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RE: NMSU AD on WAC FBS FB "It's on the docket to be discussed..there's some smoke...
(05-09-2020 10:11 PM)johnbragg Wrote: (05-09-2020 09:21 PM)NoDak Wrote: (05-09-2020 05:28 PM)johnbragg Wrote: (05-09-2020 04:14 PM)NoDak Wrote: For two years, my story has stayed the same but yet Ice been labeled an idiot.
The same posters that have sent the insults flying to me, just come up with some last minute fictional scenarios that don't make any sense and it's ok to those dufoses.
In fairness to NoDak, every FBS WAC on this thread has been just as dumb as any NoDak scheme. The posters on this thread are putting out scenarios that don't make a lot of sense--but the posters aren't declaring their harebrained schemes to be lead pipe locks to happen Real Soon Now.
What makes you a target, NoDak, is that you declare that you have inside, certain knowledge of what's going to happen. The Great Northern is not a bad idea for a conference. There's a logic to putting the flagships-and-landgrants of the northern Great Plains together. But you can't let it rest there.
It's not that your ideas are bad. It's that you declare your ideas as Things That Will Happen, Just You Wait, and you have this unshakeable conviction that the Montanas desperately want to align with the Dakota 4, and everything that happens is all part of the Plan, or misdirection to throw people off the scent of the Plan.
And no consideration is given to any evidence that things aren't moving in the direction of the Plan. No consideration of the question why the current FBS schools would want to share with another 10 or 20 or 30 upgrades (Summit, ASUN, WAC). No reflection on the idea that maybe a conference that is recruiting schools from D2 and D3 (St Thomas, Augustana to Summit) isn't in a position to pull off a hare-brained scheme to upgrade itself to FBS. No consideration of what it takes to actually get a school to leave--Western Illinois will just leave the Summit to get out of the way of the Plan.
And considering that many posters on this board remember how you were adamant that things were definitely going to happen for 2020.
Googling up a post, csnbbs nodak North Dakota FBS 2020. Going fishing.
Google archive of one thread among many
Quote:RE: The Great Northern Conference - NoDak - 06-01-2018 08:50 PM
There is so much BS on this thread that is not worth responding to.
Everything is still set. The WAC will get Southland and California FCS teams by July 1st but won’t move until 2020. There is legitimate concern that California’s legislature will pass some BS bill that will harm any FCS school athletic budget attempting to move up. The California schools don’t want to give time to the legislature to upend their plans.
Big Sky teams will still move to the Summit and it shed their eastern teams with the same timeline.
The Atlantic Sun will still expand with wannabe FBS schools and shed NJIT and Lipscomb.
The FBS conference moveup rule doesn’t matter until at least FBS transitions start.
All of these league will still be FCS in 2020. The objective is to qualify for FBS by 2024 to be included the the next CFB contract.
Tarleton St did not get an invite from the WAC but will get a Southland invite next year. Have said Tarleton St to the WAC was just a ruse all along, but was mocked for it here. Tarleton needs to play football in the Southland in a bus league. The Southland will soon need to plan for more fb schools to replace those going the the WAC.
UTRGV still hasn’t announced their new fb team yet. That will happen when the WAC invites FCS teams that will later upgrade to FBS. UTRGV will upgrade to FBS on the same timeline as UTSA.
"Everything is still set." Okay, let's look at the scoreboard on this post two years later.
Quote:The WAC will get Southland and California FCS teams by July 1st but won’t move until 2020.
That didn't happen.
Quote:There is legitimate concern that California’s legislature will pass some BS bill that will harm any FCS school athletic budget attempting to move up. The California schools don’t want to give time to the legislature to upend their plans.
I don't think California's legislature has passed any bills lately that had much to do with UC/Cal State schools upgrading from FCS to FBS.
But the failed prediction isn't why NoDak is a laughingstock. It's the ironclad certainty that he knows the inner workings and deliberations of the California FCS schools (among so many others) better than, say, the chumps in the California legislature who were having the wool pulled over their eyes.
Maybe, just maybe, it's not (whatever complicated X-Files explanation NoDak comes up with for why he was right about this all along). Maybe NoDak just doesn't particularly know anything and is guessing and hoping.
Quote:Big Sky teams will still move to the Summit and it shed their eastern teams with the same timeline.
Let's check wikipedia. What Big Sky teams have moved to the Summit in the past two years? I'm thinking it's "NONE, ZERO, NoDak is Wrong AGAIN" but let me check.
Let's look the second half of that sentence. "The Summit will shed their eastern teams" NoDak scores here--Fort Wayne has left the Summit for the Horizon League. On the other hand, Western Illinois hasn't gone anywhere. The Horizon is *probably* looking for a No. 12, but I don't see any reason to believe it's Western Illinois--Macomb makes Fort Wayne look like Fort Worth.
Quote:The Atlantic Sun will still expand with wannabe FBS schools...
I'm going out on a limb and saying you didn't mean Bellarmine.
Quote:...and shed NJIT and Lipscomb.
Or, you know, not.
Quote:The FBS conference moveup rule doesn’t matter until at least FBS transitions start.
All of these league will still be FCS in 2020.
NoDak SCORES! All of these leagues ARE still FCS in 2020. Well, technically, the ASun and Summit aren't FCS, but let's give him this one.
Quote:The objective is to qualify for FBS by 2024 to be included the the next CFB contract.
Well, maybe. Based on your batting average in this post so far, about 1.5/6, let's say there's a 25% chance that the objective is to be FBS by 2024.
Quote:Tarleton St did not get an invite from the WAC but will get a Southland invite next year. Have said Tarleton St to the WAC was just a ruse all along, but was mocked for it here.
And rightly so. The idea that a Division 2 Texas school would need some cloak-and-dagger black propaganda smokescreen to upgrade to the Southland Conference was, and is, very stupid.
To your great surprise I'm sure, the negotiations between Tarleton State and the WAC were not in fact about some byzantine Disney-Channel-sitcom-quality scheme to get Tarleton into the Southland. They were, in fact, about Tarleton STate joining the WAC.
Quote:Tarleton needs to play football in the Southland in a bus league.
That would be nice for Tarleton, but that doesn't seem to be the Southland's problem.
Quote:The Southland will soon need to plan for more fb schools to replace those going the the WAC.
No, they didn;'t and they don't.
Quote:UTRGV still hasn’t announced their new fb team yet. That will happen when the WAC invites FCS teams that will later upgrade to FBS. UTRGV will upgrade to FBS on the same timeline as UTSA.
Hard to score this one. On the one hand, RGV hasn't done anything. On the other hand, the WAC hasn't invited any FCS teams that will later upgrade to FBS.
Those precocious notes just tell me that this moderator doesn't know ****, is wling to lie and deceive to prove his points, has extensive backups to defend his moderator status.
My biggest mistake was stating in 2118 that the Big Sky would announce publicly that is was going to split. It only had to privAtely announce to the other schools.
But the soon the t o be Presidents have all approved massive checks for FBS facilities that this board has ignored but those are ignored by this board. The Big Sky has purpursely misguided the public because they don't want their plans going public, at least to dumbasses.
I will make a bet with johnbragg, if their isn't two new FBS conferences planned by this May 30th. I will resign from this board. If there is, you will resign as a moderator.
First instinct is, sure, fine, whatever. But Nerdlinger is right--there has to be some public announcement of an FBS plan. Not some secret plan that only NoDak knows about, because the "Big Sky doesn't want their plans going public". SMDH.
The A-Sun has announced a "plan" to do--something with their "United Athletic Conference". I don't think that qualifies, but I'm sure NoDak does.
So let's cut to the heart of the matter. When will Montana announce a move to a conference that does not include Southern Utah? (Or is SUU going to be FBS too, why not?) That's the bet. NoDak can pick the timeframe.
I got a sense that when Dixie State announced an upgrade to their football stadium to seat 15,000 and had donors lined up? They were screaming FBS as the goal. I could see them move there quicker than several Big Sky schools.
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