 10:54 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(06-21-2020 08:58 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(06-21-2020 07:52 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(06-21-2020 06:19 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(06-21-2020 02:32 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  So just how did he think integration was going to work without bussing? He evidently had cognitive problems starting long ago.

By allowing states and local municipalities determine how best to integrate and not the federal government.

JFC, your own ******* party wants it on a national level. On the surface it's a valid point you brought up except your point would be DOA in a Democrat controlled bicameral chamber at the capitol building. Modern Dems would NEVER put a Federalist style solution forward.

This is the type of sh!t that pisses me off. You're so obsessed with being contrarian that you start throwing out points that the progressive agenda would never allow to happen.

...which is why was asinine to bring up nuanced policy positions from 1973 and to try and pretend they represent a position now.

Biden held no nuanced position on integration that relied on Federalism. Even back then, the Democrat party was routinely in favor of enacting these policies on a national level. Otherwise, the Dems would not have pushed the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and allowed the state and local gov'ts to unwind the racist laws and lack of enforcement of existing laws to create more just communities. That was the position of Barry Goldwater - that the Civil Rights act was unnecessary meddling on a national level where simply enforcing the existing laws equally across everyone would have yielded the same results. Kennedy and LBJ (who himself was a racist until he died) championed it.

The reality of it was Biden was - and still is IMHO - a racist in the typical Democrat mold from those times. As was par for the course since LBJ's Great Society was kicked off - most Dems were racists who used the welfare state as a means to building a long lasting subservient class of people who will be given "just enough" to keep them voting Democrat. There is no desire to fix these long standing problems to allow EVERYONE to maximize their potential - just a desire to grow a dependent class who will obediently vote per the will of their political masters.

As JRSec has pointed out a billion times, all you have to do is examine the education system. Poor inner cities are the shitholes of America for an evil reason. What have the democrats done to solve this very serious problem? Fight every attempt to give these poor people an education, that’s what.