(06-21-2020 01:46 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(06-21-2020 01:35 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  The parties have unquestionably flipped over the last 150 years...the Democrats are no longer the home of southern social conservatives, and the Republican Party is no longer the party of Lincoln.

Nice attempt at deflecting...

And it only took 4 posts into this thread for the deflecting to start. So predictable.

(06-21-2020 01:53 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  

(06-21-2020 01:46 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(06-21-2020 01:35 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  The parties have unquestionably flipped over the last 150 years...the Democrats are no longer the home of southern social conservatives, and the Republican Party is no longer the party of Lincoln.

Nice attempt at deflecting...

That is a huge talking point on the left. My timeline on FB and Twitter are filled with that kind of nonsense.

Democrats aren't even the party of Bill Clinton and the moderate left. Its not even the party of McGovern who was left, but a non-interventionist. For that matter, Obama 2008 would be cancelled these days.

And the media will call the Democrats mainstream and moderate conservatives "far right."

Joe Biden was introducing legislation designed to target African American men as recently as 1993. His crime bill is one of the worst pieces of legislation ever written. According to Vox, a bastion of Liberal media....

“If you ask some criminal justice reform activists, the 1994 crime law passed by Congress and signed by President Bill Clinton, which was meant to reverse decades of rising crime, was one of the key contributors to mass incarceration in the 1990s. They say it led to more prison sentences, more prison cells, and more aggressive policing — especially hurting black and brown Americans, who are disproportionately likely to be incarcerated.”

Biden is the worse kind of racist. He sucks up to people of color then when their back is turned he gets the rope out for a lynching. His support among African Americans is so soft he’ll have to draft Kamala Harris or another woman of color to help him keep their support.

Biden is a snake. Best thing you can do to a snake is cut its head off.

(06-21-2020 02:32 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(06-21-2020 02:24 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(06-21-2020 02:12 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(06-21-2020 01:58 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(06-21-2020 01:46 PM)miko33 Wrote:  Nice attempt at deflecting...

So, southerners in the 1860’s were moderates & liberal progressives?

Its not like you have to go that far back. Joe Biden was fighting against school integration and was the "go to" speaker for KKK member funerals just a few decades ago. Dont be surprised if we see some transcripts of from a few years back where Biden is gushing love for the KKK members between now and the election.

Biden was not against school integration, but against federally mandated busing. Are southern conservatives now running on a return to school busing?

So just how did he think integration was going to work without bussing? He evidently had cognitive problems starting long ago.

By allowing states and local municipalities determine how best to integrate and not the federal government.

(06-21-2020 01:35 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  The parties have unquestionably flipped over the last 150 years...the Democrats are no longer the home of southern social conservatives, and the Republican Party is no longer the party of Lincoln.

You state it as fact. Prove it. You can’t. You are an ignorant liar.

(06-21-2020 06:49 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(06-21-2020 01:35 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  The parties have unquestionably flipped over the last 150 years...the Democrats are no longer the home of southern social conservatives, and the Republican Party is no longer the party of Lincoln.

You state it as fact. Prove it. You can’t. You are an ignorant liar.

C'mon man, all the cool kids are saying it so it must be true.

Democrats and prog filth feel guilty. They virtue signal, apologize, wash feet and kiss arse. There can be only one reason.

They are racists.

(06-21-2020 06:19 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(06-21-2020 02:32 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(06-21-2020 02:24 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(06-21-2020 02:12 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(06-21-2020 01:58 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  So, southerners in the 1860’s were moderates & liberal progressives?

Its not like you have to go that far back. Joe Biden was fighting against school integration and was the "go to" speaker for KKK member funerals just a few decades ago. Dont be surprised if we see some transcripts of from a few years back where Biden is gushing love for the KKK members between now and the election.

Biden was not against school integration, but against federally mandated busing. Are southern conservatives now running on a return to school busing?

So just how did he think integration was going to work without bussing? He evidently had cognitive problems starting long ago.

By allowing states and local municipalities determine how best to integrate and not the federal government.

Biden is a racist

(06-21-2020 06:57 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(06-21-2020 06:19 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(06-21-2020 02:32 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(06-21-2020 02:24 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(06-21-2020 02:12 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Its not like you have to go that far back. Joe Biden was fighting against school integration and was the "go to" speaker for KKK member funerals just a few decades ago. Dont be surprised if we see some transcripts of from a few years back where Biden is gushing love for the KKK members between now and the election.

Biden was not against school integration, but against federally mandated busing. Are southern conservatives now running on a return to school busing?

So just how did he think integration was going to work without bussing? He evidently had cognitive problems starting long ago.

By allowing states and local municipalities determine how best to integrate and not the federal government.

Biden is a racist

Supporters of a President loved and adored by white supremacists and neo-nazis now calling the candidate supported by 90+% of the nations’ African-American community “the worst kind of racist”... classic. only in America.

(06-21-2020 06:50 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  

(06-21-2020 06:49 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(06-21-2020 01:35 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  The parties have unquestionably flipped over the last 150 years...the Democrats are no longer the home of southern social conservatives, and the Republican Party is no longer the party of Lincoln.

You state it as fact. Prove it. You can’t. You are an ignorant liar.

C'mon man, all the cool kids are saying it so it must be true.

Tell that to Bull Conner, Strom Thurman, Robert Byrd, George Wallace, JW Fulbright, and on and on...

We all know the famous quote attributed to LB Johnson, “we pass this bill and we will get these n****** voting for us for a 100 Years”.

Bill Clinton claimed his mentor was Fulbright. Yes that Fulbright. The one that filibustered the voting rights act.

The revered Robert Byrd was Hillary Clinton’s mentor. Yes, the same Robert Byrd that was a Grand Kleegal of the KKK.

And how can we leave out Al Gores father who also filibustered the same voting right act.

Don’t pisss down my back and tell me it’s raining Mensa, you lying Democrat.

(06-21-2020 07:20 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(06-21-2020 06:50 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  

(06-21-2020 06:49 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(06-21-2020 01:35 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  The parties have unquestionably flipped over the last 150 years...the Democrats are no longer the home of southern social conservatives, and the Republican Party is no longer the party of Lincoln.

You state it as fact. Prove it. You can’t. You are an ignorant liar.

C'mon man, all the cool kids are saying it so it must be true.

Tell that to Bull Conner, Strom Thurman, Robert Byrd, George Wallace, JW Fulbright, and on and on...

We all know the famous quote attributed to LB Johnson, “we pass this bill and we will get these n****** voting for us for a 100 Years”.

Bill Clinton claimed his mentor was Fulbright. Yes that Fulbright. The one that filibustered the voting rights act.

The revered Robert Byrd was Hillary Clinton’s mentor. Yes, the same Robert Byrd that was a Grand Kleegal of the KKK.

And how can we leave out Al Gores father who also filibustered the same voting right act.

Don’t pisss down my back and tell me it’s raining Mensa, you lying Democrat.

No one is disputing the Democratic Party was once the only party for whites in the South. Hell, Lincoln couldn’t even get on the ballot in most southern states in 1860. I just find it disingenuous for descendants of those Democratic social conservatives to pretend like they now support the very freedoms their parents and grandparents fought so vehemently to deny. Whites in the South have not changed platforms... the GOP changed theirs to accommodate social conservatives who no longer had a home in the Democratic Party. Rebel flags and white supremacists aren’t popping up at BLM marches or Bernie Sanders rallies, but they are certainly embraced by many who support Donald Trump.

(06-21-2020 07:40 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(06-21-2020 07:20 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(06-21-2020 06:50 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  

(06-21-2020 06:49 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(06-21-2020 01:35 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  The parties have unquestionably flipped over the last 150 years...the Democrats are no longer the home of southern social conservatives, and the Republican Party is no longer the party of Lincoln.

You state it as fact. Prove it. You can’t. You are an ignorant liar.

C'mon man, all the cool kids are saying it so it must be true.

Tell that to Bull Conner, Strom Thurman, Robert Byrd, George Wallace, JW Fulbright, and on and on...

We all know the famous quote attributed to LB Johnson, “we pass this bill and we will get these n****** voting for us for a 100 Years”.

Bill Clinton claimed his mentor was Fulbright. Yes that Fulbright. The one that filibustered the voting rights act.

The revered Robert Byrd was Hillary Clinton’s mentor. Yes, the same Robert Byrd that was a Grand Kleegal of the KKK.

And how can we leave out Al Gores father who also filibustered the same voting right act.

Don’t pisss down my back and tell me it’s raining Mensa, you lying Democrat.

No one is disputing the Democratic Party was once the only party for whites in the South. Hell, Lincoln couldn’t even get on the ballot in most southern states in 1860. I just find it disingenuous for descendants of those Democratic social conservatives to pretend like they now support the very freedoms their parents and grandparents fought so vehemently to deny. Whites in the South have not changed platforms... the GOP changed theirs to accommodate social conservatives who no longer had a home in the Democratic Party. Rebel flags and white supremacists aren’t popping up at BLM marches or Bernie Sanders rallies, but they are certainly embraced by many who support Donald Trump.

Are overwhelmingly Blacks and Immigrants.

(06-21-2020 07:09 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(06-21-2020 06:57 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(06-21-2020 06:19 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(06-21-2020 02:32 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(06-21-2020 02:24 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Biden was not against school integration, but against federally mandated busing. Are southern conservatives now running on a return to school busing?

So just how did he think integration was going to work without bussing? He evidently had cognitive problems starting long ago.

By allowing states and local municipalities determine how best to integrate and not the federal government.

Biden is a racist

Supporters of a President loved and adored by white supremacists and neo-nazis now calling the candidate supported by 90+% of the nations’ African-American community “the worst kind of racist”... classic. only in America.

The Neo Nazis are Antifa.

(06-21-2020 06:19 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(06-21-2020 02:32 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(06-21-2020 02:24 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(06-21-2020 02:12 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(06-21-2020 01:58 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  So, southerners in the 1860’s were moderates & liberal progressives?

Its not like you have to go that far back. Joe Biden was fighting against school integration and was the "go to" speaker for KKK member funerals just a few decades ago. Dont be surprised if we see some transcripts of from a few years back where Biden is gushing love for the KKK members between now and the election.

Biden was not against school integration, but against federally mandated busing. Are southern conservatives now running on a return to school busing?

So just how did he think integration was going to work without bussing? He evidently had cognitive problems starting long ago.

By allowing states and local municipalities determine how best to integrate and not the federal government.

JFC, your own ******* party wants it on a national level. On the surface it's a valid point you brought up except your point would be DOA in a Democrat controlled bicameral chamber at the capitol building. Modern Dems would NEVER put a Federalist style solution forward.

This is the type of sh!t that pisses me off. You're so obsessed with being contrarian that you start throwing out points that the progressive agenda would never allow to happen.

(06-21-2020 07:52 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(06-21-2020 06:19 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(06-21-2020 02:32 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(06-21-2020 02:24 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(06-21-2020 02:12 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Its not like you have to go that far back. Joe Biden was fighting against school integration and was the "go to" speaker for KKK member funerals just a few decades ago. Dont be surprised if we see some transcripts of from a few years back where Biden is gushing love for the KKK members between now and the election.

Biden was not against school integration, but against federally mandated busing. Are southern conservatives now running on a return to school busing?

So just how did he think integration was going to work without bussing? He evidently had cognitive problems starting long ago.

By allowing states and local municipalities determine how best to integrate and not the federal government.

JFC, your own ******* party wants it on a national level. On the surface it's a valid point you brought up except your point would be DOA in a Democrat controlled bicameral chamber at the capitol building. Modern Dems would NEVER put a Federalist style solution forward.

This is the type of sh!t that pisses me off. You're so obsessed with being contrarian that you start throwing out points that the progressive agenda would never allow to happen.

...which is why was asinine to bring up nuanced policy positions from 1973 and to try and pretend they represent a position now.

(06-21-2020 01:35 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  The parties have unquestionably flipped over the last 150 years...the Democrats are no longer the home of southern social conservatives, and the Republican Party is no longer the party of Lincoln.

BS. Complete and utter revisionist BS. You know it too.

(06-21-2020 01:58 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(06-21-2020 01:35 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  The parties have unquestionably flipped over the last 150 years...the Democrats are no longer the home of southern social conservatives, and the Republican Party is no longer the party of Lincoln.

Nope. The Democrats are the same, still racist. As blacks fled out of the South to the North and they were able to vote in the North the Democrats needed a plan. That was LBJs Great Society and welfare. Then Blacks outside of the South began working in government in essence the new administrators of the Plantation. As the South became less racist it became more Republican. Today the Democrats are basically nothing other than Cultural Marxists, which in the past they hid it. The Marxist aspects produced the 60's counter culture, feminism, divorce, black power groups (any white is bad, like getting good grades) etc.

Someone knows their history.

(06-21-2020 02:31 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(06-21-2020 02:24 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(06-21-2020 02:12 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(06-21-2020 01:58 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(06-21-2020 01:46 PM)miko33 Wrote:  Nice attempt at deflecting...

So, southerners in the 1860’s were moderates & liberal progressives?

Its not like you have to go that far back. Joe Biden was fighting against school integration and was the "go to" speaker for KKK member funerals just a few decades ago. Dont be surprised if we see some transcripts of from a few years back where Biden is gushing love for the KKK members between now and the election.

Biden was not against school integration, but against federally mandated busing. Are southern conservatives now running on a return to school busing?

Busing is integration LOL

Shhh, don't help him out. It's fun watching him double down on stupid.

(06-21-2020 06:19 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(06-21-2020 02:32 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(06-21-2020 02:24 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(06-21-2020 02:12 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(06-21-2020 01:58 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  So, southerners in the 1860’s were moderates & liberal progressives?

Its not like you have to go that far back. Joe Biden was fighting against school integration and was the "go to" speaker for KKK member funerals just a few decades ago. Dont be surprised if we see some transcripts of from a few years back where Biden is gushing love for the KKK members between now and the election.

Biden was not against school integration, but against federally mandated busing. Are southern conservatives now running on a return to school busing?

So just how did he think integration was going to work without bussing? He evidently had cognitive problems starting long ago.

By allowing states and local municipalities determine how best to integrate and not the federal government.

So what? They were going to move disadvantaged families into the suburbs? That started in 1974 and was a federally mandated and funded housing program, Section 8 of the Housing Act. Exactly what alternatives did state and local municipalities have at their disposal? Try again? You can either dig the hole deeper or concede that you know not of wherein you speak. Here's a shovel...

(06-21-2020 08:58 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(06-21-2020 07:52 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(06-21-2020 06:19 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(06-21-2020 02:32 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(06-21-2020 02:24 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Biden was not against school integration, but against federally mandated busing. Are southern conservatives now running on a return to school busing?

So just how did he think integration was going to work without bussing? He evidently had cognitive problems starting long ago.

By allowing states and local municipalities determine how best to integrate and not the federal government.

JFC, your own ******* party wants it on a national level. On the surface it's a valid point you brought up except your point would be DOA in a Democrat controlled bicameral chamber at the capitol building. Modern Dems would NEVER put a Federalist style solution forward.

This is the type of sh!t that pisses me off. You're so obsessed with being contrarian that you start throwing out points that the progressive agenda would never allow to happen.

...which is why was asinine to bring up nuanced policy positions from 1973 and to try and pretend they represent a position now.

I agree with that point.

But... the Democratic party has always been the party of immigrants from countries who think that all capitalism is crony capitalism.

Tammany Hall & Boss Tweed ran New York politics for the Democrat Party for decades. Its base was Irish immigrants, as were other Democrat machines in Boston & Chicago. It lost power as the Irish became dominated by 2nd & 3rd generation Irish Americans.

Cities that were dominated by Republican machines in the 19th century (Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, Philadelphia) were run by & for nativists or English immigrants.


In the early 20th century, newly immigrated Italians & Greeks & Eastern Europeans flocked to the Democratic party. Again, their children & grandchildren largely became Republicans (except for Jewish Americans).


In the late 20th century & early 21st century, newly arrived Hispanics vote Democrat. But we're already witnessing their children switching to vote Republican.